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Paper2002AD September 13th 04 12:05 PM

Labels on apples
 
Them tiny labels on eating apples - they edible? They must get swallowed in
their millions!

Grunff September 13th 04 12:14 PM

Paper2002AD wrote:

Them tiny labels on eating apples - they edible? They must get swallowed in
their millions!


No, and in fact the adhesive used on them is not very good for you. I
knew someone who spent 3 years researching how much adhesive you
actually eat, because it's apparently quite toxic in relatively small
amounts.

--
Grunff

Tim Mitchell September 13th 04 12:39 PM

In article , Grunff
writes
Paper2002AD wrote:

Them tiny labels on eating apples - they edible? They must get swallowed in
their millions!


No, and in fact the adhesive used on them is not very good for you. I
knew someone who spent 3 years researching how much adhesive you
actually eat, because it's apparently quite toxic in relatively small
amounts.

You would think that the labels would be designed with an adhesive which
peels off cleanly, but it ain't so. Another of life's mysteries.
--
Tim Mitchell

Mary Fisher September 13th 04 12:48 PM


"Tim Mitchell" wrote in message
...
In article , Grunff
writes
Paper2002AD wrote:

Them tiny labels on eating apples - they edible? They must get

swallowed in
their millions!


No, and in fact the adhesive used on them is not very good for you. I
knew someone who spent 3 years researching how much adhesive you
actually eat, because it's apparently quite toxic in relatively small
amounts.

You would think that the labels would be designed with an adhesive which
peels off cleanly, but it ain't so. Another of life's mysteries.


They'd come off too easily in transit or storage if they were and we
couldn't have that, could we!

I don't understand why they need labels anyway, did we all get confused
before we hd them? No.

But I really don't think many people can eat them, surely ...

Mary
--
Tim Mitchell




Mungo \two sheds\ Toadfoot September 13th 04 12:54 PM

Mary Fisher wrote:

I don't understand why they need labels anyway, did we all get
confused before we hd them? No.

But I really don't think many people can eat them, surely ...


They're used so that the apples can be easily identified at the checkout -
they all have a four digit number on them which is typed into the till and
the computer knows what you're buying, or more precisely, what the shop is
selling.

Si



Michael Mcneil September 13th 04 12:55 PM

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
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But I really don't think many people can eat them, surely ...


Oh they do, really. I read it on the internet just now.

Well, some people do.

They'll come unstuck, don't you worry.



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dmc September 13th 04 12:56 PM

In article ,
Mary Fisher wrote:

I don't understand why they need labels anyway, did we all get confused
before we hd them? No.


Tescos last week. Bag full of conference pears with labels missing on many.

Girl at till (after hunting for labels): "Are these nectarines?"

Darren


Ric September 13th 04 01:17 PM


"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
. net...

"Tim Mitchell" wrote in message
...
In article , Grunff
writes
Paper2002AD wrote:

Them tiny labels on eating apples - they edible? They must get

swallowed in
their millions!

No, and in fact the adhesive used on them is not very good for you. I
knew someone who spent 3 years researching how much adhesive you
actually eat, because it's apparently quite toxic in relatively small
amounts.

You would think that the labels would be designed with an adhesive which
peels off cleanly, but it ain't so. Another of life's mysteries.


They'd come off too easily in transit or storage if they were and we
couldn't have that, could we!

I don't understand why they need labels anyway, did we all get confused
before we hd them? No.


I have an apple tree that fails to put the labels on any of the apples it
grows - very annoying as I don't know what they are



Mary Fisher September 13th 04 02:19 PM


"Mungo "two sheds" Toadfoot" wrote in message
...
Mary Fisher wrote:

I don't understand why they need labels anyway, did we all get
confused before we hd them? No.

But I really don't think many people can eat them, surely ...


They're used so that the apples can be easily identified at the checkout -
they all have a four digit number on them which is typed into the till and
the computer knows what you're buying, or more precisely, what the shop is
selling.


I think I knew that - but a way round that, if the check-out can't identify
them, would be to have peel off stickers on a coil near the apples and stuck
to a bag in which the customer puts the apples.

Mary

Si





Mary Fisher September 13th 04 02:20 PM


"Michael Mcneil" wrote in message
news:6cd880db7e383016b5230e4d3f99f1fb.45219@mygate .mailgate.org...
"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
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But I really don't think many people can eat them, surely ...


Oh they do, really. I read it on the internet just now.


Oh, well it must be true ...

Well, some people do.

They'll come unstuck, don't you worry.


When they get round to it.

Mary



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Mary Fisher September 13th 04 02:21 PM


"dmc" wrote in message ...
In article ,
Mary Fisher wrote:

I don't understand why they need labels anyway, did we all get confused
before we hd them? No.


Tescos last week. Bag full of conference pears with labels missing on

many.

Girl at till (after hunting for labels): "Are these nectarines?"


That's not 'we'. That's them. They should be trained better.

Hrumph.

Mary

Darren





Mary Fisher September 13th 04 02:22 PM


"Ric" wrote in message
...

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
. net...

"Tim Mitchell" wrote in message
...
In article , Grunff
writes
Paper2002AD wrote:

Them tiny labels on eating apples - they edible? They must get

swallowed in
their millions!

No, and in fact the adhesive used on them is not very good for you. I
knew someone who spent 3 years researching how much adhesive you
actually eat, because it's apparently quite toxic in relatively small
amounts.

You would think that the labels would be designed with an adhesive

which
peels off cleanly, but it ain't so. Another of life's mysteries.


They'd come off too easily in transit or storage if they were and we
couldn't have that, could we!

I don't understand why they need labels anyway, did we all get confused
before we hd them? No.


I have an apple tree that fails to put the labels on any of the apples it
grows - very annoying as I don't know what they are


Would it make any difference to you if you did?

I once took some apples from our tree to be identified by Mr Juniper.

I've forgotten what they are.

Mary





Mungo \two sheds\ Toadfoot September 13th 04 03:16 PM

dmc wrote:
In article ,
Mary Fisher wrote:

I don't understand why they need labels anyway, did we all get
confused before we hd them? No.


Tescos last week. Bag full of conference pears with labels missing on
many.

Girl at till (after hunting for labels): "Are these nectarines?"


Blimey! :)

They're supposed to have regular checks so that they know the difference
between each different kind of fruit/vegatable.

Si




Dave Liquorice September 13th 04 04:51 PM

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:48:17 +0100, Mary Fisher wrote:

You would think that the labels would be designed with an adhesive
which peels off cleanly, but it ain't so.


Appear to peel of cleanly here, at least the glue layer stays on the
lable not the fruit. Of course I expect some thing has leached into
the fruit...

I don't understand why they need labels anyway, did we all get
confused before we hd them?


So the minimum wage brain dead super market checkout operator knows
that it's an Royal Gala Apple not a Braeburn or a Pear or Nectarine...

But I really don't think many people can eat them, surely ...


I wouldn't have thought so either but then I've learnt that it is very
easy to over estimate the stupidity of the great unwashed.

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Andy Dingley September 13th 04 05:20 PM

On Mon, 13 Sep 04 11:56:16 GMT, (dmc) wrote:

Girl at till (after hunting for labels): "Are these nectarines?"


Try Eastville (Bristol) Tesco on the very late shift. We swap recipes
for papaya or ackees and bemoan the lack of medlars.


Mary Fisher September 13th 04 06:06 PM


"Andy Dingley" wrote in message

Girl at till (after hunting for labels): "Are these nectarines?"


Try Eastville (Bristol) Tesco on the very late shift. We swap recipes
for papaya or ackees and bemoan the lack of medlars.


I grow my own medlars :-)

Mary




David September 13th 04 06:30 PM

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:54:34 +0100, "Mungo \"two sheds\" Toadfoot"
wrote:

Mary Fisher wrote:

I don't understand why they need labels anyway, did we all get
confused before we hd them? No.

But I really don't think many people can eat them, surely ...


They're used so that the apples can be easily identified at the checkout -
they all have a four digit number on them which is typed into the till and
the computer knows what you're buying, or more precisely, what the shop is
selling.

Si



I've got a collection of them! Not in the anorak sense, but first
noticed them when I bought a grapefruit every week and the labels were
different each time. Stuck them on the kitchen wall and have about 25
different ones plus those from other fruits.

There's even a person who's got his own web page of them:

http://www.nationalfinder.com/fruitlabels/#ALPHA

No, its nothing to do with me, I just googled on them to find out what
the numbers meant. A PLU (Product Look Up number) should you be
remotely interested.



Dave




Mary Fisher September 13th 04 07:43 PM


"David" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:54:34 +0100, "Mungo \"two sheds\" Toadfoot"
wrote:

Mary Fisher wrote:

I don't understand why they need labels anyway, did we all get
confused before we hd them? No.

But I really don't think many people can eat them, surely ...


They're used so that the apples can be easily identified at the

checkout -
they all have a four digit number on them which is typed into the till

and
the computer knows what you're buying, or more precisely, what the shop

is
selling.

Si



I've got a collection of them! Not in the anorak sense, but first
noticed them when I bought a grapefruit every week and the labels were
different each time. Stuck them on the kitchen wall and have about 25
different ones plus those from other fruits.


Spouse started doing that in the 1960s.I hated it, so did the kids. They
disappeared. I didn't remove them ...

I'm sure that one day they'll have a value.

But who cares?

Mary



Mungo \two sheds\ Toadfoot September 13th 04 08:53 PM

Mary Fisher wrote:
"Andy Dingley" wrote in message

Girl at till (after hunting for labels): "Are these nectarines?"


Try Eastville (Bristol) Tesco on the very late shift. We swap
recipes for papaya or ackees and bemoan the lack of medlars.


I grow my own medlars :-)


I've never heard of them!

*Google google*

Si



Mungo \two sheds\ Toadfoot September 13th 04 08:55 PM

Mungo "two sheds" Toadfoot wrote:
Mary Fisher wrote:


I grow my own medlars :-)


I've never heard of them!

*Google google*


Ha!

"Medlar 'Nottingham'
Reliable crops of vitamin 'C' rich fruits, needs to be bletted before
eating."

"BLETTED"!?!?

*Google google*

Si



Mary Fisher September 13th 04 09:16 PM


"Mungo "two sheds" Toadfoot" wrote in message
...
Mungo "two sheds" Toadfoot wrote:
Mary Fisher wrote:


I grow my own medlars :-)


I've never heard of them!

*Google google*


Ha!

"Medlar 'Nottingham'
Reliable crops of vitamin 'C' rich fruits, needs to be bletted before
eating."

"BLETTED"!?!?


There's a lot of misinformation about them.

You'll have mail.

Mary

*Google google*

Si





Andy Dingley September 13th 04 09:35 PM

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:55:10 +0100, "Mungo \"two sheds\" Toadfoot"
wrote:

"BLETTED"!?!?


It's a way of guaranteeing that they'll _never_ be sold in
supermarkets.

Ripe medlars look like durians smell, but taste rather better.
Actually they taste 'orrible, but they cook beautifully. My last batch
were used to coat a roasted Gloucester Old Spot, a bit of a waste as
I'm a veggie.


Mary Fisher September 13th 04 09:52 PM


"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:55:10 +0100, "Mungo \"two sheds\" Toadfoot"
wrote:

"BLETTED"!?!?


It's a way of guaranteeing that they'll _never_ be sold in
supermarkets.

Ripe medlars look like durians smell, but taste rather better.
Actually they taste 'orrible, but they cook beautifully. My last batch
were used to coat a roasted Gloucester Old Spot, a bit of a waste as
I'm a veggie.


Old Spots!

They're best simply served, with cream.

drool

Mary




stuart noble September 14th 04 08:31 AM

So what IS the adhesive on fruit labels then? Postage stamps you licked were
gum arabic, which was probably quite nutritious.
A lot of supermarket fruit is coated in carnauba wax to improve appearance.
No doubt that has some grisly e number, but is natural and harmless.




chris French September 14th 04 09:26 AM

In message , Mary
Fisher writes

"Mungo "two sheds" Toadfoot" wrote in message
...
Mary Fisher wrote:

I don't understand why they need labels anyway, did we all get
confused before we hd them? No.

But I really don't think many people can eat them, surely ...


They're used so that the apples can be easily identified at the checkout -
they all have a four digit number on them which is typed into the till and
the computer knows what you're buying, or more precisely, what the shop is
selling.


I think I knew that - but a way round that, if the check-out can't identify
them, would be to have peel off stickers on a coil near the apples and stuck
to a bag in which the customer puts the apples.


And how many people would forget, stick on the wrong label etc.?
--
Chris French, Leeds

Mary Fisher September 14th 04 11:03 AM


"chris French" wrote in message
...
In message , Mary
Fisher writes

"Mungo "two sheds" Toadfoot" wrote in message
...
Mary Fisher wrote:

I don't understand why they need labels anyway, did we all get
confused before we hd them? No.

But I really don't think many people can eat them, surely ...


They're used so that the apples can be easily identified at the

checkout -
they all have a four digit number on them which is typed into the till

and
the computer knows what you're buying, or more precisely, what the shop

is
selling.


I think I knew that - but a way round that, if the check-out can't

identify
them, would be to have peel off stickers on a coil near the apples and

stuck
to a bag in which the customer puts the apples.


And how many people would forget, stick on the wrong label etc.?


If they forget they don't buy the apples.

If they're trying to defraud, they can do that now by switching the labels.

Mary
--
Chris French, Leeds




Mary Fisher September 14th 04 11:04 AM


"stuart noble" wrote in message
...
So what IS the adhesive on fruit labels then? Postage stamps you licked

were
gum arabic, which was probably quite nutritious.
A lot of supermarket fruit is coated in carnauba wax


Is it really carnauba?

I wouldn't have thought that would stick to apple skins.

Mary



Andy Dingley September 14th 04 11:28 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:04:24 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:

Is it really carnauba?


Carnauba used to be one ingredient - it gives a higher shine. Since
we started to care about eating fruit coated with furniture polish,
the shops have toned down the shininess of it. Some was candelilla
instead of carnauba as this is even harder and shinier. They're both
still used on some sweets or pills.

I believe it's sprayed on as a water emulsion, heated to keep it
flowing.

--
Smert' spamionam

chris French September 14th 04 11:28 AM

In message , Mary
Fisher writes

"chris French" wrote in message
...
In message , Mary
Fisher writes

I think I knew that - but a way round that, if the check-out can't

identify
them, would be to have peel off stickers on a coil near the apples and

stuck
to a bag in which the customer puts the apples.


And how many people would forget, stick on the wrong label etc.?


If they forget they don't buy the apples.


Or the queue has to wait while someone sorts it out.

If they're trying to defraud, they can do that now by switching the labels.


I was thinking more of accidentally sticking the wrong label on here.

Yes of course this could be used, but I can't see much in for the
supermarkets
--
Chris French, Leeds

Mary Fisher September 14th 04 11:37 AM


"chris French" wrote in message
...


And how many people would forget, stick on the wrong label etc.?


If they forget they don't buy the apples.


Or the queue has to wait while someone sorts it out.

If they're trying to defraud, they can do that now by switching the

labels.


I was thinking more of accidentally sticking the wrong label on here.


I don't think it would bankrupt either customer or shop.

Yes of course this could be used, but I can't see much in for the
supermarkets


Well, I often hear broadcasts saying that they want to respond to customers'
requirements, that they listen, that ... oh, you know, all sorts of
meaningless guff :-)

Mary
--
Chris French, Leeds




Mary Fisher September 14th 04 11:38 AM


"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:04:24 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:

Is it really carnauba?


Carnauba used to be one ingredient - it gives a higher shine. Since
we started to care about eating fruit coated with furniture polish,
the shops have toned down the shininess of it. Some was candelilla
instead of carnauba as this is even harder and shinier. They're both
still used on some sweets or pills.

I believe it's sprayed on as a water emulsion, heated to keep it
flowing.


So it must contain an emulsifier too? And if so it can be washed off ... but
it can't in my experience.

Why does the work 'alar' keep coming into my mind?

Mary

--
Smert' spamionam




Mark Spice September 14th 04 12:34 PM


"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
. net...

"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:04:24 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:

Is it really carnauba?


Carnauba used to be one ingredient - it gives a higher shine. Since
we started to care about eating fruit coated with furniture polish,
the shops have toned down the shininess of it. Some was candelilla
instead of carnauba as this is even harder and shinier. They're both
still used on some sweets or pills.

I believe it's sprayed on as a water emulsion, heated to keep it
flowing.


So it must contain an emulsifier too? And if so it can be washed off ...

but
it can't in my experience.

Why does the work 'alar' keep coming into my mind?

Mary


Pedant toxicologist mode on

What you can't stop thinking about a pesticide that has virtually no risk to
humans in the dose likely to be consumed and about which the scaremongering
cost millions for no actual increase in safety?

mode off

Cheers

Mark



Mary Fisher September 14th 04 02:24 PM


"Mark Spice" wrote in message
...

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
. net...

"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:04:24 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:

Is it really carnauba?

Carnauba used to be one ingredient - it gives a higher shine. Since
we started to care about eating fruit coated with furniture polish,
the shops have toned down the shininess of it. Some was candelilla
instead of carnauba as this is even harder and shinier. They're both
still used on some sweets or pills.

I believe it's sprayed on as a water emulsion, heated to keep it
flowing.


So it must contain an emulsifier too? And if so it can be washed off ...

but
it can't in my experience.

Why does the work 'alar' keep coming into my mind?

Mary


Pedant toxicologist mode on

What you can't stop thinking about a pesticide that has virtually no risk

to
humans in the dose likely to be consumed and about which the

scaremongering
cost millions for no actual increase in safety?


Oh, thanks. I wasn't worried about it, just couldn't remember anything, even
if there was such a word ... something to do with applies I thought ...

It's getting more common, this forgetting :-(

Mary

mode off

Cheers

Mark





stuart noble September 14th 04 02:46 PM


Mary Fisher wrote in message
...

"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:04:24 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:

Is it really carnauba?


Carnauba used to be one ingredient - it gives a higher shine. Since
we started to care about eating fruit coated with furniture polish,
the shops have toned down the shininess of it. Some was candelilla
instead of carnauba as this is even harder and shinier. They're both
still used on some sweets or pills.

I believe it's sprayed on as a water emulsion, heated to keep it
flowing.


So it must contain an emulsifier too? And if so it can be washed off ...

but
it can't in my experience.

The wax flakes for fruit are pre-coated with an emulsifier so that they can
just be stirred into hot water to form the emulsion. The coating it produces
has no resistance to water so can easily be washed off.
Don't know what your experience consists of but, if beeswax comes into the
equation, you would have something more water resistant.
None of the hard vegetable waxes, carnauba, candelilla, esparto are much use
as a coating on their own, all being virtually insoluble in anything at room
temperature. Used a lot in the paper and cosmetic industries I believe.



greek0691 December 16th 20 09:01 PM

Labels on apples
 
None of our chickens seem to be able to inkjet mark their eggs with the date and batch number- we have to use a lead pencil to date them. Frustrating.

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Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) December 18th 20 06:56 AM

Labels on apples
 
I thought this was done manually, or in other words twice a year., much like
toothbrush holesmanship?
Brian

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None of our chickens seem to be able to inkjet mark their eggs with the
date and batch number- we have to use a lead pencil to date them.
Frustrating.

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GB December 18th 20 12:40 PM

Labels on apples
 
On 16/12/2020 21:01, greek0691 wrote:
None of our chickens seem to be able to inkjet mark their eggs with the
date and batch number- we have to use a lead pencil to date them.
Frustrating.



Can you not feed the chickens different things on different days of the
week? So, for example, if the eggs are purple they were probably laid on
Wednesday?



The Natural Philosopher[_2_] December 18th 20 12:54 PM

Labels on apples
 
On 18/12/2020 12:40, GB wrote:
On 16/12/2020 21:01, greek0691 wrote:
None of our chickens seem to be able to inkjet mark their eggs with
the date and batch number- we have to use a lead pencil to date them.
Frustrating.



Can you not feed the chickens different things on different days of the
week? So, for example, if the eggs are purple they were probably laid on
Wednesday?


I am sure you could attach a raspberry pi to them and an inkjet printer
strapped to their bottoms.

Or you could get robot goats....

http://vps.templar.co.uk/Cartoons%20...facedgoats.jpg


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Andrew[_22_] December 18th 20 01:50 PM

Labels on apples
 
On 18/12/2020 12:40, GB wrote:
On 16/12/2020 21:01, greek0691 wrote:
None of our chickens seem to be able to inkjet mark their eggs with
the date and batch number- we have to use a lead pencil to date them.
Frustrating.



Can you not feed the chickens different things on different days of the
week? So, for example, if the eggs are purple they were probably laid on
Wednesday?



The Italian 'brown barn' eggs that Sainsburys were selling in the
summer were dyed with something because when hard boiled the water
in the pan turned brown !


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