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Name that cut! A long musing about our eponyms
Eponyms have been around since antiquity, they abound today and for
better or worse are here to stay. Named diseases alone number in thousands. The word has many meanings and relates to many subjects, but I'm musing about the eponyms we use in woodturning as something titled by a person's name. As with our acronyms, the same eponyms often title several different things and also different eponyms often title the same thing. Ex: "Liam O'Neil Grind", "Ellsworth Grind" for an extended or swept back or side ground gouge. "Oland Tool" for an inserted bit tool used not only for hollowing but also for spindle and face turning. I suggest the eponym "Feltmate cutting Tool" when inserted bits are used in addition to hollowing. Maybe the eponym "Thovaldson Soak" would save us having to repeat the "World Famous Treatise" that so well describes it. Some of our craft's eponyms appear to confuse more than describe, others save much tedious description. Some evoke arguments re authenticity or originality of the 'eponymee' who more often than not published or publicized a tool or technique that someone else originated long ago. I reckon that as an eponym becomes universally agreed upon and used, it becomes useful, almost necessary, to describe a grind, tool, technique, attitude, philosophy etc. Until that happy day arrives, an eponym can cause trouble. What do you all think about our eponyms? Which ones are helpful. which are not? Who cares? I doubt "McBurney's Point" will join the "Raffin Cut" in our vernacular. Anyway, it's no "Hobson's Choice". BTW, you might want to try the "Arch Grind" on your best skew; the edge is blunt, nicked, ragged and blued. It lost its temper... and so will you. Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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Name that cut! A long musing about our eponyms
Names are only as good as their ability to accurately communicate your
idea to another. I could talk about the Fleming this or the Fleming that (all very excellent, mind you), but the response I would get back from most anyone is the deer in the headlights look. Many times, names are nationally know, but not internationally. Fewer and fewer people in the USA know the O'Neil grind, or who O'Neil is. The attribution has lost its meaning on me. I am preparing to give a demo about coloring to my club. I will refer to the Derry look, the Hosaluk painting, or the Andi Wolfe style because my club members have seen them. Most would gloss over a reference Michael and Liz O'Donnell because they have never seen them, though some have read their books. I suspect, more accurate descriptions would be "high gloss hand-rubbed lacquer finish", acrylic painting for color, and color with Prismacolor markers. Joe Fleming - San Diego |
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Name that cut! A long musing about our eponyms
Hi Arch
Don't know about the Thorvaldson dip but I'm sure everybody knows about the Archmusing around here ;- Have fun and You do take care You hear !! Leo Van Der Loo http://homepage.mac.com/l.vanderloo/PhotoAlbum4.html |
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Name that cut! A long musing about our eponyms
wrote: Don't know about the Thorvaldson dip (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I'm pretty sure I have seen it in worldclass dancing competitions. |
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Name that cut! A long musing about our eponyms
Joe,
Thanks for picking up once again. Any Fleming "this or that" would get respectful stares from all of us. Which makes me wonder if you could edit your coloring demo as an essay on rcw? Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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Name that cut! A long musing about our eponyms
Joe,
Don't you think the "Wade Whoops!" or the "Fleming Flub" would carry a cetain cachet? ;o) David Joe Fleming wrote: Names are only as good as their ability to accurately communicate your idea to another. I could talk about the Fleming this or the Fleming that (all very excellent, mind you), but the response I would get back from most anyone is the deer in the headlights look. Many times, names are nationally know, but not internationally. Fewer and fewer people in the USA know the O'Neil grind, or who O'Neil is. The attribution has lost its meaning on me. I am preparing to give a demo about coloring to my club. I will refer to the Derry look, the Hosaluk painting, or the Andi Wolfe style because my club members have seen them. Most would gloss over a reference Michael and Liz O'Donnell because they have never seen them, though some have read their books. I suspect, more accurate descriptions would be "high gloss hand-rubbed lacquer finish", acrylic painting for color, and color with Prismacolor markers. Joe Fleming - San Diego |
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Name that cut! A long musing about our eponyms
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:35:39 GMT, "Leo Lichtman"
wrote: wrote: Don't know about the Thorvaldson dip (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I'm pretty sure I have seen it in worldclass dancing competitions. Leo: You keep getting LDD mixed up with Leif's Sheep Dip Plus, I don't dance competitively, too boot!!*G* Leif Proud Proselytizer for: Kent Solution, Leif's Sheep Dip and Woodturners' Body Lotion |
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Name that cut! A long musing about our eponyms
Actually as I was putting some kindling into the wood stove, the term
Feltmate Flop came to mind. -- God bless and safe turning Darrell Feltmate Truro, NS Canada www.aroundthewoods.com |
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Name that cut! A long musing about our eponyms
Hi Leif
Was that "sheep" or "cheap" ?? You wouldn't dip sheep would you ??, or would you ?? Have fun and keep that back well. Leo Van Der Loo |
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Name that cut! A long musing about our eponyms
Darrell
You mean the wood did not meet the expectation, yes you have to cull those before it is to late G FLOPS NEVERRR Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo |
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Name that cut! A long musing about our eponyms
Leo
As an old friend and far better turner than I once said, "I never make mistakes, only kindling." I have some of the prettiest kindling in the town if I do say so myself." -- God bless and safe turning Darrell Feltmate Truro, NS Canada www.aroundthewoods.com |
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Name that cut! A long musing about our eponyms
I want a whoop! ...................... What's a whoop? ;-)
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Name that cut! A long musing about our eponyms
Joe,
Not a whoop, a WHOOPS! Also known as Drat, Darn, Oh Dear, and "design opportunity"' DW (Darn Whoops!) Joe Fleming wrote: I want a whoop! ...................... What's a whoop? ;-) |
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