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Ian Waddell June 20th 04 11:10 AM

New switch wiring
 
I'm trying to fit a new light switch (2-way, controlling 2 lights). There
are 2x common 2x L1 and 2x L2 connectors on the new switch.

I wired it yesterday and wired it identically to the old switch (which had
the same connector labellings). However, the downstairs light now comes on
when the switch is in the "OFF" position, and turns off when it's in the
"ON" position - and no the switch isn't upside down.

What can I do to remedy this?

TIA

Ian



...Jerry... June 20th 04 11:36 AM

New switch wiring
 

"Ian Waddell" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to fit a new light switch (2-way, controlling 2 lights). There
are 2x common 2x L1 and 2x L2 connectors on the new switch.

I wired it yesterday and wired it identically to the old switch (which had
the same connector labellings). However, the downstairs light now comes

on
when the switch is in the "OFF" position, and turns off when it's in the
"ON" position - and no the switch isn't upside down.

What can I do to remedy this?


Two way switches don't have 'On' or 'Off' positions, both positions can be
on or off depending on the other switch.

This sounds like a troll...



troubleinstore June 20th 04 01:45 PM

New switch wiring
 

"Ian Waddell" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to fit a new light switch (2-way, controlling 2 lights). There
are 2x common 2x L1 and 2x L2 connectors on the new switch.

I wired it yesterday and wired it identically to the old switch (which had
the same connector labellings). However, the downstairs light now comes

on
when the switch is in the "OFF" position, and turns off when it's in the
"ON" position - and no the switch isn't upside down.

What can I do to remedy this?

TIA

Ian


Swap the the cables on L1 & L2 around. that should fix it.

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Owain June 20th 04 02:04 PM

New switch wiring
 
"Ian Waddell" wrote
| I'm trying to fit a new light switch (2-way, controlling 2 lights). There
| are 2x common 2x L1 and 2x L2 connectors on the new switch.
| I wired it yesterday and wired it identically to the old switch (which had
| the same connector labellings). However, the downstairs light now comes
on
| when the switch is in the "OFF" position, and turns off when it's in the
| "ON" position - and no the switch isn't upside down.
| What can I do to remedy this?

Operate the *other* switch controlling that light once.

Owain



...Jerry... June 20th 04 02:08 PM

New switch wiring
 

"troubleinstore" wrote in message
...

"Ian Waddell" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to fit a new light switch (2-way, controlling 2 lights).

There
are 2x common 2x L1 and 2x L2 connectors on the new switch.

I wired it yesterday and wired it identically to the old switch (which

had
the same connector labellings). However, the downstairs light now comes

on
when the switch is in the "OFF" position, and turns off when it's in the
"ON" position - and no the switch isn't upside down.

What can I do to remedy this?

Swap the the cables on L1 & L2 around. that should fix it.


Until someone uses the other switch!....



Lurch June 20th 04 02:10 PM

New switch wiring
 
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:36:54 +0100, "...Jerry..."
strung together this:

I'm trying to fit a new light switch (2-way, controlling 2 lights). There
are 2x common 2x L1 and 2x L2 connectors on the new switch.

I wired it yesterday and wired it identically to the old switch (which had
the same connector labellings). However, the downstairs light now comes
on
when the switch is in the "OFF" position, and turns off when it's in the
"ON" position - and no the switch isn't upside down.

What can I do to remedy this?


Two way switches don't have 'On' or 'Off' positions, both positions can be
on or off depending on the other switch.


I used to work for a bloke that wanted all 2 way switches to be off
when in the up position, PITA really so I never bothered.

This sounds like a troll...


If it's not a troll then swap the L1 and L2 wires over at one of the
switches.
--

SJW
A.C.S. Ltd

Ian Waddell June 20th 04 02:12 PM

New switch wiring
 
Sorry,

It's a double switch, the left switch controls a downstairs light (one
way) - the right switch controls the upstairs light in conjunction with the
upstairs switch (two way).

I have L1, L2 and common connected on the right switch and just L2 and
common on the left switch - does this change any of the advice given?

TIA

Ian
"...Jerry..." wrote in message
...

"Ian Waddell" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to fit a new light switch (2-way, controlling 2 lights).

There
are 2x common 2x L1 and 2x L2 connectors on the new switch.

I wired it yesterday and wired it identically to the old switch (which

had
the same connector labellings). However, the downstairs light now comes

on
when the switch is in the "OFF" position, and turns off when it's in the
"ON" position - and no the switch isn't upside down.

What can I do to remedy this?


Two way switches don't have 'On' or 'Off' positions, both positions can be
on or off depending on the other switch.

This sounds like a troll...





RichardS June 20th 04 02:51 PM

New switch wiring
 

"Ian Waddell" wrote in message
...
Sorry,

It's a double switch, the left switch controls a downstairs light (one
way) - the right switch controls the upstairs light in conjunction with

the
upstairs switch (two way).

I have L1, L2 and common connected on the right switch and just L2 and
common on the left switch - does this change any of the advice given?

TIA


You're a bit stuck with the left switch - the only thing you can do is turn
the entire faceplate upside down.

As Jerry says...


Two way switches don't have 'On' or 'Off' positions, both positions can

be
on or off depending on the other switch.


.... so there isn't anything that you can do about that one, I'm afraid.
It's just the nature of the circuit.

--
Richard Sampson

email me at
richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk



...Jerry... June 20th 04 03:10 PM

New switch wiring
 

"RichardS" noaccess@invalid wrote in message
. ..

"Ian Waddell" wrote in message
...
Sorry,

It's a double switch, the left switch controls a downstairs light (one
way) - the right switch controls the upstairs light in conjunction with

the
upstairs switch (two way).

I have L1, L2 and common connected on the right switch and just L2 and
common on the left switch - does this change any of the advice given?


You're a bit stuck with the left switch - the only thing you can do is

turn
the entire faceplate upside down.

snip

No he is not, swap the L2 for L1 on the switch being used as a one way.

BTW, to the OP, please don't top post, it makes following the thread
difficult.



RichardS June 20th 04 04:13 PM

New switch wiring
 
"...Jerry..." wrote in message
...

"RichardS" noaccess@invalid wrote in message
. ..

"Ian Waddell" wrote in message
...
Sorry,

It's a double switch, the left switch controls a downstairs light (one
way) - the right switch controls the upstairs light in conjunction

with
the
upstairs switch (two way).

I have L1, L2 and common connected on the right switch and just L2 and
common on the left switch - does this change any of the advice given?


You're a bit stuck with the left switch - the only thing you can do is

turn
the entire faceplate upside down.

snip

No he is not, swap the L2 for L1 on the switch being used as a one way.


but unless I misread the reply, there is only a L2 and common for the left
switch. (bit odd really, why don't they lable it L1 then?!!!)


BTW, to the OP, please don't top post, it makes following the thread
difficult.




--
Richard Sampson

email me at
richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk



...Jerry... June 20th 04 04:54 PM

New switch wiring
 

"RichardS" noaccess@invalid wrote in message
. ..
snip

but unless I misread the reply, there is only a L2 and common for the left
switch. (bit odd really, why don't they lable it L1 then?!!!)


I think you miss read it, both switches on the face plate are two way, one
being used as a two way and the other is being used as a one way, it is this
latter switch that has caused the problem.



ARWadsworth June 20th 04 06:27 PM

New switch wiring
 

"...Jerry..." wrote in message
...

"RichardS" noaccess@invalid wrote in message
. ..
snip

but unless I misread the reply, there is only a L2 and common for the

left
switch. (bit odd really, why don't they lable it L1 then?!!!)


I think you miss read it, both switches on the face plate are two way, one
being used as a two way and the other is being used as a one way, it is

this
latter switch that has caused the problem.



As simple as swapping L1 for L2 on the left switch. And the OP may have
wired up the new switch identically to the old switch. Some switches have
for some annoying reason the words use L2 for one way operation.

Adam



Dave Stanton June 20th 04 07:16 PM

New switch wiring
 

I used to work for a bloke that wanted all 2 way switches to be off
when in the up position, PITA really so I never bothered.


he was or the switches ? g

Dave

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Lurch June 20th 04 07:49 PM

New switch wiring
 
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:16:00 +0100, Dave Stanton
strung together this:

I used to work for a bloke that wanted all 2 way switches to be off
when in the up position, PITA really so I never bothered.


he was or the switches ? g

Both, that was just one example of his PITAness! It was only
subcontract so I moved on shortly after.
--

SJW
A.C.S. Ltd

OldScrawn June 20th 04 09:25 PM

New switch wiring
 
Operate the *other* switch controlling that light once.


I *think* it was a troll. If not, I have a solution involing relays; but this
margin is not wide enough to accommodate it.... :-)

RichardS June 21st 04 08:32 AM

New switch wiring
 
"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
...

"...Jerry..." wrote in message
...

"RichardS" noaccess@invalid wrote in message
. ..
snip

but unless I misread the reply, there is only a L2 and common for the

left
switch. (bit odd really, why don't they lable it L1 then?!!!)


I think you miss read it, both switches on the face plate are two way,

one
being used as a two way and the other is being used as a one way, it is

this
latter switch that has caused the problem.



As simple as swapping L1 for L2 on the left switch. And the OP may have
wired up the new switch identically to the old switch. Some switches have
for some annoying reason the words use L2 for one way operation.

Adam



ah, just re-read the OP's reply post.

Of course I had read it that there were L1 and L2 terminals on one of the
switches, and only L2 on the other - i.e. a 1 way and a 2 way in one
faceplate (admittedly not like any switch that I've ever come across, but I
wasn't making assumptions....)

re-reading, it appears that he's referring to the connections as they exist
rather than available terminals, in which case I agree with all above, and
changing the one-way switch position is therefore the trivial job of
changing the connection from L2 to L1.


--
Richard Sampson

email me at
richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk




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