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nospambob July 23rd 05 07:29 PM

Ho, Swingman
 
You mentioned a "birds mouth" joint and I tried to post what shows
below but haven't seen it. Is there a compendium of joints anywhere?
Tage Frid index to book 1 doesn't list it. Does birds mouth joint
have another name, like bridle joint and slip joint?

Your suggestion brings forth the question "Is there a source for name
to visual aid for joints?". Haven't looked in Tage Frid Teaches
Woodworking yet but intend to (if I can remember).

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:25:41 -0500, "Swingman" wrote:

Don't discount the birds mouth joint for your planter.



Edwin Pawlowski July 23rd 05 07:34 PM


"nospambob" wrote in message
...
You mentioned a "birds mouth" joint and I tried to post what shows
below but haven't seen it. Is there a compendium of joints anywhere?
Tage Frid index to book 1 doesn't list it. Does birds mouth joint
have another name, like bridle joint and slip joint?

Your suggestion brings forth the question "Is there a source for name
to visual aid for joints?". Haven't looked in Tage Frid Teaches
Woodworking yet but intend to (if I can remember).



Check the Lee Valley catalog. They sell a router bit just for that.



Tom Watson July 23rd 05 07:36 PM

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 11:29:32 -0700, nospambob
wrote:

You mentioned a "birds mouth" joint and I tried to post what shows
below but haven't seen it. Is there a compendium of joints anywhere?
Tage Frid index to book 1 doesn't list it. Does birds mouth joint
have another name, like bridle joint and slip joint?

Your suggestion brings forth the question "Is there a source for name
to visual aid for joints?". Haven't looked in Tage Frid Teaches
Woodworking yet but intend to (if I can remember).

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:25:41 -0500, "Swingman" wrote:

Don't discount the birds mouth joint for your planter.


A bird's mouth is the notch cut in a rafter to receive the top plate
of the wall.

http://www.hgtv.com/hgtv/rm_home_ext...398229,00.html

(see figure M)



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Dave in Fairfax July 23rd 05 08:30 PM

Tom Watson wrote:
A bird's mouth is the notch cut in a rafter to receive the top plate
of the wall.


Yup, that's the only one I know of by that name. I'm not quite sure how
that works with a planter...

Dave in Fairfax
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Swingman July 23rd 05 09:13 PM

"Dave in Fairfax" wrote in message
Tom Watson wrote:
A bird's mouth is the notch cut in a rafter to receive the top plate
of the wall.


Yup, that's the only one I know of by that name. I'm not quite sure how
that works with a planter...


Semantics ... much like the term "dado", which has a completely different
meaning to a classical architect than it does to a woodworker.

Named primarily, and conveniently, because of the way the joint looks,
whether it be in frame construction, or planter boxes. A birds mouth router
bit cuts a bird's mouth shaped joint that is perfect for spars, barrel
shapes, and other multi-sided, hollow objects.

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Dave in Fairfax July 23rd 05 10:29 PM

Swingman wrote:
Semantics ... much like the term "dado", which has a completely different
meaning to a classical architect than it does to a woodworker.
Named primarily, and conveniently, because of the way the joint looks,
whether it be in frame construction, or planter boxes. A birds mouth router
bit cuts a bird's mouth shaped joint that is perfect for spars, barrel
shapes, and other multi-sided, hollow objects.


I'm having a hard time vusualizing this, bear with me. It sounds like a
half-dovetail, sort of. Is that the corner joinery on the planter?

Dave in Fairfax
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bridger July 23rd 05 11:00 PM



Dave in Fairfax wrote:
Swingman wrote:
Semantics ... much like the term "dado", which has a completely different
meaning to a classical architect than it does to a woodworker.
Named primarily, and conveniently, because of the way the joint looks,
whether it be in frame construction, or planter boxes. A birds mouth router
bit cuts a bird's mouth shaped joint that is perfect for spars, barrel
shapes, and other multi-sided, hollow objects.


I'm having a hard time vusualizing this, bear with me. It sounds like a
half-dovetail, sort of. Is that the corner joinery on the planter?

Dave in Fairfax


kind of. think if you set up a dado stack, tilted the arbor on your saw
and plowed a groove down the edge of a board that the edge of another
board just fit into. now the boards are joined in a trough. do a bunch
of them together and they wrap all the way around into a tube.


Edwin Pawlowski July 23rd 05 11:04 PM


"Dave in Fairfax" wrote in message

I'm having a hard time vusualizing this, bear with me. It sounds like a
half-dovetail, sort of. Is that the corner joinery on the planter?

Dave in Fairfax


Look here; http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...60&cat=1,46168



WillR July 24th 05 03:18 AM

nospambob wrote:
You mentioned a "birds mouth" joint and I tried to post what shows
below but haven't seen it. Is there a compendium of joints anywhere?
Tage Frid index to book 1 doesn't list it. Does birds mouth joint
have another name, like bridle joint and slip joint?
=20
Your suggestion brings forth the question "Is there a source for name
to visual aid for joints?". Haven't looked in Tage Frid Teaches
Woodworking yet but intend to (if I can remember).
=20
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:25:41 -0500, "Swingman" wrote:
=20
=20
Don't discount the birds mouth joint for your planter.

=20
=20


Lee Valley router bit and example.

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...3D1,46168,461=
74


--=20
Will R.
Jewel Boxes and Wood Art
http://woodwork.pmccl.com
The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those=20
who have not got it.=94 George Bernard Shaw

nospambob July 24th 05 04:44 PM

Thanks Tom, picture is worth a ...!

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:36:50 -0400, Tom Watson
wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 11:29:32 -0700, nospambob
wrote:

You mentioned a "birds mouth" joint and I tried to post what shows
below but haven't seen it. Is there a compendium of joints anywhere?
Tage Frid index to book 1 doesn't list it. Does birds mouth joint
have another name, like bridle joint and slip joint?

Your suggestion brings forth the question "Is there a source for name
to visual aid for joints?". Haven't looked in Tage Frid Teaches
Woodworking yet but intend to (if I can remember).

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:25:41 -0500, "Swingman" wrote:

Don't discount the birds mouth joint for your planter.


A bird's mouth is the notch cut in a rafter to receive the top plate
of the wall.

http://www.hgtv.com/hgtv/rm_home_ext...398229,00.html

(see figure M)



Tom Watson - WoodDorker
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/ (website)



Dave in Fairfax July 24th 05 07:06 PM

nospambob wrote:
Thanks Tom, picture is worth a ...!


Yup, makes much more sense now. I was thinking of a square planter.
Thanks.
Dave in Fairfax
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