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Darrell Feltmate
 
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I was reading the thread about threading jigs and started to think about the
stuff we do to impress one another.
1) No sign of how a piece was fastened to the lathe, even when the design is
not effected.
I have no problem admitting I used a lathe to make it and I fastened
it to the lathe
2) boxes with too tight a friction fit: look impressive but most people want
to open and close the box easily
3) threaded lids on boxes: see #2
4) bowls with ultra thin walls so they feel too light to use
5) hollow forms with ultra thin walls that feel too light for the size
6) long, thin spindles that really do nothing but look impressive
7) almost anything that David Springett can come up with
The thing is that most of this is non commercial but sure a lot of fun. It
also keeps us pushing for technique which will advance the craft. Having
turned a few long, thin and useless spindles makes the occasional gavel
handle and spatula much easier and therefore more time can be given to
design as opposed to skew technique.
Keep impressing me please. It is not all that hard and I love a piece that
makes me say, "how did he/she do that?" But also keep in mind that all
people are not turners and will tend to buy things they easily relate to.
Collectors now...they have learned to look.
Enough rambling, hand me that tool.


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God bless and safe turning
Darrell Feltmate
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Darrell Feltmate wrote:
I was reading the thread about threading jigs and started to think about the
stuff we do to impress one another.
1) No sign of how a piece was fastened to the lathe, even when the design is
not effected.
I have no problem admitting I used a lathe to make it and I fastened
it to the lathe
2) boxes with too tight a friction fit: look impressive but most people want
to open and close the box easily
3) threaded lids on boxes: see #2
4) bowls with ultra thin walls so they feel too light to use
5) hollow forms with ultra thin walls that feel too light for the size
6) long, thin spindles that really do nothing but look impressive
7) almost anything that David Springett can come up with
The thing is that most of this is non commercial but sure a lot of fun. It
also keeps us pushing for technique which will advance the craft. Having
turned a few long, thin and useless spindles makes the occasional gavel
handle and spatula much easier and therefore more time can be given to
design as opposed to skew technique.
Keep impressing me please. It is not all that hard and I love a piece that
makes me say, "how did he/she do that?" But also keep in mind that all
people are not turners and will tend to buy things they easily relate to.
Collectors now...they have learned to look.
Enough rambling, hand me that tool.



Here's a turning I just did only to impress other turners:

http://www.woodturner.org/photopost/....php?photo=963

Other than that, it has no useful value--but the one directly after it
is a bit more practical ;-)

Ken Grunke

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In article ,
Ken Grunke wrote:

Here's a turning I just did only to impress other turners:

http://www.woodturner.org/photopost/....php?photo=963


You oughta title that one "Got any Doan's Pills?"

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"Owen Lowe" wrote
Ken Grunke wrote:

Here's a turning I just did only to impress other turners:

http://www.woodturner.org/photopost/....php?photo=963


You oughta title that one "Got any Doan's Pills?"

Ken,
Impressive. It reminds me of either a spiral staircase or as Owen
suggested, a spine. Very nice.

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Martin Rost wrote:
"Owen Lowe" wrote

You oughta title that one "Got any Doan's Pills?"


Ken,
Impressive. It reminds me of either a spiral staircase or as Owen
suggested, a spine. Very nice.

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Martin
Long Island, New York




Funny, but thinking of titles for my turnings is the hardest part of the
whole process for me, so I hardly ever do it.
I'm gonna try getting a piece like this together for the AAW's Northern
Reflections exhibit, so a title would be appropriate.
I'm thinking that the staircase and spine concept can be combined to say
something about middle-aged health--like, "The Steep Climb to the Sphere
of Wellness", maybe?
thanks, guys,

Ken Grunke 51 and climbing
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Ken Grunke wrote:
Martin Rost wrote:

"Owen Lowe" wrote

You oughta title that one "Got any Doan's Pills?"


Ken,
Impressive. It reminds me of either a spiral staircase or as Owen
suggested, a spine. Very nice.

--
Martin
Long Island, New York




Funny, but thinking of titles for my turnings is the hardest part of the
whole process for me, so I hardly ever do it.
I'm gonna try getting a piece like this together for the AAW's Northern
Reflections exhibit, so a title would be appropriate.
I'm thinking that the staircase and spine concept can be combined to say
something about middle-aged health--like, "The Steep Climb to the Sphere
of Wellness", maybe?
thanks, guys,

Ken Grunke 51 and climbing
http://www.token.crwoodturner.com/ecc/

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"Stairway to heaven" And have Darrell bless it -- if he would be so kind
-- that should suffice.

Either that or you will have to find a UFO-ologist who will certify it
as "Way to the alien ship" ... I like the former...
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Ken Grunke wrote:


Here's a turning I just did only to impress other turners:

http://www.woodturner.org/photopost/....php?photo=963


It worked.


On one of the photos I panicked till I spotted a glue line. All I could
think was "I'll never be this good -- why bother trying!" At least I
hope I saw a glue line -- otherwise ....

Other than that, it has no useful value--but the one directly after it
is a bit more practical ;-)

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Will wrote:


It worked.


On one of the photos I panicked till I spotted a glue line. All I could
think was "I'll never be this good -- why bother trying!" At least I
hope I saw a glue line -- otherwise ....


Glue line?? what glue line, where?
;-)

OK, yes there is a glue line on the cherry piece, NOT the box elder
one--but I'll wager it's not where you think it is.
I can show you a very close cropping from the 1200 x 1600 pxl original,
it's barely visible--but do you wanna guess where it is first?

Ken

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Uh no!


Ken Grunke wrote:
Will wrote:



It worked.


On one of the photos I panicked till I spotted a glue line. All I
could think was "I'll never be this good -- why bother trying!" At
least I hope I saw a glue line -- otherwise ....



Glue line?? what glue line, where?
;-)

OK, yes there is a glue line on the cherry piece, NOT the box elder
one--but I'll wager it's not where you think it is.


I thought I saw a glue line on the box elder piece... That's the one
that bothered me... Maybe you poke something in from the end and then
"stoppered the piece with the finial... Too many possibilities...

Maybe not, But don't see how it could have been turned in one piece.

Perhaps you should send me aspirin in return for making my head hurt
like this...

Least you could do! LOL

I can show you a very close cropping from the 1200 x 1600 pxl original,
it's barely visible--but do you wanna guess where it is first?


Hope you enlighten us.

Beautiful work and finihing.


Ken

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Will wrote:


I thought I saw a glue line on the box elder piece... That's the one
that bothered me... Maybe you poke something in from the end and then
"stoppered the piece with the finial... Too many possibilities...

Maybe not, But don't see how it could have been turned in one piece.


Will, both pieces were simply held on a 3/8" screw spindle, or "wood
worm" as it's also known. I used a special chuck fixture I designed,
fabricated, and "market" that offsets the spindle from center (not going
into commercial production here, don't want to, but they are available
on a limited production basis--I've sold 9 so far).

You can see the setup he

http://www.token.crwoodturner.com/ecc/index.html

For all pieces like this, I start with drilling a 3/8" hole in the
bottom, screwing it on the spindle, then turning from top to bottom.
Each step in the spiral is turned at the same offset, about 5/16" from
center, but the piece is moved about it's own center by 30 degrees for
each step. Each step is sanded to 800 grit before going on to the next one.

When I get down to the base, I back the piece off a little on the
spindle so I can finish the bottom with a parting tool. That's it for
the box elder piece, but the cherry piece had some extra work because I
had to hollow out the base to fill it with lead shot.

Normally, a paperweight is hollowed out from the bottom and a plug glued
in so there's no glue joint visible. I didn't have an easy way to chuck
the piece that way, so I decided to hollow it out from the top.

So, once I was finished with the spiral part, but before shaping the
base too much, I made a 45 degree cone-shaped cut into the base to part
off the spiral.

I couldn't hollow the base with the spindle inside, so I removed it and
turned a scrap piece of cherry on a faceplate, with a short 3/8" dia.
plug turned into the end, and glued the base onto that so I could hollow it.

The 45 degree parting cut I had done allowed for a good centering fit to
glue the spiral back onto the base after hollowing and filling it with
the lead shot.
All I had left to do was finish turn the base, blend it in with the
spiral a little, then part it off from the waste block, whose short 3/8"
plug was left in the base to plug up the bottom.


I can show you a very close cropping from the 1200 x 1600 pxl
original, it's barely visible--but do you wanna guess where it is first?


Hope you enlighten us.

Beautiful work and finihing.


Thank you. Hope your headache is gone now!
Here's the pic of the glue line I promised--it's so close, you can see
my fingerprint LOL:

http://www.token.crwoodturner.com/images/glue-line.jpg

Ken

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You did it. I'm impressed!

Barry


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Darrell Feltmate wrote:
I was reading the thread about threading jigs and started to think about

the
stuff we do to impress one another.
1) No sign of how a piece was fastened to the lathe, even when the

design is
not effected.
I have no problem admitting I used a lathe to make it and I

fastened
it to the lathe
2) boxes with too tight a friction fit: look impressive but most people

want
to open and close the box easily
3) threaded lids on boxes: see #2
4) bowls with ultra thin walls so they feel too light to use
5) hollow forms with ultra thin walls that feel too light for the size
6) long, thin spindles that really do nothing but look impressive
7) almost anything that David Springett can come up with
The thing is that most of this is non commercial but sure a lot of fun.

It
also keeps us pushing for technique which will advance the craft. Having
turned a few long, thin and useless spindles makes the occasional gavel
handle and spatula much easier and therefore more time can be given to
design as opposed to skew technique.
Keep impressing me please. It is not all that hard and I love a piece

that
makes me say, "how did he/she do that?" But also keep in mind that all
people are not turners and will tend to buy things they easily relate

to.
Collectors now...they have learned to look.
Enough rambling, hand me that tool.



Here's a turning I just did only to impress other turners:

http://www.woodturner.org/photopost/....php?photo=963

Other than that, it has no useful value--but the one directly after it
is a bit more practical ;-)

Ken Grunke

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