Hello from Croatia

For sale

Very fine Bog Oak(quercus robur sp.), black and extremely hard.

roundwood-logs


Volume: 70m3

Diameter: 40-110 cm

Length: 4 - 4,5 m

Reference price: on request


As a result, of C14 dating it is 5400 years dated.
(Politechnical Institute Rudjer
Boskovic,http://www.irb.hr/en/str/zef/z3labs/lna/C14/)

It was discovered in the lake in 14m deep running water.


Special care is taken to ensure it does not dry out too rapidly - it is
covered in plastic- stretch foil.


We are specialist, group of sceintist, archeologist...................

I will send to you photos and videos (from discovery adventure) on
request.


Mario

On 3 Aug 2005 04:05:10 -0700, wrote:

Hello from Croatia

For sale

Very fine Bog Oak(quercus robur sp.), black and extremely hard.

Neat, but I hate turning Oak- it always cracks on me, and it'd be a
shame to waste rare old wood like that. Try rec.woodworking

On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:58:26 -0500, Prometheus
wrote:

On 3 Aug 2005 04:05:10 -0700, wrote:

Hello from Croatia

For sale

Very fine Bog Oak(quercus robur sp.), black and extremely hard.

Neat, but I hate turning Oak- it always cracks on me, and it'd be a
shame to waste rare old wood like that. Try rec.woodworking

I have turned Swedish bog oak, c. 3400 BC and have had no problems
with it cracking. I think 5000 years soaking in a bog must be
equivalent to a week in LDD. : )



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On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 18:04:58 GMT, (Chuck)
wrote:

Neat, but I hate turning Oak- it always cracks on me, and it'd be a
shame to waste rare old wood like that. Try rec.woodworking

I have turned Swedish bog oak, c. 3400 BC and have had no problems
with it cracking. I think 5000 years soaking in a bog must be
equivalent to a week in LDD. : )

Oh come on, now- not even 5000 years of bog soaking can compare to a
week in LDD, *everyone* knows that!

This definitely sounds like an item for Ebay.
www.ebay.com
Lyndell
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Hello from Croatia

For sale

Very fine Bog Oak(quercus robur sp.), black and extremely hard.

roundwood-logs


Volume: 70m3

Diameter: 40-110 cm

Length: 4 - 4,5 m

Reference price: on request


As a result, of C14 dating it is 5400 years dated.
(Politechnical Institute Rudjer
Boskovic,http://www.irb.hr/en/str/zef/z3labs/lna/C14/)

It was discovered in the lake in 14m deep running water.


Special care is taken to ensure it does not dry out too rapidly - it is
covered in plastic- stretch foil.


We are specialist, group of sceintist, archeologist...................

I will send to you photos and videos (from discovery adventure) on
request.


Mario

Hi there

They have and still are pulling wood out of bogs and water and peat
places, all over the world, it used to be burned, probably still being
done but some of it is taken out and used for turning and sculpting
etc., apparently they use some of the bog oak in Ireland for turning,
and the wood is "more unstable than any I've ever seen" according David
Sloan in a write up in Fine Woodworking, "turned wet, in a matter of
hours it distorts severely", yet the small chunks of 30.000+ years old
Kauri My sister brought back from New Zealand for me, a couple of years
ago have not changed a hair, just depends what wood it is to start of
with I assume.

I now was wondering if there is any swamp wood taken out and used for
turning or art work etc. in North America, or do people not bother with
this kind of wood, I don't seem to remember having heard of anyone using
it here, of coarse I don't know all that is done with regards to this
kind of work, have any of you ??

Just wondering.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

Prometheus wrote:

On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 18:04:58 GMT, (Chuck)
wrote:


Neat, but I hate turning Oak- it always cracks on me, and it'd be a
shame to waste rare old wood like that. Try rec.woodworking

I have turned Swedish bog oak, c. 3400 BC and have had no problems
with it cracking. I think 5000 years soaking in a bog must be
equivalent to a week in LDD. : )


Oh come on, now- not even 5000 years of bog soaking can compare to a
week in LDD, *everyone* knows that!

The logs out of Lake Mich. are fantastic. They are old thin banding and very large.
They are very stable and are typically sawed into custom board or laminate.

Martin

Leo Van Der Loo wrote:

Hi there

They have and still are pulling wood out of bogs and water and peat
places, all over the world, it used to be burned, probably still being
done but some of it is taken out and used for turning and sculpting
etc., apparently they use some of the bog oak in Ireland for turning,
and the wood is "more unstable than any I've ever seen" according David
Sloan in a write up in Fine Woodworking, "turned wet, in a matter of
hours it distorts severely", yet the small chunks of 30.000+ years old
Kauri My sister brought back from New Zealand for me, a couple of years
ago have not changed a hair, just depends what wood it is to start of
with I assume.

I now was wondering if there is any swamp wood taken out and used for
turning or art work etc. in North America, or do people not bother with
this kind of wood, I don't seem to remember having heard of anyone using
it here, of coarse I don't know all that is done with regards to this
kind of work, have any of you ??

Just wondering.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

Prometheus wrote:

On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 18:04:58 GMT, (Chuck)
wrote:


Neat, but I hate turning Oak- it always cracks on me, and it'd be a
shame to waste rare old wood like that. Try rec.woodworking


I have turned Swedish bog oak, c. 3400 BC and have had no problems
with it cracking. I think 5000 years soaking in a bog must be
equivalent to a week in LDD. : )



Oh come on, now- not even 5000 years of bog soaking can compare to a
week in LDD, *everyone* knows that!





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Hi Martin

Yes I knew about that one, I was more referring to the wood out of bogs
and swamps, there's got to be wood in them, then again it might be only
soft wood, like tamarack.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
The logs out of Lake Mich. are fantastic. They are old thin banding
and very large.
They are very stable and are typically sawed into custom board or laminate.

Martin

Leo Van Der Loo wrote:

Hi there

They have and still are pulling wood out of bogs and water and peat
places, all over the world, it used to be burned, probably still being
done but some of it is taken out and used for turning and sculpting
etc., apparently they use some of the bog oak in Ireland for turning,
and the wood is "more unstable than any I've ever seen" according
David Sloan in a write up in Fine Woodworking, "turned wet, in a
matter of hours it distorts severely", yet the small chunks of
30.000+ years old Kauri My sister brought back from New Zealand for
me, a couple of years ago have not changed a hair, just depends what
wood it is to start of with I assume.

I now was wondering if there is any swamp wood taken out and used for
turning or art work etc. in North America, or do people not bother
with this kind of wood, I don't seem to remember having heard of
anyone using it here, of coarse I don't know all that is done with
regards to this kind of work, have any of you ??

Just wondering.

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

Prometheus wrote:

On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 18:04:58 GMT, (Chuck)
wrote:


Neat, but I hate turning Oak- it always cracks on me, and it'd be a
shame to waste rare old wood like that. Try rec.woodworking



I have turned Swedish bog oak, c. 3400 BC and have had no problems
with it cracking. I think 5000 years soaking in a bog must be
equivalent to a week in LDD. : )




Oh come on, now- not even 5000 years of bog soaking can compare to a
week in LDD, *everyone* knows that!

"Leo Van Der Loo" wrote in message
...

Yes I knew about that one, I was more referring to the wood out of bogs
and swamps, there's got to be wood in them, then again it might be only
soft wood, like tamarack.


Tamarack is a softwood, but it's certainly not soft wood. even with the
growth rate it can generate in the open.

This is not Europe, where bogs are harvested for their peat. We've had wood
until we had coal and oil. Even attempts to harvest sphagnum are loudly and
legally resisted, so what rests inside will remain there.

George wrote:

"Leo Van Der Loo" wrote in message
...

Yes I knew about that one, I was more referring to the wood out of bogs
and swamps, there's got to be wood in them, then again it might be only
soft wood, like tamarack.



Tamarack is a softwood, but it's certainly not soft wood. even with the
growth rate it can generate in the open.

This is not Europe, where bogs are harvested for their peat. We've had wood
until we had coal and oil. Even attempts to harvest sphagnum are loudly and
legally resisted, so what rests inside will remain there.


It is a pine like tree - resists wood borers
Larix laricina Tamarack Pinaceae Alaska larch - ... various larches Hackmatack Larch...
Poor turning...
Difficult to work with hand tools.
Contains silica
Poor resistance to splitting
.....
The wood explorer documentation.
Martin
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"Martin H. Eastburn" wrote in message
...
George wrote:

"Leo Van Der Loo" wrote in message
...

Yes I knew about that one, I was more referring to the wood out of bogs
and swamps, there's got to be wood in them, then again it might be only
soft wood, like tamarack.
Tamarack is a softwood, but it's certainly not soft wood. even with the
growth rate it can generate in the open.


It is a pine like tree - resists wood borers
Larix laricina Tamarack Pinaceae Alaska larch - ... various larches
Hackmatack Larch...
Poor turning...
Difficult to work with hand tools.
Contains silica
Poor resistance to splitting

Specific gravity about like cherry, and loaded with resin. It turns all
right, just doesn't have anything spectacular about it, and it makes a
sticky mess of the shop. I've also used it for spoons, but it can be quite
frustrating to discover pitch pockets in exactly the wrong places. Those
which survive are durable, and even the sapwood has good mildew resistance.

Ours is L laricina

George wrote:
"Martin H. Eastburn" wrote in message
...

George wrote:


"Leo Van Der Loo" wrote in message
...


Yes I knew about that one, I was more referring to the wood out of bogs
and swamps, there's got to be wood in them, then again it might be only
soft wood, like tamarack.

Tamarack is a softwood, but it's certainly not soft wood. even with the
growth rate it can generate in the open.



It is a pine like tree - resists wood borers
Larix laricina Tamarack Pinaceae Alaska larch - ... various larches
Hackmatack Larch...
Poor turning...
Difficult to work with hand tools.
Contains silica
Poor resistance to splitting


Specific gravity about like cherry, and loaded with resin. It turns all
right, just doesn't have anything spectacular about it, and it makes a
sticky mess of the shop. I've also used it for spoons, but it can be quite
frustrating to discover pitch pockets in exactly the wrong places. Those
which survive are durable, and even the sapwood has good mildew resistance.

Ours is L laricina


Actually everyones is L l the other names are local names or common ones.
The first is the Latin formal name.
Martin

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"Martin H. Eastburn" wrote in message
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George wrote:
are durable, and even the sapwood has good mildew resistance.

Ours is L laricina


Actually everyones is L l the other names are local names or common
ones.
The first is the Latin formal name.
Martin

Others disagree. http://131.220.103.1/conifers/pi/la/index.htm

L laricina isn't half the tree occidentalis is.

What "This definitely sounds like an item for Ebay" item ?

Give me the ebay item number, It is not from me!

Mario

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