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Finishuiing Purpleheart
Hi all:
I took your advice and purchased Mike Darlow's book on Turning Chessmen. I am trying to turn the firs set in Purpleheart. I am now trying to figure out the best way to put a finish on them. What is the best way? I have Tung Oil and Paste wax. I have Shellway Cream which I would love to try but it warns that if the wood has too much oil it can dullen the finish. One web site seems to suggest using Armorall under Lacquer. Any suggestions from this august group. Thanks in advance. Richard |
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Finishuiing Purpleheart
The problem with purpleheart is that, over time and with exposure to UV
light, it will go from purple to a dark, not-very-attractive brown. Every now and then I've heard reports of purpleheart which kept its color but I've never seen an example. Any oil, even Tung oil is going to darken it even more and I'd suggest against it. The idea of using Armorall is precipitated by the fact that it contains a UV inhibitor. I've tried it but really can't say if it works or not. I'd use a surface finish -- spray deft comes to mind. And, I think I'd try the Armorall under it. Since it is water based, though, it may raise the grain. Between purpleheart's brittleness and failure to hold color, it is my last choice of woods for just about anything except tool handles -- it makes dandy tool handles because of its density. Bill Dorothy and Richard Shelson wrote: Hi all: I took your advice and purchased Mike Darlow's book on Turning Chessmen. I am trying to turn the firs set in Purpleheart. I am now trying to figure out the best way to put a finish on them. What is the best way? I have Tung Oil and Paste wax. I have Shellway Cream which I would love to try but it warns that if the wood has too much oil it can dullen the finish. One web site seems to suggest using Armorall under Lacquer. Any suggestions from this august group. Thanks in advance. Richard |
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Finishuiing Purpleheart
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Bill Rubenstein wrote: The problem with purpleheart is that, over time and with exposure to UV light, it will go from purple to a dark, not-very-attractive brown. I guess that's in the eye of the beholder - The brown purpleheart I have got is a perfectly attractive brown, not unlike black walnut (though a lot harder to work with). The only thing "wrong" with it is that if one was really set on it being purple, well, it's not, anymore. But it's not ugly, in my opinion. It's not a particularly oily wood (hard, abrasive, brittle, but not oily), any usual finish should work. If you keep the chess set out of the sun, the purple should last longer. -- Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by |
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Finishuiing Purpleheart
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Ecnerwal wrote: I guess that's in the eye of the beholder - The brown purpleheart I have got is a perfectly attractive brown, not unlike black walnut (though a lot harder to work with). The only thing "wrong" with it is that if one was really set on it being purple, well, it's not, anymore. But it's not ugly, in my opinion. It's not a particularly oily wood (hard, abrasive, brittle, but not oily), any usual finish should work. If you keep the chess set out of the sun, the purple should last longer. My wife has a heart shaped box made from purpleheart - has had it for more than 15 years - I have some inkling some unlucky suitor may have given it to her. Anyway, it's not a Crayola purple (if it ever was) but does have a distinct purple tone to the brown. Not unattractive at all. -- Owen Lowe Northwest Woodturners Pacific Northwest Woodturning Guild ___ Tips fer Turnin': Place a sign, easily seen as you switch on your lathe, warning you to remove any and all rings from your fingers. Called degloving, extended hardware can grab your ring and rip it off your finger. A pic for the strong of stomach: www.itim.nsw.gov.au/go/objectid/2A3AC703-1321-1C29-70B067DC88E16BFC/index.cfm Besides, rings can easily mar the surface of a turning as you check for finished smoothness. |
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Finishuiing Purpleheart
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Dorothy and Richard Shelson wrote: Hi all: I took your advice and purchased Mike Darlow's book on Turning Chessmen. I am trying to turn the firs set in Purpleheart. I am now trying to figure out the best way to put a finish on them. What is the best way? I have Tung Oil and Paste wax. I have Shellway Cream which I would love to try but it warns that if the wood has too much oil it can dullen the finish. One web site seems to suggest using Armorall under Lacquer. Any suggestions from this august group. I don't use anything on Purple heart, except wax. Kept away for sunlight helps it retain it's color -- -------------------------------------------------------- Personal e-mail is the n7bsn but at amsat.org This posting address is a spam-trap and seldom read RV and Camping FAQ can be found at http://www.ralphandellen.us/rv |
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Finishuiing Purpleheart
Dorothy and Richard Shelson wrote:
Hi all: I took your advice and purchased Mike Darlow's book on Turning Chessmen. I am trying to turn the firs set in Purpleheart. I am now trying to figure out the best way to put a finish on them. What is the best way? I have Tung Oil and Paste wax. I have Shellway Cream which I would love to try but it warns that if the wood has too much oil it can dullen the finish. One web site seems to suggest using Armorall under Lacquer. Any suggestions from this august group. Thanks in advance. Richard I made a pen from purpleheart for my sister in law. Before turning, the blank was a nice shade of purple. After finishing with a couple coats of Tung Oil, then friction polish and carnauba wax, the pen turned a shade of brown. After a couple of weeks, the pen turned back to a nice shade of purple. She's been using it for a couple months now and it still is purple. Like others have said, it will turn to brown after UV exposure, so using a UV inhibitor will help delay that process. Since your chessmen probably won't be in direct sunlight much, this process will be slow, and any UV protection you apply might just prevent it. Read these for some info on purpleheart: http://www.wflooring.com/Technical_I...urpleheart.htm http://www.woodzone.com/woods/purplehe.htm -- Brad Curfman http://www.curfman.net |
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Finishuiing Purpleheart
"Brad Curfman" wrote in message .. . Like others have said, it will turn to brown after UV exposure, so using a UV inhibitor will help delay that process. Since your chessmen probably won't be in direct sunlight much, this process will be slow, and any UV protection you apply might just prevent it. I think it's time to talk to Norm about a nice purpleheart stain.... |
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Finishuiing Purpleheart
On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 06:46:27 GMT, Dorothy and Richard Shelson
wrote: I took your advice and purchased Mike Darlow's book on Turning Chessmen. I am trying to turn the firs set in Purpleheart. I am now trying to figure out the best way to put a finish on them. What is the best way? I have Tung Oil and Paste wax. I have Shellway Cream which I would love to try but it warns that if the wood has too much oil it can dullen the finish. One web site seems to suggest using Armorall under Lacquer. Any suggestions from this august group. Don't fear purpleheart. I have turned piles of it into pens, bowls, goblets, boxes and so on and if it is kept out of the sun and fluorescent lightit will maintain its purple color for years and years. I have a purpleheart bowl that I turned 5 years ago that I eat my cereal out of every day that is as purple as Welch's grape juice. My wife has a purpleheart pen that is one of the first things I ever turned that is still a beautiful shade of purple. It's a very dense wood, and pretty much any finish is suitable for it. I am currently fond of carnauba wax over sanding sealer cut with turpentine. I've used poly, danish oil, and even spar varnish. -- Chuck *#:^) chaz3913(AT)yahoo(DOT)com Anti-spam sig: please remove "NO SPAM" from e-mail address to reply. September 11, 2001 - Never Forget ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Finishuiing Purpleheart
Hello again:
Thanks for all your help. I finally decided to sand it down and use EEE polishing cream, then wipe on Armorall and finish with a Shellawax Cream Wax. Right now the only one I have done looks beautiful. Only 15 more to go in Purpleheart and then on to Maple for the rest! Richard |
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Finishuiing Purpleheart
D&R:
I too have heard the stories of purpleheart staying purple. I think every wood from South America has several different types of the species, and this probably is no exception. I have actually seen purpleheart go to a dark, brownish purple over a period of years when left outside (small piece on the burn pile). It was beautiful. OTOH, I have friends that have used it, kept it out of direct light, don't have the work directly under a lamp, and used UV resistant exterior urethane on their interior piece. It turned a beautiful dark brown, but with no character at all since the wood was without defects. So it was stunning in purple, and just pretty in brown. I think "you pays your money and takes your chances" with this wood. I know from our local exotic lumber supplier that half the time he is selling something that comes from South America he doesn't know exactly where it came from, if the wood came from the same stand, forest, or country. It is the same with all exotics, since down there these are also know as firewood to many of the indigenous people. That being said, I used laquer thinned by 1/3 and a spot of BLO in it to finish all the purpleheart beads and pendants for my niece's Christmas presents. Turned out great and finished easily. Good luck! Robert |
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