I know, I know... "don't buy one" but SWMBO has her claws well and truly
dug in (c;

looking for the cheapest place to buy a basic Saniflo macerator, best
price I've found (online) is £250 inc vat & delivery from Plum Warehouse

thanks
LJ

On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 20:38:57 -0000, "in2minds" strung
together this:

I know, I know... "don't buy one" but SWMBO has her claws well and truly
dug in (c;

Then it's time for the divorce courts I'm afraid.
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"in2minds" wrote in message
...
I know, I know... "don't buy one" but SWMBO has her claws well and truly
dug in (c;

looking for the cheapest place to buy a basic Saniflo macerator, best
price I've found (online) is £250 inc vat & delivery from Plum Warehouse


We found the best price (for Sanibest so can't compare to your prices) at
Grahams.

Or Wickes sometimes have their badged one on offer - about £219 I think last
time.

In article ,
"Mike" writes:

"in2minds" wrote in message
...
I know, I know... "don't buy one" but SWMBO has her claws well and truly
dug in (c;

looking for the cheapest place to buy a basic Saniflo macerator, best
price I've found (online) is £250 inc vat & delivery from Plum Warehouse


We found the best price (for Sanibest so can't compare to your prices) at
Grahams.

Or Wickes sometimes have their badged one on offer - about £219 I think last
time.

It's a horrible thought, but there seem to be several on ebay ;-)

--
Andrew Gabriel

On 8 Dec 2004 21:09:32 GMT, (Andrew
Gabriel) wrote:

In article ,
"Mike" writes:

"in2minds" wrote in message
...
I know, I know... "don't buy one" but SWMBO has her claws well and truly
dug in (c;

looking for the cheapest place to buy a basic Saniflo macerator, best
price I've found (online) is £250 inc vat & delivery from Plum Warehouse


We found the best price (for Sanibest so can't compare to your prices) at
Grahams.

Or Wickes sometimes have their badged one on offer - about £219 I think last
time.

It's a horrible thought, but there seem to be several on ebay ;-)


As in secondhand?

It would seem like buying a used toilet.....



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Andy Hall wrote:

As in secondhand?

It would seem like buying a used toilet.....

Only worse.... at least a toilet you might expect to have been flushed
first. You never know with the saniflo what lurks within!

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On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 20:38:57 -0000, "in2minds"
wrote:

I know, I know... "don't buy one" but SWMBO has her claws well and truly
dug in (c;

Trade her in for a better model. A few modern ones come with a brain
fitted.

looking for the cheapest place to buy a basic Saniflo macerator, best
price I've found (online) is £250

You will find many people will pay you to take them away. However
you need to factor in the plumber surcharge which is usually GBP500
per visit. As long as the thing is never used as anything but a
Hyacinth Bucket accessory you might be OK.

However, If usage involves females or children you will have to pay
the plumber surcharge every month or so. Alternatively you can DIY,
in which case after the third episode you will be disposing of SWMBO
so why delay? Do it now and save several hundred pounds, some nasty
skin and intestinal infections, several courses of antibiotics and
weeks of being treated by your mates as an olfactory flying dutchman.


--
Peter Parry.
http://www.wpp.ltd.uk/

Peter Parry wrote:

You will find many people will pay you to take them away. However
you need to factor in the plumber surcharge which is usually GBP500
per visit. As long as the thing is never used as anything but a
Hyacinth Bucket accessory you might be OK.

However, If usage involves females or children you will have to pay
the plumber surcharge every month or so. Alternatively you can DIY,
in which case after the third episode you will be disposing of SWMBO
so why delay? Do it now and save several hundred pounds, some nasty
skin and intestinal infections, several courses of antibiotics and
weeks of being treated by your mates as an olfactory flying dutchman.


You really don't like these things do you Peter?

Some years ago I came across a post on here about these Saniflo things
which I thought was funny - no, I lie, *very funny*. Thanks to Google,
I've just re-read it and I still think it's very funny. I was surprised
though to find who'd written it - yes that's right Peter, it was you.
So, to save the OP any future heartache, I reproduce it below:-

quote

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Newsgroups: uk.d-i-y
Subject: Saniflo WCs
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:15:15 GMT
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On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:25:33 +0000, Angus
wrote:

My recently installed Saniflo does not behave as described in the user
manual. On flusshing the WC it's supposed to run continuously for about
15 seconds, mine pulses on-off 3 or 4 times for about 2-3 seconds
duration. Any ideas?

Sell the house, failing that give it away, if that doesn't work pay
someone to take it or burn it down.

To give you a clue - these ghastly instruments of the Devil are
French. Add the French and lavatorial engineering - now see why I
say get out while you can. Moreover this particular Frenchman was a
lunatic with strong Anglophobic tendancies and a bad case of
coprophilia.

I am quite sure the designer was also an ex-submariner Frenchman who
missed the strangled screams of seamen who had got the valve sequence
wrong in the submarines toilet and just been rinsed down with a few
gallons of seawater (and the recently donated contents of the bowl).

They break down at the slightest opportunity. The only thing you can
actually guarantee about them is that they will break down - very
frequently.

Basically the only way of maintaining the slightest semblance of
serviceability is to impose on pain of repair the same rules as for a
small yachts sea toilet - if it hasn't passed through you it doesn't
go in the bowl.

They have an interesting design. The motor has poor starting torque
and the macerator lots of tiny teeth. Ergo anything that has strands
in it catches on the teeth and stops the motor from starting. Things
with strands include anything with cotton wool (including cotton wool
buds) and anything with cloth. Females in particular must not be
allowed anywhere near these devices. If you were unfortunate enough
to have the added misery of a sink (oh dear - you were) then add
hair, strands from wooly pullovers and almost anything else thats at
all fibrous.

When they break (which they will - that's an absolute certainty)
their endearing characteristic is that you are left with a bowl full
of whatever which you have to empty back the way it came and more
importantly many feet of 40mm pipe still full of minced whatever.
When you disconnect the pipe I'll give you one guess where its going
to go. Repairing or unblocking them is the most thoroughly revolting
job.

Now to get to specifics - the pulsing is a fault in either
installation or the pressure switch. Does it pulse with just the
cold water tap running from the sink? The way they work is a low
pressure trip switch switches on the motor when the small holding
tank is full. This tank remains partially full all the time. If its
pulsing either the switch has too low a hysterisis or water isn't
getting into it fast enough. The motor should remain on for a few
seconds after everything has emptied so that pulsing you are seeing
shouldn't be happening.

As the failure rate of these diabolical things is worse than that of
a F104 Starfighter I'd suggest you get the installer back (preferably
to remove it forever). If it was installed by yourself then self
flaggelation with a few lengths of barbed wire and a call to the
Saniflo people might be in order.


Also, my system is a Sanitop with the outflow from a washbasin going
into the top of the unit. I find that running the tap for a few seconds
activates the Saniflow. Is there any way of adjusting the sensitivity of
it so that it will only run when a reasonable amount of water has gone
into the unit.

No, but if its oversensitive this might be related to the pulsing you
are seeing.

I dont see why the washbasin water cant just bypass the
cutter/pump internally.

Because these horrors are designed to be installed pumping upwards -
the raving idiot who designed them thought it would be pretty neat to
have something you could stick in a downstairs cloakroom and run the
pipe upwards to join the soil stack in the bathroom. If that's how
your installation goes cut out the selling the house bit - just burn
it now. When it fails there is 10ft of pressurised whatsit just
waiting for that final turn on the drainpipe.

The other reason the sink must go through the pump is that the outlet
of the thing is at some pressure. Connect the sink a bit downstream
and every time you pull the chain the contents of the loo make a
pretty little fountain out of the sink plughole (I've seen one
plumbed like that - the owner kept a sandbag in the sink on top of
the plug).

Some models have an interesting feature - on the top is a reset
switch, under the top cover is a screwdriver slot on the top of the
motor drive shaft to allow you to clear the (frequent) blockages.
However to get the top cover open to get at the drive shaft to free
it - you've guessed - you have to disconnect the drain pipe.

How they can be called Saniflow when they are anything but sanitary
(as you will soon find out) and rarely flow is beyond me.

As I said - sell the house.

--
Peter Parry.

/quote
--
Ian Edwards

"Peter Parry" wrote
| As long as the thing is never used as anything but a
| Hyacinth Bucket accessory you might be OK.

There's nothing in Hyacinth's bathroom that isn't porcelain with
hand-painted periwinkles.

Owain

Owain wrote:
"Peter Parry" wrote
| As long as the thing is never used as anything but a
| Hyacinth Bucket accessory you might be OK.

There's nothing in Hyacinth's bathroom that isn't porcelain with
hand-painted periwinkles.

And there I was thinking that shiny toilet paper was bad.

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...
On 8 Dec 2004 21:09:32 GMT, (Andrew
Gabriel) wrote:

In article ,
"Mike" writes:
snip

It's a horrible thought, but there seem to be several on ebay ;-)


As in secondhand?

It would seem like buying a used toilet.....

All of the houses I've bought have had toilets already installed, and
I've not felt a particular need to replace them before use, nor indeed
to replace them in hotel rooms before use in those far-off days when I
used to stay in hotels occasionally.

So what's wrong with buying a s/h bog?

A bit like all those good folk who proclaim they'd never buy secondhand
tyres for their car ("you never know how they've been misused") but
cheerfully buy a secondhand car and drive it without even thinking of
taking each tyre off to check it thoroughly, let alone replacing them
all automatically.

An interesting "question for seller" of an ebay Saniflo might be: "If
it's as immaculately clean as you say it is, will you demonstrate this
by dismantling it in your kitchen when I come to collect it?"

Note: I am not advocating buying a Saniflo; new, used, or (interesting
concept) shop soiled.


--
Kevin Poole
**Use current month and year to reply (e.g. )***
Car Transport by Tiltbed Trailer - based near Derby

On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 08:33:18 -0000, "Autolycus"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message
.. .
On 8 Dec 2004 21:09:32 GMT, (Andrew
Gabriel) wrote:

In article ,
"Mike" writes:
snip

It's a horrible thought, but there seem to be several on ebay ;-)


As in secondhand?

It would seem like buying a used toilet.....

All of the houses I've bought have had toilets already installed, and
I've not felt a particular need to replace them before use, nor indeed
to replace them in hotel rooms before use in those far-off days when I
used to stay in hotels occasionally.

So what's wrong with buying a s/h bog?


Nothing at all if it was a Thomas Crapper original

However, if you were equipping a bathroom with contemporary
sanitaryware, would you buy it secondhand on Ebay or new in the store?

Houses that I have bought have either had sanitaryware that was way
past its sell by date, or it's been a new house.


--

..andy

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Mo (I'm particularly entrigued by the 4" wind turbine option!)
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oups.com...
Mo (I'm particularly entrigued by the 4" wind turbine option!)
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Amazed that the turbine is only $50. Can I order one of them without this
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"in2minds" wrote in :

I know, I know... "don't buy one" but SWMBO has her claws well and truly
dug in (c;

looking for the cheapest place to buy a basic Saniflo macerator, best
price I've found (online) is £250 inc vat & delivery from Plum Warehouse

thanks
LJ




Well I fitted a Sanisplit about 3 months ago and it's been fine. It's a
much better design than the Saniflo and I've not had any trouble yet. Come
the day I do, it's design means you don't have a massive clean up operation
after.

I bought it from Plumbingworld (http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/) and I went
for the pan only version because soap and hair, apparently, is a big
blocker of macerators, so I wasn't going to feed a sink into it.