As a few of you here know, I am no turner. But I find myself standing
around the lathe more these days doing something besides pens. I always
thought I would be more creative If I could take the tail stock out of part
of the process. I posted a couple of my latest creations on a.b.p.w. If
you want to see a beginners first try's and maybe point out something I
could have done better, Please dooooo.

On Apr 17, 5:25*pm, "Leon" wrote:
As a few of you here know, *I am no turner. *But I find myself standing
around the lathe more these days doing something besides pens. *I always
thought I would be more creative If I could take the tail stock out of part
of the process. *I posted a couple of my latest creations on a.b.p.w. *If
you want to see a beginners first try's and maybe point out something I
could have done better, Please dooooo.

The lathe is an awfully nice diversion, no?

Leon I think the reason you haven't any comments here is that you
posted your pics to abpw. Most folks don't get that anymore. Many
didn't know how to find it when they had it.

I know you have DSL, and I do too. However, my DSL server won't allow
me access to any binaries groups.

With that in mind I'll bet if you post to a free image hosting site
you will get a lot of hits and comments.

That being said, there are work arounds. I like both pieces you
turned. Keeping in mind that turning is VERY subjective, I think over
a period of time you will find yourself turning thinner, more refined
shapes.

The walls of your pieces will get thinner, and as in the shape of your
fluted goblet, the lines will become more flowing. I think they
looked great and liked the fact you tackled a box right off.

But....

What was that crack about "just getting the skew" in the text?

=^0 !!!

I have been trying to "get the skew" for years. I have good days and
bad days. On good days, I feel like I am mastering the art of
turning... on bad days it corkscrews across the piece scaring the crap
out of me. I am not sure, but the large skew I have may have taken as
much as 18 months off my life....

I swapped out bowl gouge sharpening lessons to our club "skewmaster"
and did great while he was there, and probably for a couple of
sessions after word. I went to TTT and met a guy from Houston that
had me similarly squared away. Then a few years ago we had "open
house, bring your problem tool" and I had a guy that was a disciple of
Raffan instruct me.

I ain't getting it. My confession:

I can plane, do some simple coves if they aren't too deep.

Over a long, careful period of time I can do some beads. But no two
look alike.

I cannot rough out with the skew. I don't think I could rough out a
piece of dowel for use.

I cannot end cut a hard wood spindle to a clean cut. This is such a
disaster it is like sticking my finger in a pencil sharpener. (My
club buddy used to cut the tops of his 3" boxes at a nice angle all
the way across the end grain just so he wouldn't have to sand.)

Things I can do with a skew:

Sharpen them till they can shave hair. I finish with a diamond lap,
but do not strop.

Regrind them to remove a bit of the heel, and a bit of the tip. Still
razor sharp.

I can scare the sweet living daylights out of myself on a end grain
catch.

I can read Raffan's book and watch his videos. I can do the same with
Alan Lacer's materials. Still in the end, it is like teaching
portrait painting to a blind man.

+++++++++++++++

If you woke up one day and understood that devil's spawn, please
bottle some of your mojo and send it to me.

It is embarrassing. I have turned so many things for so long that I
don't give any of my other tools a second thought. But the skew seems
to be my nemesis.

I am thinking about making my big one into a large slick style chisel,
even though I don't need one. THAT might show the others who the boss
is! ;^)

Then again, they might gang up on me.... (those *******s.... all four
skews are probably waiting for me as we speak....).


Good work on your pieces. I hope you get a photo hosting account so
everyone can your good work.

Robert

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On Apr 17, 5:25 pm, "Leon" wrote:
As a few of you here know, I am no turner. But I find myself standing
around the lathe more these days doing something besides pens. I always
thought I would be more creative If I could take the tail stock out of
part
of the process. I posted a couple of my latest creations on a.b.p.w. If
you want to see a beginners first try's and maybe point out something I
could have done better, Please dooooo.

The lathe is an awfully nice diversion, no?

Yes..

Leon I think the reason you haven't any comments here is that you
posted your pics to abpw. Most folks don't get that anymore. Many
didn't know how to find it when they had it.

I know you have DSL, and I do too. However, my DSL server won't allow
me access to any binaries groups.


Nor would mine however I suscribed to Giganews and the allows me to get
all news groups, I think. Any way I subscribe to the cheapes version, 3GB
for $2.99 per month, I can afford that. Ha!



With that in mind I'll bet if you post to a free image hosting site
you will get a lot of hits and comments.

I have tried a couple of them but they end up going belly up and I have
to resuscribe and start over.


That being said, there are work arounds. I like both pieces you
turned. Keeping in mind that turning is VERY subjective, I think over
a period of time you will find yourself turning thinner, more refined
shapes.

I was just tickled that both wer my forst attempts and nothing went horribly
wrong.



The walls of your pieces will get thinner, and as in the shape of your
fluted goblet, the lines will become more flowing. I think they
looked great and liked the fact you tackled a box right off.

I was afraid to tahe the first too far, thinking the whole time, I can do
it.


But....

What was that crack about "just getting the skew" in the text?

=^0 !!!

I have been trying to "get the skew" for years. I have good days and
bad days. On good days, I feel like I am mastering the art of
turning... on bad days it corkscrews across the piece scaring the crap
out of me. I am not sure, but the large skew I have may have taken as
much as 18 months off my life....

I was doing that but I am sure there is much much more to learn, I did
learn that if I can keep the point out of the opposite side of the cut
things go much more smoothly.


I swapped out bowl gouge sharpening lessons to our club "skewmaster"
and did great while he was there, and probably for a couple of
sessions after word. I went to TTT and met a guy from Houston that
had me similarly squared away. Then a few years ago we had "open
house, bring your problem tool" and I had a guy that was a disciple of
Raffan instruct me.

I ain't getting it. My confession:

I can plane, do some simple coves if they aren't too deep.

Over a long, careful period of time I can do some beads. But no two
look alike.

I cannot rough out with the skew. I don't think I could rough out a
piece of dowel for use.

Yeah I have not tried any of that yet, the Henry Taylor rough in gouge is my
friend. LOL




I cannot end cut a hard wood spindle to a clean cut. This is such a
disaster it is like sticking my finger in a pencil sharpener. (My
club buddy used to cut the tops of his 3" boxes at a nice angle all
the way across the end grain just so he wouldn't have to sand.)

I almost did that on the box lid.




Things I can do with a skew:

Sharpen them till they can shave hair. I finish with a diamond lap,
but do not strop.

Tormek!


Regrind them to remove a bit of the heel, and a bit of the tip. Still
razor sharp.

I have heard of doing that.



I can scare the sweet living daylights out of myself on a end grain
catch.

When that happened I would turn the lathe off, look at the skew to see if
any part if it was broken off and then observe the wicked gouge in my piece.



I can read Raffan's book and watch his videos. I can do the same with
Alan Lacer's materials. Still in the end, it is like teaching
portrait painting to a blind man.


I have his DVD on order, 3 IIRC.

+++++++++++++++

If you woke up one day and understood that devil's spawn, please
bottle some of your mojo and send it to me.

It is embarrassing. I have turned so many things for so long that I
don't give any of my other tools a second thought. But the skew seems
to be my nemesis.

I am sure I have plenty of mistakes to be uncovered, so far I only know to
use it to smoothe the surface and or create beads.



I am thinking about making my big one into a large slick style chisel,
even though I don't need one. THAT might show the others who the boss
is! ;^)

Then again, they might gang up on me.... (those *******s.... all four
skews are probably waiting for me as we speak....).


Good work on your pieces. I hope you get a photo hosting account so
everyone can your good work.

We'll See LOL

wrote:

Leon I think the reason you haven't any comments here is that you
posted your pics to abpw. Most folks don't get that anymore. Many
didn't know how to find it when they had it.

I use this link when I want to see stuff on ABPW:

http://www.delorie.com/wood/abpw/

He posts the pictures so anyone can see whats up.

--
Jack
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http://jbstein.com

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:25:44 -0500, "Leon"
wrote:

As a few of you here know, I am no turner. But I find myself standing
around the lathe more these days doing something besides pens. I always
thought I would be more creative If I could take the tail stock out of part
of the process. I posted a couple of my latest creations on a.b.p.w. If
you want to see a beginners first try's and maybe point out something I
could have done better, Please dooooo.

Not bad. Leon...

Are you using scrapers yet, or just gouge and skew?


mac

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"mac davis" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:25:44 -0500, "Leon"
wrote:

As a few of you here know, I am no turner. But I find myself standing
around the lathe more these days doing something besides pens. I always
thought I would be more creative If I could take the tail stock out of
part
of the process. I posted a couple of my latest creations on a.b.p.w. If
you want to see a beginners first try's and maybe point out something I
could have done better, Please dooooo.

Not bad. Leon...

Are you using scrapers yet, or just gouge and skew?


I have'em but don't really use them yet, well uh actually I think I might
have used one under the top of the goblet.

thanks Mac

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:10:54 -0500, "Leon"
wrote:


Are you using scrapers yet, or just gouge and skew?


I have'em but don't really use them yet, well uh actually I think I might
have used one under the top of the goblet.

thanks Mac

Scrapers are very cool, once you learn to put a burr on them and get some
practice..
I use several types of skews, but for goblets, I reach for the scrapers to
finish the inside of the bowl and to shape the "transitions" between the bowl,
stem and base..
For me, the most difficult part of goblets, wine classes, etc. is where the bowl
meets the stem..
Bead? No bead? convex? Concave?

Rounded bowl bottom? (wine glass?)
More of a "pointy" bottom?

Lots of choices and not all of them work.. DAMHIKT


mac

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