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Be glad for part P
One thing is that if any arsehole ask for electricial work doing on
the side i can polietly tell them i cannot do it. People expect u to carry out skilled time consuming work for next to nothing at there beck and call. When part P comes into force they will have to dig deep into there pockets to pay an approved contractor to carry out the works. Such as recently i was going to do a partial rewire of a house so i bought some materials ready for the job but the arsehole client decides that he doesnt want it doing anymore. Wont ever be doing any odd jobs from now on i shall be sticking to my streetlighting and doing no electricial work outside of working hours. Jon. |
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"John Southern" wrote in message om... One thing is that if any arsehole ask for electricial work doing on the side i can polietly tell them i cannot do it. People expect u to carry out skilled time consuming work for next to nothing at there beck and call. When part P comes into force they will have to dig deep into there pockets to pay an approved contractor to carry out the works. Such as recently i was going to do a partial rewire of a house so i bought some materials ready for the job but the arsehole client decides that he doesnt want it doing anymore. Wont ever be doing any odd jobs from now on i shall be sticking to my streetlighting and doing no electricial work outside of working hours. Jon. Very well done, good man, an example to us all. Thanks for sharing. |
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:19:49 -0700, John Southern wrote:
One thing is that if any arsehole ask for electricial work doing on the side i can polietly tell them i cannot do it. People expect u to carry out skilled time consuming work for next to nothing at there beck and call. When part P comes into force they will have to dig deep into there pockets to pay an approved contractor to carry out the works. Such as recently i was going to do a partial rewire of a house so i bought some materials ready for the job but the arsehole client decides that he doesnt want it doing anymore. Wont ever be doing any odd jobs from now on i shall be sticking to my streetlighting and doing no electricial work outside of working hours. Jon. [major OT rant coming] Mate, I sympathise... Try being a computer specialist: programmer/sysadmin/hardware bod/network admin/web designer... doesn't matter. I'm a Linux systems programmer/admin, but it's all the same to them... All it is is "oo, he's into computers..." "INTO" - WTF is that!? I've spent over 20 years learning my trade... And still do as it's ever changing... Imagine Jon, someone saying "oo, you're into 'electrics'" then asking you to fix the TV/put a plug on/set up their home cinema/rewire the entire house. Oh, and you have to use all the B&Q "value" parts they already bought themselves because "there was this sale, you see..." And they never bothered to read the instructions, because "it's hard" and after all, "we knew you were into electrics". Pah. Anyway, soon as someone gets a wiff, it's "my computer's broken... Could you have a look?" Or "my random associate's daughter's friend's computer is being a bit slow..." Erm, no. So far this year I've had to fix/reinstall far too many random worm infested PCs running MicroBloody**** Windoze in my road alone this year (did I say I'm a Linux specialist - it's not without reason...) Each one can take a full day - that adds up fast. And they always want something else looked at, just when you think it's all done. And the parents'. And the wife's friends'. Now, I'm not a tight sod ordinarily. Parents deserve help. Neighbours are nice and I can call on some quid-pro-quo from their specialisms. But it does get a bit much. I've even been probed at funerals for advice FFS. They *need* a Part W (Wazzock) for Computer Ownership along the lines of: "Are you a Wazzock who will buy a piece of crud from Tiny (=Yugo) just because it came with a free dodgey printer, 5 "lite" (=crap) programs and a feeble excuse for an OS (=WinME) just because the salesoik said it had "Intel inside" (and the cheapest video, nastiest audio and shortest lifed noisiest disk they could find)? Will you then *never* service it (Windows Update - come on, even MS tried to make that easy so a complete 'nana could manage it...) Will you make no effort (not even a tiny bit) to learn at least a little bit about it, treating it instead as a HiFi: "what button makes it do blah???" Will you then connect it to broadband so you can get your pr0n faster and bombard me constantly with the faeces of your worms/viruses/trojans? Look at my Apache Web Server log from last month: ************************************************** ****** access_log.1:81.243.224.135 - - [20/Sep/2004:21:06:42 +0100] "GET /d/winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0" 404 467 "-" "-" access_log.1:81.243.224.135 - - [20/Sep/2004:21:06:42 +0100] "GET /scripts/..%255c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0" 404 481 "-" "-" access_log.1:81.243.224.135 - - [20/Sep/2004:21:06:42 +0100] "GET /_vti_bin/..%255c../..%255c../..%255c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0" 404 498 "-" "-" and so on... ************************************************** ****** Come on, that's getting old now... And that's from Brussels, not the 3rd world... I could start about the standards of "drivers" on the A21 too, but I feel better for a good rant  Timbo |
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"Tim S" wrote in message news 
snip Imagine Jon, someone saying "oo, you're into 'electrics'" then asking you to fix the TV/put a plug on/set up their home cinema/rewire the entire house. Imagine having studied for years and years to achieve some qualification in Electronic Engineering (employed in Radar displays et. al ) and visiting home to hear your mother telling her next door neighbour;- "Oh, Brian will put in a plug(sic) in your washhouse for your new washing machine- he's an electrician!" What do you do? You get out the Rawlplug star drill and start bashing - it was 1964 and life is to too short to try and explain. -- Brian |
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In article , John
Southern writes One thing is that if any arsehole ask for electricial work doing on the side i can polietly tell them i cannot do it. Quite right too. Nobody should be forced to do electricial work, whatever that might be. And remember -- if you're really desperate, a part P is better than no P at all... -- Paul |
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On 13 Oct 2004 09:08:46 GMT, Huge wrote:
"My computer's broken... Could you have a look?" "Sure. I charge =A365/hr." "Blimey, that's a bit steep. Could you do a discount rate for family?" "That *is* the discount rate for family. BTW, what do you do for a living?" "I'm an accountant" "Excellent. Can you come round and do my tax return?" Bingo... should shut most people up when asking for such "favours". -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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"Huge" wrote in message ... Tim S writes: On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:19:49 -0700, John Southern wrote: [10 lines snipped] Jon. [major OT rant coming] [15 lines snipped] Anyway, soon as someone gets a wiff, it's "my computer's broken... Could you have a look?" Or "my random associate's daughter's friend's computer is being a bit slow..." Erm, no. "My computer's broken... Could you have a look?" "Sure. I charge £65/hr." "Blimey, that's a bit steep. Could you do a discount rate for family?" "That *is* the discount rate for family. BTW, what do you do for a living?" "I'm an accountant" "Excellent. Can you come round and do my tax return?" Alternative ending: "That *is* the discount rate for family. BTW, what do you do for a living?" "I work for the Inland Revenue" "Did I say £65/hr? Only joking - here, let me fix it. I'll even throw in a free mouse for you..." |
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In article om, Dave
Liquorice writes On 13 Oct 2004 09:08:46 GMT, Huge wrote: "My computer's broken... Could you have a look?" "Sure. I charge £65/hr." "Blimey, that's a bit steep. Could you do a discount rate for family?" "That *is* the discount rate for family. BTW, what do you do for a living?" "I'm an accountant" "Excellent. Can you come round and do my tax return?" Bingo... should shut most people up when asking for such "favours". Humm... We've got two doctors living either side of us. DO NOT even think about getting any advice from them for free, or outside surgery hours!. Same with the accountant across the road;(( -- Tony Sayer |
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:24:38 +0100, Ric wrote:
Alternative ending: "That *is* the discount rate for family. BTW, what do you do for a living?" "I work for the Inland Revenue" "Did I say £65/hr? Only joking - here, let me fix it. I'll even throw in a free mouse for you..." Nah. For that they'll get the keylogger. "Can you do my Tax Return?" "No" "Does your missus know about www.bigboys.com?" "erk, where's my pen..." |
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"Paul C. Dickie" wrote in message ... In article , John Southern writes One thing is that if any arsehole ask for electricial work doing on the side i can polietly tell them i cannot do it. Quite right too. Nobody should be forced to do electricial work, whatever that might be. And remember -- if you're really desperate, a part P is better than no P at all... -- Paul Try being a Paramedic. If your heart stops then I can help, but everytime you ask for a favour back they never bloody answer. Selfish if you ask me. |
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"Brian Sharrock" wrote in message ... Imagine having studied for years and years to achieve some qualification in Electronic Engineering (employed in Radar displays et. al ) and visiting home to hear your mother telling her next door neighbour;- "Oh, Brian will put in a plug(sic) in your washhouse for your new washing machine- he's an electrician!" What do you do? You get out the Rawlplug star drill and start bashing - it was 1964 and life is to too short to try and explain. Even worse was at one place I worked as an electronics R&D engineer, the Health & Safety moron tried to tell me I wasn't qualified to change a mains plug. |
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G&M wrote:
"Brian Sharrock" wrote in message ... Imagine having studied for years and years to achieve some qualification in Electronic Engineering (employed in Radar displays et. al ) and visiting home to hear your mother telling her next door neighbour;- "Oh, Brian will put in a plug(sic) in your washhouse for your new washing machine- he's an electrician!" What do you do? You get out the Rawlplug star drill and start bashing - it was 1964 and life is to too short to try and explain. Even worse was at one place I worked as an electronics R&D engineer, the Health & Safety moron tried to tell me I wasn't qualified to change a mains plug. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/3736942.stm Basically en emeritus professor of physics from the University of New Mexico has been told he can't carry on teaching at the school he's been at for 2 years because he doesn't have the right bit of paper to say he's got the equivalent of a grade C in GCSE maths. Sometimes I think it's only the paperwork that matters, not the actual job behind it. -- James... www.jameshart.co.uk |
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 07:47:26 GMT, "Brian Sharrock"
wrote: Imagine having studied for years and years to achieve some qualification in Electronic Engineering (employed in Radar displays et. al ) and visiting home to hear your mother telling her next door neighbour;- "Oh, Brian will put in a plug(sic) in your washhouse for your new washing machine- he's an electrician!" My brother had a somewhat more annoying experience - at the time was a senior A&E Registrar in Edinburgh Royal. One weekend while visiting our parents a neighbours child was in the garden and fell quite badly. He picked her up and prodded, pulled, poked and listened before saying she was fine (and curing her by handing her an ice cream) . At this point Mother said to neighbour "Don't you think you had better pop her down to the cottage hospital and let a proper doctor take a look at her". -- Peter Parry. http://www.wpp.ltd.uk/ |
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In message , James Hart
writes http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/3736942.stm Basically en emeritus professor of physics from the University of New Mexico has been told he can't carry on teaching at the school he's been at for 2 years because he doesn't have the right bit of paper to say he's got the equivalent of a grade C in GCSE maths. Sometimes I think it's only the paperwork that matters, not the actual job behind it. Of course. If you're not competent to decide whether to hire someone, what can you do but look at the bits of paper? Having said that, I suspect in this case it was a matter of who he was i.e. American. Racism against Americans appears to be perfectly legal in this country, and almost universal among 'liberals'. -- Joe |
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Kalico wrote: "How much can I give you?" he asks, only to hint that my "Call it 100 quid and owe me one" was akin to me ripping him off. Hell, I never seem to learn. Better way is to get the favour returned in labour - bit of gardening, painting, etc. Works well between friends. -- *If God had wanted me to touch my toes, he would have put them on my knees Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In article , James Hart
writes G&M wrote: Even worse was at one place I worked as an electronics R&D engineer, the Health & Safety moron tried to tell me I wasn't qualified to change a mains plug. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/3736942.stm Basically en emeritus professor of physics from the University of New Mexico has been told he can't carry on teaching at the school he's been at for 2 years because he doesn't have the right bit of paper to say he's got the equivalent of a grade C in GCSE maths. Did Albert Einstein have that qualification? -- Paul |
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In article , Tim
writes On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:24:38 +0100, Ric wrote: "That *is* the discount rate for family. BTW, what do you do for a living?" "I work for the Inland Revenue" "Did I say £65/hr? Only joking - here, let me fix it. I'll even throw in a free mouse for you..." Nah. For that they'll get the keylogger. "Can you do my Tax Return?" "No" "Does your missus know about www.bigboys.com?" quote Here at Stone's Big Boys Toys, we are locally owned and operated and provide products to make your outdoor living easier and more enjoyable. We offer experience, fair prices, and a friendly atmosphere. We're big enough to cover the broad range of equipment needs you may have, yet small enough to greet you on a first-name basis. We offer quality Arctic Cat machines and products. Our goal at Stone's Big Boys Toys is to provide quality products and service at an affordable price. Call or stop in today and see what we can do for you; you'll be glad you did unquote (source: http://www.bigboys.com/) What did you suppose would be on that site -- and *why*? -- Paul |
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