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mogga November 26th 04 01:18 PM

recycling old keys
 
Did I dream it or have I really seen a key recycling container
somewhere...?

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Dave Plowman (News) November 26th 04 01:36 PM

In article ,
mogga wrote:
Did I dream it or have I really seen a key recycling container
somewhere...?


The metal recycling skip at your local tip? For steel ones, certainly.

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Stefek Zaba November 26th 04 02:27 PM

mogga wrote:
Did I dream it or have I really seen a key recycling container
somewhere...?

Well, there's this round building with an 'ole in the middle somewhere
near a racecourse and whose nearest city centre is full of faded-glory
Regency architecture which is always happy to receive old keys,
specially if they've been used to protect anything interesting ;-)

Broadback November 26th 04 02:43 PM

Stefek Zaba wrote:

mogga wrote:

Did I dream it or have I really seen a key recycling container
somewhere...?

Well, there's this round building with an 'ole in the middle somewhere
near a racecourse and whose nearest city centre is full of faded-glory
Regency architecture which is always happy to receive old keys,
specially if they've been used to protect anything interesting ;-)

Reminds me of Blue Peter, one year they appealed for old keys (they are
mainly brass, or were then). Worked a treat, problem was the kids were
filching all their parents keys, caused some mayhem! :-)

Andy Burns November 26th 04 04:10 PM

mogga wrote:

Did I dream it or have I really seen a key recycling container
somewhere...?


Did it have instructions to attach an address label to each key so they
can write to "thank" you?





Graham Anstey November 26th 04 04:50 PM

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:18:12 +0000, mogga
wrote:

Did I dream it or have I really seen a key recycling container
somewhere...?


Yes, eBay...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...8890 581&rd=1

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jacob November 26th 04 07:32 PM

Old keys are highly sort after by joiners,antique restorers and of
course locksmiths. We accumulate old locks and other fittings but the
keys are always missing. Boxes of old keys at auctions often get good
money. Don't throw them away!

cheers

Jacob

mogga November 26th 04 10:16 PM

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:10:02 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

mogga wrote:

Did I dream it or have I really seen a key recycling container
somewhere...?


Did it have instructions to attach an address label to each key so they
can write to "thank" you?




Nah, I have this vague memory of somewhere like a keycutters having a
box in...

I do have some oldish ones and I'm loath to just bin them...

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PaPaPeng November 27th 04 04:53 AM

On 26 Nov 2004 18:16:05 -0800, (N. Thornton) wrote:


Cutting your own keys is simple and quick if you have an angle
grinder. I imagine at least some unwanted keys could be trimmed down
to fit existing locks - never tried it though. Definitely something
for the frugal folk.


There is a special metal bevelled key cutter wheel you will have to
get. The cut notch angle is standard for keys. An angle grinder
wheel had a thick rounded rim for safety (won't shatter that easily)
and is not fine enough to cut keys. Do it the primitive way. Use the
vise to clamp the blank, aka the one to be recycled, side by side with
the key to be duplicated. Then use a triangle file to file down the
excesss material.

Bill Bonde ( ``And the Lamb lies down on Broadway' November 27th 04 07:41 AM



PaPaPeng wrote:

On 26 Nov 2004 18:16:05 -0800, (N. Thornton) wrote:

Cutting your own keys is simple and quick if you have an angle
grinder. I imagine at least some unwanted keys could be trimmed down
to fit existing locks - never tried it though. Definitely something
for the frugal folk.


There is a special metal bevelled key cutter wheel you will have to
get. The cut notch angle is standard for keys. An angle grinder
wheel had a thick rounded rim for safety (won't shatter that easily)
and is not fine enough to cut keys. Do it the primitive way. Use the
vise to clamp the blank, aka the one to be recycled, side by side with
the key to be duplicated. Then use a triangle file to file down the
excesss material.

I've done this. I didn't have a key so I had to pick the lock and then
take it apart to look at the top of the pins and then file down until
they were even. The big problem is getting the blanks. Apparently they
aren't supposed to sell them to you uncut, I don't know what they are
worried about. I've heard you can fill in the grooves with a brazing
torch on used keys that are correct for your lock.

Also, I've seen people who cut one side of the key for one of their cars
and the other for the other. I expect this doesn't work on locks that
have two sets of pins, but otherwise should work for cars with keys that
work when put in either way.


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N. Thornton November 27th 04 12:41 PM

PaPaPeng wrote in message . ..
On 26 Nov 2004 18:16:05 -0800, (N. Thornton) wrote:


Cutting your own keys is simple and quick if you have an angle
grinder. I imagine at least some unwanted keys could be trimmed down
to fit existing locks - never tried it though. Definitely something
for the frugal folk.


There is a special metal bevelled key cutter wheel you will have to
get. The cut notch angle is standard for keys. An angle grinder
wheel had a thick rounded rim for safety (won't shatter that easily)
and is not fine enough to cut keys. Do it the primitive way. Use the
vise to clamp the blank, aka the one to be recycled, side by side with
the key to be duplicated. Then use a triangle file to file down the
excesss material.


I cut some keys recently with an angle grinder, came out perfect and
took 1 to 2 minutes per key.

NT

Joel M. Eichen November 27th 04 12:53 PM

On 27 Nov 2004 04:41:04 -0800, (N. Thornton) wrote:

PaPaPeng wrote in message . ..
On 26 Nov 2004 18:16:05 -0800,
(N. Thornton) wrote:


Cutting your own keys is simple and quick if you have an angle
grinder. I imagine at least some unwanted keys could be trimmed down
to fit existing locks - never tried it though. Definitely something
for the frugal folk.


There is a special metal bevelled key cutter wheel you will have to
get. The cut notch angle is standard for keys. An angle grinder
wheel had a thick rounded rim for safety (won't shatter that easily)
and is not fine enough to cut keys. Do it the primitive way. Use the
vise to clamp the blank, aka the one to be recycled, side by side with
the key to be duplicated. Then use a triangle file to file down the
excesss material.


I cut some keys recently with an angle grinder, came out perfect and
took 1 to 2 minutes per key.

NT


Cool. Whenever I get keys cut from new blanks, they rarely work!


Joel



George November 27th 04 05:41 PM


"Joel M. Eichen" wrote in message
...

Cool. Whenever I get keys cut from new blanks, they rarely work!


Joel

The answer for that is to go to a different place to get them cut. The
cutting machine is just a basic lathe and there is no reason for that if
they care and keep it calibrated. The worst keys I ever got were from the
local wally. They were off by .040" and would not work at all.



PaPaPeng November 27th 04 06:29 PM

On 27 Nov 2004 04:41:04 -0800, (N. Thornton) wrote:


I cut some keys recently with an angle grinder, came out perfect and
took 1 to 2 minutes per key.


Are you using a hand grinder? What size of angle grinder is yours and
what is the thickness and diameter of your grinding wheel? Weblinks?

I am a tool junkie and fairly familair with tools. But I can't
picture how a regular hand grinder, I am making a presumption here,
could be used to duplicate keys. A Dremel tool with a small grinder
wheel might work. But the wear on a Dremel wheel costs a lot more
than a shop made duplicate key and is not really worth the effort.

SoCalMike November 27th 04 06:57 PM

PaPaPeng wrote:

On 27 Nov 2004 04:41:04 -0800, (N. Thornton) wrote:


I cut some keys recently with an angle grinder, came out perfect and
took 1 to 2 minutes per key.



Are you using a hand grinder? What size of angle grinder is yours and
what is the thickness and diameter of your grinding wheel? Weblinks?

I am a tool junkie and fairly familair with tools. But I can't
picture how a regular hand grinder, I am making a presumption here,
could be used to duplicate keys. A Dremel tool with a small grinder
wheel might work. But the wear on a Dremel wheel costs a lot more
than a shop made duplicate key and is not really worth the effort.


or even possibly an air grinder. the angle grinder i use has grinding
disks that are about a quarter inch thick. the air grinder disks are a
bit thinner.

N. Thornton November 27th 04 07:32 PM

Joel M. Eichen wrote in message . ..
On 27 Nov 2004 04:41:04 -0800, (N. Thornton) wrote:


I cut some keys recently with an angle grinder, came out perfect and
took 1 to 2 minutes per key.

NT


Cool. Whenever I get keys cut from new blanks, they rarely work!


Joel


Thats odd. I'd try another locksmith!

NT

veteran November 29th 04 06:20 PM

In article ,
PaPaPeng wrote:

Cutting your own keys is simple and quick if you have an angle
grinder. I imagine at least some unwanted keys could be trimmed down
to fit existing locks - never tried it though. Definitely something
for the frugal folk.


I attack from the other direction. I buy only Qwik-set locks. usually
at yard sales. they enable you to set the lock to use the existing
keys you have. I was a landlord at the time and had to change locks
of the rentals, once and a while.
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[email protected] November 30th 04 09:21 AM

In uk.d-i-y veteran wrote:

I attack from the other direction. I buy only Qwik-set locks. usually
at yard sales. they enable you to set the lock to use the existing
keys you have. I was a landlord at the time and had to change locks
of the rentals, once and a while.


"once and a while." ???

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