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Maxprop March 19th 04 04:51 AM

rust-proofing the ways
 
What do most folks use to keep the ways from rusting, as well as the
headstock and tailstock sliding smoothly? I've tried grease and other
petroleum-based lubes (liquids), but they all foul with shaving dust
immediately, making a mess to clean up. Am I being overly critical, or is
there something that works well without collecting shavings?

Max



Victor Radin March 19th 04 05:52 AM

rust-proofing the ways
 
In article . net,
says...
What do most folks use to keep the ways from rusting, as well as the
headstock and tailstock sliding smoothly? I've tried grease and other
petroleum-based lubes (liquids), but they all foul with shaving dust
immediately, making a mess to clean up. Am I being overly critical, or is
there something that works well without collecting shavings?

Max


I used beeswax. Remove everything that slides then clean all the gunk
off the ways, underside of the tailstock, banjo, etc with mineral
spirits. I use a heat gun, but a hair dryer will work- warm up the ways
until the wax melts when rubbed on the metal, and apply a liberal coat
or three of wax. Warm it again so the wax melts into the pores of the
metal. Let cool then buff it out. Repeat. Same treatment for the
underside of the tailstock and banjo. I do this about every 5 or 6
months as part of regular maintenance, and never get any fouling from
shavings or dust. If I need periodic re-wax in the middle of a project
or between 'scheduled' maintenance times, I'll just put a single very
light coat of Minwax Paste Wax on and buff it out.

It's personal preference, but I like pure beeswax instead of the
carnauba mix, but as far as I know, almost any wax will work the same
way.

I avoid petro-lubes as they tend to get on the finished pieces and can
cause discoloration or deep stains.
--
Happy Turning,
Vic

Reyd Dorakeen March 19th 04 05:55 AM

rust-proofing the ways
 
look for dry lubricant, cant recall the exact name, but it comes in a
aerosol spray can, and works well for me, dries very slippery, and actually
seems to make getting finish and wax off the ways too.
in article et, Maxprop at
wrote on 3/18/04 8:51 PM:

What do most folks use to keep the ways from rusting, as well as the
headstock and tailstock sliding smoothly? I've tried grease and other
petroleum-based lubes (liquids), but they all foul with shaving dust
immediately, making a mess to clean up. Am I being overly critical, or is
there something that works well without collecting shavings?

Max




william_b_noble March 19th 04 07:18 AM

rust-proofing the ways
 
I use parafin, from an old candle, but you shouldn't worry about some rust,
the roughness helps hold the banjo and tailstock from slipping.
"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...
What do most folks use to keep the ways from rusting, as well as the
headstock and tailstock sliding smoothly? I've tried grease and other
petroleum-based lubes (liquids), but they all foul with shaving dust
immediately, making a mess to clean up. Am I being overly critical, or is
there something that works well without collecting shavings?

Max





Jgklr2732 March 19th 04 10:50 AM

rust-proofing the ways
 
WD 40 works for me. I use it after turning a green piece that has tannin and
the bed ways rust, the banjo squals and the tool rest binds. Spray some WD 40,
wipe with a paper towel and all works like new again with. I don't use wax
because it invites tailstock creep while WD 40 leaves a patina that helps the
grip.

DJ Delorie March 19th 04 01:24 PM

rust-proofing the ways
 

Paste wax (yup, same as I use for finishes). My lathe has been
through a rainstorm and the ways are still OK. Apply a new coat
before each session of green turning if you're paranoid.


Ray Sandusky March 20th 04 03:07 AM

rust-proofing the ways
 
I spray everything with WD-40 - I buy it by the gallon can and put it in a
spray bottle and squirt to all over everything almost every day - it works
for me on my Stubby

Ray


"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...
What do most folks use to keep the ways from rusting, as well as the
headstock and tailstock sliding smoothly? I've tried grease and other
petroleum-based lubes (liquids), but they all foul with shaving dust
immediately, making a mess to clean up. Am I being overly critical, or is
there something that works well without collecting shavings?

Max





AHilton March 20th 04 03:17 AM

rust-proofing the ways
 
How are you with Windex? g

- Andrew



"Ray Sandusky" wrote in message
...
I spray everything with WD-40 - I buy it by the gallon can and put it in a
spray bottle and squirt to all over everything almost every day - it works
for me on my Stubby

Ray





Ray Sandusky March 20th 04 02:37 PM

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I dont do windows!

R


"AHilton" wrote in message
...
How are you with Windex? g

- Andrew



"Ray Sandusky" wrote in message
...
I spray everything with WD-40 - I buy it by the gallon can and put it in

a
spray bottle and squirt to all over everything almost every day - it

works
for me on my Stubby

Ray







AHilton March 20th 04 09:39 PM

rust-proofing the ways
 
It was a reference to the movie "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" where the father
would use Windex for everything. Squirting it all over everything for any
ailment. Windows are good for you too. g

- Andrew


"Ray Sandusky" wrote in message
...
I dont do windows!

R


"AHilton" wrote in message
...
How are you with Windex? g

- Andrew



"Ray Sandusky" wrote in message
...
I spray everything with WD-40 - I buy it by the gallon can and put it

in
a
spray bottle and squirt to all over everything almost every day - it

works
for me on my Stubby

Ray





Maxprop March 21st 04 02:47 AM

rust-proofing the ways
 

"Ray Sandusky" wrote in message


I spray everything with WD-40 - I buy it by the gallon can and put it in a
spray bottle and squirt to all over everything almost every day - it works
for me on my Stubby


WD-40 and Boeshield T-9 are both water-displacement solutions, so they
should keep the ways nice and rust-free. I'll try the WD, since I have
about a half-dozen cans sitting around the shop.

Several of you suggested wax, so I might try some Maxima Products Chain Wax,
a product for lubing motorcycle chains--when I still had a motorcycle with a
chain, and see if that doesn't do the job as well. At last a possible use
for that half-used can that's been collecting dust.

Max



Silvan March 21st 04 04:59 PM

rust-proofing the ways
 
Maxprop wrote:

Several of you suggested wax, so I might try some Maxima Products Chain
Wax, a product for lubing motorcycle chains--when I still had a motorcycle
with a
chain, and see if that doesn't do the job as well. At last a possible
use for that half-used can that's been collecting dust.


I'd be afraid to try that, personally, though I don't really know what it
is.

FWIW, I use Johnson's paste wax on my mini. I haven't reapplied it in a
month or so, and almost everything I turn is wringing wet green. My lathe
sits near a door that doesn't seal very well, and some rain occasionally
gets into the shop. It's not a friendly environment, but so far, no rust.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/


Mike Vore March 21st 04 10:02 PM

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I use WD-40 in a pinch, but prefer Boshield T-9. It contains a wax
that will keep water off. Spray on, wipe off for a light coat of
wax. Spray on, wait a minute or so for a heavier coat of wax. Spray
on, wait a long time for a heavy coat of wax. Not only do I use it
on my lathe bed, but on my bicycle chain - it lubes and keeps it clean.
I have not had any other chain lube stay as clean as T-9. You may have
to look for it in you local Marine shop but it is making inroads into
the hardware/woodworking markets.

mike



On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 04:51:33 GMT, Maxprop wrote:


What do most folks use to keep the ways from rusting, as well as the
headstock and tailstock sliding smoothly? I've tried grease and other
petroleum-based lubes (liquids), but they all foul with shaving dust
immediately, making a mess to clean up. Am I being overly critical, or is
there something that works well without collecting shavings?

Max




--
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http://mike.vorefamily.net/omw - NEW * * Turned Wood items
http://mike.vorefamily.net/twr -The weblog

Maxprop March 21st 04 11:06 PM

rust-proofing the ways
 

"Silvan" wrote in message

Maxprop wrote:

Several of you suggested wax, so I might try some Maxima Products Chain
Wax, a product for lubing motorcycle chains--when I still had a

motorcycle
with a
chain, and see if that doesn't do the job as well. At last a possible
use for that half-used can that's been collecting dust.


I'd be afraid to try that, personally, though I don't really know what it
is.


Mike,

Maxima Products describes their Chain Was as a "superior power spray
lubricant for all chain care needs." It's a paraffin-base material in, I
suspect, a liquid petroleum-based carrier. They claim it will "displace
water" (ala WD-40), prevent corrosion, and is harmless to the rubber o-rings
in motorcycle chains. What I liked about it when I owned a motorcycle with
a chain was that it didn't fling off the rear sprocket, like oils and such.

I tried some on the ways today, and when I returned 15 minutes later it was
as if I'd applied a healthy coating of wax. It seemed fairly dry, as
opposed to gooey or damp.

I proceeded to turn a spindle of black walnut into a piece of attractive
firewood, and the dust and shavings didn't seem to stick to the ways. I'm
impressed, and may buy another can if it continues to perform this way.

Max




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