Bowl gouge angle
What sharpening angle do you use for bowl gouges. I have always used
35 degrees. I tried 30 but they seem to dull just as quick and went back to 35. I sharpen on a belt sander so it is a flat bottom. -- Gerald Ross Cochran, GA I think I lost my mind. Please watch where you step. |
Bowl gouge angle
Hello Gerald,
I believe that the normal bevel for bowl gouges should be 40 to 45 degrees; however, that grind will not allow you to cut all of the way to the bottom of the bowl. You will need a second gouge with a 60 to 80 degree grind to finish turning to the bottom of the inside of the bowl. Several years ago, I adopted the Ellsworth grind, which produces a 60 degree nose bevel and swept back wings that can be used for shear scraping. I find that it works very well on both the outside and the inside of a bowl. It is best to have an Ellsworth Grinding jig to make this grind. I purchased mine several years ago from Woodcraft. I believe that Packard Woodworks also carries them. I don't know how it would work on a belt sander, but it should work just fine. Fred Holder http://www.morewoodturning.net On May 2, 6:57 am, Gerald Ross wrote: What sharpening angle do you use for bowl gouges. I have always used 35 degrees. I tried 30 but they seem to dull just as quick and went back to 35. I sharpen on a belt sander so it is a flat bottom. -- Gerald Ross Cochran, GA I think I lost my mind. Please watch where you step. |
Bowl gouge angle
"Gerald Ross" wrote: (clip) I tried 30 but they seem to dull just as quick and went back to 35. (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If I understand your measurements, a 30 degree angle is thinner than a 35. Generally, a thinner edge is *sharper,* but more delicate--so initially it will cut better, but dull more quickly. |
Bowl gouge angle
I have some "fingernail" skews that are 60+ years old.
Long and shallow - shaving / cutting edges. But modern ones are far blunter for heaver cutting. Martin Leo Lichtman wrote: "Gerald Ross" wrote: (clip) I tried 30 but they seem to dull just as quick and went back to 35. (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If I understand your measurements, a 30 degree angle is thinner than a 35. Generally, a thinner edge is *sharper,* but more delicate--so initially it will cut better, but dull more quickly. |
Bowl gouge angle
On Sun, 02 May 2010 09:57:32 -0400, Gerald Ross wrote:
What sharpening angle do you use for bowl gouges. I have always used 35 degrees. I tried 30 but they seem to dull just as quick and went back to 35. I sharpen on a belt sander so it is a flat bottom. Depends on the angle of the bowl walls and relationship to the bottom.. Quote from Steve Russell: "If you're turning a standard half-round bowl, a 45-degree front bevel angle may work well. However, that same 45-degree bevel won't work with a deep tulip style bowl, which may need a 60, or even a 65-degree front bevel to maintain bevel contact throughout the cut." I'm not that extreme, but I do use gouges of different bevels on different types of bowls.. Not that I can maintain a bevel from rim to bottom-center.. lol mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
Bowl gouge angle
Gerald Ross wrote:
What sharpening angle do you use for bowl gouges. I have always used 35 degrees. I tried 30 but they seem to dull just as quick and went back to 35. I sharpen on a belt sander so it is a flat bottom. Sorry about the trick question folks. I should clarify that I use a side-cutting grind. Also that 30 should have been a 40. I just wanted to know what angle you experts are using. Even Leonard Lee ducks the question for side-cutting bowl gouges. He gives the traditional angle for straight across bowl gouges. Thanks, Mac. At least you answered the question--"various". Guess I should break down and buy a book on turning, but even then that is only one opinion per book. -- Gerald Ross Cochran, GA Why are there flotation devices under plane seats instead of parachutes? |
Bowl gouge angle
"Gerald Ross" wrote: Why are there flotation devices under plane seats instead of parachutes? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Because parachutes don't float worth a damn. |
Bowl gouge angle
On Mon, 3 May 2010 7:50:25 -0500, Gerald Ross wrote
(in message ): Gerald Ross wrote: What sharpening angle do you use for bowl gouges. I have always used 35 degrees. I tried 30 but they seem to dull just as quick and went back to 35. I sharpen on a belt sander so it is a flat bottom. Sorry about the trick question folks. I should clarify that I use a side-cutting grind. Also that 30 should have been a 40. I just wanted to know what angle you experts are using. Even Leonard Lee ducks the question for side-cutting bowl gouges. He gives the traditional angle for straight across bowl gouges. Thanks, Mac. At least you answered the question--"various". Guess I should break down and buy a book on turning, but even then that is only one opinion per book. In the final analysis, you will experiment and observe, and decide on a setup that suits your style and temperament. You may even decide on a combination of tools, like maybe a hook for quick removal of lots of wood, and then various gouges and scrapers for the finish work. Yes, some turners might use just one gouge for every stage of a bowl from roughing to finish but not all of them do. You're you. It ain't rocket surgery. tom koehler -- I will find a way or make one. |
Bowl gouge angle
On Mon, 03 May 2010 08:50:25 -0400, Gerald Ross wrote:
That's why I use cheap bowl gouges, Gerald.. So I can have 3 at a time on the rack with different grinds.. "Normal", "Side Grind / Swept wing" , "Almost sharpened the handle", etc... Gerald Ross wrote: What sharpening angle do you use for bowl gouges. I have always used 35 degrees. I tried 30 but they seem to dull just as quick and went back to 35. I sharpen on a belt sander so it is a flat bottom. Sorry about the trick question folks. I should clarify that I use a side-cutting grind. Also that 30 should have been a 40. I just wanted to know what angle you experts are using. Even Leonard Lee ducks the question for side-cutting bowl gouges. He gives the traditional angle for straight across bowl gouges. Thanks, Mac. At least you answered the question--"various". Guess I should break down and buy a book on turning, but even then that is only one opinion per book. mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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