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Hello,
I am interested in finding out what the limits of humidity should be when spraying lacquer on my turnings. I use an HVLP sprayer and spray outdoors in a 2 sided enclosed canopy but use a spray can for bowl repairs. I have been spraying for several years without any problems. That said, here is a problem I came up with yesterday. I was in the process of making some very minor repairs to some bowls that had been damaged by people handling them during an open studios tour. It had rained the day before and early the morning of my problem. I sanded the damaged area of a bowl then proceeded to spray it using a spray can of lacquer. As it started to dry I could see a haze building up, needless to say I now had to repair the repair. I will now have to remove the haze by sanding then re-spray the bowl, whenever it is safe to do so. I have used this process to make minor repairs many times before without problems, however; never directly or shortly after rainfall (rain started early here in my area). I am sure it is a humidity problem but I am not sure of the solution/prevention for the remainder of the winter season. My question; at what humidity levels is it safe to spray to avoid this problem of hazing? Today, the humidity level is at 50% inside my shop (garage). Any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.....Ralph |
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In article _pDdd.506023$8_6.90105@attbi_s04,
"Ralph J. Ramirez" wrote: I am interested in finding out what the limits of humidity should be when spraying lacquer on my turnings. I use an HVLP sprayer and spray outdoors in a 2 sided enclosed canopy but use a spray can for bowl repairs. I have been spraying for several years without any problems. That said, here is a problem I came up with yesterday. I was in the process of making some very minor repairs to some bowls that had been damaged by people handling them during an open studios tour. It had rained the day before and early the morning of my problem. I sanded the damaged area of a bowl then proceeded to spray it using a spray can of lacquer. As it started to dry I could see a haze building up, needless to say I now had to repair the repair. I will now have to remove the haze by sanding then re-spray the bowl, whenever it is safe to do so. I have used this process to make minor repairs many times before without problems, however; never directly or shortly after rainfall (rain started early here in my area). I am sure it is a humidity problem but I am not sure of the solution/prevention for the remainder of the winter season. My question; at what humidity levels is it safe to spray to avoid this problem of hazing? Today, the humidity level is at 50% inside my shop Hi Ralph. Yes I believe your problems are moisture caused. Check out Russ Fairfield's lacquer article on WoodCentral: http://www.woodcentral.com/russ/finish11.shtml The rest of the series is quite helpful too so is worth a bookmark: http://www.woodcentral.com/russ/russindex.shtml -- "To know the world intimately is the beginning of caring." -- Ann Hayman Zwinger |
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Sorry Owen,but reading this article leaves us with a few misconceptions I
nead to dispell.His idea regarding weather and not being able to circumvent it, is in my mind misleading.I live in South Florida where the temperature is rarely below 70 deg and the humidity is almost always above 70 percent.In these conditions I should not be able to use lacquer at all.The way to overcome thus is by using lacquer retarder and make sure the compressor has an in-line moisture filter.I use it everyday and have found these techniques will overcome the moisture I have to deal with.Thanks,Rick "Owen Lowe" wrote in message news ![]() In article _pDdd.506023$8_6.90105@attbi_s04, "Ralph J. Ramirez" wrote: I am interested in finding out what the limits of humidity should be when spraying lacquer on my turnings. I use an HVLP sprayer and spray outdoors in a 2 sided enclosed canopy but use a spray can for bowl repairs. I have been spraying for several years without any problems. That said, here is a problem I came up with yesterday. I was in the process of making some very minor repairs to some bowls that had been damaged by people handling them during an open studios tour. It had rained the day before and early the morning of my problem. I sanded the damaged area of a bowl then proceeded to spray it using a spray can of lacquer. As it started to dry I could see a haze building up, needless to say I now had to repair the repair. I will now have to remove the haze by sanding then re-spray the bowl, whenever it is safe to do so. I have used this process to make minor repairs many times before without problems, however; never directly or shortly after rainfall (rain started early here in my area). I am sure it is a humidity problem but I am not sure of the solution/prevention for the remainder of the winter season. My question; at what humidity levels is it safe to spray to avoid this problem of hazing? Today, the humidity level is at 50% inside my shop Hi Ralph. Yes I believe your problems are moisture caused. Check out Russ Fairfield's lacquer article on WoodCentral: http://www.woodcentral.com/russ/finish11.shtml The rest of the series is quite helpful too so is worth a bookmark: http://www.woodcentral.com/russ/russindex.shtml -- "To know the world intimately is the beginning of caring." -- Ann Hayman Zwinger |
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Piggyback - shellac fanciers move to slower alcohol like isopropyl in the
extremes. "rick pixley" wrote in message . .. Sorry Owen,but reading this article leaves us with a few misconceptions I nead to dispell.His idea regarding weather and not being able to circumvent it, is in my mind misleading.I live in South Florida where the temperature is rarely below 70 deg and the humidity is almost always above 70 percent.In these conditions I should not be able to use lacquer at all.The way to overcome thus is by using lacquer retarder and make sure the compressor has an in-line moisture filter.I use it everyday and have found these techniques will overcome the moisture I have to deal with.Thanks,Rick |
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Before you resand the area, try covering it with cotton cloth and using a
hot iron or heat gun. This will SOMETIMES pull the moisture out. It usually works to get moisture rings off tables. Just be careful not to melt the finish. Dave in Cherrylog, Ga. "Owen Lowe" wrote in message news ![]() In article _pDdd.506023$8_6.90105@attbi_s04, "Ralph J. Ramirez" wrote: I am interested in finding out what the limits of humidity should be when spraying lacquer on my turnings. I use an HVLP sprayer and spray outdoors in a 2 sided enclosed canopy but use a spray can for bowl repairs. I have been spraying for several years without any problems. That said, here is a problem I came up with yesterday. I was in the process of making some very minor repairs to some bowls that had been damaged by people handling them during an open studios tour. It had rained the day before and early the morning of my problem. I sanded the damaged area of a bowl then proceeded to spray it using a spray can of lacquer. As it started to dry I could see a haze building up, needless to say I now had to repair the repair. I will now have to remove the haze by sanding then re-spray the bowl, whenever it is safe to do so. I have used this process to make minor repairs many times before without problems, however; never directly or shortly after rainfall (rain started early here in my area). I am sure it is a humidity problem but I am not sure of the solution/prevention for the remainder of the winter season. My question; at what humidity levels is it safe to spray to avoid this problem of hazing? Today, the humidity level is at 50% inside my shop Hi Ralph. Yes I believe your problems are moisture caused. Check out Russ Fairfield's lacquer article on WoodCentral: http://www.woodcentral.com/russ/finish11.shtml The rest of the series is quite helpful too so is worth a bookmark: http://www.woodcentral.com/russ/russindex.shtml -- "To know the world intimately is the beginning of caring." -- Ann Hayman Zwinger |
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Thanks to all, I will check Woodcentral out for their article, also I have
thought of using retarder but will have to experiment with how much. Any thoughts on this? Thanks again....Ralph "Ralph J. Ramirez" wrote in message news:_pDdd.506023$8_6.90105@attbi_s04... Hello, I am interested in finding out what the limits of humidity should be when spraying lacquer on my turnings. I use an HVLP sprayer and spray outdoors in a 2 sided enclosed canopy but use a spray can for bowl repairs. I have been spraying for several years without any problems. That said, here is a problem I came up with yesterday. I was in the process of making some very minor repairs to some bowls that had been damaged by people handling them during an open studios tour. It had rained the day before and early the morning of my problem. I sanded the damaged area of a bowl then proceeded to spray it using a spray can of lacquer. As it started to dry I could see a haze building up, needless to say I now had to repair the repair. I will now have to remove the haze by sanding then re-spray the bowl, whenever it is safe to do so. I have used this process to make minor repairs many times before without problems, however; never directly or shortly after rainfall (rain started early here in my area). I am sure it is a humidity problem but I am not sure of the solution/prevention for the remainder of the winter season. My question; at what humidity levels is it safe to spray to avoid this problem of hazing? Today, the humidity level is at 50% inside my shop (garage). Any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.....Ralph |
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