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Flues cross my boundary - whar are the regs
(Apologies if this double posts - tried once and google crashed)!
I have just got back from a long weekend away to find that my neighbour has installed a cooker hood flue (at eye level) and a boiler flue (at first floor level) through the external wall of his house that bounds my property. There is also a 15mm open ended copper pipe and two 110mm dia. holes also at first floor level. The hood flue sticks out by about 20mm, the boiler flue by about 300mm and the 15mm copper pipe by about 50mm, the two 110mm dia. holes are flush but it looks like they have (grey) soil pipe fittings and are waiting to have an external stack fitted. The offending wall is about 1m from the wall of my house and the boundary fence on that side (from the bottom of the garden to his house is my responsibility, I don't know if this matters). The passage is the only access from my back garden to my front garden and is used regularly, especially by the kids!! I know that the condensate from condensing boilers is acidic and that the flue can produce nuisance plumes of vapour and I guess it is not good to have these discharging directly onto my property. I am also concerned about the odours from the cooker hood flue. I'm not a controversial neighbour and probably wouldn't have minded him doing these jobs if only he'd discussed it with me first. Does anyone know what the regulations are concerning these issues as I would like to know where I stand before I confront him. TIA, Kev |
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"Kev Parkin" wrote in message
m (Apologies if this double posts - tried once and google crashed)! I have just got back from a long weekend away to find that my neighbour has installed a cooker hood flue (at eye level) and a boiler flue (at first floor level) through the external wall of his house that bounds my property. He sounds like a right #. He didn't want you to have the opportunity to refuse permission obviously. The houses on the site I am working at all have similar utility problems(?) like that. I would have queried that if I was buying one of them. One inmate even had the washing machine outlet from next door pouring into the trap for it with a section of the outlet missing and no attempt to put the pipe through the grid in the trap. How the surveyor missed that escapes me. Perhaps he is liable? I have no idea of the legality of it all but there is a thread on here somewhere about not getting into disputes with your neighbours if you want to sell up. If you do want to persue it psyche yourself up to take no nonsense. If you are unhappy with it, tell him and stick to your guns. DO NOT GIVE AN INCH! Don't smile and don't apologise in any respect. Just state your case plainly and curtly and leave it at that. Don't allow any argument to develop. If he wants to discuss it further let him do it later. Just say next time you see him: "Look; I'm not hapy with this, so and so and so and so." Then just walk away. Don't speak your mind don't tell him your reasoning, just explain what you are unhappy with. It isn't a dispute and you haven't given any ground or tried to second guess him. The onus is then on him. That in my considerable opinion is how to handle most events of that nature. (That and breaking windows.) Too many people these days don't know where the boundaries are, because too many people are afraid to put their feet down. -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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"Kev Parkin" wrote in message
m (Apologies if this double posts - tried once and google crashed)! I have just got back from a long weekend away to find that my neighbour has installed a cooker hood flue (at eye level) and a boiler flue (at first floor level) through the external wall of his house that bounds my property. Four interesting questions he (1) is he allowed he put the pipes etc over the border and (2) even if he made the outlets flush with the side of his house is he allowed to discharge into your 'airspace'. (3) are you allowed to remove the offending bits of pipe and (4) are you allowed to block the pipes? Sounds like uk.legal would be a good place to ask all this. R |
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Robert wrote: Four interesting questions he (1) is he allowed he put the pipes etc over the border and (2) even if he made the outlets flush with the side of his house is he allowed to discharge into your 'airspace'. (3) are you allowed to remove the offending bits of pipe and (4) are you allowed to block the pipes? Sounds like uk.legal would be a good place to ask all this. Sounds like a good way of ruining relations with a neighbour. Just how much time do you spend in the passageway between two houses if it's only a metre wide? If you took any action which forced him to alter the layout of the inside of his house because of this, I'd call you unreasonable. -- *When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say? * Dave Plowman London SW 12 RIP Acorn |
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I have just got back from a long weekend away to find that my
neighbour has installed a cooker hood flue (at eye level) and a boiler flue (at first floor level) through the external wall of his house that bounds my property. There is also a 15mm open ended copper pipe and two 110mm dia. holes also at first floor level. The hood flue sticks out by about 20mm, the boiler flue by about 300mm and the 15mm copper pipe by about 50mm, the two 110mm dia. holes are flush but it looks like they have (grey) soil pipe fittings and are waiting to have an external stack fitted. The offending wall is about 1m from the wall of my house and the boundary fence on that side (from the bottom of the garden to his house is my responsibility, I don't know if this matters). OK, i`m not a gas fitter or lawyer, so no doubt a more knowledgeable answer will follow shortly, but... If its a fanned flue then there might be an issue with the installer - most want a horizontal spacing of over a 1m I think - I think mine (a non-condensing) wants about 1.5m minimum I thought condensate drains had (*HAD*) to be plumbed in to a soil stack or similar. If he is putting in provisions for a soil stack, it sounds like he`s going to have to dig up that passageway to get it into the sewer at some stage ! I`d say the first step would be to check your deeds urgently to figure out whether the passageway is a shared access (whether currently used as one or not), and who the land belongs to. If its a shared access it may be a joint responsibility rather than your land. I am also concerned about the odours from the cooker hood flue. I probably would be too if it was over my boundary - irrespective of any smells - as it might incur a right of access for maintenance purposes in future (which he probably has anyway for repointing the brickwork etc) Does anyone know what the regulations are concerning these issues as I would like to know where I stand before I confront him. Perhaps posting to uk.legal or uk.legal.moderated might be in order too -- Please add "[newsgroup]" in the subject of any personal replies via email --- My new email address has "ngspamtrap" & @btinternet.com in it ;-) --- |
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Kev Parkin wrote: I know that the condensate from condensing boilers is acidic and that the flue can produce nuisance plumes of vapour and I guess it is not good to have these discharging directly onto my property. I am also concerned about the odours from the cooker hood flue. As regards the cooking smells, I can't really see what the difference would be if the hood outlet was just round the corner from where it is on a wall you'd obviously have no interest in. Whether you notice them will depend on the prevailing wind conditions. A bit like the constant barbecues we get round here... -- *Life is hard; then you nap Dave Plowman London SW 12 RIP Acorn |
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Does anyone know what the regulations are concerning these issues as I would like to know where I stand before I confront him. Building regs approved document J - link below. http://www.odpm.gov.uk/stellent/grou...eg_027748.hcsp From my understanding a boiler flue must be at least 600mm away from a facing boundary. Therefore if his wall (through which the flue projects) forms the boundary then this arrangement is not acceptable - speak to Building Control Officer at the local council. A. |
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On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 11:18:59 +0100, "Andy" wrote:
Snipped Does anyone know what the regulations are concerning these issues as I would like to know where I stand before I confront him. Building regs approved document J - link below. http://www.odpm.gov.uk/stellent/grou...eg_027748.hcsp From my understanding a boiler flue must be at least 600mm away from a facing boundary. Therefore if his wall (through which the flue projects) forms the boundary then this arrangement is not acceptable - speak to Building Control Officer at the local council. A. Interesting point. The distance of 1m would allow the safety requirements to be met - i.e. 600mm or more from facing wall, but the Building Regulations do define a boundary as "the boundary of the land or buildings belonging to and under the control of the building owner" ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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writes Snipped Does anyone know what the regulations are concerning these issues as I would like to know where I stand before I confront him. Building regs approved document J - link below. http://www.odpm.gov.uk/stellent/grou...e/odpm_breg_02 7748.hcsp From my understanding a boiler flue must be at least 600mm away from a facing boundary. Therefore if his wall (through which the flue projects) forms the boundary then this arrangement is not acceptable - speak to Building Control Officer at the local council. A. Perhaps your best bet might be to take some measurements and/or pictures and then get the local BCO to have a look at them, and see if he reckons any wrongdoings been dun. Much cheaper and far less bother then falling out unnecessarily with a neighbour and lining the plush pockets of me 'learned friends -- Tony Sayer |
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replying to tony sayer, Hydeprak wrote:
Building control will not get involved in boundary disputes although they are more than happy to let pipes overhang private property. Weird. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...egs-82951-.htm |
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Andy wrote: From my understanding a boiler flue must be at least 600mm away from a facing boundary. Therefore if his wall (through which the flue projects) forms the boundary then this arrangement is not acceptable - speak to Building Control Officer at the local council. It sounds like the passageway between the houses is shared - so where is the boundary in this case? I've got a similar thing - my house is a Victorian semi, and there's about a 1 metre passage shared with next door. Just nicely too small to allow wheelbarrow access because of downpipes. And if they wanted to vent anything into that passage I wouldn't object - unless it were to cause physical damage to my walls. -- *What happens when none of your bees wax? * Dave Plowman London SW 12 RIP Acorn |
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replying to Andy, Hydeprak wrote:
I have a similar issue. Building Control advised that it is not their issue. Building Control said take it up with the gas registered engineer who installed it. Gas Safe have guidelines for flume installation and that is what they are, guidelines not regulations. They say in their document that their guidelines can not be enforced. Therefore, it seems, people are free to place pipes over other peoples boundary so long as the gas pipes have been fitted by a gas registered engineer and the council will say all is ok. The only way is go through the courts either on a nuisance case, trespass or inability to build on your own land. Costly and no guarantee the pipes will be moved. Such a weird system. Building regulations and Gas safe have no powers where a flume is placed. Build Control Officer don't want to get involved in boundary disputes. My point is should nt they not allow people to place pipes on private land? how is that safe? When someone wants to build on their own land all adjacent pipes that emit fumes and steam will hit the boundary wall. Confused and perplexed. I would never do this to anyone. Its so petty. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...egs-82951-.htm |
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On 02/03/2020 00:44, Hydeprak wrote:
replying to Andy, Hydeprak wrote: I have a similar issue. Building Control advised that it is not their issue. Building Control said take it up with the gas registered engineer who installed it.Â* Gas Safe have guidelines for flume installation and that is what they are, guidelines not regulations. They say in their document that their guidelines can not be enforced. Therefore, it seems, people are free to place pipes over other peoples boundary so long as the gas pipes have been fitted by a gas registered engineer and the council will say all is ok. The only way is go through the courts either on a nuisance case, trespass or inability to build on your own land. Costly and no guarantee the pipes will be moved. Such a weird system. Building regulations and Gas safe have no powers where a flume is placed.Â* Build Control Officer don't want to get involved in boundary disputes. My point is should nt they not allow people to place pipes on private land? how is that safe? When someone wants to build on their own land all adjacent pipes that emit fumes and steam will hit the boundary wall. Confused and perplexed. I would never do this to anyone. Its so petty. unfortunately the building regs allow a limited amount of openings on a boundary and people have used this to have flues on the boundary...I would just stick a fence against it.....your right to do so under 2m high .... |
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"Kev Parkin" wrote in message m... (Apologies if this double posts - tried once and google crashed)! I have just got back from a long weekend away to find that my neighbour has installed a cooker hood flue (at eye level) and a boiler flue (at first floor level) through the external wall of his house that bounds my property. Phone and ask your local building control officer why he approved it. He will of course be right round as I expect he hasn't heard about it. |
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On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 11:33:15 +0100, "G&M" wrote:
"Kev Parkin" wrote in message om... (Apologies if this double posts - tried once and google crashed)! I have just got back from a long weekend away to find that my neighbour has installed a cooker hood flue (at eye level) and a boiler flue (at first floor level) through the external wall of his house that bounds my property. Phone and ask your local building control officer why he approved it. He will of course be right round as I expect he hasn't heard about it. He wouldn't have had to approve it if the installation was done by a CORGI fitter since CORGI has an approved self-certification scheme which exempts the need to inform Building Control. If the neighbour DIYed it, then he should have submitted a building notice. If A.N. Other did it for money, then that is illegal and CORGI could have an interest. However, how the OP would find out is another thing, and whether CORGI would then be interested or have any powers to act is another matter. It's still worth a BCO discussion on the boundary issue at least. ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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"G&M" wrote in message ...
"Kev Parkin" wrote in message m... (Apologies if this double posts - tried once and google crashed)! I have just got back from a long weekend away to find that my neighbour has installed a cooker hood flue (at eye level) and a boiler flue (at first floor level) through the external wall of his house that bounds my property. Phone and ask your local building control officer why he approved it. He will of course be right round as I expect he hasn't heard about it. Hi Kev, Fan flued boilers should have there flues positioned so they are more than 600mm from the boundry. If it is less than 2metres from the ground it should have a guard round it. The flue should be more than 600mm from a facing wall. To quote from a glowworm condensing boiler instruction book "The flue will produce a plume of condensation in cold weather, so specia care must be takenin siting the flue terminal so as not to caue a nuisanceto adjacent property" As you say there is a 15mm pipe stickng out of te wall I would guss it is a combi boiler and this is the saftey pipe from the pressure valve. If it is then it is incorrectly fitted. if the valve were to blow, steam and boiling water at 3bar (thats 43.5psi. in old money, twice the pressure of most car tires) would be comming out of this pipe. Just imamage walking past when the valve blows...... scarred for life...... If this pipe was a condensate drian from the boiler I would expect it to be 22mm pipe and this should go into a soil pipe or drain gulley. Does your garden go up to your neighbours wall, if it does, from what you say, it would appear that it is an illegal installation. If there is a 600mm gap on there side of the fence,between the fence and the wall then it might just be legal. David. |
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"G&M" wrote in message ...
"Kev Parkin" wrote in message m... (Apologies if this double posts - tried once and google crashed)! I have just got back from a long weekend away to find that my neighbour has installed a cooker hood flue (at eye level) and a boiler flue (at first floor level) through the external wall of his house that bounds my property. Phone and ask your local building control officer why he approved it. He will of course be right round as I expect he hasn't heard about it. Kev, Just re-read your post, you say the flue protroudes through the wall by about 300mm this is a no no. Not knowing the make of the boiler, but most flues only protude the wall by between 75mm and 125mm 3/5 inches. depending on make of boiler. David. |
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Thanks for all the advice, to try and answer some of the questions in
the above posts: a) There is no shared access b) The neighbours wall forms the boundary to my property c) The flues/pipes etc protrude directly from the wall, hence are on my property d) There is no garden between the wall and my path e) The passageway is the only access from the back to the front of the house for pushchairs, bikes etc, so is used daily f) I don't know what type of boiler it is - if it's a combi this would make it worse. g) There is no fence the wall is the boundary Once again thanks for the input, I think I'll have a word with him and then take things further if that doesn't have any success. Kev (Andrew Gabriel) wrote in message ... In article , (David H) writes: Kev, Just re-read your post, you say the flue protroudes through the wall by about 300mm this is a no no. Not knowing the make of the boiler, but most flues only protude the wall by between 75mm and 125mm 3/5 inches. depending on make of boiler. I've noticed quite a few balanced fanned flues protruding very much more than this recently. Sometimes it might be because they are below eaves, and they have been installed to protrude past the edge of the eaves. Looks rather unsightly, but seemingly becoming rather common. |
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"Kev Parkin" wrote in message om... Thanks for all the advice, to try and answer some of the questions in the above posts: a) There is no shared access b) The neighbours wall forms the boundary to my property c) The flues/pipes etc protrude directly from the wall, hence are on my property d) There is no garden between the wall and my path e) The passageway is the only access from the back to the front of the house for pushchairs, bikes etc, so is used daily f) I don't know what type of boiler it is - if it's a combi this would make it worse. g) There is no fence the wall is the boundary Once again thanks for the input, I think I'll have a word with him and then take things further if that doesn't have any success. Kev (Andrew Gabriel) wrote in message ... In article , (David H) writes: Kev, Just re-read your post, you say the flue protroudes through the wall by about 300mm this is a no no. Not knowing the make of the boiler, but most flues only protude the wall by between 75mm and 125mm 3/5 inches. depending on make of boiler. I've noticed quite a few balanced fanned flues protruding very much more than this recently. Sometimes it might be because they are below eaves, and they have been installed to protrude past the edge of the eaves. Looks rather unsightly, but seemingly becoming rather common. What about access for the installation? Did they trespass for this purpose or have I missed something |
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"Kev Parkin" wrote in message om... Thanks for all the advice, to try and answer some of the questions in the above posts: a) There is no shared access b) The neighbours wall forms the boundary to my property c) The flues/pipes etc protrude directly from the wall, hence are on my property d) There is no garden between the wall and my path e) The passageway is the only access from the back to the front of the house for pushchairs, bikes etc, so is used daily f) I don't know what type of boiler it is - if it's a combi this would make it worse. g) There is no fence the wall is the boundary Once again thanks for the input, I think I'll have a word with him and then take things further if that doesn't have any success. Kev just to throw in some more suggestions to the pot, you may wish to discuss having the flue / extractor outlets extended with an external stack if appropriate. I would certainly expect your neighbour to tell you what the 15mm copper pipes are for and what they may be discharging.. In fact I would insist on it. If they boiler is a condensing type and one of these is a discharge pipe then there is no option but to get the problem rectified. In fact I wouldn't be happy no matter what the pipes could potentially discharge, I would never want them potentially discharging into a regularly used passageway... get him to pipe them around the corner to his own back garden. At the end of the day it may create some bad feeling.. you can always give him the opportunity to lay the blame on whoever carried out the work.. Good luck with this Kev I think we are all interested in the outcome. all the best David |
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"Kev Parkin" wrote in message
om... Thanks for all the advice, to try and answer some of the questions in the above posts: a) There is no shared access b) The neighbours wall forms the boundary to my property c) The flues/pipes etc protrude directly from the wall, hence are on my property d) There is no garden between the wall and my path e) The passageway is the only access from the back to the front of the house for pushchairs, bikes etc, so is used daily f) I don't know what type of boiler it is - if it's a combi this would make it worse. g) There is no fence the wall is the boundary Once again thanks for the input, I think I'll have a word with him and then take things further if that doesn't have any success. Kev BS5440-1(2000) says: """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """"""""""""""""""""""""" When locating a fanned flued room sealed appliance, the position of the terminal should be such as to minimize the risk of re-entry of combustion products through openable windows, vents etc. of opposite or adjacent properties. A plume of products of combustion may be readily observed, especially in cold weather or if a condensing appliance is involved. It is recommended that a fanned flue terminal should be positioned as follows: a) at least 2 m from an opening in a building directly opposite; and b) so that the products of combustion are not directed to discharge across a boundary. In the absence of any specific instruction from the manufacturer, a suitable guard should be provided whenever a terminal is fitted less than 2 m above ground, above a balcony or above a flat roof to which people have access. """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """"""""""""""""""""""""" Approved Document J (2002) says: """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """"""""""""""""""""""""" Flues discharging at low level near boundaries 1.51 Flues discharging at low level near boundaries should do so at positions where the building owner will always be able to ensure safe flue gas dispersal. A way of achieving this where owners of adjacent land could build up to the boundary would be to adopt the suggestions in Diagrams 3.4 or 4.2, as relevant. """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """"""""""""""""""""""""" (Diagram 3.4 shows the terminal kept 600mm or more from the boundary line for a gas fired fanned balanced flue; 4.2 refers to oil-fired appliances.) From a gas safety perspective you (or a subsequent owner) might build an extension on your property up to the boundary which would then make the termination of his boiler unsafe. I'm not sure whether his installation would be classed as Not to Current Standards (NCS) or At Risk (AR) but as a new installation it certainly should not have been done in this way. The local CORGI inspector might have something to say about it. I also agree about the pressure relief discharge pipe: potentially very dangerous to you and your family and anyone else using your property. |
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Kev Parkin wrote:
Thanks for all the advice, to try and answer some of the questions in the above posts: a) There is no shared access b) The neighbours wall forms the boundary to my property c) The flues/pipes etc protrude directly from the wall, hence are on my property If this is the case, I belive you'd be completely within your rights to simply cut them off, and cap the ends. |
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Subject: Flues cross my boundary - whar are the regs
From: (Kev Parkin) Date: 03/06/04 01:48 GMT Daylight Time Message-id: (Apologies if this double posts - tried once and google crashed)! I have just got back from a long weekend away to find that my neighbour has installed a cooker hood flue (at eye level) and a boiler flue (at first floor level) through the external wall of his house that bounds my property. There is also a 15mm open ended copper pipe and two 110mm dia. holes also at first floor level. The hood flue sticks out by about 20mm, the boiler flue by about 300mm and the 15mm copper pipe by about 50mm, the two 110mm dia. holes are flush but it looks like they have (grey) soil pipe fittings and are waiting to have an external stack fitted. The offending wall is about 1m from the wall of my house and the boundary fence on that side (from the bottom of the garden to his house is my responsibility, I don't know if this matters). The passage is the only access from my back garden to my front garden and is used regularly, especially by the kids!! I know that the condensate from condensing boilers is acidic and that the flue can produce nuisance plumes of vapour and I guess it is not good to have these discharging directly onto my property. I am also concerned about the odours from the cooker hood flue. I'm not a controversial neighbour and probably wouldn't have minded him doing these jobs if only he'd discussed it with me first. Does anyone know what the regulations are concerning these issues as I would like to know where I stand before I confront him. I'd forget regulations. If the items protrude onto your land then they constitute a trespass and that's all you need to concern yourself with. By all means try and discuss it in a civil manner first but if the items aren't removed then court action will be needed. Provided you are certain that the house wall is the boundary (this may well need to be tested in court) then you have a sure fire win and the neighbour should realise that. Dave Baker - Puma Race Engines (www.pumaracing.co.uk) Next time someone insults you remember it takes 12 muscles to smile politely and try to pass it off but only 4 to reach out your arm and slap the ****. |
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"If the items protrude onto your land then they
constitute a trespass and that's all you need to concern yourself with." I've been following this thread. I'm with Mr.Baker; it's your land and the neighbour should have sought your permission before installing anything on or over it. However, bear in mind that he might have been misled by the installer (who should have known your permission was required). Alternatively, if he is a devious type, he may have timed the installation to co-incide with your absence. Did he know you'd be away? The 15mm pipe could be a condense drain from a condensing boiler, but should then have been in plastic. I think it is more likely to be the discharge from a safety valve. If so then it shouldn't discharge anything in normal use, but if it operated it could discharge very hot water. It would have to be terminated in a visible and safe place. A termination over a passage is a safety hazard, if it is what I think. I think I'd write a brief note stating that your permission should have been obtained before these pipes were installed, that you have not given your permission and that you would expect all further work on the installation to be stopped until you have received written details of the works for consideration. When you know what it all is, only then could you consider giving permission. |
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I think I'd write a brief note stating that your permission should have been obtained before these pipes were installed, that you have not given your permission and that you would expect all further work on the installation to be stopped until you have received written details of the works for consideration. When you know what it all is, only then could you consider giving permission. Suggestions: 1) Keep note brief and to the point. i.e making no other points that could weaken your argument. 2) Try to obtain some form of agreement (or a nominal payment?). That will then place on record that it IS an intrusion onto your property. |
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"Terry" wrote in message om...
I think I'd write a brief note stating that your permission should have been obtained before these pipes were installed, that you have not given your permission and that you would expect all further work on the installation to be stopped until you have received written details of the works for consideration. When you know what it all is, only then could you consider giving permission. Suggestions: 1) Keep note brief and to the point. i.e making no other points that could weaken your argument. 2) Try to obtain some form of agreement (or a nominal payment?). That will then place on record that it IS an intrusion onto your property. Hi all, thanks for the feedback, I thought I'd update you on the above situation....... Well, Saturday came and with it came white van man! Hey presto, all pipes and flue removed from boundary wall and re-sited on adjacent wall. Holes still need making good on external wall - I still haven't seen or heard from my neighbour though, but it looks like my friendly note did the trick. Kev |
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Subject: Flues cross my boundary - whar are the regs
From: (Kev Parkin) Date: 21/06/04 23:46 GMT Daylight Time Message-id: "Terry" wrote in message . com... I think I'd write a brief note stating that your permission should have been obtained before these pipes were installed, that you have not given your permission and that you would expect all further work on the installation to be stopped until you have received written details of the works for consideration. When you know what it all is, only then could you consider giving permission. Suggestions: 1) Keep note brief and to the point. i.e making no other points that could weaken your argument. 2) Try to obtain some form of agreement (or a nominal payment?). That will then place on record that it IS an intrusion onto your property. Hi all, thanks for the feedback, I thought I'd update you on the above situation....... Well, Saturday came and with it came white van man! Hey presto, all pipes and flue removed from boundary wall and re-sited on adjacent wall. Holes still need making good on external wall - I still haven't seen or heard from my neighbour though, but it looks like my friendly note did the trick. Kev Result Well done that man. -- Dave Baker - Puma Race Engines (www.pumaracing.co.uk) Next time someone insults you remember it takes 12 muscles to smile politely and try to pass it off but only 4 to reach out your arm and slap the ****. |
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Kev Parkin wrote: Hey presto, all pipes and flue removed from boundary wall and re-sited on adjacent wall. Holes still need making good on external wall - I still haven't seen or heard from my neighbour though, but it looks like my friendly note did the trick. Result. Much better than getting into a dispute. Could be it never even occurred to him that his builders shouldn't have done this without permission. -- *The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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