Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

Hi,

Not exactly DIY....

I have at last found a valid use for a steam cleaner..... They make a
remarkably good quick job of defrosting fridges and freezers.

--


--

Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.org

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Hi,

Not exactly DIY....

I have at last found a valid use for a steam cleaner..... They make a
remarkably good quick job of defrosting fridges and freezers.

I prefer just to use a large fan, and ambient heat.
Set the fan blowing in, and leave it.
No danger of overheating anything.

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:44:00 GMT, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:

Hi,

Not exactly DIY....

I have at last found a valid use for a steam cleaner..... They make a
remarkably good quick job of defrosting fridges and freezers.

--

Bizarre.

I have frost free refrigeration appliances and use the steam cleaner
for cleaning and in conjunction with an iron. Works great.



..andy

To email, substitute .nospam with .gl

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Andy Hall expressed precisely :
Bizarre.

I have frost free refrigeration appliances and use the steam cleaner
for cleaning and in conjunction with an iron. Works great.

The big freezer is some 30 years old and the fridge/freezer about 15
years old. The latter is being replaced this week, hence the need to
defrost it. I have tried lots of ways to try to melt the ice quickly,
fan heaters blowing in through the open door, pans of boiling water
etc.. The steam cleaner was by far the most effective, cutting through
the ice like butter.

It was so effective I decided to have a go at defrosting the big
freezer as well.

--


--

Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.org

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:44:00 GMT, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:

Hi,

Not exactly DIY....

I have at last found a valid use for a steam cleaner..... They make a
remarkably good quick job of defrosting fridges and freezers.

....and cleaning! I use my Earlex on the stove.

MM

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

In article ,
Mike Mitchell wrote:

...and cleaning! I use my Earlex on the stove.

What about (caked-on) soap residues on the walls
of a shower cubicle? I'd really like to find an
easier solution to that.

--
Tony Williams.

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

I use my Earlex for cleaning tiles and grout in the shower cubicle.
You can buy a small brush attachment just for that.


"Tony Williams" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Mike Mitchell wrote:

...and cleaning! I use my Earlex on the stove.

What about (caked-on) soap residues on the walls
of a shower cubicle? I'd really like to find an
easier solution to that.

--
Tony Williams.

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

Mike Mitchell wrote:
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:44:00 GMT, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:

Hi,

Not exactly DIY....

I have at last found a valid use for a steam cleaner..... They make a
remarkably good quick job of defrosting fridges and freezers.

...and cleaning! I use my Earlex on the stove.


How good is it for that? The TV ads for the JML[1] steam cleaner imply
that it will remove baked on crud, like you get on a barbeque or oven
shelves.

Parish

[1] I wouldn't buy a JML one, unless someone here recommends then; I
tried their edging roller once - useless with a capital 'U' (although
that appeared to be down to the poor quality of the rollers rather than
the principle).

MM

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

I've got an expensive Polti, cleans just about anything including: mould on
upv windows and doors, the crud from the back of radiators, cookers,carpets
and soft furnishings, bathroom and toilet, car engine, and I have been using
it to defrost my two freezers for the last 3 years with no ill effects.

Mouse

"Phil Jones" wrote in message
...
I use my Earlex for cleaning tiles and grout in the shower cubicle.
You can buy a small brush attachment just for that.


"Tony Williams" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Mike Mitchell wrote:

...and cleaning! I use my Earlex on the stove.

What about (caked-on) soap residues on the walls
of a shower cubicle? I'd really like to find an
easier solution to that.

--
Tony Williams.

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

In article ,
Parish wrote:

How good is it for that? The TV ads for the JML[1] steam cleaner imply
that it will remove baked on crud, like you get on a barbeque or oven
shelves.

Funnily enough, I had planned to ask on here about that after seeing the
add.

We have a rather disgusting cooker hood - is a cheapo hand held steam cleaner
likely to be any use at all for this? And for cleaning the over maybe (could
be a bit radical that suggestion I admit :-))

Darren

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

No, even my top of the range cleaner will not shift dried cooking oil, have
been advised that evostic remover will shift it but haven't had a chance to
try it as yet.It will shift burnt on fat though
mouse

"dmc" wrote in message ...
In article ,
Parish wrote:

How good is it for that? The TV ads for the JML[1] steam cleaner imply
that it will remove baked on crud, like you get on a barbeque or oven
shelves.

Funnily enough, I had planned to ask on here about that after seeing the
add.

We have a rather disgusting cooker hood - is a cheapo hand held steam
cleaner
likely to be any use at all for this? And for cleaning the over maybe
(could
be a bit radical that suggestion I admit :-))

Darren

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

"Ian Stirling" wrote in message
...
Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Hi,

Not exactly DIY....

I have at last found a valid use for a steam cleaner..... They make a
remarkably good quick job of defrosting fridges and freezers.

I prefer just to use a large fan, and ambient heat.
Set the fan blowing in, and leave it.
No danger of overheating anything.

You can't overheat a fridge or freezer with a steam cleaner. It's an
excellent use for the device - along with many others :-)

I wouldn't be without mine.

Thinks - wonder if it would work on my oven's glass door ... some plum juice
splashed and burnt on last night in an hour or too of distraction!

Mary

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

"Tony Williams" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Mike Mitchell wrote:

...and cleaning! I use my Earlex on the stove.

What about (caked-on) soap residues on the walls
of a shower cubicle? I'd really like to find an
easier solution to that.

How do you get that?

Mary

--
Tony Williams.

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

"mouse" mouse @nospam .net wrote in message
...
No, even my top of the range cleaner will not shift dried cooking oil,
have
been advised that evostic remover will shift it but haven't had a chance
to
try it as yet.It will shift burnt on fat though

Right, thanks. I'll do it after dinner tonight.

I love using the steam cleaner (a Karcher, a son insisted that I needed one
and for once he was right) - and I'm not houseproud. It's just so efficient
at doing everything I've asked it to that it's like a toy!

Mary

mouse

"dmc" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Parish wrote:

How good is it for that? The TV ads for the JML[1] steam cleaner imply
that it will remove baked on crud, like you get on a barbeque or oven
shelves.

Funnily enough, I had planned to ask on here about that after seeing the
add.

We have a rather disgusting cooker hood - is a cheapo hand held steam
cleaner
likely to be any use at all for this? And for cleaning the over maybe
(could
be a bit radical that suggestion I admit :-))

Darren

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
et...

"mouse" mouse @nospam .net wrote in message
...
No, even my top of the range cleaner will not shift dried cooking oil,
have
been advised that evostic remover will shift it but haven't had a chance
to
try it as yet.It will shift burnt on fat though

Right, thanks. I'll do it after dinner tonight.

I love using the steam cleaner (a Karcher, a son insisted that I needed
one
and for once he was right) - and I'm not houseproud. It's just so
efficient
at doing everything I've asked it to that it's like a toy!

Mary


My Polti cost an arm and a couple of legs, but as someone that suffers all
sorts of allergies it was worth every penny.
great for dust mites and other invisible creepy crawlies as well as all the
other uses.

mouse

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

"mouse" mouse @nospam .net wrote in message
...

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
et...

"mouse" mouse @nospam .net wrote in message
...
No, even my top of the range cleaner will not shift dried cooking oil,
have
been advised that evostic remover will shift it but haven't had a
chance
to
try it as yet.It will shift burnt on fat though

Right, thanks. I'll do it after dinner tonight.

I love using the steam cleaner (a Karcher, a son insisted that I needed
one
and for once he was right) - and I'm not houseproud. It's just so
efficient
at doing everything I've asked it to that it's like a toy!

Mary


My Polti cost an arm and a couple of legs, but as someone that suffers all
sorts of allergies it was worth every penny.
great for dust mites and other invisible creepy crawlies as well as all
the
other uses.

mouse

Looks as though Harry's in a minority!

Mary

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

Parish wrote in -
berlin.de:



How good is it for that? The TV ads for the JML[1] steam cleaner imply
that it will remove baked on crud, like you get on a barbeque or oven
shelves.

Parish

Rubbish - the only thing my steam cleaner's good for is fridgr and freezer
defrosting; to be fair it's brilliant at that, but rubbish at stoves.

Best so far for the stove:-

Fairy Power Spray

mike r

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

"Mary Fisher" wrote in
et:


Looks as though Harry's in a minority!

Mary

me and him both.

mike r

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

It happens that Mary Fisher formulated :
Looks as though Harry's in a minority!

It doesn't clean my alloy rims very well, it doesn't clean the cooker
very well, so what do they do apart from defrost freezers?

Oh, they make a good job of cleaning spectacle lens ;-)

--


--

Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.org

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

In article ,
Mary Fisher wrote:

"Tony Williams" wrote
What about (caked-on) soap residues on the walls
of a shower cubicle? I'd really like to find an
easier solution to that.

How do you get that?

It's a Man-Thing.

Absolute and total bone idleness, allowing the soap
residue to build up until it starts to grow things.

--
Tony Williams.

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

"Tony Williams" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Mary Fisher wrote:

"Tony Williams" wrote
What about (caked-on) soap residues on the walls
of a shower cubicle? I'd really like to find an
easier solution to that.

How do you get that?

It's a Man-Thing.

Absolute and total bone idleness, allowing the soap
residue to build up until it starts to grow things.

I wondered why I didn't get that.

Then I remembered that we don't have a shower cubicle.

I must get out more ...

Mary

--
Tony Williams.

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

Harry Bloomfield wrote in
.uk:

Oh, they make a good job of cleaning spectacle lens ;-)

DEtergent and water's quicker

mike r

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 19:46:42 +0000 (UTC), mike ring
wrote:

Parish wrote in -
berlin.de:



How good is it for that? The TV ads for the JML[1] steam cleaner imply
that it will remove baked on crud, like you get on a barbeque or oven
shelves.

Parish

Rubbish - the only thing my steam cleaner's good for is fridgr and freezer
defrosting; to be fair it's brilliant at that, but rubbish at stoves.

Best so far for the stove:-

Fairy Power Spray

What's all this about steam not being a boon for cleaning stoves?!!
It's brilliant! You just go over the greasy bits (yeah, I know I'm
supposed to clunk-clean after every trip) with the jet nozzle, leave
for ten minutes to soften and then attack with Flash liquid or the new
Cif equivalent. Fairy Power Spray is as weak as horse-****. I'm
convinced these manufacturers have a large tank from which they just
fill lots of differently shaped and coloured bottles and sprays, so
that we end up buying half a dozen with basically the same fluid in.
We love buying cleaning stuff, don't we! Big business, methinks.

MM

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

"mouse" mouse @nospam .net wrote in message
...

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
et...

"mouse" mouse @nospam .net wrote in message
...
No, even my top of the range cleaner will not shift dried cooking oil,
have
been advised that evostic remover will shift it but haven't had a
chance
to
try it as yet.It will shift burnt on fat though

Right, thanks. I'll do it after dinner tonight.

I love using the steam cleaner (a Karcher, a son insisted that I needed
one
and for once he was right) - and I'm not houseproud. It's just so
efficient
at doing everything I've asked it to that it's like a toy!

Mary


My Polti cost an arm and a couple of legs, but as someone that suffers all
sorts of allergies it was worth every penny.
great for dust mites and other invisible creepy crawlies as well as all
the
other uses.

I just use the old steam wallpaper stripper a friend cast off in my
direction when she bought a flashier new one! Does OK for defrosting the
fridge and on one occasion getting the ghastly deadanimal residues off our
new* cooker.

Of course I take off the plate-type thing for spreading the steam across the
wallpaper - just use the rubber hose.




* as in cast-off from someone who'd had their kitchen done up :-)

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

"Mike Mitchell" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 19:46:42 +0000 (UTC), mike ring
wrote:

Parish wrote in -
berlin.de:



How good is it for that? The TV ads for the JML[1] steam cleaner imply
that it will remove baked on crud, like you get on a barbeque or oven
shelves.

Parish

Rubbish - the only thing my steam cleaner's good for is fridgr and
freezer
defrosting; to be fair it's brilliant at that, but rubbish at stoves.

Best so far for the stove:-

Fairy Power Spray

What's all this about steam not being a boon for cleaning stoves?!!
It's brilliant! You just go over the greasy bits (yeah, I know I'm
supposed to clunk-clean after every trip) with the jet nozzle, leave
for ten minutes to soften and then attack with Flash liquid or the new
Cif

Why did they change the name? What was wrong with Jif? It meant something
....

equivalent. Fairy Power Spray is as weak as horse-****.

Actually, horse **** is powerful stuff.

I'm
convinced these manufacturers have a large tank from which they just
fill lots of differently shaped and coloured bottles and sprays, so
that we end up buying half a dozen with basically the same fluid in.
We love buying cleaning stuff, don't we! Big business, methinks.

I don't. I like the steam cleaner.

And horse ****.

Mary

MM

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

Mary Fisher wrote:
Why did they change the name? What was wrong with Jif? It meant something
...

Apparently it was due to being marketed world-wide - the name didn't
work in languages with no 'J' in their alphabet.


equivalent. Fairy Power Spray is as weak as horse-****.

Actually, horse **** is powerful stuff.


Dare one ask..?

Regards,

Parish

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:44:00 GMT, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:

Hi,

Not exactly DIY....

I have at last found a valid use for a steam cleaner..... They make a
remarkably good quick job of defrosting fridges and freezers.

--

Yes...I always had my doubts about these steam things until I borrowed
a steam walllpaper stripper. It was so good I bought one . It's great
for getting stains out of the carpet too. By detaching the flat
plastic tray thing from the end of the pipe there are loads of extra
uses, even without buying the proper accesories. I wouldn't recommend
cleaning your face with it though.

norm

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

Parish wrote in
:

Mary Fisher wrote:
Why did they change the name? What was wrong with Jif? It meant
something ...

Apparently it was due to being marketed world-wide - the name didn't
work in languages with no 'J' in their alphabet.


Also, apparently, it wasn't called Cif in the UK to begin with as people
might have associated it with syphilis. Funny how they don't mind now...

Rod

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

On 17 Mar 2004 23:28:20 GMT, Rod Hewitt
wrote:

Parish wrote in
:

Mary Fisher wrote:
Why did they change the name? What was wrong with Jif? It meant
something ...

Apparently it was due to being marketed world-wide - the name didn't
work in languages with no 'J' in their alphabet.


Also, apparently, it wasn't called Cif in the UK to begin with as people
might have associated it with syphilis. Funny how they don't mind now...

Cilly Causage!

MM

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:42:43 +0000, norm wrote:

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:44:00 GMT, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:

Hi,

Not exactly DIY....

I have at last found a valid use for a steam cleaner..... They make a
remarkably good quick job of defrosting fridges and freezers.

--

Yes...I always had my doubts about these steam things until I borrowed
a steam walllpaper stripper. It was so good I bought one . It's great
for getting stains out of the carpet too. By detaching the flat
plastic tray thing from the end of the pipe there are loads of extra
uses, even without buying the proper accesories. I wouldn't recommend
cleaning your face with it though.

No, it does get awfully hot. I have scalded my fingers on several
occasions. After a while it doesn't hurt so much...

MM

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

Rod Hewitt wrote:

Parish wrote in
:

Mary Fisher wrote:
Why did they change the name? What was wrong with Jif? It meant
something ...

Apparently it was due to being marketed world-wide - the name didn't
work in languages with no 'J' in their alphabet.


Also, apparently, it wasn't called Cif in the UK to begin with as people
might have associated it with syphilis. Funny how they don't mind now...


Ah yes, the jokes about asking where you can get Cif - I'd forgotten
them; can't think why ;-)

Rod

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

"Rod Hewitt" wrote in message
...
Parish wrote in
:

Mary Fisher wrote:
Why did they change the name? What was wrong with Jif? It meant
something ...

Apparently it was due to being marketed world-wide - the name didn't
work in languages with no 'J' in their alphabet.

They should have given them a J then. Or why not simply keep Jif for us and
Cif for them?


Also, apparently, it wasn't called Cif in the UK to begin with as people
might have associated it with syphilis. Funny how they don't mind now...

What's the association?

Mary

Rod

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 09:17:18 -0000, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:


"Rod Hewitt" wrote in message
.. .
Parish wrote in
:

Mary Fisher wrote:
Why did they change the name? What was wrong with Jif? It meant
something ...

Apparently it was due to being marketed world-wide - the name didn't
work in languages with no 'J' in their alphabet.

They should have given them a J then. Or why not simply keep Jif for us and
Cif for them?


Also, apparently, it wasn't called Cif in the UK to begin with as people
might have associated it with syphilis. Funny how they don't mind now...

What's the association?

Mary


Abbreviation.....


..andy

To email, substitute .nospam with .gl

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

Mary Fisher wrote:
"Rod Hewitt" wrote in message
...
Parish wrote in
:

Mary Fisher wrote:
Why did they change the name? What was wrong with Jif? It meant
something ...

Apparently it was due to being marketed world-wide - the name didn't
work in languages with no 'J' in their alphabet.

They should have given them a J then. Or why not simply keep Jif for us and
Cif for them?

Indeed. It seems to be a trend with marketing types though, possibly an
American thing? The same reasoning was behind renaming Marathon to
Snickers (which is what it had always been called in the U.S.).

There is a wonderful story about Heinz baby food, which has a picture of
a happy smiling baby on the tins, failing to sell when launched in a
South American country (not sure which one). Heinz were baffled until
they discovered that, due to the high rate of illiteracy, pictures on
tins of food depicted it's contents. Personally, I suspect that is an
urban myth, or a mixture of both.

Parish



Also, apparently, it wasn't called Cif in the UK to begin with as people
might have associated it with syphilis. Funny how they don't mind now...

What's the association?

Mary

Rod

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 09:17:18 -0000, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:


"Rod Hewitt" wrote in message
.. .
Parish wrote in
:

Mary Fisher wrote:
Why did they change the name? What was wrong with Jif? It meant
something ...

Apparently it was due to being marketed world-wide - the name didn't
work in languages with no 'J' in their alphabet.

They should have given them a J then. Or why not simply keep Jif for us
and
Cif for them?


Also, apparently, it wasn't called Cif in the UK to begin with as
people
might have associated it with syphilis. Funny how they don't mind
now...

What's the association?

Mary


Abbreviation.....

HUH?

Mary


.andy

To email, substitute .nospam with .gl

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

Mary Fisher wrote:

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 09:17:18 -0000, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:


"Rod Hewitt" wrote in message
.. .
Parish wrote in
:

Mary Fisher wrote:
Why did they change the name? What was wrong with Jif? It meant
something ...

Apparently it was due to being marketed world-wide - the name didn't
work in languages with no 'J' in their alphabet.

They should have given them a J then. Or why not simply keep Jif for us
and
Cif for them?


Also, apparently, it wasn't called Cif in the UK to begin with as
people
might have associated it with syphilis. Funny how they don't mind
now...

What's the association?

Mary


Abbreviation.....

HUH?


Phonetic. 'Syph' being the abbreviation of syphilis.

Parish

Mary


.andy

To email, substitute .nospam with .gl

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

In message , Mary
Fisher writes
Also, apparently, it wasn't called Cif in the UK to begin with as
people
might have associated it with syphilis.

What's the association?

Abbreviation.....

HUH?

homophonic abbreviation

--
dave @ stejonda

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

"dave @ stejonda" wrote in message
...
In message , Mary
Fisher writes
Also, apparently, it wasn't called Cif in the UK to begin with as
people
might have associated it with syphilis.

What's the association?

Abbreviation.....

HUH?

homophonic abbreviation

Oh. I see.

How silly.

Mary

--
dave @ stejonda

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

Mike Mitchell wrote in
:


No, it does get awfully hot. I have scalded my fingers on several
occasions. After a while it doesn't hurt so much...

MM

I get that with my steam cooker, which I love.

I'm used to putting in and taking out while it's working, - it's ok if
you're quick.

But if you've got the bowl in there for rice or similar, the exhaust is
concentrated and directed round the sides od the bowl.

It really doesn't pay even to stir the contents without great caution and
Acriflavin..


mike r

Steam cleaner, a use at last :-)
 

Parish wrote in
:

Indeed. It seems to be a trend with marketing types though, possibly
an American thing? The same reasoning was behind renaming Marathon to
Snickers (which is what it had always been called in the U.S.).


I thought that it was simple stock management. Given the same branding and
multi-lingual labelling they can push product around as needed. It was
silly having tons of product available for a depressed marketing area and
none for a booming one. Also - concentration of production in a few places
woudl tend to make it easier to have a single brand and packaging.

--
Rod

www.annalaurie.co.uk