My next door neighbour in a row of Edwardian terraced houses has begun
a loft conversion. I can see RSJs being hauled up. He has planning for
a dormer window and 3 roof lights (conservation area). No party wall
notice. What chance he can do a loft conversion without putting an RSJ
into the party wall?

Peter

Peter Guest wrote:
My next door neighbour in a row of Edwardian terraced houses has begun
a loft conversion. I can see RSJs being hauled up. He has planning for
a dormer window and 3 roof lights (conservation area). No party wall
notice. What chance he can do a loft conversion without putting an RSJ
into the party wall?

He /might/ be putting the RSJs in parallel with the existing beams,
front-to-back, then doing crosswise joists for flooring, but it's unlikely.

The roof conversion where the developer didn't get party wall consent,
flooded the downstairs flat into uninhabitableness, and had to pay the
downstairs neighbours ££££ for permission to dig trial pits to get load
on the foundations past the BCO was one of the best episodes of Property
Ladder.

Owain

Peter Guest wrote:

My next door neighbour in a row of Edwardian terraced houses has begun
a loft conversion. I can see RSJs being hauled up. He has planning for
a dormer window and 3 roof lights (conservation area). No party wall
notice. What chance he can do a loft conversion without putting an RSJ
into the party wall?

Depends on which way the joists need to run, and what he has in the way
of supporting walls to perch them on.

Can't see that even if he did need to fix to the party wall it is going
to be much of an issue, a few heavy joist hangers and some rawl bolts.
Not exactly in the same league as putting up shelves on it, but
certainly closer to that than a "knocking out a chimney" class job.

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Cheers,

John.

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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:23:16 +0000, John Rumm
wrotf:

Peter Guest wrote:

My next door neighbour in a row of Edwardian terraced houses has begun
a loft conversion. I can see RSJs being hauled up. He has planning for
a dormer window and 3 roof lights (conservation area). No party wall
notice. What chance he can do a loft conversion without putting an RSJ
into the party wall?

Depends on which way the joists need to run, and what he has in the way
of supporting walls to perch them on.

Can't see that even if he did need to fix to the party wall it is going
to be much of an issue, a few heavy joist hangers and some rawl bolts.
Not exactly in the same league as putting up shelves on it, but
certainly closer to that than a "knocking out a chimney" class job.

Would his joists be the same as mine? Sorry if that's a stupid
question, but this all means nothing to me!

Peter Guest wrote:

Would his joists be the same as mine? Sorry if that's a stupid
question, but this all means nothing to me!

Pretty likely I would have thought if you are part of the same terrace.

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Cheers,

John.

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"Peter Guest" wrote in message
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My next door neighbour in a row of Edwardian terraced houses has begun
a loft conversion. I can see RSJs being hauled up. He has planning for
a dormer window and 3 roof lights (conservation area). No party wall
notice. What chance he can do a loft conversion without putting an RSJ
into the party wall?

Peter
Our conversion (don by Econoloft) a while ago was done "the wrong way
round". They put a single steel front to back (the direction that is "tucked
into the eaves" on our deteched house) and then wood joists out both ways to
the end (gable) walls and new floor joists parallel to the steel. So, no
steels whacked into the walls - it just rests on top of the front and back
walls (on steel spreader plates).

The main problem is that the whole steel has to fit UNDER the new floor, so
the height of the new floor is about 400mm above the first floor ceiling.
Makes for a much reduced usable area up above, as the height of the new
floor should have been about 250-260mm above the existing ceiling if they
had stuck to the agreed plans.

Anyway the point is, as others have pointed out, you can run the steel or
steels either way.

Regards,
Simon.