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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 01:01:50 -0000, "IMM" wrote:
Most regard email as a distraction and some warn employees if they receive email from outside. I don't know where you get that from. I friend SMSed me last week and said send no emails as suspensions will be given out if none work emails are received. A major bank. If you think about it, that's highly odd. Most large organisations have SPAM filtering as an internal or outsourced service. They could, I suppose, implement restrictions on email from addresses outside their organisation from coming in. I could understand if a company wanted to implement a policy of not wanting employees to *send* personal emails, but to have one of not being allowed to *receive* them seems rather odd. It would be rather like saying that it's your fault if somebody puts something through your letter box. I agree that banks may be different to some other organisations, especially if they are using anything from Microsoft. I have found some who have internal-only email systems in certain departments. Some governmental organisations do this as well. However, broadly speaking, the main concerns are with security, virus and spam issues in most companies in my experience. -- ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:47:44 -0000, ":::Jerry::::"
wrote: "Frank Erskine" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 01:12:49 +0000, Andy Hall wrote: The Internet is far from being an enhanced service, it is absolutely core and fundamental to business today and even to the creaking public sector. Bull****. The vast majority of organisations (IME) treat the Internet (especially email) as some sort of toy - they don't treat either websites or email as a serious means of getting messages across. Very true, I knew of one company who banned the one person who's job would have been both easier and more efficient from using email, many of the reps used their own personal ISP email accounts to do what should have been done through the business. The company web site, although extolling the companies services / products, does not (the last time I bothered to look at the site) have any online broaches, just an invitation to contact the sales team on a telephone number - This from one a large player in that particular field of business, go figure... They are still around, although the numbers are dwindling, and the companies themselves will dwindle as their communications become less and less effective. 25 years ago, the telex was the defacto method of written business communication where something faster than the post was needed. As soon as fax machines became widespread and acceptable as legally/commercially binding, telex died a death almost everywhere. With electronic signature on emails etc., fax is not as important as it was. I guess that about 1% max of my business communications happen by fax, if that and even less by postal mail. -- ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
Andy Hall wrote:
They are still around, although the numbers are dwindling, and the companies themselves will dwindle as their communications become less and less effective. It is also worth distinguishing between a companies use of email as a part of the running of its day to day business, and its use as a communications tool with its customers. Many are very good at the former, but still lacking at the later. I know at one of our clients (a large multinational comms company), email is a fundamental part of the day to day comms within the business, and between subcontractors etc. However their web site is so poor, you would be hard pushed to even identify more than 10% of their product range, or even the full range of markets they are able to sell relevant services and products into. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:49:09 -0000, "IMM" wrote: "Andy Hall" wrote in message - Email messages (with SPAM excluded) already outnumber postal paper mail by a factor of over ten to one. Most of those are tittle tattle, not real business communication. Yours might fall into that category; but it isn't my observation at all. It is true that putting up a web site is by no stretch of the imagination an indicator of business success - proper business modelling is still required - but even with the 'back to reality' that happened a couple of years ago there is still massive uptake in the use of the internet for business purposes. I can assure you that organisations are spending vast sums on this technology area and are quite aware of the business and competitive benefits of so doing. Detailed, easy to navigate, up to date and simply explained web sites do sell products. If people can download all your product, installation or technical manuals you have an advantage. Customer service can be having all the old product manuals on line too. This gives a very positive impression. True points, although they don't replace having a sound business strategy and execution of it. The graveyards are littered with the corpses of dotcoms who thought that having a web site would automatically lead to fame and riches. ..coms only do business via the web. I am on about a normal established business. If all your products and services are on the web in detail with nice piccies then you have an advantage. Much research is done via the web. Also anyone who doing some research and find that a company does not have its products on the web, they are regarded as backwards and are often eliminated from any purchasing. The companies that do brochures will also do, or farm out, the web site too. |
":::Jerry::::" wrote in message ... "Frank Erskine" wrote in message ... On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 01:12:49 +0000, Andy Hall wrote: The Internet is far from being an enhanced service, it is absolutely core and fundamental to business today and even to the creaking public sector. Bull****. The vast majority of organisations (IME) treat the Internet (especially email) as some sort of toy - they don't treat either websites or email as a serious means of getting messages across. Very true, I knew of one company who banned the one person who's job would have been both easier and more efficient from using email, many of the reps used their own personal ISP email accounts to do what should have been done through the business. The company web site, although extolling the companies services / products, does not (the last time I bothered to look at the site) have any online broaches, just an invitation to contact the sales team on a telephone number If a company has a bull**** web site. The ones that say nothing at all except that they have a web site, are treated with suspicion, as it looks as it they have something to hide. |
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IMM wrote: If people can download all your product, installation or technical manuals you have an advantage. You certainly make an 'advantage' out of this. ;-) -- *The first rule of holes: If you are in one, stop digging! Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:47:44 -0000, ":::Jerry::::" wrote: "Frank Erskine" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 01:12:49 +0000, Andy Hall wrote: The Internet is far from being an enhanced service, it is absolutely core and fundamental to business today and even to the creaking public sector. Bull****. The vast majority of organisations (IME) treat the Internet (especially email) as some sort of toy - they don't treat either websites or email as a serious means of getting messages across. Very true, I knew of one company who banned the one person who's job would have been both easier and more efficient from using email, many of the reps used their own personal ISP email accounts to do what should have been done through the business. The company web site, although extolling the companies services / products, does not (the last time I bothered to look at the site) have any online broaches, just an invitation to contact the sales team on a telephone number - This from one a large player in that particular field of business, go figure... They are still around, although the numbers are dwindling, and the companies themselves will dwindle as their communications become less and less effective. The thing about the above company is, it's growing despite not making full use of the internet etc. Trouble is, it makes up for in-efficiencies in the board-room by screwing those who work elsewhere in the company, especially those who bring in the business and those who provide the service direct to the end user - hence AIUI the company has a high turnover of staff in those departments. 25 years ago, the telex was the defacto method of written business communication where something faster than the post was needed. As soon as fax machines became widespread and acceptable as legally/commercially binding, telex died a death almost everywhere. Only because better alternatives arrived, same day courier and better computer networks and the fax (Telex was and is severely limited, as it's name implies, unlike systems that came after). With electronic signature on emails etc., fax is not as important as it was. I guess that about 1% max of my business communications happen by fax, if that and even less by postal mail. Is any done by courier though, such as legal documents ? |
"John Rumm" wrote in message ... Andy Hall wrote: They are still around, although the numbers are dwindling, and the companies themselves will dwindle as their communications become less and less effective. It is also worth distinguishing between a companies use of email as a part of the running of its day to day business, and its use as a communications tool with its customers. Many are very good at the former, but still lacking at the later. Yes, in the example I gave the company does most of it's internal coms via email, but out going / in coming email is very slight and strictly limited (AIUI) to a couple of directors and the IT manager. |
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , IMM wrote: If people can download all your product, installation or technical manuals you have an advantage. You certainly make an 'advantage' out of this. ;-) Intelligent people take the easy way. |
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:41:39 -0000, "IMM" wrote:
":::Jerry::::" wrote in message ... "Frank Erskine" wrote in message ... On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 01:12:49 +0000, Andy Hall wrote: The Internet is far from being an enhanced service, it is absolutely core and fundamental to business today and even to the creaking public sector. Bull****. The vast majority of organisations (IME) treat the Internet (especially email) as some sort of toy - they don't treat either websites or email as a serious means of getting messages across. Very true, I knew of one company who banned the one person who's job would have been both easier and more efficient from using email, many of the reps used their own personal ISP email accounts to do what should have been done through the business. The company web site, although extolling the companies services / products, does not (the last time I bothered to look at the site) have any online broaches, just an invitation to contact the sales team on a telephone number If a company has a bull**** web site. The ones that say nothing at all except that they have a web site, are treated with suspicion, as it looks as it they have something to hide. .... or are incompetent. Nowadays I avoid doing business with a company if they can't take payment by credit card or BACS transfer. If they still need to process paper cheques then they are wasting money on administration and it is symbolic of an archaic approach to business and likel;y poor service. -- ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:39:14 -0000, "IMM" wrote:
.coms only do business via the web. I am on about a normal established business. I understand, although a lot are doing both. It's true that quite a number of dotcoms had untenable business models although quite a few have worked - Amazon being a classic example. In that scenario, in the U.S., Barnes and Noble was a case in point of a bricks and mortar outfit who initially refused to have anything to do with e-commerce. They lost business hand over fist. Now they have recovered somewhat, but were slow to realise the impact of the internet. In our geography, WHSmith would be an example except that their shop business has been a cockup for 20 years or more anyway. If all your products and services are on the web in detail with nice piccies then you have an advantage. Much research is done via the web. Also anyone who doing some research and find that a company does not have its products on the web, they are regarded as backwards and are often eliminated from any purchasing. I completely agree provided that the product or service is worth having and differentiated in other ways as well. The companies that do brochures will also do, or farm out, the web site too. -- ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
"IMM" wrote in message ... "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , IMM wrote: If people can download all your product, installation or technical manuals you have an advantage. You certainly make an 'advantage' out of this. ;-) Intelligent people take the easy way and go to college (or what ever), the rest content themselves with reading the makes bumph and dreaming.... |
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... snip Nowadays I avoid doing business with a company if they can't take payment by credit card or BACS transfer. snip You might like to ponder the words of the bloke who set up the computer system used by Scotland Yards anti 'electronic fraud' department, apparently in an interview given early this week (or possibly last week) he states that he would not give out his CC details on line even via so called secure servers as most can be hacked. |
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:39:14 -0000, "IMM" wrote: .coms only do business via the web. I am on about a normal established business. I understand, although a lot are doing both. It's true that quite a number of dotcoms had untenable business models although quite a few have worked - Amazon being a classic example. And they were the first. In that scenario, in the U.S., Barnes and Noble was a case in point of a bricks and mortar outfit who initially refused to have anything to do with e-commerce. They lost business hand over fist. Now they have recovered somewhat, but were slow to realise the impact of the internet. In our geography, WHSmith would be an example except that their shop business has been a cockup for 20 years or more anyway. If all your products and services are on the web in detail with nice piccies then you have an advantage. Much research is done via the web. Also anyone who doing some research and find that a company does not have its products on the web, they are regarded as backwards and are often eliminated from any purchasing. I completely agree provided that the product or service is worth having and differentiated in other ways as well. The companies that do brochures will also do, or farm out, the web site too. -- .andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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IMM wrote: If people can download all your product, installation or technical manuals you have an advantage. You certainly make an 'advantage' out of this. ;-) Intelligent people take the easy way. And dishonest people pass it off as their own work. -- *It doesn't take a genius to spot a goat in a flock of sheep * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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:::Jerry:::: wrote: Nowadays I avoid doing business with a company if they can't take payment by credit card or BACS transfer. snip You might like to ponder the words of the bloke who set up the computer system used by Scotland Yards anti 'electronic fraud' department, apparently in an interview given early this week (or possibly last week) he states that he would not give out his CC details on line even via so called secure servers as most can be hacked. Think he also mentioned this revolved around the use of Windows without a firewall. -- *It is wrong to ever split an infinitive * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , IMM wrote: If people can download all your product, installation or technical manuals you have an advantage. You certainly make an 'advantage' out of this. ;-) Intelligent people take the easy way. And dishonest people pass it off as their own work. This is madness on the Internet, a graphic example. |
":::Jerry::::" wrote in message ... "IMM" wrote in message ... "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , IMM wrote: If people can download all your product, installation or technical manuals you have an advantage. You certainly make an 'advantage' out of this. ;-) Intelligent people take the easy way and go to college (or what ever), the rest content themselves with reading the makes bumph and dreaming.... Too true. |
"Andy Hall" wrote
| I'm less bothered about GPs, although IME, they don't run | at all efficiently. GPs are private sector under contract to the NHS. | I am not sure what you include in public health. Public health is things like infectious disease notification and control, mass immunisation, epidemiology etc. Owain |
IMM wrote:
It's true that quite a number of dotcoms had untenable business models although quite a few have worked - Amazon being a classic example. And they were the first. More to the point, they were the fist that you remember... In the UK at least there were quite a number of other bookshops online that were here before. How many of those do you remember? (IIRC The Internetbook Shop was quite good before it was bought by WH Smith!) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
:::Jerry:::: wrote:
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... snip Nowadays I avoid doing business with a company if they can't take payment by credit card or BACS transfer. snip You might like to ponder the words of the bloke who set up the computer system used by Scotland Yards anti 'electronic fraud' department, apparently in an interview given early this week (or possibly last week) he states that he would not give out his CC details on line even via so called secure servers as most can be hacked. If he were thinking that through logically, then he would also never hand over a cc in a shop or resteraunt, or use it over the phone. All of the old manual processes are equally (or more) susceptable to fraud as an online transaction. Online, the transaction itself is probably more secure, however you have all the same vulberabilities after the transaction with the storing, retention, and processing of the data. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , :::Jerry:::: wrote: Nowadays I avoid doing business with a company if they can't take payment by credit card or BACS transfer. snip You might like to ponder the words of the bloke who set up the computer system used by Scotland Yards anti 'electronic fraud' department, apparently in an interview given early this week (or possibly last week) he states that he would not give out his CC details on line even via so called secure servers as most can be hacked. Think he also mentioned this revolved around the use of Windows without a firewall. But who's firewall, client or server, if the former then his words have less impact but if it's the server side.... |
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:18:32 -0000, ":::Jerry::::"
wrote: "Andy Hall" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:47:44 -0000, ":::Jerry::::" wrote: "Frank Erskine" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 01:12:49 +0000, Andy Hall wrote: The Internet is far from being an enhanced service, it is absolutely core and fundamental to business today and even to the creaking public sector. Bull****. The vast majority of organisations (IME) treat the Internet (especially email) as some sort of toy - they don't treat either websites or email as a serious means of getting messages across. Very true, I knew of one company who banned the one person who's job would have been both easier and more efficient from using email, many of the reps used their own personal ISP email accounts to do what should have been done through the business. The company web site, although extolling the companies services / products, does not (the last time I bothered to look at the site) have any online broaches, just an invitation to contact the sales team on a telephone number - This from one a large player in that particular field of business, go figure... They are still around, although the numbers are dwindling, and the companies themselves will dwindle as their communications become less and less effective. The thing about the above company is, it's growing despite not making full use of the internet etc. Trouble is, it makes up for in-efficiencies in the board-room by screwing those who work elsewhere in the company, especially those who bring in the business and those who provide the service direct to the end user - hence AIUI the company has a high turnover of staff in those departments. Silly situation. Eventually it will fail. This kind of policy is indicative that there are probably lots of other broken things in the business. Presumably they are maintaining their market position by trading on former glories or having something unique or almost unique in the market? 25 years ago, the telex was the defacto method of written business communication where something faster than the post was needed. As soon as fax machines became widespread and acceptable as legally/commercially binding, telex died a death almost everywhere. Only because better alternatives arrived, same day courier and better computer networks and the fax (Telex was and is severely limited, as it's name implies, unlike systems that came after). With electronic signature on emails etc., fax is not as important as it was. I guess that about 1% max of my business communications happen by fax, if that and even less by postal mail. Is any done by courier though, such as legal documents ? There is the DX system that the legal and banking organisations seem to use - I don't need to do that type of stuff though..... -- ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
":::Jerry::::" wrote
| With electronic signature on emails etc., fax is not as | important as it was. I guess that about 1% max of my | business communications happen by fax, if that and even | less by postal mail. | Is any done by courier though, such as legal documents ? Legal documents between solicitors (and some other organisations eg local councils will usually have at least one mailbox) are sent using private mail networks (Rutland Exchange/HaysDX/LegalPost). Staff take outgoing documents to the local hub (in Scotland this is known as 'ruttling') and collect incoming, and each member has their own lockable mailbox at the hub together with boxes for mail ongoing to other parts of the network, which is handled by courier. Organisations are charged for use of the exchange annually depending on their assessed use, and it is known that Royal Mail DataPost use peaks every time an assessment week for the exchange comes round :-) I don't know if there's a special sticker on the envelope or if anyone could drop something into the system if they found a mailbox. Owain |
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:18:32 -0000, ":::Jerry::::" wrote: snip The thing about the above company is, it's growing despite not making full use of the internet etc. Trouble is, it makes up for in-efficiencies in the board-room by screwing those who work elsewhere in the company, especially those who bring in the business and those who provide the service direct to the end user - hence AIUI the company has a high turnover of staff in those departments. Silly situation. Eventually it will fail. This kind of policy is indicative that there are probably lots of other broken things in the business. Presumably they are maintaining their market position by trading on former glories or having something unique or almost unique in the market? No, they are providing nothing special in terms of product, equal to the competition but nothing special, the point is they offer a total package. The problem is that in doing so they are tending to screw the first and last people the customer deals with. AIUI, other than a blip due to 9/11 they are still expanding - perhaps you are right, their bubble will burst. |
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writes On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:39:14 -0000, "IMM" wrote: I completely agree provided that the product or service is worth having and differentiated in other ways as well. So, out of interest, what does anybody think of my website www.cetltd.com ? I would appreciate any constructive comments -- geoff |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , IMM wrote: If people can download all your product, installation or technical manuals you have an advantage. You certainly make an 'advantage' out of this. ;-) Intelligent people take the easy way. And dishonest people pass it off as their own work. This is madness on the Internet, a graphic example. So where is your website DIMM ? -- geoff |
raden wrote:
So, out of interest, what does anybody think of my website www.cetltd.com ? I would appreciate any constructive comments I think it is actually quite good. If I go through a list of common annoyances with web sites in general, there are none that you implement! Positives: It explains what the business does and what products and services you offer. Written in clear english without excess marketing bull It's is easy to find contact information, Works on all browsers, Not reliant on flash (in any sense of the word), Pages load quickly Navigation is simple Colours and fonts sensibly chosen Minor Niggles: Images lack alternate text descriptions (but there are unlikely to be that many partially sighted boiler repair people out there - so not that much of an issue) Since the picture can be an important part of helping someone identify a part (or at least gain reassurance they are ordering the right thing) it could do with more pictures of the products. Currently the thumbnails display mostly says "not got pictures of much really!" (I might tone down the green on the missing picture thumbnail at bit as well). From a web deveopers perspective, I would be tempted to obscure the mailto link so that it is not so readily harvested by spam bots (most of which read the text of the site without interpreting the html) so something like: a href="mailto:info@cetltd.com?Parts%20Enquiry" Contact Us/a should work just the same as your current contact link, but is not as readily harvested. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
raden wrote:
In message , IMM writes "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , IMM wrote: If people can download all your product, installation or technical manuals you have an advantage. You certainly make an 'advantage' out of this. ;-) Intelligent people take the easy way. And dishonest people pass it off as their own work. This is madness on the Internet, a graphic example. So where is your website DIMM ? He can't even type english, so can you imagine what a browser would make of his html? -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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raden wrote: This is madness on the Internet, a graphic example. So where is your website DIMM ? He'd get sued for copyright infringement? -- *Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
"John Rumm" wrote
| Minor Niggles: | Images lack alternate text descriptions (but there are unlikely | to be that many partially sighted boiler repair people out | there - so not that much of an issue) There are plenty of people who browse with images off anyway, and even though there may not be many partially sighted boiler repair people there could be boiler repair people who've got partially sighted people doing their research and purchasing. Owain |
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raden wrote: So, out of interest, what does anybody think of my website www.cetltd.com ? I would appreciate any constructive comments I've got one very basic browser (Netsurf) which is great for glancing at sites for information purposes as it renders near instantly. And your site delivers the 'bones' just fine on it. Works well on my other two RISC OS browsers as well. So I'd say it is accessible to anyone on any platform without problems. I'm always surprised at the number of sites designed as a service to a customer - and therefore to help sell a product - that are made inaccessible to many because of the totally unnecessary use of the latest plug in gizmo all in the name of 'design'. And those that use stupid ideas like black text on a dark background - or across some graphic - making it near impossible or tiring to read. Just love the ones that pop up saying 'this site is best viewed on IE whatever' Would RS Components be best pleased if their site had a pop up saying 'you'd be better off buying from CPS'? -- *And don't start a sentence with a conjunction * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
"raden" wrote in message ... In message , Andy Hall writes On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:39:14 -0000, "IMM" wrote: I completely agree provided that the product or service is worth having and differentiated in other ways as well. So, out of interest, what does anybody think of my website www.cetltd.com ? I would appreciate any constructive comments Open your browser and load your site, then turn of images and reload, does the site still make sense and would it make sense to someone who had never visited it before. Also if what you see is being spoken to you via a text to speech browser would it make sense [1]. I also think you shouldn't be choosing text sizes, if you want to do that then do so via a style sheet (either embedded or linked), then the visitor can decide if your suggested text size is OK for *them* - otherwise they can refuse your suggestion and chose their own IYSWIM. Apart from the above I have no pressing issues, other than the automatic redirect on the default opening page, you invite people to read the intro and follow one of the supplied URL but far to quickly IMO take them on to another page that could have contained the introduction anyway ! [1] bearing in mind that images without an alt description could well have the images src URL read out instead. |
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , raden wrote: This is madness on the Internet, a graphic example. So where is your website DIMM ? He'd get sued for copyright infringement? Can you get sued for a redirect ?..... |
"raden" wrote in message ... In message , IMM writes "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , IMM wrote: If people can download all your product, installation or technical manuals you have an advantage. You certainly make an 'advantage' out of this. ;-) Intelligent people take the easy way. And dishonest people pass it off as their own work. This is madness on the Internet, a graphic example. So where is your website DIMM ? Yes where is Dim Lin, the Oriental Enchantresses web site? Good point Maxie. |
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , raden wrote: This is madness on the Internet, a graphic example. So where is your website DIMM ? He'd get sued for copyright infringement? What a diork! Dim Lin is a bird. An Oriental enchantress. |
"raden" wrote in message ... In message , Andy Hall writes On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:39:14 -0000, "IMM" wrote: I completely agree provided that the product or service is worth having and differentiated in other ways as well. So, out of interest, what does anybody think of my website www.cetltd.com ? I would appreciate any constructive comments Maxie. The opening is cluttered. I have tightened and smartened it up for you. The itemised parts you services are now clear and in order and would be better in bold to grab the readers eye. Alos he now knows that you have the part and can have it the next day, or the same day if he visits your place. ________ Control Engineering Technology repair and recondition: - Printed circuit boards - Controls - Fans - Timers - Actuators for central heating boilers. Trading since 1993, Control Engineering Technology do extensive work for large service companies. However, we supply to anyone giving a cost effective alternative to new boiler parts. Browse the product range and view our competitive prices. If the part you are looking for is not listed, it doesn't mean that we can't supply it, so contact us. What is listed is in stock unless stated. If in stock, parts can be collected from our premises, or next day delivery. All items are covered by a 12 month guarantee. All prices exclude VAT and delivery. Contact Control Enfineering Technology for more details. ______________ Your pcbs and modules should state what boiler models they are applicable. A customer seeing pcb number, 1234/abc, will not know that is for a say W-B Junior. He only knows his boiler make and model. Or put in the models you know it is applicable to, and say "amongst others", and when you learn of other models insert them. Make it easy for them. You may do many parts, but don't have a particular part in stock. This should be clear that you do it, but an "out of stock contact us" should accompany the part description. |
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IMM wrote: Maxie. The opening is cluttered. I have tightened and smartened it up for you. The very thought of you taking a hacksaw to prose... -- *Born free...Taxed to death. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
raden wrote: I would appreciate any constructive comments Very nice. A simple map might be useful for people trying to find you. I found that the picture of this product Stelrad - Pcb Product Name : Stelrad Elan. Description : 7A (60550) Notes : 50550 GC Number : 319035 would not display more than the top 1" , when using Mozilla. Don't know why. Hope this helps. Regards Capitol |
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writes In article , raden wrote: So, out of interest, what does anybody think of my website www.cetltd.com ? I would appreciate any constructive comments I've got one very basic browser (Netsurf) which is great for glancing at sites for information purposes as it renders near instantly. And your site delivers the 'bones' just fine on it. Works well on my other two RISC OS browsers as well. So I'd say it is accessible to anyone on any platform without problems. I'm always surprised at the number of sites designed as a service to a customer - and therefore to help sell a product - that are made inaccessible to many because of the totally unnecessary use of the latest plug in gizmo all in the name of 'design'. And those that use stupid ideas like black text on a dark background - or across some graphic - making it near impossible or tiring to read. Just love the ones that pop up saying 'this site is best viewed on IE whatever' Would RS Components be best pleased if their site had a pop up saying 'you'd be better off buying from CPS'? Or CPC even ... -- geoff |
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