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Best form of hireable transportation for materials pickup?
I plan to buy several types of demolition materials (or if necessary
the more expensive "reclaimed" variety). This is going to be mainly timber. It will be negotiated for over a period of time and then collected in one fell swoop over perhaps a 200 - 300 mile radius. Hiring a HGV vehicle is out of the question for self-drive, so in terms of carrying capacity and sturdiness what would be the best vehicle to hire for this purpose? If the missing factor is expected quantity, then shall we say as much as is realistically possible.:) -- Regards, Mike Halmarack Drop the EGG to email me. |
Hiring a HGV vehicle is out of the question for self-drive, so in
terms of carrying capacity and sturdiness what would be the best vehicle to hire for this purpose? A transit based pickup. Might be hard to find, so go for a ply lined LWB transit. Lutons generally have weak sides and lower payload capacity (i.e. they have the same 3500kg MAM, but are heavier than the standard van when unladen, leaving less carrying ability). Whilst 3500kg Lutons are available, you said no HGV. You need a special licence (C1 category, which you may or may not have). Remember to consider the weight of materials. It doesn't take many slates to reach a tonne, and much over that and you'll be illegal, which is a very serious offence, particularly in a commercial vehicle. If you're transporting heavy, rather than bulky materials. (i.e. you've got slates/rocks etc rather than insulation boards to shift), then the smallest 3500kg van you can find will have the greatest payload ability. That will probably be a MWB, although you might find a 3500kg SWB. Christian. |
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:21:24 -0000, "Christian McArdle"
wrote: Hiring a HGV vehicle is out of the question for self-drive, so in terms of carrying capacity and sturdiness what would be the best vehicle to hire for this purpose? A transit based pickup. Might be hard to find, so go for a ply lined LWB transit. Lutons generally have weak sides and lower payload capacity (i.e. they have the same 3500kg MAM, but are heavier than the standard van when unladen, leaving less carrying ability). Whilst 3500kg Lutons are available, you said no HGV. You need a special licence (C1 category, which you may or may not have). Remember to consider the weight of materials. It doesn't take many slates to reach a tonne, and much over that and you'll be illegal, which is a very serious offence, particularly in a commercial vehicle. If you're transporting heavy, rather than bulky materials. (i.e. you've got slates/rocks etc rather than insulation boards to shift), then the smallest 3500kg van you can find will have the greatest payload ability. That will probably be a MWB, although you might find a 3500kg SWB. Christian. Thanks a lot Christian. That didn't leave much to the imagination. I know exactly what I'm looking for now. -- Regards, Mike Halmarack Drop the EGG to email me. |
Christian McArdle wrote:
Hiring a HGV vehicle is out of the question for self-drive, so in terms of carrying capacity and sturdiness what would be the best vehicle to hire for this purpose? A transit based pickup. Might be hard to find, so go for a ply lined LWB transit. Lutons generally have weak sides and lower payload capacity (i.e. they have the same 3500kg MAM, but are heavier than the standard van when unladen, leaving less carrying ability). Whilst 3500kg Lutons are available, you said no HGV. You need a special licence (C1 category, which you may or may not have). Remember to consider the weight of materials. It doesn't take many slates to reach a tonne, and much over that and you'll be illegal, which is a very serious offence, particularly in a commercial vehicle. If you're transporting heavy, rather than bulky materials. (i.e. you've got slates/rocks etc rather than insulation boards to shift), then the smallest 3500kg van you can find will have the greatest payload ability. That will probably be a MWB, although you might find a 3500kg SWB. Christian. wot e said plus - hire a 7.5t flatbed dropside and contact a 'driver hire' type agency for a day rate for a qualified driver to drive it. quite a few multidrop drivers do *well* over a dozen drops/pickups in an average day. RT |
wot e said plus - hire a 7.5t flatbed dropside and contact a 'driver hire'
type agency for a day rate for a qualified driver to drive it. quite a few multidrop drivers do *well* over a dozen drops/pickups in an average day. Personally, I'd drive it myself. I love driving 7.5 tonners. I usually only get the chance when moving house. But then, I do have C1 on my licence. My favourite was a LWB crew cab Merc 312 box taillift with the most atrociously snatchy hissy air brakes. It had a digital braking system with two modes. Mode A: 5 mph - brake pedal allows either no braking or complete lock up. Mode B: 5 mph - brake pedal acts as a convenient foot rest. Note that all the =3500kg vans are "conventional", in that they have basically beefed up car mechanics and are not difficult to drive, if you're put off by the 7.5t mechanics, which are closer to a proper artic than the Transit. Christian. |
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:38:13 GMT, "[news]" wrote:
Christian McArdle wrote: Hiring a HGV vehicle is out of the question for self-drive, so in terms of carrying capacity and sturdiness what would be the best vehicle to hire for this purpose? A transit based pickup. Might be hard to find, so go for a ply lined LWB transit. Lutons generally have weak sides and lower payload capacity (i.e. they have the same 3500kg MAM, but are heavier than the standard van when unladen, leaving less carrying ability). Whilst 3500kg Lutons are available, you said no HGV. You need a special licence (C1 category, which you may or may not have). Remember to consider the weight of materials. It doesn't take many slates to reach a tonne, and much over that and you'll be illegal, which is a very serious offence, particularly in a commercial vehicle. If you're transporting heavy, rather than bulky materials. (i.e. you've got slates/rocks etc rather than insulation boards to shift), then the smallest 3500kg van you can find will have the greatest payload ability. That will probably be a MWB, although you might find a 3500kg SWB. Christian. wot e said plus - hire a 7.5t flatbed dropside and contact a 'driver hire' type agency for a day rate for a qualified driver to drive it. quite a few multidrop drivers do *well* over a dozen drops/pickups in an average day. RT Very good point. Might as well think as big as necessary. :) -- Regards, Mike Halmarack Drop the EGG to email me. |
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McArdle writes wot e said plus - hire a 7.5t flatbed dropside and contact a 'driver hire' type agency for a day rate for a qualified driver to drive it. quite a few multidrop drivers do *well* over a dozen drops/pickups in an average day. Personally, I'd drive it myself. I love driving 7.5 tonners. I usually only get the chance when moving house. But then, I do have C1 on my licence. My favourite was a LWB crew cab Merc 312 box taillift with the most atrociously snatchy hissy air brakes. It had a digital braking system with two modes. Mode A: 5 mph - brake pedal allows either no braking or complete lock up. Mode B: 5 mph - brake pedal acts as a convenient foot rest. Note that all the =3500kg vans are "conventional", in that they have basically beefed up car mechanics and are not difficult to drive, if you're put off by the 7.5t mechanics, which are closer to a proper artic than the Transit. You should have C1 if you passed your test before about 1995 (can't remember the exact date when it was removed from the "standard" vehicles) The problem with 7.5 tonne vehicles is you have to be careful about not overloading them, it isn't as easy to tell as with the smaller vehicles. -- Tim Mitchell |
Christian McArdle wrote:
wot e said plus - hire a 7.5t flatbed dropside and contact a 'driver hire' type agency for a day rate for a qualified driver to drive it. quite a few multidrop drivers do *well* over a dozen drops/pickups in an average day. Personally, I'd drive it myself. snip trip down memree lane :o) aye, but it's not about you, it's about the OP without the correct licence. RT |
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:37:22 GMT, "[news]" wrote:
Christian McArdle wrote: wot e said plus - hire a 7.5t flatbed dropside and contact a 'driver hire' type agency for a day rate for a qualified driver to drive it. quite a few multidrop drivers do *well* over a dozen drops/pickups in an average day. Personally, I'd drive it myself. snip trip down memree lane :o) aye, but it's not about you, it's about the OP without the correct licence. Maybe but the enthusiasm and useful info more than made up for the character shift. :) -- Regards, Mike Halmarack Drop the EGG to email me. |
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Mike Halmarack wrote: Hiring a HGV vehicle is out of the question for self-drive, so in terms of carrying capacity and sturdiness what would be the best vehicle to hire for this purpose? It depends on how long you've had your licence. There is a cut off date for driving up to IIRC 7.5 tonne vehicles without an HGV. -- *Keep honking...I'm reloading. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
In message , "[news]"
writes Christian McArdle wrote: wot e said plus - hire a 7.5t flatbed dropside and contact a 'driver hire' type agency for a day rate for a qualified driver to drive it. quite a few multidrop drivers do *well* over a dozen drops/pickups in an average day. Personally, I'd drive it myself. snip trip down memree lane :o) aye, but it's not about you, it's about the OP without the correct licence. How do you know the OP hasn't got the correct licence? It used to be standard with car licence -- Chris French, Leeds |
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:04:52 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: In article , Mike Halmarack wrote: Hiring a HGV vehicle is out of the question for self-drive, so in terms of carrying capacity and sturdiness what would be the best vehicle to hire for this purpose? It depends on how long you've had your licence. There is a cut off date for driving up to IIRC 7.5 tonne vehicles without an HGV. My licence goes way back before 1995 but I'm such a crap driver that I'll find any excuse to have someone else drive. -- Regards, Mike Halmarack Drop the EGG to email me. |
chris French wrote:
In message , "[news]" writes Christian McArdle wrote: wot e said plus - hire a 7.5t flatbed dropside and contact a 'driver hire' type agency for a day rate for a qualified driver to drive it. quite a few multidrop drivers do *well* over a dozen drops/pickups in an average day. Personally, I'd drive it myself. snip trip down memree lane :o) aye, but it's not about you, it's about the OP without the correct licence. How do you know the OP hasn't got the correct licence? It used to be standard with car licence just a guess: "Hiring a HGV vehicle is out of the question for self-drive" RT |
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In message , "[news]"
writes chris French wrote: In message , "[news]" writes Christian McArdle wrote: wot e said plus - hire a 7.5t flatbed dropside and contact a 'driver hire' type agency for a day rate for a qualified driver to drive it. quite a few multidrop drivers do *well* over a dozen drops/pickups in an average day. Personally, I'd drive it myself. snip trip down memree lane :o) aye, but it's not about you, it's about the OP without the correct licence. How do you know the OP hasn't got the correct licence? It used to be standard with car licence just a guess: "Hiring a HGV vehicle is out of the question for self-drive" The statement is vague. It could mean at least 3 things: 1. I don't have licence to drive a 7.5 Tonner 2. The OP might not realise that if you got your car licence long enough ago then you are licensed to drive them. 3. The OP doesn't want to drive one anyway, even if is allowed to. -- Chris French, Leeds |
chris French wrote:
In message , "[news]" writes chris French wrote: In message , "[news]" writes Christian McArdle wrote: wot e said plus - hire a 7.5t flatbed dropside and contact a 'driver hire' type agency for a day rate for a qualified driver to drive it. quite a few multidrop drivers do *well* over a dozen drops/pickups in an average day. Personally, I'd drive it myself. snip trip down memree lane :o) aye, but it's not about you, it's about the OP without the correct licence. How do you know the OP hasn't got the correct licence? It used to be standard with car licence just a guess: "Hiring a HGV vehicle is out of the question for self-drive" The statement is vague. no it's not. self drive is out of the question - he doesn't want to, the reason why are a matter for him and pedants like you RT |
In message , "[news]"
writes chris French wrote: In message , "[news]" writes chris French wrote: In message , "[news]" writes Christian McArdle wrote: wot e said plus - hire a 7.5t flatbed dropside and contact a 'driver hire' type agency for a day rate for a qualified driver to drive it. quite a few multidrop drivers do *well* over a dozen drops/pickups in an average day. Personally, I'd drive it myself. snip trip down memree lane :o) aye, but it's not about you, it's about the OP without the correct licence. How do you know the OP hasn't got the correct licence? It used to be standard with car licence just a guess: "Hiring a HGV vehicle is out of the question for self-drive" The statement is vague. no it's not. It was. self drive is out of the question Indeed. - he doesn't want to, correct. Which is not the same as not having licence as you said. the reason why are a matter for him and pedants like you and yourself it would seem :-) -- Chris French, Leeds |
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[news] wrote: "Hiring a HGV vehicle is out of the question for self-drive" The statement is vague. no it's not. self drive is out of the question - he doesn't want to, the reason why are a matter for him and pedants like you Being more pedantic, is a 7.5 tonner an HGV? After all, there is such a thing as an HGV licence... -- *Who are these kids and why are they calling me Mom? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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writes Many years ago (at least 12!) my dad hired a 7.5tonner from the local hire place, for me to go to Ipswich docks and pick up a load of timber for him (he runs a joinery company). I duly went up to their yard, at a local farm, and found the truck, which was a very nice Mercedes, only a year or two old. I filled in the tacho and trundled the 30 miles or so up to Ipswich, marvelling at the exhaust brake and other gadgets, and got there just as the dockers were starting their lunch. With nothing else to do for an hour, I sat in the cab and started reading through the booklets that were in the truck. I flipped through the specifications for the truck, and saw that the axles were rated something along the lines of 8t on the front, and 15t on the rear. My first thought was 'That's high for a 7.5tonner', closely followed by 'Oh s**t!' Never have I driven so smoothly and carefully as I did on the trip back... It was probably right, 7.5tonne vehicles are usually rated for much higher loads than that, just you can't drive them loaded over 7.5 tonne gross weight without HGV licence. (The Iveco vehicles are really 12 tonne). -- Tim Mitchell |
chris French wrote:
snip that's your third post in this thread, none of which are directed at the OP or offer a solution to thier question, that's trolling exemplified, well done. RT |
Being more pedantic, is a 7.5 tonner an HGV? After all, there is such a
thing as an HGV licence... I think it is technically an MGV. HGVs no longer exist. They're called LGVs now. You need category C1 (or C) to drive an MGV and C to drive an LGV. You need +E if you want to attach a large trailer, or the vehicle is articulated. Christian. |
In article , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes In article , [news] wrote: "Hiring a HGV vehicle is out of the question for self-drive" The statement is vague. no it's not. self drive is out of the question - he doesn't want to, the reason why are a matter for him and pedants like you Being more pedantic, is a 7.5 tonner an HGV? After all, there is such a thing as an HGV licence... No it isn't an HGV. They aren't called HGV any more anyway, it is LGV now. If you do not have category C1 on your licence (apparently the date this changed was 1/1/97), you need to take a LGV class C1 test to be able to drive one. The silly thing is, the test (and cost of training etc) is virtually the same as for LGV class C (which was HGV class II) which allows you to drive up to 18 tonnes. So if you are going to the bother of taking the test you may as well go for the bigger version. -- Tim Mitchell |
Thanks a lot for all the input on this. Thankfully, my question was
clear enough for me to get the answers I needed in the early stages of the thread. Sorry that my lack of *GV nouse revved up the road ragers. :) -- Regards, Mike Halmarack Drop the EGG to email me. |
In message , "[news]"
writes chris French wrote: snip that's your third post in this thread, none of which are directed at the OP or offer a solution to thier question, that's trolling exemplified, well done. It takes two to tango, would this branch of the thread be here without you help...? :-) -- Chris French, Leeds |
Mike Halmarack wrote:
wot e said plus - hire a 7.5t flatbed dropside and contact a 'driver hire' type agency for a day rate for a qualified driver to drive it. quite a few multidrop drivers do *well* over a dozen drops/pickups in an average day. Very good point. Might as well think as big as necessary. :) I had a feeling you could go upto 7.5T without needing an HGV licence... (Ford Cargo type size)? (Pretty sure a friend of mine has done it on several occations, not that this is a cast iron guarentee that you don't need a licence since that is the sort of "detail" he is apt to gloss over!) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
Mike Halmarack wrote:
aye, but it's not about you, it's about the OP without the correct licence. Maybe but the enthusiasm and useful info more than made up for the character shift. :) Just checked my one and it has C1 (over 3.5T but less than 7.5T), so I guess most of us have that as well? -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
[news] wrote:
"Hiring a HGV vehicle is out of the question for self-drive" Yes, but = 7.5T is not HGV -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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