Advice please on possibly cutting a trench through up to a fifth of this tree's roots please...

Is there a way to do this without seriously injuring this wonderful tree?

Where on the internet or in the real world can I get advice?
What questions should I be asking?

We need to remove the rainwater from some roofs which was inserted into the sewer a few decades ago and hence floods the septic tank whenever it rains and leads to a pong in the lane!

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On 27/05/2021 11:31, George Miles wrote:
Advice please on possibly cutting a trench through up to a fifth of this tree's roots please...

Up to a fifth - probably irrelevant.

Especially in heavy soils. Beech does suffer in dry years on chalk though


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On 27/05/2021 13:24, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Thu, 27 May 2021 03:31:01 -0700 (PDT), George Miles
wrote:

Advice please on possibly cutting a trench through up to a fifth of this tree's roots please...

Is there a way to do this without seriously injuring this wonderful tree?

Where on the internet or in the real world can I get advice?
What questions should I be asking?

We need to remove the rainwater from some roofs which was inserted into the sewer a few decades ago and hence floods the septic tank whenever it rains and leads to a pong in the lane!

video: https://youtu.be/b3GVYTpZEw4

facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dicegeorge/...59282739254882

I am not a tree surgeon, but the rule of thumb for tree roots is that
they extend out as far as the leaf canopy above. I would think there
is a real risk of damaging the tree if you cut into them to the degree
you're suggesting, even to the point of having the tree blow over in a
gale, having lost a significant part of is anchorage, let alone
damaging its ability to take up water and nourishment, especially in
dry weather.

I have had five trees blow over in gales in my garden. Not one of them
had cut roots, though some had rotting roots.




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On 27/05/2021 11:31, George Miles wrote:
Advice please on possibly cutting a trench through up to a fifth of this tree's roots please...

Is there a way to do this without seriously injuring this wonderful tree?

Where on the internet or in the real world can I get advice?
What questions should I be asking?

We need to remove the rainwater from some roofs which was inserted into the sewer a few decades ago and hence floods the septic tank whenever it rains and leads to a pong in the lane!

video: https://youtu.be/b3GVYTpZEw4

facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dicegeorge/...59282739254882

Have you checked to see if there's a TPO on this tree?

Although it would cost money, specialist firms can put pipes in using
moles; they should be able to do this without damaging the roots by
going under them (most tree roots are surprisingly shallow).

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Jeff

On 27/05/2021 11:31, George Miles wrote:
Advice please on possibly cutting a trench through up to a fifth of this tree's roots please...

Is there a way to do this without seriously injuring this wonderful tree?

Where on the internet or in the real world can I get advice?
What questions should I be asking?

We need to remove the rainwater from some roofs which was inserted into the sewer a few decades ago and hence floods the septic tank whenever it rains and leads to a pong in the lane!

video: https://youtu.be/b3GVYTpZEw4

facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dicegeorge/...59282739254882



mature beech trees like that don't react well to changes . The rule of
thumb for a root protection area on developments used to be no work
withing four times the girth.

the updated advice is in

https://www.adas.uk/Portals/0/Docume...%20%281%29.pdf

On sensitive trees an air spade can excavate the trench deep enough and
the pipe can then be passed under most of the roots.

If you dig the trench carefully and given much of the area has been
compacted by the car turning area I think you are probably safe.

On 27/05/2021 11:31, George Miles wrote:
Advice please on possibly cutting a trench through up to a fifth of this tree's roots please...

Is there a way to do this without seriously injuring this wonderful tree?

Where on the internet or in the real world can I get advice?
What questions should I be asking?

We need to remove the rainwater from some roofs which was inserted into the sewer a few decades ago and hence floods the septic tank whenever it rains and leads to a pong in the lane!

video: https://youtu.be/b3GVYTpZEw4

facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dicegeorge/...59282739254882

Could you simply dig the trench carefully and avoid damaging any roots?
You should be able to pass a pipe under the roots in most cases.

See
https://treeradaruk.com/

Bill

I'd not be doing it, 2 thirds of the trees in this road died after Virgin
used a trench cutter to make the place for their ducts to run.

How bendy are the roots, If you can just part them and move them a bit while
the tree is not so active, then you may be able to get away with it. There
are rules about trees, so you need to talk to the local authority, who also
may know of a local tree surgeon who can advise.
Brian

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"George Miles" wrote in message
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Advice please on possibly cutting a trench through up to a fifth of this
tree's roots please...

Is there a way to do this without seriously injuring this wonderful tree?

Where on the internet or in the real world can I get advice?
What questions should I be asking?

We need to remove the rainwater from some roofs which was inserted into
the sewer a few decades ago and hence floods the septic tank whenever it
rains and leads to a pong in the lane!

video: https://youtu.be/b3GVYTpZEw4

facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dicegeorge/...59282739254882

On 27/05/2021 11:31, George Miles wrote:
Advice please on possibly cutting a trench through up to a fifth of this tree's roots please...

Is there a way to do this without seriously injuring this wonderful tree?

Damage is damage. Minimise it by putting the run further from the tree,
maybe the other side of the wall, from where your wheelbrrow is.

Roots are invasive re your pipework...