I have had a 'discussion' with my Father In Law tonight about decorating. I
say if wallpapering then gloss first then paper but if emulsioning then
paint first then gloss. He disagrees and says ALWAYS gloss first. My
thoughts are, if papering then the paper will cover any gloss on the walls
but if emulsioning then the emulsion will not stick to any gloss on the
wall, if you get my drift. Any opinions please?

Cheers

John

"John" wrote in message
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I have had a 'discussion' with my Father In Law tonight about decorating.
I say if wallpapering then gloss first then paper but if emulsioning then
paint first then gloss. He disagrees and says ALWAYS gloss first. My
thoughts are, if papering then the paper will cover any gloss on the walls
but if emulsioning then the emulsion will not stick to any gloss on the
wall, if you get my drift. Any opinions please?

Surely an important part of doing it yourself is being able to do it your
own way?
(Assuming it works, of course!:O)
Cheers
Gilbert

I'd agree with your F-I-L. I always prefer to gloss first. Then if the emulsion
overruns the skirting board etc I can wipe it off with kitchen towel etc. Other
way round and you're stuffed! I can't see any reason for problems with emulsion
sticking to gloss, and never noticed any.

Peter

In article , John wrote:
I have had a 'discussion' with my Father In Law tonight about decorating. I
say if wallpapering then gloss first then paper but if emulsioning then
paint first then gloss. He disagrees and says ALWAYS gloss first. My
thoughts are, if papering then the paper will cover any gloss on the walls
but if emulsioning then the emulsion will not stick to any gloss on the
wall, if you get my drift. Any opinions please?

Cheers

John

"John" wrote in message
...
I have had a 'discussion' with my Father In Law tonight about decorating.
I
say if wallpapering then gloss first then paper but if emulsioning then
paint first then gloss. He disagrees and says ALWAYS gloss first. My
thoughts are, if papering then the paper will cover any gloss on the walls
but if emulsioning then the emulsion will not stick to any gloss on the
wall, if you get my drift. Any opinions please?

Cheers

John

I have always done it your way -- much easier to make a better job by
'cutting in' with the gloss.

I have had a 'discussion' with my Father In Law tonight about decorating.
I
say if wallpapering then gloss first then paper but if emulsioning then
paint first then gloss. He disagrees and says ALWAYS gloss first. My
thoughts are, if papering then the paper will cover any gloss on the walls
but if emulsioning then the emulsion will not stick to any gloss on the
wall, if you get my drift. Any opinions please?

Personally I always gloss last - not for any other reason than I consider it
as the 'finishing touch' to a room. Most decorators I've seen seem to gloss
last too. I can see the logic behind glossing then wallpapering, however
there's still the risk that your glosswork will end up covered in glue,
scratched by knives, scissors etc.

IF you make a mistake whilst glossing, then you can always touch up with a
spot of emulsion once the gloss has dried. I see no particular sense in
emulsioning last though since invariably your glosswork will end up covered
in splashes from rollering.


....and that's another thing - roller vs paint pad? I say roller.

Andy

but if emulsioning then the emulsion will not stick to any gloss on the
wall, if you get my drift. Any opinions please?

Definitely gloss first. Your way doesn't overcome the problem anyway. If you
accidentally gloss the wall after painting the emulsion, you'll still have
to overpaint it again.

However, painting emulsion over the gloss is a non-issue, so you save
yourself the need to switch paint back again to repair any overpainting.

Christian.

In article , "John"
says...
I have had a 'discussion' with my Father In Law tonight about decorating. I
say if wallpapering then gloss first then paper but if emulsioning then
paint first then gloss. He disagrees and says ALWAYS gloss first. My
thoughts are, if papering then the paper will cover any gloss on the walls
but if emulsioning then the emulsion will not stick to any gloss on the
wall, if you get my drift. Any opinions please?

I always do gloss first - it's easier to cut in from the wall than it
is from the skirting/architrave, and it's easier to wipe splashes of
emulsion from gloss than vice versa.

Gloss last. Accurate cutting in is easier with gloss. As for paint pad
vs roller. Always paint pad. They give a much nicer finish, aren't any
where nearly as messy and are about as fast.

Graham

Pecanfan wrote:
I have had a 'discussion' with my Father In Law tonight about decorating.

I

say if wallpapering then gloss first then paper but if emulsioning then
paint first then gloss. He disagrees and says ALWAYS gloss first. My
thoughts are, if papering then the paper will cover any gloss on the walls
but if emulsioning then the emulsion will not stick to any gloss on the
wall, if you get my drift. Any opinions please?


Personally I always gloss last - not for any other reason than I consider it
as the 'finishing touch' to a room. Most decorators I've seen seem to gloss
last too. I can see the logic behind glossing then wallpapering, however
there's still the risk that your glosswork will end up covered in glue,
scratched by knives, scissors etc.

IF you make a mistake whilst glossing, then you can always touch up with a
spot of emulsion once the gloss has dried. I see no particular sense in
emulsioning last though since invariably your glosswork will end up covered
in splashes from rollering.


...and that's another thing - roller vs paint pad? I say roller.

Andy

...As for paint pad
vs roller. Always paint pad. They give a much nicer finish, aren't any
where nearly as messy and are about as fast.

Really? I've used both a fair bit and find rollers give a much better
finish. Also most pro decorators I've seen always seem to use rollers.
Each to their own though! :-)

Andy

I like the brushed look that you get from a pad.

I used rollers for quite a while and although the slightly, I suppose
you would call it, lumpy texture you get from a roller is quite pleasant
it is offset and spoilt, IMHO, by the cutting in area which has to be
brushed. I suspect pro decorators use a roller because it is a little
quicker (although with the monster 12" pad I use not much quicker) and
easier on the arms.

I would be interested to know if there is a way to avoid getting that
border with a roller. Even places that are pro decorated seem to have it
(although some are much worse than others).

Graham

Pecanfan wrote:
...As for paint pad
vs roller. Always paint pad. They give a much nicer finish, aren't any
where nearly as messy and are about as fast.


Really? I've used both a fair bit and find rollers give a much better
finish. Also most pro decorators I've seen always seem to use rollers.
Each to their own though! :-)

Andy