Relatively simple design, but very nice looking. I heard on the radio this
morning it is made of Cypress. It is installed in a zinc container, and that
inside another walnut case. I am curious to see the details on that,
although it may be very modest too.

The Pope was truly a great man, as evidenced by the turnout and attention
given to him this week and at his funeral.

I commented on that this morning to my wife and she berated me for never
thinking about anything but woodworking. Oh well. It really was a nice,
simple yet elegant approach that I thought fitted the ideals that the Pope
represented.

Mike


"Joe Wilding" wrote in message
news:1112970259.d8a20264a442f9679321370f513d042f@t eranews...
Relatively simple design, but very nice looking. I heard on the radio
this
morning it is made of Cypress. It is installed in a zinc container, and
that
inside another walnut case. I am curious to see the details on that,
although it may be very modest too.

The Pope was truly a great man, as evidenced by the turnout and attention
given to him this week and at his funeral.

I did!!!!

I thought it was odd that the tails were on the end. The tapered sides would
make execution a bit more of a challenge.

I thought the simplicity of the box sent a nice message.

-Steve (Not a catholic)


"Joe Wilding" wrote in message
news:1112970259.d8a20264a442f9679321370f513d042f@t eranews...
Relatively simple design, but very nice looking. I heard on the radio
this
morning it is made of Cypress. It is installed in a zinc container, and
that
inside another walnut case. I am curious to see the details on that,
although it may be very modest too.

The Pope was truly a great man, as evidenced by the turnout and attention
given to him this week and at his funeral.

"Joe Wilding" wrote in message
news:1112970259.d8a20264a442f9679321370f513d042f@t eranews...


Relatively simple design, but very nice looking. I heard on the radio
this
morning it is made of Cypress. It is installed in a zinc container, and
that
inside another walnut case. I am curious to see the details on that,
although it may be very modest too.

Noticed them too.

Even though I'm not Catholic everyone has to respect him for always standing
up for what is right and not being afraid to express it. He provided great
leadership and guidance for the world.

I retired from TWA, we would configured one of our aircraft specially for
him on various accessions for his Papal Journeys about the world. It was a
great honor to be selected to serve him.

He will be a tough legend to follow.

Don Dando



"Joe Wilding" wrote in message
news:1112970259.d8a20264a442f9679321370f513d042f@t eranews...
Relatively simple design, but very nice looking. I heard on the radio
this
morning it is made of Cypress. It is installed in a zinc container, and
that
inside another walnut case. I am curious to see the details on that,
although it may be very modest too.

The Pope was truly a great man, as evidenced by the turnout and attention
given to him this week and at his funeral.

"Mike in Mystic" wrote in message
. com...
I commented on that this morning to my wife and she berated me for never
thinking about anything but woodworking. Oh well. It really was a nice,
simple yet elegant approach that I thought fitted the ideals that the Pope
represented.

Mike

Noticed them also. Simple design with the nice taper. I bet someone took a
lot of pride in doing that job.

My wife had it on in the bedroom. She said it was just like being in
church. I woke her up too late to see the beginning and I was asleep most
of the time.

Joe Wilding wrote:

Relatively simple design, but very nice looking. I heard on the radio this
morning it is made of Cypress. It is installed in a zinc container, and that
inside another walnut case. I am curious to see the details on that,
although it may be very modest too.

The Pope was truly a great man, as evidenced by the turnout and attention
given to him this week and at his funeral.


I just KNEW that someone was going to comment here. I mentioned it to
LOML and sorta like Mike in Mystic's SWMBO, her eyes rolled back into
her head and she walked off with a sigh. Anybody here thought about
making their own coffin?
grimace,
jo4hn

"jo4hn" wrote in message
Anybody here thought about making their own coffin?
grimace,
jo4hn

Yes, I have. I've thought about designing it as a curio cabinet for use
now, take out the shelves and put me in when the time comes. Seems silly
to spend a lot of money on a box that goes into the ground never to be seen
again. Cremation is a better option so I may just make an urn or box of
some sort.
Ed

I also noticed. The varnish was also excellent.

I have every intention of making my own pine box. Is it creepy to go ahead
and make my wife's as well?

SteveP.

"jo4hn" wrote in message
ink.net...
Joe Wilding wrote:

Relatively simple design, but very nice looking. I heard on the radio
this morning it is made of Cypress. It is installed in a zinc container,
and that inside another walnut case. I am curious to see the details on
that, although it may be very modest too.

The Pope was truly a great man, as evidenced by the turnout and attention
given to him this week and at his funeral.


I just KNEW that someone was going to comment here. I mentioned it to
LOML and sorta like Mike in Mystic's SWMBO, her eyes rolled back into her
head and she walked off with a sigh. Anybody here thought about making
their own coffin?
grimace,
jo4hn

"Highland Pairos" wrote in
:

I have every intention of making my own pine box. Is it creepy to go
ahead
and make my wife's as well?

SteveP.


Only if you don't tell her, and she had no short range usage plans...

On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:49:36 GMT, jo4hn wrote:

Anybody here thought about
making their own coffin?

I've made a few cremation caskets. Stopped doing it now - every time I
finished one, another relative died.

Yes. Did you notice the miter on the Pope himself?

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
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"jo4hn" wrote in message
Anybody here thought about making their own coffin?
grimace,
jo4hn

Yes, I have. I've thought about designing it as a curio cabinet for use
now, take out the shelves and put me in when the time comes.

Just in time ... I needed a good laugh! Thanks.


--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 11/06/04

In article , Morris Dovey
wrote:

Yes. Did you notice the miter on the Pope himself?

I was a pall bearer three weeks ago at my great uncles funeral (a
woodworker himself) and while he didn't make it the coffin was stunning
and made of Pecan.... May have to get my hands on some.


Allen
Catonsville, MD

"Joe Wilding" wrote in message
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Relatively simple design, but very nice looking. I heard on the radio
this morning it is made of Cypress. It is installed in a zinc container,
and that inside another walnut case. I am curious to see the details on
that, although it may be very modest too.

The Pope was truly a great man, as evidenced by the turnout and attention
given to him this week and at his funeral.

Yes, it looked very nice and simple. My plan is to make a similar casket
for myself and leave it to my kids to glue together when needed.

The Pope was indeed a man of God.

Dave



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Joe Wilding wrote:

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I just KNEW that someone was going to comment here. I mentioned it to
LOML and sorta like Mike in Mystic's SWMBO, her eyes rolled back into
her head and she walked off with a sigh. Anybody here thought about
making their own coffin?
grimace,
jo4hn
Mine's gonna have fake dovetails cut out of contrasting wood
-grain tape to cover the nail heads.

--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA

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Stephen M wrote:
I did!!!!


Same here. Nice!

Barry

"Joe Wilding" wrote in message
news:1112970259.d8a20264a442f9679321370f513d042f@t eranews...
Relatively simple design, but very nice looking. I heard on the radio
this morning it is made of Cypress. It is installed in a zinc container,
and that inside another walnut case. I am curious to see the details on
that, although it may be very modest too.

The Pope was truly a great man, as evidenced by the turnout and attention
given to him this week and at his funeral.




I am glad to hear that I am not alone. I found myself sitting there looking
at it and thinking the woodworker who built this coffin was 1. very honored
at being given the job, 2. was evidently a master at his trade, and 3. an
artist beyond compare. I too wondered about walnut outer coffin. Since it
was the last in the series and then put in the ground under St. Peter's, we
will never see it. I would be willing to bet long odds that if the same
craftsman built it, that it too is beautiful.
Beej

"B a r r y" wrote in message
om...
Stephen M wrote:
I did!!!!


Same here. Nice!

Barry


Nice DT's, but it looked like a polyurethane finish to me. The shiny
plastic look was ... unfortunate.

--
********
Bill Pounds
http://www.billpounds.com

Morris Dovey wrote:

Yes. Did you notice the miter on the Pope himself?

har. And my dad was a 33 deg Mason.
j4

On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 16:23:54 -0400, Allen Epps
wrote:

the coffin was stunning and made of Pecan....

My neighbour is an undertaker (mortician to you guys). His coffins
are crap and _enormously_ overpriced. Undertaking wholesale is a
disgusting trade, ripping off the bereaved with rubbish products and
vast markups, when they're least able to look after themselves.

In article , Morris Dovey
wrote:

Did you notice the miter on the Pope himself?

GROAN!

--
~ Stay Calm... Be Brave... Wait for the Signs ~

In article , Andy Dingley
wrote:

On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 16:23:54 -0400, Allen Epps
wrote:

the coffin was stunning and made of Pecan....

My neighbour is an undertaker (mortician to you guys). His coffins
are crap and _enormously_ overpriced. Undertaking wholesale is a
disgusting trade, ripping off the bereaved with rubbish products and
vast markups, when they're least able to look after themselves.

In this case it was one he had picked out himself as he ended up
suffering from a long illness and passing away at age 89. Perhaps they
did spend more than they needed to. Don't know. Dont care. My aunt is
still healthly at age 87 and lives by herself on the farm. She'll
likley follow her mother who passed away at 101 after walking to the
dining room table in hte morning and taking a sip of coffee.

I'll be down in a couple weeks to do some work and if there's time do a
bit of wild Turkey hunting. (whom I fooling, there's never time

Allen

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
"jo4hn" wrote in message

Anybody here thought about making their own coffin?
grimace,
jo4hn


Yes, I have. I've thought about designing it as a curio cabinet for use
now, take out the shelves and put me in when the time comes. Seems silly
to spend a lot of money on a box that goes into the ground never to be seen
again. Cremation is a better option so I may just make an urn or box of
some sort.
Ed


My thought exactly. But expressing it would
probably **** off a lot of people who buy very
expensive coffins. I'll bet if you made your own
coffin (for someone else) and checked the funeral
home costs, you would find that they charged you
for making the coffin. Coffin supply/making is
pretty much sewn up, er, is that bottled up?

Beej-in-GA wrote:


I am glad to hear that I am not alone. I found myself sitting there looking
at it and thinking the woodworker who built this coffin was 1. very honored
at being given the job, 2. was evidently a master at his trade, and 3. an
artist beyond compare.

I would be so honored to get a call like that, I don't think I could
even accept payment.

I wonder if the woodworker is a Vatican employee?

Barry

Pounds on Wood wrote:

Nice DT's, but it looked like a polyurethane finish to me. The shiny
plastic look was ... unfortunate.


It looked to me like a lacquer piano finish.

Barry

George E. Cawthon wrote:

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
"jo4hn" wrote in message

Anybody here thought about making their own coffin?
grimace,
jo4hn


Yes, I have. I've thought about designing it as a curio cabinet for use
now, take out the shelves and put me in when the time comes. Seems
silly to spend a lot of money on a box that goes into the ground never to
be seen
again. Cremation is a better option so I may just make an urn or box of
some sort.
Ed


My thought exactly. But expressing it would
probably **** off a lot of people who buy very
expensive coffins. I'll bet if you made your own
coffin (for someone else) and checked the funeral
home costs, you would find that they charged you
for making the coffin. Coffin supply/making is
pretty much sewn up, er, is that bottled up?

FWIW, my mother asked me to have her cremated and bury her in a cardboard
box to do the mortician out of his pound of flesh. I really didn't have
the stomach to explain to her sister or her friends why I did that--went
with the cheapest urn they had instead. If I'd thought about it I'd have
used one of her vases, but I wasn't thinking too clearly at the time.

--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 22:29:24 GMT, jo4hn wrote:

Morris Dovey wrote:

Yes. Did you notice the miter on the Pope himself?

har. And my dad was a 33 deg Mason.
j4

So he was cold, huh?



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On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 00:36:38 GMT, B a r r y
wrote:

Beej-in-GA wrote:


I am glad to hear that I am not alone. I found myself sitting there looking
at it and thinking the woodworker who built this coffin was 1. very honored
at being given the job, 2. was evidently a master at his trade, and 3. an
artist beyond compare.

I would be so honored to get a call like that, I don't think I could
even accept payment.

I wonder if the woodworker is a Vatican employee?

Barry

On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 23:37:03 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:


FWIW, my mother asked me to have her cremated and bury her in a cardboard
box to do the mortician out of his pound of flesh. I really didn't have
the stomach to explain to her sister or her friends why I did that--went
with the cheapest urn they had instead. If I'd thought about it I'd have
used one of her vases, but I wasn't thinking too clearly at the time.

Mom has the cremated remains of a couple of her pets. When she goes
she said just mix her ashes up with theirs and sprinkle them around
the yard.

On a related note, wife and I were at the Tucson home and garden show
yesterday and one of the local mortuary/cemetaries was there drumming
up business. We inquired as to the price of cremation and they said
it they simply round up your carcass and light the fire, it's $2500.
If you want a service, with rented coffin, etc. it can go $5000!

But our money isn't worth anything anymore. I had surgery to repair a
torn rotator cuff last month. (Too much hand sanding and finish
rubbing, to keep it on topic).

The bills are starting to come in. I entered the hospital at 5:30 AM
to fill out paperwork and wait. At 7:30 they wheeled me into the OR.
Surgery lasted 2 1/2 hours and I was awake enough to get wheeled out
to my car by noon.

Had I not had insurance, such as it is, with a negotiated rate, the
total charges, not including the surgeon or the PT I'm currently going
through) were over $19,000. It was over five big ones just for
"sterile supplies". That's a lot of band-aids.

On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 00:36:38 GMT, B a r r y
wrote:

I wonder if the woodworker is a Vatican employee?

Given the usual way of such things in Italy, it's a tiny back-street
firm that has done this job for generations. They charge for it, but
only a modest amount. Then they have as much trade as they could want
from other people, "because it was good enough for Il Papa"

In article ,
Andy Dingley wrote:

My neighbour is an undertaker (mortician to you guys). His coffins
are crap and _enormously_ overpriced. Undertaking wholesale is a
disgusting trade, ripping off the bereaved with rubbish products and
vast markups, when they're least able to look after themselves.

One place online that sells wooden coffins at a pretty reasonable price
is:

http://www.trappistcaskets.com/showroom.html

It's a federal law that the funeral home has to use a coffin that you
provide from another source and cannot charge you extra for it.

--
Hank Gillette

Hank Gillette wrote:
In article ,
Andy Dingley wrote:


My neighbour is an undertaker (mortician to you guys). His coffins
are crap and _enormously_ overpriced. Undertaking wholesale is a
disgusting trade, ripping off the bereaved with rubbish products and
vast markups, when they're least able to look after themselves.


One place online that sells wooden coffins at a pretty reasonable price
is:

http://www.trappistcaskets.com/showroom.html

It's a federal law that the funeral home has to use a coffin that you
provide from another source and cannot charge you extra for it.

But, there is a way around that law. They have a set price for each
service on a sort of "a la carte menu" which is ungodly high, but they
have a "special deal" if you purchase ALL services from them. Believe
me, that special deal is no bargain.

Glen

I'd like to make my own urn. Anyone know what size it should be?

John


"Hank Gillette" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Andy Dingley wrote:

My neighbour is an undertaker (mortician to you guys). His coffins
are crap and _enormously_ overpriced. Undertaking wholesale is a
disgusting trade, ripping off the bereaved with rubbish products and
vast markups, when they're least able to look after themselves.

One place online that sells wooden coffins at a pretty reasonable price
is:

http://www.trappistcaskets.com/showroom.html

It's a federal law that the funeral home has to use a coffin that you
provide from another source and cannot charge you extra for it.

--
Hank Gillette

John wrote:
I'd like to make my own urn. Anyone know what size it should be?

Ah, the internet. What a great place to find answers to the most arcane
queries....


Take a look he

http://www.everlifememorials.com/urns/urns-size.htm

Tells you how to compute the volume needed for your cremains.

On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:53:27 -0400, "John"
wrote:

I'd like to make my own urn. Anyone know what size it should be?

Cubic inch per pound

Greetings and Salutations...

On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 08:24:18 -0600, "Joe Wilding"
wrote:

Relatively simple design, but very nice looking. I heard on the radio this
morning it is made of Cypress. It is installed in a zinc container, and that
inside another walnut case. I am curious to see the details on that,
although it may be very modest too.

The Pope was truly a great man, as evidenced by the turnout and attention
given to him this week and at his funeral.



As a matter of fact, I touched on that very fact while my
housemate and I were having a fine dinner at Outback Steakhouse last
night. I was also interested to see that it was NOT FAS Oak used
for the outer coffin. I liked the fact that it looked more like
#1 common or so...the knots, etc, made for a more interesting
appearance.
If I had a quibble, it would be that I might have been
inclinded to vary the size of the dovetails a bit...perhaps
widest at the top, and, shrinking a bit as they got to the bottom
but...hey...I'm Lutheran (*smile*)
As for his policies...I have to say that I, too, hold a
great deal of respect for him. Although there were a number of
areas where he held onto reactionary views that were not all
that appealing, he did a great deal to help bring Peace to the
world and to spread the idea of the Universal Community.
I can only hope that the NEXT Pope will be as good
for the world and the church as John Paul... and my prayers
go out to the Cardinals that have begun to wrestle with that
decision. I hope they choose wisely.
Regards
Dave Mundt

Joe Wilding wrote:

Relatively simple design, but very nice looking. I heard on the radio this
morning it is made of Cypress. It is installed in a zinc container, and that
inside another walnut case. I am curious to see the details on that,
although it may be very modest too.

The Pope was truly a great man, as evidenced by the turnout and attention
given to him this week and at his funeral.

Does anyone have a URL for a photograph of the coffin?

Andy Dingley wrote:

On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 16:23:54 -0400, Allen Epps
wrote:


the coffin was stunning and made of Pecan....


My neighbour is an undertaker (mortician to you guys). His coffins
are crap and _enormously_ overpriced. Undertaking wholesale is a
disgusting trade, ripping off the bereaved with rubbish products and
vast markups, when they're least able to look after themselves.

Still the best word on the subject: _The American Way of Death_ by
Jessica Mitford. (I met her once.)