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I have seen Forstner bits sell for a wide variety of prices:
Lowes set sells for about $30. Woodcraft has sets for about $50 up to $400. I have also seen carbide tip sets for about $130. What should I look for? Is carbide better or is high speed steel OK? Is it hard to sharpen the non carbide bits? I will be using the bits in a chuck in the tailstock of my lathe cutting into various kinds of wood. Thanks for any info, Ted |
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Hello Ted,
Probably the Lowes set is imported and of questionable quality at that price. High speed steel will be quite adequate for your purposes. I personally don't like carbide tools for woodworking. They may hold their edge forever, but they are never very sharp. You can touch up a Forstner bit with a diamond hole, it use the little paddle type for this. Fred Holder http://www.fholder.com/ In article , Ted says... I have seen Forstner bits sell for a wide variety of prices: Lowes set sells for about $30. Woodcraft has sets for about $50 up to $400. I have also seen carbide tip sets for about $130. What should I look for? Is carbide better or is high speed steel OK? Is it hard to sharpen the non carbide bits? I will be using the bits in a chuck in the tailstock of my lathe cutting into various kinds of wood. Thanks for any info, Ted |
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I have seen Forstner bits sell for a wide variety of prices:
Lowes set sells for about $30. What should I look for? Is carbide better or is high speed steel OK? Is it hard to sharpen the non carbide bits? Like all things, you get what you pay for, and more expensive stuff is usually better. Having said that, I have the $30 set from Lowe's, and I have used most of the bits extensively. They make nice holes, and I'm glad to have them. The only one I've replaced so far is one I ruined by boring through several sheets of 60 grit sandpaper. I tried to sharpen it, and never got anywhere good. I replaced that one with a Freud bit, also from Lowe's. The one bit cost almost as much as the entire set. I must say that there is a *huge* difference in performance. It cuts about four times more easily, and is less likely to clog up. Whether you'd get even more performance by stepping up from Freud, I don't know. It probably really depends on how much cutting you plan to do with the things, in what kind of woods. I've bored probably into the hundreds of holes with my cheap $30 set, and I haven't felt the need to replace them, even after seeing the performance difference with a better quality bit. I will eventually replace them, but it's not urgent. The cheap bits work, and make nice holes, they just take much longer to cut. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ |
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I think the choice depends on the purpose of the hole.
If the hole will be visible, I have had good luck with Freud carbide bits and then sanding the hole on the late with 80/120/150 grits to minimize end grain tearout visibility. If the hole is more structural, you may be ok with the cheaper bits where tearout is not much of an issue. George "Silvan" wrote in message ... I have seen Forstner bits sell for a wide variety of prices: Lowes set sells for about $30. What should I look for? Is carbide better or is high speed steel OK? Is it hard to sharpen the non carbide bits? Like all things, you get what you pay for, and more expensive stuff is usually better. Having said that, I have the $30 set from Lowe's, and I have used most of the bits extensively. They make nice holes, and I'm glad to have them. The only one I've replaced so far is one I ruined by boring through several sheets of 60 grit sandpaper. I tried to sharpen it, and never got anywhere good. I replaced that one with a Freud bit, also from Lowe's. The one bit cost almost as much as the entire set. I must say that there is a *huge* difference in performance. It cuts about four times more easily, and is less likely to clog up. Whether you'd get even more performance by stepping up from Freud, I don't know. It probably really depends on how much cutting you plan to do with the things, in what kind of woods. I've bored probably into the hundreds of holes with my cheap $30 set, and I haven't felt the need to replace them, even after seeing the performance difference with a better quality bit. I will eventually replace them, but it's not urgent. The cheap bits work, and make nice holes, they just take much longer to cut. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ |
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Hi Fred
What is the "correct" method for sharpening Forstners particularly the saw tooth ones. I've been around wood turning for 10 years but have yet to see a decent article on the subject. My method is to drive down to the local turning supply shop and buy a new one which can become expensive. Regards graeme Fred Holder wrote in message ... Hello Ted, Probably the Lowes set is imported and of questionable quality at that price. High speed steel will be quite adequate for your purposes. I personally don't like carbide tools for woodworking. They may hold their edge forever, but they are never very sharp. You can touch up a Forstner bit with a diamond hole, it use the little paddle type for this. Fred Holder http://www.fholder.com/ In article , Ted says... I have seen Forstner bits sell for a wide variety of prices: Lowes set sells for about $30. Woodcraft has sets for about $50 up to $400. I have also seen carbide tip sets for about $130. What should I look for? Is carbide better or is high speed steel OK? Is it hard to sharpen the non carbide bits? I will be using the bits in a chuck in the tailstock of my lathe cutting into various kinds of wood. Thanks for any info, Ted |
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html Ted, I buy the mid-range: $40-$60 sets and replace them when they quit cutting well. I also have a large, 3 1/2" forstener type bit that I got from Woodcraft for <$25. This one has been resharpened once which cost less than a new bit. After you have used the bits for a while you will soon decide if there is one particular size that you use the most. In that case, I suggest you replace the cheapy with a better quality bit but don't think carbide bits will serve any advantage in wood. pJim pTed wrote: blockquote TYPE=CITEI have seen Forstner bits sell for a wide variety of prices: pLowes set sells for about $30. brWoodcraft has sets for about $50 up to $400. brI have also seen carbide tip sets for about $130. pWhat should I look for? Is carbide better or is high speed steel OK? brIs it hard to sharpen the non carbide bits? pI will be using the bits in a chuck in the tailstock of my lathe brcutting into various kinds of wood. pThanks for any info, brTed/blockquote /html |
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The best Forstner-type bits I've ever used are the HSS ones that Lee
Valley sells. Highly reccomended. rr Jim Pugh wrote: Ted, I buy the mid-range: $40-$60 sets and replace them when they quit cutting well. I also have a large, 3 1/2" forstener type bit that I got from Woodcraft for $25. This one has been resharpened once which cost less than a new bit. After you have used the bits for a while you will soon decide if there is one particular size that you use the most. In that case, I suggest you replace the cheapy with a better quality bit but don't think carbide bits will serve any advantage in wood. Jim Ted wrote: I have seen Forstner bits sell for a wide variety of prices: Lowes set sells for about $30. Woodcraft has sets for about $50 up to $400. I have also seen carbide tip sets for about $130. What should I look for? Is carbide better or is high speed steel OK? Is it hard to sharpen the non carbide bits? I will be using the bits in a chuck in the tailstock of my lathe cutting into various kinds of wood. Thanks for any info, Ted |
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I go this way too. I got some of those oversize brad point bits from
Woodcraft, I believe - Chinese manufacture. They're not class steel, but when boring deep holes they will clear for an inch or so at a time, and it's easy to resharpen the annealed metal. My attempts with forstners on the lathe have been more a case of clearing shavings every 1/4 inch or so. Neat thing is that the brad point drops naturally into the indentation from the live center. "Eduardo Sarmiento Hall" wrote in message om... (Ted) wrote in message . com... I have seen Forstner bits sell for a wide variety of prices: What should I look for? Is carbide better or is high speed steel OK? Is it hard to sharpen the non carbide bits? I will be using the bits in a chuck in the tailstock of my lathe cutting into various kinds of wood. Thanks for any info, Ted Hi Ted I also use the bits but do not get the carbide ones because to sharpen they are very difficult also if you are going to bore an end grain hole you are better with a regular bit I use a 1-1/2" machinist bit to bore the hole in my vessels if they are end grain otherwise I use forstner bits for side grain only also they last longuer ED |
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Be sure to keep the speed low enough so the bits do not burn. Forstner bits
heat up more rapidly than most other bits. Once overheated, the bit never holds an edge for very long. Barry "Ted" wrote in message om... I have seen Forstner bits sell for a wide variety of prices: Lowes set sells for about $30. Woodcraft has sets for about $50 up to $400. I have also seen carbide tip sets for about $130. What should I look for? Is carbide better or is high speed steel OK? Is it hard to sharpen the non carbide bits? I will be using the bits in a chuck in the tailstock of my lathe cutting into various kinds of wood. Thanks for any info, Ted |
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Even better than Forstner bits for lathe boring are the Selfeed bits
made be Milwaukee. They bore faster, clear the chips better and tend not to get as hot. You can also "drill" with them at a higher speed. Shanks are hexagonal and won't slip in a drill chuck or extension. Ted wrote: I have seen Forstner bits sell for a wide variety of prices: Lowes set sells for about $30. Woodcraft has sets for about $50 up to $400. I have also seen carbide tip sets for about $130. What should I look for? Is carbide better or is high speed steel OK? Is it hard to sharpen the non carbide bits? I will be using the bits in a chuck in the tailstock of my lathe cutting into various kinds of wood. Thanks for any info, Ted |
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