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Just fitted a new bath and there is a gap between the bath and the two end
walls of approx 1.5cm. Will Silicone fill this size gap, and to what depth?
Or should I use some other type of filler with a silicone 'top coat'?
When the walls have been tiled, I'll be adding an L shaped seal anyway, but
I thought the extra sealant/filler would add to rigidity/stability.
Thanks.

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Graeme wrote:
Just fitted a new bath and there is a gap between the bath and the two end
walls of approx 1.5cm. Will Silicone fill this size gap, and to what depth?
Or should I use some other type of filler with a silicone 'top coat'?
When the walls have been tiled, I'll be adding an L shaped seal anyway, but
I thought the extra sealant/filler would add to rigidity/stability.

Silicone will fill it, but don't rely on it to seal. Make sure you get
your final seal, with the L profile, really watertight.

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Graeme wrote:
Just fitted a new bath and there is a gap between the bath and the two end
walls of approx 1.5cm. Will Silicone fill this size gap, and to what depth?
Or should I use some other type of filler with a silicone 'top coat'?
When the walls have been tiled, I'll be adding an L shaped seal anyway, but
I thought the extra sealant/filler would add to rigidity/stability.
Thanks.

I would not bother sealing it until the tiles are in place - that will
stop water getting behind them. It will also reduce the 1.5cm to
something a bit more managable.

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Firstly apologies for a total lack of information but

I was watching a programme the other day and they looked at a man who
had given up his job and invested his savings to market a moveable
bath sealer, it was a white moving plastic fitting that moves up and
down.

I think that it was on the money programme but I am not sure - I will
search but hopefully someone else will have seen it. It certainly
seemed to offer an alternative to silicon sealant.

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"Graeme" wrote in message ...
Just fitted a new bath and there is a gap between the bath and the two end
walls of approx 1.5cm. Will Silicone fill this size gap, and to what depth?
Or should I use some other type of filler with a silicone 'top coat'?
When the walls have been tiled, I'll be adding an L shaped seal anyway, but
I thought the extra sealant/filler would add to rigidity/stability.
Thanks.



For a gap that width I'd recommend using a bath seal strip which will sit on the wall
and you put your tiles over it.

Have a look at this page:

http://www.tradetiler.com/acatalog/Plastic_Trims.html

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"BigWallop" wrote in message
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"Graeme" wrote in message
...
Just fitted a new bath and there is a gap between the bath and the two
end
walls of approx 1.5cm. Will Silicone fill this size gap, and to what
depth?
Or should I use some other type of filler with a silicone 'top coat'?
When the walls have been tiled, I'll be adding an L shaped seal anyway,
but
I thought the extra sealant/filler would add to rigidity/stability.
Thanks.



For a gap that width I'd recommend using a bath seal strip which will sit
on the wall
and you put your tiles over it.

Have a look at this page:

http://www.tradetiler.com/acatalog/Plastic_Trims.html

I'd already looked at these but am not totally convinced. Wouldn't slight
movement in the bath cause stress on the tiles? I guess I was hoping that
filling the gap with silicone would add stability. The bath doesn't move
that much, in fact after screwing the legs to the floor, and a couple of
wall brackets, I only know it does move a little because I've _tried_ to
move it.

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"Grunff" wrote in message
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Graeme wrote:
Just fitted a new bath and there is a gap between the bath and the two
end
walls of approx 1.5cm. Will Silicone fill this size gap, and to what
depth?
Or should I use some other type of filler with a silicone 'top coat'?
When the walls have been tiled, I'll be adding an L shaped seal anyway,
but
I thought the extra sealant/filler would add to rigidity/stability.

Silicone will fill it, but don't rely on it to seal. Make sure you get
your final seal, with the L profile, really watertight.

Thanks.
I was going to rely on the L profile for the seal, and the silicone would
just add a bit of extra stability.

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"Graeme" wrote in message
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"BigWallop" wrote in message
...

"Graeme" wrote in message
...
Just fitted a new bath and there is a gap between the bath and the two
end
walls of approx 1.5cm. Will Silicone fill this size gap, and to what
depth?
Or should I use some other type of filler with a silicone 'top coat'?
When the walls have been tiled, I'll be adding an L shaped seal
anyway,
but
I thought the extra sealant/filler would add to rigidity/stability.
Thanks.



For a gap that width I'd recommend using a bath seal strip which will
sit
on the wall
and you put your tiles over it.

Have a look at this page:

http://www.tradetiler.com/acatalog/Plastic_Trims.html

I'd already looked at these but am not totally convinced. Wouldn't slight
movement in the bath cause stress on the tiles? I guess I was hoping that
filling the gap with silicone would add stability. The bath doesn't move
that much, in fact after screwing the legs to the floor, and a couple of
wall brackets, I only know it does move a little because I've _tried_ to
move it.



Draw a line on the wall with a pencil exactly where the top edge is, then
fill the bath with water and draw another line - you'll be amazed how far it
moves. A bath full of water weighs a huge amount !

The bath itself flexes, the floor will go down a bit, and the leg structure
will compress - it all adds up. Best case is a cast iron bath on a concrete
floor. Worst case is an acrylic bath on a chipboard floor !

Andrew Mawson

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Graeme,

I had a similar situation and used a bath seal as suggested by BigWallop -
i.e. seal with tiles over it. In my case it was an acrylic bath on
traditional floorboards. The only precaution I took was to fill the bath
with water before fitting the seal and putting on the tiles - when the tile
cement had dried, I emptied the bath. That was 5 years ago and I've had no
problems at all. The bath does settle down with the weight of the water,
but the seal is designed to compensate a certain amount. In my case, I've
seen no evidence of stress on the bath or tiles. I'd use it again.

Murdo

"Graeme" wrote in message
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"BigWallop" wrote in message
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"Graeme" wrote in message
...
Just fitted a new bath and there is a gap between the bath and the two
end
walls of approx 1.5cm. Will Silicone fill this size gap, and to what
depth?
Or should I use some other type of filler with a silicone 'top coat'?
When the walls have been tiled, I'll be adding an L shaped seal
anyway,
but
I thought the extra sealant/filler would add to rigidity/stability.
Thanks.



For a gap that width I'd recommend using a bath seal strip which will
sit
on the wall
and you put your tiles over it.

Have a look at this page:

http://www.tradetiler.com/acatalog/Plastic_Trims.html

I'd already looked at these but am not totally convinced. Wouldn't slight
movement in the bath cause stress on the tiles? I guess I was hoping that
filling the gap with silicone would add stability. The bath doesn't move
that much, in fact after screwing the legs to the floor, and a couple of
wall brackets, I only know it does move a little because I've _tried_ to
move it.

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Graeme wrote:

Just fitted a new bath and there is a gap between the bath and the two end
walls of approx 1.5cm. Will Silicone fill this size gap, and to what depth?
Or should I use some other type of filler with a silicone 'top coat'?
When the walls have been tiled, I'll be adding an L shaped seal anyway, but
I thought the extra sealant/filler would add to rigidity/stability.
Thanks.




shape a bit of wood to fit, coat it liberally in superglue, and tap it
into position,.

NOW use silicone sealant...

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wrote:

I was watching a programme the other day and they looked at a man who
had given up his job and invested his savings to market a moveable
bath sealer, it was a white moving plastic fitting that moves up and
down.


Might have been "Working Lunch" a few weeks back... was it the same
company who did the set of spikes you drop a growbag onto su that there
is then a solid fitting for the tomato canes?




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Have a chat with Dow Corning Technical for a product with high movement capability
(possibly 791 ?) I think it can tolerate 50% or more and there may be better ones. If the
bath moves more than 2 or 3 mm though that would be excessive and attention would need to
be paid to e.g. the floor and mounts.

Nick

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Might have been "Working Lunch" a few weeks back... was it the same
company who did the set of spikes you drop a growbag onto su that there
is then a solid fitting for the tomato canes?

yes it was - still can't find it though

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On Wed, 19 May 2004 12:07:17 +0000 (UTC), "Andrew Mawson"
wrote:


"Graeme" wrote in message
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"BigWallop" wrote in message
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"Graeme" wrote in message
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Just fitted a new bath and there is a gap between the bath and the two
end
walls of approx 1.5cm. Will Silicone fill this size gap, and to what
depth?
Or should I use some other type of filler with a silicone 'top coat'?
When the walls have been tiled, I'll be adding an L shaped seal
anyway,
but
I thought the extra sealant/filler would add to rigidity/stability.
Thanks.



For a gap that width I'd recommend using a bath seal strip which will
sit
on the wall
and you put your tiles over it.

Have a look at this page:

http://www.tradetiler.com/acatalog/Plastic_Trims.html

I'd already looked at these but am not totally convinced. Wouldn't slight
movement in the bath cause stress on the tiles? I guess I was hoping that
filling the gap with silicone would add stability. The bath doesn't move
that much, in fact after screwing the legs to the floor, and a couple of
wall brackets, I only know it does move a little because I've _tried_ to
move it.



Draw a line on the wall with a pencil exactly where the top edge is, then
fill the bath with water and draw another line - you'll be amazed how far it
moves. A bath full of water weighs a huge amount !

The bath itself flexes, the floor will go down a bit, and the leg structure
will compress - it all adds up. Best case is a cast iron bath on a concrete
floor. Worst case is an acrylic bath on a chipboard floor !

Hi,

Also the silicon seal needs to be some multiple of this and to have
the right depth and a bond breaker behind it if necessary.

cheers,
Pete.

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"Grunff" wrote in message


Silicone will fill it, but don't rely on it to seal. Make sure you get
your final seal, with the L profile, really watertight.

Someone write and tell this fool where to get a tape measure.


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Michael Mcneil wrote:
"Grunff" wrote in message


Silicone will fill it, but don't rely on it to seal. Make sure you get
your final seal, with the L profile, really watertight.

Someone write and tell this fool where to get a tape measure.

Pity the fool who loses his tape measure.

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"Andrew Mawson" wrote in message
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"Graeme" wrote in message
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"BigWallop" wrote in message
...

"Graeme" wrote in message
...
Just fitted a new bath and there is a gap between the bath and the
two
end
walls of approx 1.5cm. Will Silicone fill this size gap, and to what
depth?
Or should I use some other type of filler with a silicone 'top
coat'?
When the walls have been tiled, I'll be adding an L shaped seal
anyway,
but
I thought the extra sealant/filler would add to rigidity/stability.
Thanks.



For a gap that width I'd recommend using a bath seal strip which will
sit
on the wall
and you put your tiles over it.

Have a look at this page:

http://www.tradetiler.com/acatalog/Plastic_Trims.html

I'd already looked at these but am not totally convinced. Wouldn't
slight
movement in the bath cause stress on the tiles? I guess I was hoping
that
filling the gap with silicone would add stability. The bath doesn't move
that much, in fact after screwing the legs to the floor, and a couple of
wall brackets, I only know it does move a little because I've _tried_ to
move it.



Draw a line on the wall with a pencil exactly where the top edge is, then
fill the bath with water and draw another line - you'll be amazed how far
it
moves. A bath full of water weighs a huge amount !

The bath itself flexes, the floor will go down a bit, and the leg
structure
will compress - it all adds up. Best case is a cast iron bath on a
concrete
floor. Worst case is an acrylic bath on a chipboard floor !

I had assumed that the bath would move a.little depending on the amount of
water and people (;-) that are in it. I did your experiment of drawing a
line with the bath empty, and then full. The lines are in exactly the same
place! Not 0.5mm difference. This is an acrylic bath on chipboard (although
the bath's feet are directly over the joists).

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"Grunff" wrote in message


Silicone will fill it, but don't rely on it to seal. Make sure you get
your final seal, with the L profile, really watertight.

Someone write and tell this fool where to get a tape measure.

Sorry, are you saying that this gap is too big to fill with silicone?
Ta.

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"Graeme" wrote in message
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SNIP lot of good stuff

Draw a line on the wall with a pencil exactly where the top edge is,
then
fill the bath with water and draw another line - you'll be amazed how
far
it
moves. A bath full of water weighs a huge amount !

The bath itself flexes, the floor will go down a bit, and the leg
structure
will compress - it all adds up. Best case is a cast iron bath on a
concrete
floor. Worst case is an acrylic bath on a chipboard floor !

I had assumed that the bath would move a.little depending on the amount of
water and people (;-) that are in it. I did your experiment of drawing a
line with the bath empty, and then full. The lines are in exactly the same
place! Not 0.5mm difference. This is an acrylic bath on chipboard
(although
the bath's feet are directly over the joists).


Graeme,

I'm glad to hear it but a bit suprised ! Maybe the joist span is very small
? or is it a very small bath ? - anyway it's good news for the longevity of
your seal ! (says he who has to repaint the downstairs loo ceiling AGAIN as
the seal failed on out first floor bath behind the taps!)

Andrew Mawson

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"Graeme" wrote in message


Someone write and tell this fool where to get a tape measure.

Sorry, are you saying that this gap is too big to fill with silicone?

Is this a troll?

We are talking about gaps of 5/8" here are we not?




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Michael Mcneil wrote:
"Grunff" wrote in message


Silicone will fill it, but don't rely on it to seal. Make sure you get
your final seal, with the L profile, really watertight.

Someone write and tell this fool where to get a tape measure.

Pity the fool who loses his tape measure.

If you lose your bubble, do you become level headed or not ?


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"Graeme" wrote in message


Someone write and tell this fool where to get a tape measure.

Sorry, are you saying that this gap is too big to fill with silicone?

Is this a troll?

We are talking about gaps of 5/8" here are we not?

Troll? No.

I've never used silicone before. So am I to assume that 5/8" is way too
much? Why?

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"Graeme" wrote in message


Sorry, are you saying that this gap is too big to fill with silicone?

Is this a troll?

We are talking about gaps of 5/8" here are we not?

Troll? No.

I've never used silicone before. So am I to assume that 5/8" is way too
much? Why?

I'm sorry about all that.

If there is a 15mm gap from the bath to the wall you will need to put
something in there. The silicon is a liquid until it sets it will flow
down the wall. It will fill smallish gaps as it is quite viscous and
sets fairly quickly. A strip of 1/2" wooden (or plastic or some other
sort of) beading will do.

Stick it on with silicon if you like.* Then run a stream of silicon
along the now diminished gap.

Make sure the outlet is large enough for the strip you want to lay, by
cutting the nozzle at a suitible diameter and cut it with a slight
angle.

Each time you run a bead, wipe the nozzle clean until you get the hang
of it. When using the gun, remember it will keep coming out after you
have stopped squeezing -so have some newspaper or a rag handy.

Do a dry run or two to get the hang of the angle you want and rest part
of the nozzle on one edge as you go. If you think you might louse it up,
run a strip of tape either side of where you want the stuff to end up
and rip it off after it will leave an excellent edge if you do it
quickly and remove it straight away.

Going too slowly is the surest way to foul up.

Good luck and have fun.

*You'd better not. Use No Nails -or a couple of tacks with the silicon.
one more thing, buy the best mastic gun you can find. The cheapest ones
are really naff and most of them are too small for the longer
cartridges.


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Graeme wrote:

I've never used silicone before. So am I to assume that 5/8" is way too
much? Why?

No, it's not at all too much, it's fine. RTV silicone as sold by the
sheds for bathroom use is a thick gel like substance, you can easily
fill an inch gap by overlapping beads of it.

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"Grunff" wrote in message
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Graeme wrote:

I've never used silicone before. So am I to assume that 5/8" is way too
much? Why?

No, it's not at all too much, it's fine. RTV silicone as sold by the
sheds for bathroom use is a thick gel like substance, you can easily
fill an inch gap by overlapping beads of it.


You don't fit double glazing by any chance ?...... !

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"Grunff" wrote in message
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Graeme wrote:

I've never used silicone before. So am I to assume that 5/8" is way too
much? Why?

No, it's not at all too much, it's fine. RTV silicone as sold by the
sheds for bathroom use is a thick gel like substance, you can easily
fill an inch gap by overlapping beads of it.

You don't fit double glazing by any chance ?...... !

The bloody fool had the cheek to tell me that he had me in his ignore
files. As if I could care. At least I don't have to ride herd on the
cowboy answering my posts.

I bet you can tell which house is his by looking at the doors in his
street.


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