I am making a small bench for a recently remodeled bathroom . I have designed
it to use two left over porcelain floor (11 3/8" x 11 3/8") tiles on the top.

The top is rabbited to accept the tiles and provide direct support from the
frame. I have attached a backer board to the bottom to give full support to the
tiles.

The question is: what adhesive should I consider using. I have a lot of regular
tile adhesive left over from the walls. Would that be the right thing to float
into the prepared cavity, or should I be looking at something else?

I plan on using clear silicone to seal around the edges. The tiles do not
directly abut each other.

As always, TIA.

____________________
Bill Waller
New Eagle, PA

Thinset

Dave

Bill Waller wrote:

I am making a small bench for a recently remodeled bathroom . I have designed
it to use two left over porcelain floor (11 3/8" x 11 3/8") tiles on the top.

The top is rabbited to accept the tiles and provide direct support from the
frame. I have attached a backer board to the bottom to give full support to the
tiles.

The question is: what adhesive should I consider using. I have a lot of regular
tile adhesive left over from the walls. Would that be the right thing to float
into the prepared cavity, or should I be looking at something else?

I plan on using clear silicone to seal around the edges. The tiles do not
directly abut each other.

As always, TIA.

____________________
Bill Waller
New Eagle, PA

On Tue, 03 May 2005 11:24:36 -0700, David wrote:

Thinset

Dave

Got a good bit of that left over too. :-)


Bill Waller wrote:

I am making a small bench for a recently remodeled bathroom . I have designed
it to use two left over porcelain floor (11 3/8" x 11 3/8") tiles on the top.

The top is rabbited to accept the tiles and provide direct support from the
frame. I have attached a backer board to the bottom to give full support to the
tiles.

The question is: what adhesive should I consider using. I have a lot of regular
tile adhesive left over from the walls. Would that be the right thing to float
into the prepared cavity, or should I be looking at something else?

I plan on using clear silicone to seal around the edges. The tiles do not
directly abut each other.

As always, TIA.

____________________
Bill Waller
New Eagle, PA



____________________
Bill Waller
New Eagle, PA

Bill Waller wrote:
I am making a small bench for a recently remodeled bathroom . I have
designed it to use two left over porcelain floor (11 3/8" x 11 3/8")
tiles on the top.

The top is rabbited to accept the tiles and provide direct support
from the frame. I have attached a backer board to the bottom to give
full support to the tiles.

The question is: what adhesive should I consider using. I have a lot
of regular tile adhesive left over from the walls. Would that be the
right thing to float into the prepared cavity

Anything that will hold it down (I'm assuming no irregularity in tile
bottom or support). The tile adhesive should be fine.
__________

or should I be looking at something else?

Personally, I wouldn't use thinset...the mastic will stick much better
to wood than it would.

--
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Excuse me, but thinset will stick to plywood just fine.

Dave

dadiOH wrote:

Bill Waller wrote:

I am making a small bench for a recently remodeled bathroom . I have
designed it to use two left over porcelain floor (11 3/8" x 11 3/8")
tiles on the top.

The top is rabbited to accept the tiles and provide direct support
from the frame. I have attached a backer board to the bottom to give
full support to the tiles.

The question is: what adhesive should I consider using. I have a lot
of regular tile adhesive left over from the walls. Would that be the
right thing to float into the prepared cavity


Anything that will hold it down (I'm assuming no irregularity in tile
bottom or support). The tile adhesive should be fine.
__________


or should I be looking at something else?


Personally, I wouldn't use thinset...the mastic will stick much better
to wood than it would.

--
dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

To add to my last post: Thinset does not require a concrete base, even
though cementicious (sp) board is very popular now as a substrate.
There's NO problem using thinset over ply. Been there; done that. I've
got a home with a tiled entry that is sitting on top of ply. Very common.

Dave

dadiOH wrote:

Bill Waller wrote:

I am making a small bench for a recently remodeled bathroom . I have
designed it to use two left over porcelain floor (11 3/8" x 11 3/8")
tiles on the top.

The top is rabbited to accept the tiles and provide direct support
from the frame. I have attached a backer board to the bottom to give
full support to the tiles.

The question is: what adhesive should I consider using. I have a lot
of regular tile adhesive left over from the walls. Would that be the
right thing to float into the prepared cavity


Anything that will hold it down (I'm assuming no irregularity in tile
bottom or support). The tile adhesive should be fine.
__________


or should I be looking at something else?


Personally, I wouldn't use thinset...the mastic will stick much better
to wood than it would.

--
dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

except that the water gets pulled out of thinset by the dry wood, leading to
poor adhesion.

use mastic, which is designed for use over wood, metal, or drywall. use
thinset for cement products.

regards,
charlie
cave creek, az

"David" wrote in message
...
To add to my last post: Thinset does not require a concrete base, even
though cementicious (sp) board is very popular now as a substrate. There's
NO problem using thinset over ply. Been there; done that. I've got a
home with a tiled entry that is sitting on top of ply. Very common.

Dave

dadiOH wrote:

Bill Waller wrote:

I am making a small bench for a recently remodeled bathroom . I have
designed it to use two left over porcelain floor (11 3/8" x 11 3/8")
tiles on the top.

The top is rabbited to accept the tiles and provide direct support
from the frame. I have attached a backer board to the bottom to give
full support to the tiles.

The question is: what adhesive should I consider using. I have a lot
of regular tile adhesive left over from the walls. Would that be the
right thing to float into the prepared cavity


Anything that will hold it down (I'm assuming no irregularity in tile
bottom or support). The tile adhesive should be fine.
__________


or should I be looking at something else?


Personally, I wouldn't use thinset...the mastic will stick much better
to wood than it would.

--
dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
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Yeah, right, and concrete backer board doesn't wick the moisture. You
guys need to get out more.

Here's just ONE link:

http://www.boiardiproducts.com/index...=dsp_pro duct

Not that I needed to check the internet for what I already know to be
true, but since you aren't going to take my word for it that it's ok to
use thin set over ply, I gave you a link.

You can use additives with the thin set, in lieu of water for superior
adhesion, water resistance, etc, etc. I always use a latex additive
when laying tiles. It goes in the grout, too. Good stuff!


Dave

Charles Spitzer wrote:

except that the water gets pulled out of thinset by the dry wood, leading to
poor adhesion.

use mastic, which is designed for use over wood, metal, or drywall. use
thinset for cement products.

regards,
charlie
cave creek, az

"David" wrote in message
...

To add to my last post: Thinset does not require a concrete base, even
though cementicious (sp) board is very popular now as a substrate. There's
NO problem using thinset over ply. Been there; done that. I've got a
home with a tiled entry that is sitting on top of ply. Very common.

Dave

dadiOH wrote:


Bill Waller wrote:


I am making a small bench for a recently remodeled bathroom . I have
designed it to use two left over porcelain floor (11 3/8" x 11 3/8")
tiles on the top.

The top is rabbited to accept the tiles and provide direct support

from the frame. I have attached a backer board to the bottom to give

full support to the tiles.

The question is: what adhesive should I consider using. I have a lot
of regular tile adhesive left over from the walls. Would that be the
right thing to float into the prepared cavity


Anything that will hold it down (I'm assuming no irregularity in tile
bottom or support). The tile adhesive should be fine.
__________



or should I be looking at something else?


Personally, I wouldn't use thinset...the mastic will stick much better
to wood than it would.

--
dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

"David" wrote in message
...

To add to my last post: Thinset does not require a concrete base,
even though cementicious (sp) board is very popular now as a
substrate. There's NO problem using thinset over ply. Been there;
done that. I've got a home with a tiled entry that is sitting on top
of ply. Very common.

Dave



Here, Here.

Latex-modified thinset even sticks to formica... trust me, I put granite
tile over my previously un-interesting contertops a few weeks ago. Scuffed
up the smooth surface with a grinder to get a good mechanical adhesion, and
that stuff isn't going anywhere.

~Rob

On Tue, 03 May 2005 13:14:53 -0400, Bill Waller
wrote:

I am making a small bench for a recently remodeled bathroom . I have designed
it to use two left over porcelain floor (11 3/8" x 11 3/8") tiles on the top.

The top is rabbited to accept the tiles and provide direct support from the
frame. I have attached a backer board to the bottom to give full support to the
tiles.

The question is: what adhesive should I consider using. I have a lot of regular
tile adhesive left over from the walls. Would that be the right thing to float
into the prepared cavity, or should I be looking at something else?

I've used regular tile mastic for that very thing a lot of times, and
it has always worked well for me.

I plan on using clear silicone to seal around the edges. The tiles do not
directly abut each other.

As always, TIA.

____________________
Bill Waller
New Eagle, PA



Aut inveniam viam aut faciam

David wrote:
Yeah, right, and concrete backer board doesn't wick the moisture. You
guys need to get out more.

Here's just ONE link:


http://www.boiardiproducts.com/index...ntent&subactio
n=dsp_product

Not that I needed to check the internet for what I already know to be
true, but since you aren't going to take my word for it that it's ok
to use thin set over ply, I gave you a link.

I didn't say it wasn't OK to use it, just that I *personally* wouldn't.
I like to use a resilient adhesive over a resilient surface, a
non-resilient one on a non-resilient surface. YMMV.

In the case of the OP, he didn't say if he was putting it over ply or
solid wood. If solid wood, it *wouldn't* be OK to use thinset. Not
IMO.

--
dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

On Tue, 03 May 2005 13:14:53 -0400, Bill Waller wrote:

I am making a small bench for a recently remodeled bathroom . I have designed
it to use two left over porcelain floor (11 3/8" x 11 3/8") tiles on the top.

The top is rabbited to accept the tiles and provide direct support from the
frame. I have attached a backer board to the bottom to give full support to the
tiles.

The question is: what adhesive should I consider using. I have a lot of regular
tile adhesive left over from the walls. Would that be the right thing to float
into the prepared cavity, or should I be looking at something else?

I plan on using clear silicone to seal around the edges. The tiles do not
directly abut each other.

As always, TIA.

____________________
Bill Waller
New Eagle, PA



____________________
Bill Waller
New Eagle, PA

To all who responded, thanks. I did not mean to start a battle. Sorry.

A picture of the bench has been posted on alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking.


On Tue, 03 May 2005 13:14:53 -0400, Bill Waller wrote:

I am making a small bench for a recently remodeled bathroom . I have designed
it to use two left over porcelain floor (11 3/8" x 11 3/8") tiles on the top.

The top is rabbited to accept the tiles and provide direct support from the
frame. I have attached a backer board to the bottom to give full support to the
tiles.

The question is: what adhesive should I consider using. I have a lot of regular
tile adhesive left over from the walls. Would that be the right thing to float
into the prepared cavity, or should I be looking at something else?

I plan on using clear silicone to seal around the edges. The tiles do not
directly abut each other.

As always, TIA.

____________________
Bill Waller
New Eagle, PA



____________________
Bill Waller
New Eagle, PA