Andrew Gabriel wrote:
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"James" writes:

"VisionSet" wrote in message
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Well it isn't a gable end - it is a party wall.

If we assume it is not up to the weight. What can I do to make it suitable?

Standard 30's construction 4ft void at apex, purlins and rafters.
Brick stretcher party wall in good visual condition, lime mortar.

I have no specialist knowledge, but I wondered if it is possible for the
weight to be taken by the loft floor rather than the wall. I know such
floors are not meant to take weight, but they are nonetheless used to house
equally heavy water tanks. Or does the placement of such tanks rely upon a
structural wall underneath?


I would probably look for a frame which would transfer the weight
to the floor, and position it over a wall (50Kg is not heavy enough
for it to need to be positioned over a structural wall),

I can lift 50Kg easily mate. Are you saying that when I trawl 50kg up te
stairs I am risking life and limb? Well you are not, but others are..

This thread is utter cobbblers.

I've got a 600 liter water tank in my loft. 600kg or over half a ton
when filled.

It sits on the ceiling joists abutting a chimney breast. We did put a
few more braces in. Its fine.

A typical person weighs what - 14 stone? That's 88kg. Are you sure its
safe to walk in your loft?

50kg is just two bags of cement. Its not even enough sand to fill a
wheelbarrow.










or spread
across a few ceiling joists (but not in the middle of a long
unsupported span). Fix it to the party wall and floor.

I've seen something like this used to hold a boiler over a hot water
cylinder to make a single combined unit. You could try asking in a
plumber's merchant if they have such a frame.

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher writes:
I can lift 50Kg easily mate. Are you saying that when I trawl 50kg up te
stairs I am risking life and limb? Well you are not, but others are..

This thread is utter cobbblers.

What you've said seems to bear no relation to this thread,
which is about hanging a 50kg weight 12" out from near the
top of a brick wall (lime mortar in this case).

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Andrew Gabriel

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 17:07:16 GMT, "VisionSet"
wrote:


"VisionSet" wrote in message
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Now I still want to stick this stuff in the loft. A good location for me
is
attached to the party wall. Are these upto supporting 50Kg?


Well it isn't a gable end - it is a party wall.

If we assume it is not up to the weight. What can I do to make it suitable?

Standard 30's construction 4ft void at apex, purlins and rafters.
Brick stretcher party wall in good visual condition, lime mortar.

Hi,

The worst case scenario is that someone working on the boiler looses
their footing and grabs onto it, pulling with thier full weight.

Resin anchors into engineering blocks would be OK, but not any old
fixings into soft bricks.

Do the boiler manufacturers offer any advice on fixing the boiler in
that particular situation?

One way to get a stronger fixing is a couple of 2x4 or bigger vertical
bearers, that are bracketed to the rafters at the top and a cross
bearer at the bottom, as well as bolted to the wall. The boiler could
then be fixed with suitable studs bolted though the bearers.

cheers,
Pete.

Andy Wade wrote:

2. The belief that some mental phenomena cannot be explained by
physical laws.

I have a feeling that he is actually refering to himself, since the
above seems like such a fitting explanation for may of his presumtions.
So he can just dismiss physical laws when they fail to fit in with hit
pet theory.


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Cheers,

John.

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"John Rumm" wrote in message
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Andy Wade wrote:

2. The belief that some mental phenomena cannot be explained by
physical laws.

I have a feeling that he is actually refering to himself, since the

snip. More mentalism

IMM wrote:

"John Rumm" wrote in message
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Andy Wade wrote:


2. The belief that some mental phenomena cannot be explained by
physical laws.

I have a feeling that he is actually refering to himself, since the


snip. More mentalism

it always about you isn't it...


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Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher writes:

I can lift 50Kg easily mate. Are you saying that when I trawl 50kg up te
stairs I am risking life and limb? Well you are not, but others are..

This thread is utter cobbblers.


What you've said seems to bear no relation to this thread,
which is about hanging a 50kg weight 12" out from near the
top of a brick wall (lime mortar in this case).


I thought it was about ceiling joists collapsing.
And its still no big deal.

John Rumm wrote:

IMM wrote:

"John Rumm" wrote in message
...

Andy Wade wrote:


2. The belief that some mental phenomena cannot be explained by
physical laws.


I have a feeling that he is actually refering to himself, since the



snip. More mentalism


it always about you isn't it...


In a solipsistic universe, by definition, yes.