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I briefly owned the McNasughton coring system, and found it
hard to use -- it stalled my 1.5HP Nova often, and I couldn't
control it easily.

But I've now realized that -- given the sort of wood I like to turn (burls
and exotics) -- the amount I'm losing by not using a corer
quickly adds up. So I'm reconsidering getting such a system.

Most of what I turn is pretty small -- bowls in the 9" x 9 x 4
down to e.g., small boxes from blackwood clarinet-bell rejects.

So... does anyone have experience with a corer system that will fairly
easily let me save cores from pretty small pieces of wood?


Thanks,

Andy Barss
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I would go back to the Mcnaughton. One thing that helps is to get the
mahoney video and read Joe Flemings article.

The Hahoney video is really good and a good investment.

I use the center saver with cottonwood. My first attempt would bog down
my lathe on a big piece of cottonwood but after doing some reading and
watching the video I've had no problems

Andrew Barss wrote:
I briefly owned the McNasughton coring system, and found it
hard to use -- it stalled my 1.5HP Nova often, and I couldn't
control it easily.

But I've now realized that -- given the sort of wood I like to turn (burls
and exotics) -- the amount I'm losing by not using a corer
quickly adds up. So I'm reconsidering getting such a system.

Most of what I turn is pretty small -- bowls in the 9" x 9 x 4
down to e.g., small boxes from blackwood clarinet-bell rejects.

So... does anyone have experience with a corer system that will fairly
easily let me save cores from pretty small pieces of wood?


Thanks,

Andy Barss

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Andrew,

If you go back to the McNaughton system I will be happy to work through your
difficulties with you. If it is used properly it will work well on your
Nova. Mike Mahoney's DVD would be a great help.

Greg Jensen
North American Rep Kelton Tools.


"Andrew Barss" wrote in message
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I briefly owned the McNasughton coring system, and found it
hard to use -- it stalled my 1.5HP Nova often, and I couldn't
control it easily.

But I've now realized that -- given the sort of wood I like to turn (burls
and exotics) -- the amount I'm losing by not using a corer
quickly adds up. So I'm reconsidering getting such a system.

Most of what I turn is pretty small -- bowls in the 9" x 9 x 4
down to e.g., small boxes from blackwood clarinet-bell rejects.

So... does anyone have experience with a corer system that will fairly
easily let me save cores from pretty small pieces of wood?


Thanks,

Andy Barss



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Andrew,

So... does anyone have experience with a corer system that will fairly
easily let me save cores from pretty small pieces of wood?


You may want to take a look at Bill Grumbine's home page. He has a
demonstration of the McNaughton system there. The address:
http://www.enter.net/~ultradad/ He also has a great DVD on bowl turning.

Harry


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Andy,
I've had the McNaughton system for several years, and the only thing
bad about it are the 'instructions' that come with it. They tell you
almost nothing about how to really use the tool. It took a lot of trial
and error, but now it works well for me.
I've used the Nova at the local Woodcraft store here in Eugene for
several demos, and found in to be okay. Definately, you have to use the
lower gears/pulleys when coring. Also, I used to core in the 200 to 300
rpm speed range, but now its more like 500 to 800 rpms. This is not a
tool to try to force, it does almost self feed.
For almost all of my coring I use the medium set of blades, and now
that they are available, the micro set work nicely on smaller pieces.
The large set of blades are only necessary for large bowls, in the 16
inch and larger size, and that size doesn't sell well for me so I don't
make too many.
McNaughton new and improved the cutter head shape a few years back
which greatly eased the tracking ability of the system. On the older
blades, the cutter head was flush with the inside of the blade, and
extended out past the outside of the blade.The newer blades come with a
spear point that is wider than the blade on both the inside and
outside. This makes it easier to correct the natural outward drift of
the cut as you core.
One accesory that you should make is a slip collar for post of the tool
rest so that you don't have to adjust every time for the proper height.
PVC pipe or end grain hard wood (I used cocobolo) work well.
If you can get them, Fred Holder's More Woodturning had a 4 part series
on the different coring systems from Feb. through May of 2004 (I think
those are the months)
One final thing, Mike Mahoney, an expert on using this system now has a
DVD out on how to use the system. I got it to see how someone else uses
the system. We don't do things quite the same way, due to different
styles, but the principles are the same. The system does work.
robo hippy



















Andrew Barss wrote:
I briefly owned the McNasughton coring system, and found it
hard to use -- it stalled my 1.5HP Nova often, and I couldn't
control it easily.

But I've now realized that -- given the sort of wood I like to turn

(burls
and exotics) -- the amount I'm losing by not using a corer
quickly adds up. So I'm reconsidering getting such a system.

Most of what I turn is pretty small -- bowls in the 9" x 9 x 4
down to e.g., small boxes from blackwood clarinet-bell rejects.

So... does anyone have experience with a corer system that will

fairly
easily let me save cores from pretty small pieces of wood?


Thanks,

Andy Barss




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robo hippy wrote:

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If you can get them, Fred Holder's More Woodturning had a 4 part series
on the different coring systems from Feb. through May of 2004 (I think
those are the months)
One final thing, Mike Mahoney, an expert on using this system now has a
DVD out on how to use the system. I got it to see how someone else uses
the system. We don't do things quite the same way, due to different
styles, but the principles are the same. The system does work.
robo hippy



You can get the part comparing the systems as one pdf at the web site
Fred set up for me.

http://www.fholder.com/Woodturning/lyn.html

You can get Joe's second part direct from him or as a More Woodturning
back issue.

And get the Mahoney and Oneway and Woodcut tapes and compare techniques
as well as systems (I believe the latter two are free).

For very small coring you can't match the Kelton. I have all three
systems and it may surprise everyone, but I actually use the Woodcut the
most often. Not as versatile as the others, but quick to set up and
foolproof. Again, though, for very small stuff, nothing has the
capabilities of the Kelton.

Lyn





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Lyn J. Mangiameli wrote:

: For very small coring you can't match the Kelton. I have all three
: systems and it may surprise everyone, but I actually use the Woodcut the
: most often. Not as versatile as the others, but quick to set up and
: foolproof. Again, though, for very small stuff, nothing has the
: capabilities of the Kelton.



That's what I was looking for -- I need to be able to salvage as much as
I can from smallish pieces -- the ability to cut a 14" bowl from a 17"
blank is nice, but not what I need.

-- Andy
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Leo Van Der Loo
 
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Hi Andy

Andy I do not have a coring system yet, but I have seen the use of the 3
systems that are most used and heard the comments of the turners that
owned more than one system, and one of the comments that was uniform in
the use of the Oneway system was, it's so easy to use there is no
comparison.

The way our turners club president put it, (he has the McNaughton and
the Oneway systems) "using the McNaughton is an adventure" and the
Oneway was all production, effortless.

Also the view of a local member that makes his living, turning thousands
of bowls, mostly Big leaf Maple, Australian and tropical burl wood, "I
could not do it if I still had to use the McNaughton".

Oneway now has the large coring systems, a 16" and 20" and 24".
New now, they have also mini systems, a 10" and 12".

I have an E-mail address here of a review of the Oneway system so you
can have the opinion of some one else as well.

http://www.lehighvalleywoodturners.com/page26.html

By the way I have no monetary or other connections or interests with Oneway.
I am just a very satisfied customer.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

Andrew Barss wrote:
I briefly owned the McNasughton coring system, and found it
hard to use -- it stalled my 1.5HP Nova often, and I couldn't
control it easily.

But I've now realized that -- given the sort of wood I like to turn (burls
and exotics) -- the amount I'm losing by not using a corer
quickly adds up. So I'm reconsidering getting such a system.

Most of what I turn is pretty small -- bowls in the 9" x 9 x 4
down to e.g., small boxes from blackwood clarinet-bell rejects.

So... does anyone have experience with a corer system that will fairly
easily let me save cores from pretty small pieces of wood?


Thanks,

Andy Barss


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Lyn J. Mangiameli
 
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Leo,
the problem is that though Oneway offers systems for lathes of various
swings, they aren't making smaller knives. Only the Mini system of
knives for the Kelton are going to perform the tasks that Andrew is most
concerned about: maximum yeild from purchased woods; and smaller blanks
(he mentions 9 inch and only 4 inches deep). The Oneway will at best
only have one knive that will allow for a normal bowl shaped core in the
sizes he discusses, and it will require a larger kerf. The Kelton will
offer him more cores and smaller kerfs (with the mini set). I've
encouraged Oneway to offer a smaller knive (about two years ago), but
they haven't seen fit to go in that direction. BTW, the two smaller
Oneway systems only offer one knife, which is pretty limiting.

I do like the Oneway for large corings and find it to be the safest and
easist for that purpose. I tend to go with the Woodcut for coring medium
sized blanks because I can very quickly set it up, reliably get two
cores, and take it down with little fuss and muss. The Kelton excels at
the smaller stuff and the unconventional, though I know a lot of folks
are quite content using it for big stuff as well (Bill Grumbine and Mike
Mahoney both stand out as examples). Obviously very few turners are
going to get all of them, but I do think one's individual needs can go a
long way towards pointing in the direction of one or another as being
most suitable. For Andrew, particulary since he already has many of the
Kelton components, getting a set of mini blades and the Mahoney video is
likely a good path for him.

Lyn

Leo Van Der Loo wrote:
Hi Andy

Andy I do not have a coring system yet, but I have seen the use of the 3
systems that are most used and heard the comments of the turners that
owned more than one system, and one of the comments that was uniform in
the use of the Oneway system was, it's so easy to use there is no
comparison.

The way our turners club president put it, (he has the McNaughton and
the Oneway systems) "using the McNaughton is an adventure" and the
Oneway was all production, effortless.

Also the view of a local member that makes his living, turning thousands
of bowls, mostly Big leaf Maple, Australian and tropical burl wood, "I
could not do it if I still had to use the McNaughton".

Oneway now has the large coring systems, a 16" and 20" and 24".
New now, they have also mini systems, a 10" and 12".

I have an E-mail address here of a review of the Oneway system so you
can have the opinion of some one else as well.

http://www.lehighvalleywoodturners.com/page26.html

By the way I have no monetary or other connections or interests with
Oneway.
I am just a very satisfied customer.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

Andrew Barss wrote:

I briefly owned the McNasughton coring system, and found it hard to
use -- it stalled my 1.5HP Nova often, and I couldn't control it easily.
But I've now realized that -- given the sort of wood I like to turn
(burls and exotics) -- the amount I'm losing by not using a corer
quickly adds up. So I'm reconsidering getting such a system.

Most of what I turn is pretty small -- bowls in the 9" x 9 x 4
down to e.g., small boxes from blackwood clarinet-bell rejects.

So... does anyone have experience with a corer system that will fairly
easily let me save cores from pretty small pieces of wood?


Thanks,

Andy Barss




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"Lyn J. Mangiameli" wrote: (clip) I tend to go with the Woodcut for coring
medium sized blanks(clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Wookcut and One-way both control the knives very securely, at the cost of
constraining the knife to a precisely circular path. Woodcut does it by
swinging the tool on a turntable, with a fixed axis. One-way does it by
introducing a curved toolrest, which supports the tool along a fixed arc.
This means that both systems produce spherical bowl blanks. McNaughton, on
the other hand, gives the turner more leeway in choosing the path of the
cut. The result is that the bowls can be varied in shape somewhat. The
price is a greater risk of catches, and more frayed nerves.

I watched a demonstration of the McNaughton system by our (then) club
president. He was able to drop out one bowl after another without the
slightest difficulty. In fact, he is so relaxed that he uses the system
without the big handle--claims it works better that way. He has convinced
even the skeptics in our group, including me.




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Hi Lyn

I do understand what you are saying, but I find a 6" core a very small
bowl blank, and that is what the Oneway is capable of doing at a minimum.
The other thing is that Andy states that he briefly owned a system, and
was reconsidering getting such a system, which in my view meant he does
not own one now.
If he still does have the coring system, than it would economically be a
better way to add to that, certainly.
The other reason I suggested the Oneway was for that Andy states that he
found the McNaughton system hard to use.
For what I have seen The Oneway is a much easier and safer system to use
And also the way I understand the mechanical advantage of the Oneway
system, it is a superior setup in my opinion, that does not take away of
course, as you say that the McNaugthton is a very flexible system and
certainly is being used successfully by some turners.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

Lyn J. Mangiameli wrote:
Leo,
the problem is that though Oneway offers systems for lathes of various
swings, they aren't making smaller knives. Only the Mini system of
knives for the Kelton are going to perform the tasks that Andrew is most
concerned about: maximum yeild from purchased woods; and smaller blanks
(he mentions 9 inch and only 4 inches deep). The Oneway will at best
only have one knive that will allow for a normal bowl shaped core in the
sizes he discusses, and it will require a larger kerf. The Kelton will
offer him more cores and smaller kerfs (with the mini set). I've
encouraged Oneway to offer a smaller knive (about two years ago), but
they haven't seen fit to go in that direction. BTW, the two smaller
Oneway systems only offer one knife, which is pretty limiting.

I do like the Oneway for large corings and find it to be the safest and
easist for that purpose. I tend to go with the Woodcut for coring medium
sized blanks because I can very quickly set it up, reliably get two
cores, and take it down with little fuss and muss. The Kelton excels at
the smaller stuff and the unconventional, though I know a lot of folks
are quite content using it for big stuff as well (Bill Grumbine and Mike
Mahoney both stand out as examples). Obviously very few turners are
going to get all of them, but I do think one's individual needs can go a
long way towards pointing in the direction of one or another as being
most suitable. For Andrew, particulary since he already has many of the
Kelton components, getting a set of mini blades and the Mahoney video is
likely a good path for him.

Lyn

Leo Van Der Loo wrote:

Hi Andy

Andy I do not have a coring system yet, but I have seen the use of the
3 systems that are most used and heard the comments of the turners
that owned more than one system, and one of the comments that was
uniform in the use of the Oneway system was, it's so easy to use there
is no comparison.

The way our turners club president put it, (he has the McNaughton and
the Oneway systems) "using the McNaughton is an adventure" and the
Oneway was all production, effortless.

Also the view of a local member that makes his living, turning
thousands of bowls, mostly Big leaf Maple, Australian and tropical
burl wood, "I could not do it if I still had to use the McNaughton".

Oneway now has the large coring systems, a 16" and 20" and 24".
New now, they have also mini systems, a 10" and 12".

I have an E-mail address here of a review of the Oneway system so you
can have the opinion of some one else as well.

http://www.lehighvalleywoodturners.com/page26.html

By the way I have no monetary or other connections or interests with
Oneway.
I am just a very satisfied customer.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

Andrew Barss wrote:

I briefly owned the McNasughton coring system, and found it hard to
use -- it stalled my 1.5HP Nova often, and I couldn't control it easily.
But I've now realized that -- given the sort of wood I like to turn
(burls and exotics) -- the amount I'm losing by not using a corer
quickly adds up. So I'm reconsidering getting such a system.

Most of what I turn is pretty small -- bowls in the 9" x 9 x 4
down to e.g., small boxes from blackwood clarinet-bell rejects.

So... does anyone have experience with a corer system that will
fairly easily let me save cores from pretty small pieces of wood?


Thanks,

Andy Barss






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Good comments Leo.

Another comment about the Oneway coring system (and probably several of
the others) is that people seem to think that it cuts cores of ONLY
spherical sections. This is way too simplistic and is using the system
at its minimal functionality. While the cutters do scribe an arc, the
center of that arc does not need to be on the centerline of the lathe.

Depending on the size of the blank and the choice of cutter you can cut
near conical sections to almost flat sections. I will agree that if you
want to do exactly what Mike Mahoney does, the McNaughton system is the
best. It is probably the best for other jobs as well. But too many
'expert reviewers' seem to write off the other systems as limited when
what is really limites is their imaginations.

Off my soapbox, back to sawdust.
David



Leo Van Der Loo wrote:


Hi Lyn

I do understand what you are saying, but I find a 6" core a very small
bowl blank, and that is what the Oneway is capable of doing at a minimum.
The other thing is that Andy states that he briefly owned a system, and
was reconsidering getting such a system, which in my view meant he does
not own one now.
If he still does have the coring system, than it would economically be a
better way to add to that, certainly.
The other reason I suggested the Oneway was for that Andy states that he
found the McNaughton system hard to use.
For what I have seen The Oneway is a much easier and safer system to use
And also the way I understand the mechanical advantage of the Oneway
system, it is a superior setup in my opinion, that does not take away of
course, as you say that the McNaugthton is a very flexible system and
certainly is being used successfully by some turners.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

Lyn J. Mangiameli wrote:

Leo,
the problem is that though Oneway offers systems for lathes of various
swings, they aren't making smaller knives. Only the Mini system of
knives for the Kelton are going to perform the tasks that Andrew is
most concerned about: maximum yeild from purchased woods; and smaller
blanks (he mentions 9 inch and only 4 inches deep). The Oneway will
at best only have one knive that will allow for a normal bowl shaped
core in the sizes he discusses, and it will require a larger kerf. The
Kelton will offer him more cores and smaller kerfs (with the mini
set). I've encouraged Oneway to offer a smaller knive (about two years
ago), but they haven't seen fit to go in that direction. BTW, the two
smaller Oneway systems only offer one knife, which is pretty limiting.

I do like the Oneway for large corings and find it to be the safest
and easist for that purpose. I tend to go with the Woodcut for coring
medium sized blanks because I can very quickly set it up, reliably get
two cores, and take it down with little fuss and muss. The Kelton
excels at the smaller stuff and the unconventional, though I know a
lot of folks are quite content using it for big stuff as well (Bill
Grumbine and Mike Mahoney both stand out as examples). Obviously very
few turners are going to get all of them, but I do think one's
individual needs can go a long way towards pointing in the direction
of one or another as being most suitable. For Andrew, particulary
since he already has many of the Kelton components, getting a set of
mini blades and the Mahoney video is likely a good path for him.

Lyn

Leo Van Der Loo wrote:

Hi Andy

Andy I do not have a coring system yet, but I have seen the use of
the 3 systems that are most used and heard the comments of the
turners that owned more than one system, and one of the comments that
was uniform in the use of the Oneway system was, it's so easy to use
there is no comparison.

The way our turners club president put it, (he has the McNaughton and
the Oneway systems) "using the McNaughton is an adventure" and the
Oneway was all production, effortless.

Also the view of a local member that makes his living, turning
thousands of bowls, mostly Big leaf Maple, Australian and tropical
burl wood, "I could not do it if I still had to use the McNaughton".

Oneway now has the large coring systems, a 16" and 20" and 24".
New now, they have also mini systems, a 10" and 12".

I have an E-mail address here of a review of the Oneway system so you
can have the opinion of some one else as well.

http://www.lehighvalleywoodturners.com/page26.html

By the way I have no monetary or other connections or interests with
Oneway.
I am just a very satisfied customer.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

Andrew Barss wrote:

I briefly owned the McNasughton coring system, and found it hard to
use -- it stalled my 1.5HP Nova often, and I couldn't control it
easily.
But I've now realized that -- given the sort of wood I like to turn
(burls and exotics) -- the amount I'm losing by not using a corer
quickly adds up. So I'm reconsidering getting such a system.

Most of what I turn is pretty small -- bowls in the 9" x 9 x 4
down to e.g., small boxes from blackwood clarinet-bell rejects.

So... does anyone have experience with a corer system that will
fairly easily let me save cores from pretty small pieces of wood?


Thanks,

Andy Barss






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Lyn J. Mangiameli
 
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First David

David Wade wrote:
Good comments Leo.

Another comment about the Oneway coring system (and probably several of
the others) is that people seem to think that it cuts cores of ONLY
spherical sections. This is way too simplistic and is using the system
at its minimal functionality. While the cutters do scribe an arc, the
center of that arc does not need to be on the centerline of the lathe.


This is certainly true and has been discussed by both Joe Fleming and
myself, not to mention the folks at Oneway (interestingly, it is not
demonstrated at all in my copy of the Oneway video on their system). It
does not, however, seem to be the primary issue for Andrew. He is
talking about obtaining maximum yield from what he describes as "pretty
small pieces of wood."

Depending on the size of the blank and the choice of cutter you can cut
near conical sections to almost flat sections. I will agree that if you
want to do exactly what Mike Mahoney does, the McNaughton system is the
best. It is probably the best for other jobs as well. But too many
'expert reviewers' seem to write off the other systems as limited when
what is really limites is their imaginations.


It is not limited imagination to recognize that one system that offers
knives of smaller arc and thinner blade will allow more yeild in "pretty
small pieces." All coring systems, and indeed pretty much every tool is
limited in some way or another. What is usually helpful for folks is to
be able to recognize the limitations and weigh them against the
capabilities, relative to their own needs. In my case, I think the
Oneway system is superb for deep coring of large bowls because it is the
only system that provides for internal support of the knife. But it
cannot take out a hemispherical core of 3.5 inches due to the arc size
of the smallest available knife, no matter how you twiddle with it.

Have you actually read my article comparing the systems? I received
positive feedback from every one of the manufacturers except Stewart who
did not comment. All three commented that they felt I did a good and
fair job of describing and comparing their systems. Of course you may be
more critical than they were.

Regardless, I use them all, with what imagination I have, as they meet
my needs of the moment.

Now on to Leo

Off my soapbox, back to sawdust.
David



Leo Van Der Loo wrote:



Hi Lyn

I do understand what you are saying, but I find a 6" core a very small
bowl blank, and that is what the Oneway is capable of doing at a minimum.


I agree that many will find a 6 inch hemispherical core to be a small
bowl blank, but some (I'm one) find it quite desirable to obtain
hemispherical cores of smaller size. It just isn't worth the trouble on
common and "free" woods, but if you are working with very expensive or
unusual woods, it is often quite nice to obtain small cores for bowls. I
recently had some Amboyna burl which fits that description quite well. I
made bowls as small as 2 inches (maybe unhandled tea cup might be a
better descriptor) and it was quite attractive and appreciated by its
recipient. Now such sizes are usually useless for the professional
(though consider the size of most of Stocksdales bowls), or from a wood
like plain Maple or Mahogany, but if from Blackwood or an old stash of
Brazilian Rosewood, or Thuya burl, or some other highly figured or
precious wood it becomes a different story. I get the impression that
Andrew is speaking of just such woods (part of it is because he lives in
the desert and buys most of his wood).

The other thing is that Andy states that he briefly owned a system,
and was reconsidering getting such a system, which in my view meant he
does not own one now.


You are correct, I mis-remembered that and it does change the economic
part of the equation.

If he still does have the coring system, than it would economically be
a better way to add to that, certainly.
The other reason I suggested the Oneway was for that Andy states that
he found the McNaughton system hard to use.


And a good rationale, if not constrained by his needs to obtain maximum
yeild from small pieces.
For what I have seen The Oneway is a much easier

"Easier" covers a lot of territory. Is is easier to control the blade
deep in a blank? Yes, I personally find the Oneway to be easier for me.
But easier to use, well that includes things like set up, adjustment,
and take down. The Oneway system is heavy and bulky to store. I don't
consider it easy to get set up on the lathe (it is heavy and you have to
bolt it on), or easy to dismount, or easy to store. I can put into use
and remove from use both of its competitors in half the time of the
Oneway. This is just the price one pays for the ruggedness and extra
support. If one is going to spend a day coring bowls, the setup is
inconsequential. If one is moving between tasks on the lathe, it is so
much quicker and easier to just pop the Kelton or even the Woodcut into
the banjo and have at it, then pop them back out.

and safer system to use

Yes, I think the Oneway is the safest system to use, both with respect
to operator error and tool care. The Woodcut is not far behind, within
its capabilities, perhaps even safer on smaller lathes with its
tailstock support and almost foolproof set up.

And also the way I understand the mechanical advantage of the Oneway
system, it is a superior setup in my opinion,


For deep coring I think this is very true. It becomes much less of an
issue for more shallow coring.
that does not take away
of course, as you say that the McNaugthton is a very flexible system
and certainly is being used successfully by some turners.


I'm not a partisan for any of the systems. Each truly has its advantages
and disadvantages and the more turners are aware of their own coring
needs, and how the characteristics of the available systems will best
interface with their needs, the more likely they will be satisfied with
their choice. The only reason I've taken the time to stay with this
thread is to emphasize that based on my personal familiarity with all of
them, there is no single best system for all turners (and sometimes, as
in my case, for even a single turner).

Lyn

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

Lyn J. Mangiameli wrote:

Leo,
the problem is that though Oneway offers systems for lathes of
various swings, they aren't making smaller knives. Only the Mini
system of knives for the Kelton are going to perform the tasks that
Andrew is most concerned about: maximum yeild from purchased woods;
and smaller blanks (he mentions 9 inch and only 4 inches deep). The
Oneway will at best only have one knive that will allow for a normal
bowl shaped core in the sizes he discusses, and it will require a
larger kerf. The Kelton will offer him more cores and smaller kerfs
(with the mini set). I've encouraged Oneway to offer a smaller knive
(about two years ago), but they haven't seen fit to go in that
direction. BTW, the two smaller Oneway systems only offer one knife,
which is pretty limiting.

I do like the Oneway for large corings and find it to be the safest
and easist for that purpose. I tend to go with the Woodcut for coring
medium sized blanks because I can very quickly set it up, reliably
get two cores, and take it down with little fuss and muss. The Kelton
excels at the smaller stuff and the unconventional, though I know a
lot of folks are quite content using it for big stuff as well (Bill
Grumbine and Mike Mahoney both stand out as examples). Obviously very
few turners are going to get all of them, but I do think one's
individual needs can go a long way towards pointing in the direction
of one or another as being most suitable. For Andrew, particulary
since he already has many of the Kelton components, getting a set of
mini blades and the Mahoney video is likely a good path for him.

Lyn

Leo Van Der Loo wrote:

Hi Andy

Andy I do not have a coring system yet, but I have seen the use of
the 3 systems that are most used and heard the comments of the
turners that owned more than one system, and one of the comments
that was uniform in the use of the Oneway system was, it's so easy
to use there is no comparison.

The way our turners club president put it, (he has the McNaughton
and the Oneway systems) "using the McNaughton is an adventure" and
the Oneway was all production, effortless.

Also the view of a local member that makes his living, turning
thousands of bowls, mostly Big leaf Maple, Australian and tropical
burl wood, "I could not do it if I still had to use the McNaughton".

Oneway now has the large coring systems, a 16" and 20" and 24".
New now, they have also mini systems, a 10" and 12".

I have an E-mail address here of a review of the Oneway system so
you can have the opinion of some one else as well.

http://www.lehighvalleywoodturners.com/page26.html

By the way I have no monetary or other connections or interests with
Oneway.
I am just a very satisfied customer.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

Andrew Barss wrote:

I briefly owned the McNasughton coring system, and found it hard to
use -- it stalled my 1.5HP Nova often, and I couldn't control it
easily.
But I've now realized that -- given the sort of wood I like to turn
(burls and exotics) -- the amount I'm losing by not using a corer
quickly adds up. So I'm reconsidering getting such a system.

Most of what I turn is pretty small -- bowls in the 9" x 9 x 4
down to e.g., small boxes from blackwood clarinet-bell rejects.

So... does anyone have experience with a corer system that will
fairly easily let me save cores from pretty small pieces of wood?


Thanks,

Andy Barss








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Andrew Barss
 
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Leo Van Der Loo wrote:


: Hi Lyn

: I do understand what you are saying, but I find a 6" core a very small
: bowl blank, and that is what the Oneway is capable of doing at a minimum.
: The other thing is that Andy states that he briefly owned a system, and
: was reconsidering getting such a system, which in my view meant he does
: not own one now.


That's correct -- I sold the whole system two years ago, when the building
that now houses my shop was being built.

Lyn's point about my needing coring for small blanks is correct --
there's not lot of free wood in Tucson, and so I buy most of what I turn,
and that limits me to smaller bowl blanks.


I really want to thanks everyone who's participated in this thread -- it's
been most helpful.

-- Andy
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Ken Moon
 
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"Andrew Barss" wrote in message
...
Leo Van Der Loo wrote:

SNIP ...
Lyn's point about my needing coring for small blanks is correct --
there's not lot of free wood in Tucson, and so I buy most of what I turn,
and that limits me to smaller bowl blanks.

SNIP .....
===============
It seems I remember Spanish olive and desert ironwood being native near
Phoenix. Have you tried to locate any "free" samples of these? They're both
beautiful woods and turn well.

Ken Moon
Webberville, TX




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william kossack
 
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I have both the mini and the large McNaughton blades. I tend to use the
minis more often but that is because finding chunks large enough for the
large blades is difficult. Wood sellers don't keep stuff large enough
for the large McNaughton blades. Shoot in Denver they don't even have
pieces large enough to bother coring.

I got my center savers last year during the summer after I had collected
most of my wood. This spring I'm going to make sure to cut bigger
pieces at the tree dump so I can make better use of them.

Lyn J. Mangiameli wrote:
Leo,
the problem is that though Oneway offers systems for lathes of various
swings, they aren't making smaller knives. Only the Mini system of
knives for the Kelton are going to perform the tasks that Andrew is most
concerned about: maximum yeild from purchased woods; and smaller blanks
(he mentions 9 inch and only 4 inches deep). The Oneway will at best
only have one knive that will allow for a normal bowl shaped core in the
sizes he discusses, and it will require a larger kerf. The Kelton will
offer him more cores and smaller kerfs (with the mini set). I've
encouraged Oneway to offer a smaller knive (about two years ago), but
they haven't seen fit to go in that direction. BTW, the two smaller
Oneway systems only offer one knife, which is pretty limiting.

I do like the Oneway for large corings and find it to be the safest and
easist for that purpose. I tend to go with the Woodcut for coring medium
sized blanks because I can very quickly set it up, reliably get two
cores, and take it down with little fuss and muss. The Kelton excels at
the smaller stuff and the unconventional, though I know a lot of folks
are quite content using it for big stuff as well (Bill Grumbine and Mike
Mahoney both stand out as examples). Obviously very few turners are
going to get all of them, but I do think one's individual needs can go a
long way towards pointing in the direction of one or another as being
most suitable. For Andrew, particulary since he already has many of the
Kelton components, getting a set of mini blades and the Mahoney video is
likely a good path for him.

Lyn

Leo Van Der Loo wrote:

Hi Andy

Andy I do not have a coring system yet, but I have seen the use of the
3 systems that are most used and heard the comments of the turners
that owned more than one system, and one of the comments that was
uniform in the use of the Oneway system was, it's so easy to use there
is no comparison.

The way our turners club president put it, (he has the McNaughton and
the Oneway systems) "using the McNaughton is an adventure" and the
Oneway was all production, effortless.

Also the view of a local member that makes his living, turning
thousands of bowls, mostly Big leaf Maple, Australian and tropical
burl wood, "I could not do it if I still had to use the McNaughton".

Oneway now has the large coring systems, a 16" and 20" and 24".
New now, they have also mini systems, a 10" and 12".

I have an E-mail address here of a review of the Oneway system so you
can have the opinion of some one else as well.

http://www.lehighvalleywoodturners.com/page26.html

By the way I have no monetary or other connections or interests with
Oneway.
I am just a very satisfied customer.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

Andrew Barss wrote:

I briefly owned the McNasughton coring system, and found it hard to
use -- it stalled my 1.5HP Nova often, and I couldn't control it easily.
But I've now realized that -- given the sort of wood I like to turn
(burls and exotics) -- the amount I'm losing by not using a corer
quickly adds up. So I'm reconsidering getting such a system.

Most of what I turn is pretty small -- bowls in the 9" x 9 x 4
down to e.g., small boxes from blackwood clarinet-bell rejects.

So... does anyone have experience with a corer system that will
fairly easily let me save cores from pretty small pieces of wood?


Thanks,

Andy Barss





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robo hippy
 
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I have wondered if the One Way system would be more versatile if it
could be mounted on the banjo instead of a metal plate that you have to
bolt to the ways. Is this even possible?
robo hippy


















william kossack wrote:
I have both the mini and the large McNaughton blades. I tend to use

the
minis more often but that is because finding chunks large enough for

the
large blades is difficult. Wood sellers don't keep stuff large

enough
for the large McNaughton blades. Shoot in Denver they don't even

have
pieces large enough to bother coring.

I got my center savers last year during the summer after I had

collected
most of my wood. This spring I'm going to make sure to cut bigger
pieces at the tree dump so I can make better use of them.

Lyn J. Mangiameli wrote:
Leo,
the problem is that though Oneway offers systems for lathes of

various
swings, they aren't making smaller knives. Only the Mini system of
knives for the Kelton are going to perform the tasks that Andrew is

most
concerned about: maximum yeild from purchased woods; and smaller

blanks
(he mentions 9 inch and only 4 inches deep). The Oneway will at

best
only have one knive that will allow for a normal bowl shaped core

in the
sizes he discusses, and it will require a larger kerf. The Kelton

will
offer him more cores and smaller kerfs (with the mini set). I've
encouraged Oneway to offer a smaller knive (about two years ago),

but
they haven't seen fit to go in that direction. BTW, the two smaller


Oneway systems only offer one knife, which is pretty limiting.

I do like the Oneway for large corings and find it to be the safest

and
easist for that purpose. I tend to go with the Woodcut for coring

medium
sized blanks because I can very quickly set it up, reliably get two


cores, and take it down with little fuss and muss. The Kelton

excels at
the smaller stuff and the unconventional, though I know a lot of

folks
are quite content using it for big stuff as well (Bill Grumbine and

Mike
Mahoney both stand out as examples). Obviously very few turners are


going to get all of them, but I do think one's individual needs can

go a
long way towards pointing in the direction of one or another as

being
most suitable. For Andrew, particulary since he already has many of

the
Kelton components, getting a set of mini blades and the Mahoney

video is
likely a good path for him.

Lyn

Leo Van Der Loo wrote:

Hi Andy

Andy I do not have a coring system yet, but I have seen the use of

the
3 systems that are most used and heard the comments of the turners


that owned more than one system, and one of the comments that was
uniform in the use of the Oneway system was, it's so easy to use

there
is no comparison.

The way our turners club president put it, (he has the McNaughton

and
the Oneway systems) "using the McNaughton is an adventure" and the


Oneway was all production, effortless.

Also the view of a local member that makes his living, turning
thousands of bowls, mostly Big leaf Maple, Australian and tropical


burl wood, "I could not do it if I still had to use the

McNaughton".

Oneway now has the large coring systems, a 16" and 20" and 24".
New now, they have also mini systems, a 10" and 12".

I have an E-mail address here of a review of the Oneway system so

you
can have the opinion of some one else as well.

http://www.lehighvalleywoodturners.com/page26.html

By the way I have no monetary or other connections or interests

with
Oneway.
I am just a very satisfied customer.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

Andrew Barss wrote:

I briefly owned the McNasughton coring system, and found it hard

to
use -- it stalled my 1.5HP Nova often, and I couldn't control it

easily.
But I've now realized that -- given the sort of wood I like to

turn
(burls and exotics) -- the amount I'm losing by not using a corer


quickly adds up. So I'm reconsidering getting such a system.

Most of what I turn is pretty small -- bowls in the 9" x 9 x 4
down to e.g., small boxes from blackwood clarinet-bell rejects.

So... does anyone have experience with a corer system that will
fairly easily let me save cores from pretty small pieces of wood?


Thanks,

Andy Barss





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Derek Hartzell
 
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This would not be very easy to change if you see the picture at
http://www.oneway.on.ca/coring/ because the knife support toolrest has to be
able to be moved in and out independently of the knife's rotational center
(to accomodate different knifes). So they would have to have the mount come
over and then down to a lower level to hold the knife support toolrest.

"robo hippy" wrote in message
ups.com...
I have wondered if the One Way system would be more versatile if it
could be mounted on the banjo instead of a metal plate that you have to
bolt to the ways. Is this even possible?
robo hippy


















william kossack wrote:
I have both the mini and the large McNaughton blades. I tend to use

the
minis more often but that is because finding chunks large enough for

the
large blades is difficult. Wood sellers don't keep stuff large

enough
for the large McNaughton blades. Shoot in Denver they don't even

have
pieces large enough to bother coring.

I got my center savers last year during the summer after I had

collected
most of my wood. This spring I'm going to make sure to cut bigger
pieces at the tree dump so I can make better use of them.

Lyn J. Mangiameli wrote:
Leo,
the problem is that though Oneway offers systems for lathes of

various
swings, they aren't making smaller knives. Only the Mini system of
knives for the Kelton are going to perform the tasks that Andrew is

most
concerned about: maximum yeild from purchased woods; and smaller

blanks
(he mentions 9 inch and only 4 inches deep). The Oneway will at

best
only have one knive that will allow for a normal bowl shaped core

in the
sizes he discusses, and it will require a larger kerf. The Kelton

will
offer him more cores and smaller kerfs (with the mini set). I've
encouraged Oneway to offer a smaller knive (about two years ago),

but
they haven't seen fit to go in that direction. BTW, the two smaller


Oneway systems only offer one knife, which is pretty limiting.

I do like the Oneway for large corings and find it to be the safest

and
easist for that purpose. I tend to go with the Woodcut for coring

medium
sized blanks because I can very quickly set it up, reliably get two


cores, and take it down with little fuss and muss. The Kelton

excels at
the smaller stuff and the unconventional, though I know a lot of

folks
are quite content using it for big stuff as well (Bill Grumbine and

Mike
Mahoney both stand out as examples). Obviously very few turners are


going to get all of them, but I do think one's individual needs can

go a
long way towards pointing in the direction of one or another as

being
most suitable. For Andrew, particulary since he already has many of

the
Kelton components, getting a set of mini blades and the Mahoney

video is
likely a good path for him.

Lyn

Leo Van Der Loo wrote:

Hi Andy

Andy I do not have a coring system yet, but I have seen the use of

the
3 systems that are most used and heard the comments of the turners


that owned more than one system, and one of the comments that was
uniform in the use of the Oneway system was, it's so easy to use

there
is no comparison.

The way our turners club president put it, (he has the McNaughton

and
the Oneway systems) "using the McNaughton is an adventure" and the


Oneway was all production, effortless.

Also the view of a local member that makes his living, turning
thousands of bowls, mostly Big leaf Maple, Australian and tropical


burl wood, "I could not do it if I still had to use the

McNaughton".

Oneway now has the large coring systems, a 16" and 20" and 24".
New now, they have also mini systems, a 10" and 12".

I have an E-mail address here of a review of the Oneway system so

you
can have the opinion of some one else as well.

http://www.lehighvalleywoodturners.com/page26.html

By the way I have no monetary or other connections or interests

with
Oneway.
I am just a very satisfied customer.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

Andrew Barss wrote:

I briefly owned the McNasughton coring system, and found it hard

to
use -- it stalled my 1.5HP Nova often, and I couldn't control it

easily.
But I've now realized that -- given the sort of wood I like to

turn
(burls and exotics) -- the amount I'm losing by not using a corer


quickly adds up. So I'm reconsidering getting such a system.

Most of what I turn is pretty small -- bowls in the 9" x 9 x 4
down to e.g., small boxes from blackwood clarinet-bell rejects.

So... does anyone have experience with a corer system that will
fairly easily let me save cores from pretty small pieces of wood?


Thanks,

Andy Barss






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Phil Lackey
 
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Could someone tell me if you need to purchase anything other than the new
mini blades to use on the regular McNaughton system?
Thanks
Phil
"william kossack" wrote in message
...
I have both the mini and the large McNaughton blades. I tend to use the
minis more often but that is because finding chunks large enough for the
large blades is difficult. Wood sellers don't keep stuff large enough for
the large McNaughton blades. Shoot in Denver they don't even have pieces
large enough to bother coring.

I got my center savers last year during the summer after I had collected
most of my wood. This spring I'm going to make sure to cut bigger pieces
at the tree dump so I can make better use of them.

Lyn J. Mangiameli wrote:
Leo,
the problem is that though Oneway offers systems for lathes of various
swings, they aren't making smaller knives. Only the Mini system of knives
for the Kelton are going to perform the tasks that Andrew is most
concerned about: maximum yeild from purchased woods; and smaller blanks
(he mentions 9 inch and only 4 inches deep). The Oneway will at best
only have one knive that will allow for a normal bowl shaped core in the
sizes he discusses, and it will require a larger kerf. The Kelton will
offer him more cores and smaller kerfs (with the mini set). I've
encouraged Oneway to offer a smaller knive (about two years ago), but
they haven't seen fit to go in that direction. BTW, the two smaller
Oneway systems only offer one knife, which is pretty limiting.

I do like the Oneway for large corings and find it to be the safest and
easist for that purpose. I tend to go with the Woodcut for coring medium
sized blanks because I can very quickly set it up, reliably get two
cores, and take it down with little fuss and muss. The Kelton excels at
the smaller stuff and the unconventional, though I know a lot of folks
are quite content using it for big stuff as well (Bill Grumbine and Mike
Mahoney both stand out as examples). Obviously very few turners are going
to get all of them, but I do think one's individual needs can go a long
way towards pointing in the direction of one or another as being most
suitable. For Andrew, particulary since he already has many of the Kelton
components, getting a set of mini blades and the Mahoney video is likely
a good path for him.

Lyn

Leo Van Der Loo wrote:

Hi Andy

Andy I do not have a coring system yet, but I have seen the use of the 3
systems that are most used and heard the comments of the turners that
owned more than one system, and one of the comments that was uniform in
the use of the Oneway system was, it's so easy to use there is no
comparison.

The way our turners club president put it, (he has the McNaughton and
the Oneway systems) "using the McNaughton is an adventure" and the
Oneway was all production, effortless.

Also the view of a local member that makes his living, turning thousands
of bowls, mostly Big leaf Maple, Australian and tropical burl wood, "I
could not do it if I still had to use the McNaughton".

Oneway now has the large coring systems, a 16" and 20" and 24".
New now, they have also mini systems, a 10" and 12".

I have an E-mail address here of a review of the Oneway system so you
can have the opinion of some one else as well.

http://www.lehighvalleywoodturners.com/page26.html

By the way I have no monetary or other connections or interests with
Oneway.
I am just a very satisfied customer.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

Andrew Barss wrote:

I briefly owned the McNasughton coring system, and found it hard to
use -- it stalled my 1.5HP Nova often, and I couldn't control it
easily.
But I've now realized that -- given the sort of wood I like to turn
(burls and exotics) -- the amount I'm losing by not using a corer
quickly adds up. So I'm reconsidering getting such a system.

Most of what I turn is pretty small -- bowls in the 9" x 9 x 4
down to e.g., small boxes from blackwood clarinet-bell rejects.

So... does anyone have experience with a corer system that will fairly
easily let me save cores from pretty small pieces of wood?


Thanks,

Andy Barss






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robo hippy
 
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They will fit the regular handle, but you need a new tool rest, or an
adapter which Craft Supplies, or probably any one else that sells the
system has.
robo hippy














Phil Lackey wrote:
Could someone tell me if you need to purchase anything other than the

new
mini blades to use on the regular McNaughton system?
Thanks
Phil
"william kossack" wrote in message
...
I have both the mini and the large McNaughton blades. I tend to use

the
minis more often but that is because finding chunks large enough for

the
large blades is difficult. Wood sellers don't keep stuff large

enough for
the large McNaughton blades. Shoot in Denver they don't even have

pieces
large enough to bother coring.

I got my center savers last year during the summer after I had

collected
most of my wood. This spring I'm going to make sure to cut bigger

pieces
at the tree dump so I can make better use of them.

Lyn J. Mangiameli wrote:
Leo,
the problem is that though Oneway offers systems for lathes of

various
swings, they aren't making smaller knives. Only the Mini system of

knives
for the Kelton are going to perform the tasks that Andrew is most
concerned about: maximum yeild from purchased woods; and smaller

blanks
(he mentions 9 inch and only 4 inches deep). The Oneway will at

best
only have one knive that will allow for a normal bowl shaped core

in the
sizes he discusses, and it will require a larger kerf. The Kelton

will
offer him more cores and smaller kerfs (with the mini set). I've
encouraged Oneway to offer a smaller knive (about two years ago),

but
they haven't seen fit to go in that direction. BTW, the two

smaller
Oneway systems only offer one knife, which is pretty limiting.

I do like the Oneway for large corings and find it to be the

safest and
easist for that purpose. I tend to go with the Woodcut for coring

medium
sized blanks because I can very quickly set it up, reliably get

two
cores, and take it down with little fuss and muss. The Kelton

excels at
the smaller stuff and the unconventional, though I know a lot of

folks
are quite content using it for big stuff as well (Bill Grumbine

and Mike
Mahoney both stand out as examples). Obviously very few turners

are going
to get all of them, but I do think one's individual needs can go a

long
way towards pointing in the direction of one or another as being

most
suitable. For Andrew, particulary since he already has many of the

Kelton
components, getting a set of mini blades and the Mahoney video is

likely
a good path for him.

Lyn

Leo Van Der Loo wrote:

Hi Andy

Andy I do not have a coring system yet, but I have seen the use

of the 3
systems that are most used and heard the comments of the turners

that
owned more than one system, and one of the comments that was

uniform in
the use of the Oneway system was, it's so easy to use there is no


comparison.

The way our turners club president put it, (he has the McNaughton

and
the Oneway systems) "using the McNaughton is an adventure" and

the
Oneway was all production, effortless.

Also the view of a local member that makes his living, turning

thousands
of bowls, mostly Big leaf Maple, Australian and tropical burl

wood, "I
could not do it if I still had to use the McNaughton".

Oneway now has the large coring systems, a 16" and 20" and 24".
New now, they have also mini systems, a 10" and 12".

I have an E-mail address here of a review of the Oneway system so

you
can have the opinion of some one else as well.

http://www.lehighvalleywoodturners.com/page26.html

By the way I have no monetary or other connections or interests

with
Oneway.
I am just a very satisfied customer.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

Andrew Barss wrote:

I briefly owned the McNasughton coring system, and found it hard

to
use -- it stalled my 1.5HP Nova often, and I couldn't control it


easily.
But I've now realized that -- given the sort of wood I like to

turn
(burls and exotics) -- the amount I'm losing by not using a

corer
quickly adds up. So I'm reconsidering getting such a system.

Most of what I turn is pretty small -- bowls in the 9" x 9 x 4
down to e.g., small boxes from blackwood clarinet-bell rejects.

So... does anyone have experience with a corer system that will

fairly
easily let me save cores from pretty small pieces of wood?


Thanks,

Andy Barss







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william kossack
 
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There is a tool support that replaces your tool rest that holds the
blade and the handle to hold the blade. Make sure you get the one that
will work with the mini blades because they are thinner. Some sellers
may still have the older support which requires an 'adapter' to work
with the mini blades.

I also have the kel hollowing tools so I use one handle for both

However, unless someone shows you how to use them I recommend the
Mahoney video.



Phil Lackey wrote:
Could someone tell me if you need to purchase anything other than the new
mini blades to use on the regular McNaughton system?
Thanks
Phil
"william kossack" wrote in message
...

I have both the mini and the large McNaughton blades. I tend to use the
minis more often but that is because finding chunks large enough for the
large blades is difficult. Wood sellers don't keep stuff large enough for
the large McNaughton blades. Shoot in Denver they don't even have pieces
large enough to bother coring.

I got my center savers last year during the summer after I had collected
most of my wood. This spring I'm going to make sure to cut bigger pieces
at the tree dump so I can make better use of them.

Lyn J. Mangiameli wrote:

Leo,
the problem is that though Oneway offers systems for lathes of various
swings, they aren't making smaller knives. Only the Mini system of knives
for the Kelton are going to perform the tasks that Andrew is most
concerned about: maximum yeild from purchased woods; and smaller blanks
(he mentions 9 inch and only 4 inches deep). The Oneway will at best
only have one knive that will allow for a normal bowl shaped core in the
sizes he discusses, and it will require a larger kerf. The Kelton will
offer him more cores and smaller kerfs (with the mini set). I've
encouraged Oneway to offer a smaller knive (about two years ago), but
they haven't seen fit to go in that direction. BTW, the two smaller
Oneway systems only offer one knife, which is pretty limiting.

I do like the Oneway for large corings and find it to be the safest and
easist for that purpose. I tend to go with the Woodcut for coring medium
sized blanks because I can very quickly set it up, reliably get two
cores, and take it down with little fuss and muss. The Kelton excels at
the smaller stuff and the unconventional, though I know a lot of folks
are quite content using it for big stuff as well (Bill Grumbine and Mike
Mahoney both stand out as examples). Obviously very few turners are going
to get all of them, but I do think one's individual needs can go a long
way towards pointing in the direction of one or another as being most
suitable. For Andrew, particulary since he already has many of the Kelton
components, getting a set of mini blades and the Mahoney video is likely
a good path for him.

Lyn

Leo Van Der Loo wrote:


Hi Andy

Andy I do not have a coring system yet, but I have seen the use of the 3
systems that are most used and heard the comments of the turners that
owned more than one system, and one of the comments that was uniform in
the use of the Oneway system was, it's so easy to use there is no
comparison.

The way our turners club president put it, (he has the McNaughton and
the Oneway systems) "using the McNaughton is an adventure" and the
Oneway was all production, effortless.

Also the view of a local member that makes his living, turning thousands
of bowls, mostly Big leaf Maple, Australian and tropical burl wood, "I
could not do it if I still had to use the McNaughton".

Oneway now has the large coring systems, a 16" and 20" and 24".
New now, they have also mini systems, a 10" and 12".

I have an E-mail address here of a review of the Oneway system so you
can have the opinion of some one else as well.

http://www.lehighvalleywoodturners.com/page26.html

By the way I have no monetary or other connections or interests with
Oneway.
I am just a very satisfied customer.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

Andrew Barss wrote:


I briefly owned the McNasughton coring system, and found it hard to
use -- it stalled my 1.5HP Nova often, and I couldn't control it
easily.
But I've now realized that -- given the sort of wood I like to turn
(burls and exotics) -- the amount I'm losing by not using a corer
quickly adds up. So I'm reconsidering getting such a system.

Most of what I turn is pretty small -- bowls in the 9" x 9 x 4
down to e.g., small boxes from blackwood clarinet-bell rejects.

So... does anyone have experience with a corer system that will fairly
easily let me save cores from pretty small pieces of wood?


Thanks,

Andy Barss





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