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Old Interior Doors
Loads of old panelled Victorian doors in our house. OF course, these
have been painted many times and the panels are immovable and often cracked. Filling and painting is a bit Forth bridge like. If I had some thin material which wouldn't crack and looked like wood or maybe was wood, I could cover the panels with this. The slight loss of depth probably wouldn't show. What might work? -- Cheers Clive |
Old Interior Doors
Clive Arthur wrote:
Loads of old panelled Victorian doors in our house. OF course, these have been painted many times and the panels are immovable and often cracked. Filling and painting is a bit Forth bridge like. If I had some thin material which wouldn't crack and looked like wood or maybe was wood, I could cover the panels with this. The slight loss of depth probably wouldn't show. What might work? You can get thin MDF and thin plywood. I think the thinnest MDF I've seen is around 1/8", 3mm. That won't 'look like wood' really, though it is nice and smooth. You can get plywood thinner than 1/8", I remember using 1/16" ply on a model boat many moons ago. That would work pretty well I think, and it *is* wood! :-) -- Chris Green · |
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On 05/05/2021 11:07, Chris Green wrote:
Clive Arthur wrote: Loads of old panelled Victorian doors in our house. OF course, these have been painted many times and the panels are immovable and often cracked. Filling and painting is a bit Forth bridge like. If I had some thin material which wouldn't crack and looked like wood or maybe was wood, I could cover the panels with this. The slight loss of depth probably wouldn't show. What might work? You can get thin MDF and thin plywood. I think the thinnest MDF I've seen is around 1/8", 3mm. That won't 'look like wood' really, though it is nice and smooth. You can get plywood thinner than 1/8", I remember using 1/16" ply on a model boat many moons ago. That would work pretty well I think, and it *is* wood! :-) Actually, you can get 1mm MDF - eg eBay 124529554607 - and I've used this to stick to the bottom of some left over fancy tiles to use as pot stands etc. As you say, it doesn't look much like wood, it would probably stand out as too smooth. But would plywood also crack? -- Cheers Clive |
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On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 10:49:39 AM UTC+1, Clive Arthur wrote:
Loads of old panelled Victorian doors in our house. OF course, these have been painted many times and the panels are immovable and often cracked. Filling and painting is a bit Forth bridge like. If I had some thin material which wouldn't crack and looked like wood or maybe was wood, I could cover the panels with this. The slight loss of depth probably wouldn't show. What might work? -- Cheers Clive Originally the panels could move so that they wouldn't split. Overpainting them has fasened them to the sides so when they move they split. I would replace them with thin ply but make sure that they weren't painted in. Jonathan |
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On 05/05/2021 14:19, Jonathan wrote:
On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 10:49:39 AM UTC+1, Clive Arthur wrote: Loads of old panelled Victorian doors in our house. OF course, these have been painted many times and the panels are immovable and often cracked. Filling and painting is a bit Forth bridge like. If I had some thin material which wouldn't crack and looked like wood or maybe was wood, I could cover the panels with this. The slight loss of depth probably wouldn't show. What might work? -- Cheers Clive Originally the panels could move so that they wouldn't split. Overpainting them has fasened them to the sides so when they move they split. I would replace them with thin ply but make sure that they weren't painted in. Jonathan Thanks, I realise the panels should be free, but I want a quick fix. -- Cheers Clive |
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Clive Arthur wrote: Loads of old panelled Victorian doors in our house. OF course, these have been painted many times and the panels are immovable and often cracked. Filling and painting is a bit Forth bridge like. If I had some thin material which wouldn't crack and looked like wood or maybe was wood, I could cover the panels with this. The slight loss of depth probably wouldn't show. What might work? I had the same problem - back in the day when stripped wood was popular. Still is with me. I carefully cut the beading off one side. It's a stock moulding in London, so possible to replace with new if needed. Bashed the broken panel out - it fits in a groove in the frame. Found some suitable thickness ply with a veneer that looked OK. Cut it slightly oversize so it could be wiggled (and glued) into the groove. On the side of the door where I'd removed the moulding (chose the worst side for this) I removed it from the other three panels and replaced with new - glued and pinned. Stained both the moulding and panel to the best match I could achieve and gave the door a coat of clear matt varnish. Still pleased with the results. Did much the same to the panelling round the bay window. I'm sure there might be a high tech filler to sort the cracks in the panelling that could be stained to be invisible. They'd certainly manage that on The Repair Shop. But I'm talking about 40 years ago. -- *Marriage changes passion - suddenly you're in bed with a relative* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 10:49:39 AM UTC+1, Clive Arthur wrote:
Loads of old panelled Victorian doors in our house. OF course, these have been painted many times and the panels are immovable and often cracked. Filling and painting is a bit Forth bridge like. If I had some thin material which wouldn't crack and looked like wood or maybe was wood, I could cover the panels with this. The slight loss of depth probably wouldn't show. What might work? -- Cheers Clive There are plenty of companies that will strip down old doors using a dipping process. Might be worthwhile doing and you might discover the door is in better condition than you imagine. Richard |
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On 05/05/2021 16:31, Tricky Dicky wrote:
There are plenty of companies that will strip down old doors using a dipping process. Might be worthwhile doing and you might discover the door is in better condition than you imagine. Or you may find the reason it was painted in the first place :) -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 5 May 2021 at 16:31:43 BST, "Tricky Dicky" wrote:
On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 10:49:39 AM UTC+1, Clive Arthur wrote: Loads of old panelled Victorian doors in our house. OF course, these have been painted many times and the panels are immovable and often cracked. Filling and painting is a bit Forth bridge like. If I had some thin material which wouldn't crack and looked like wood or maybe was wood, I could cover the panels with this. The slight loss of depth probably wouldn't show. What might work? -- Cheers Clive There are plenty of companies that will strip down old doors using a dipping process. Might be worthwhile doing and you might discover the door is in better condition than you imagine. Richard Yes, I did that. Some of them are a bit ropey but I've got used to it, and overall much prefer the look of a stripped door to painted. -- Cheers, Rob |
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On 05/05/2021 10:49, Clive Arthur wrote:
Loads of old panelled Victorian doors in our house.Â* OF course, these have been painted many times and the panels are immovable and often cracked.Â* Filling and painting is a bit Forth bridge like. If I had some thin material which wouldn't crack and looked like wood or maybe was wood, I could cover the panels with this.Â* The slight loss of depth probably wouldn't show. What might work? Ask Barry Bucknell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RVnzu0COFU |
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On 05/05/2021 17:42, alan_m wrote:
On 05/05/2021 16:31, Tricky Dicky wrote: There are plenty of companies that will strip down old doors using a dipping process. Might be worthwhile doing and you might discover the door is in better condition than you imagine. Or you may find the reason it was painted in the first place :) oh yes. Pine was the MDF of the victorian age, and they spent a long time covering up its awfulness. -- "Strange as it seems, no amount of learning can cure stupidity, and higher education positively fortifies it." - Stephen Vizinczey |
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On 05/05/2021 18:45, Andrew wrote:
On 05/05/2021 10:49, Clive Arthur wrote: Loads of old panelled Victorian doors in our house.Â* OF course, these have been painted many times and the panels are immovable and often cracked.Â* Filling and painting is a bit Forth bridge like. If I had some thin material which wouldn't crack and looked like wood or maybe was wood, I could cover the panels with this.Â* The slight loss of depth probably wouldn't show. What might work? Ask Barry Bucknell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RVnzu0COFU I remember my dad did that, and my first house had it on some doors which I removed PDQ. We had loads of woodchip paper too, but thankfully, no Artex. .. Aesthetically it was ****e, but it did give the doors more solidity and better sound and heat insulation. -- Cheers Clive |
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On 05/05/2021 10:49, Clive Arthur wrote:
Loads of old panelled Victorian doors in our house.Â* OF course, these have been painted many times and the panels are immovable and often cracked.Â* Filling and painting is a bit Forth bridge like. If I had some thin material which wouldn't crack and looked like wood or maybe was wood, I could cover the panels with this.Â* The slight loss of depth probably wouldn't show. What might work? Can you still get Fablon? |
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On 06/05/2021 08:37, TimW wrote:
On 05/05/2021 10:49, Clive Arthur wrote: Loads of old panelled Victorian doors in our house.Â* OF course, these have been painted many times and the panels are immovable and often cracked.Â* Filling and painting is a bit Forth bridge like. If I had some thin material which wouldn't crack and looked like wood or maybe was wood, I could cover the panels with this.Â* The slight loss of depth probably wouldn't show. What might work? Can you still get Fablon? I believe so. Ick. |
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On 05/05/2021 19:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 05/05/2021 17:42, alan_m wrote: On 05/05/2021 16:31, Tricky Dicky wrote: There are plenty of companies that will strip down old doors using a dipping process. Might be worthwhile doing and you might discover the door is in better condition than you imagine. Or you may find the reason it was painted in the first place :) oh yes. Pine was the MDF of the victorian age, and they spent a long time covering up its awfulness. I was "persuaded" once to strip stair spindles and banister back to wood. This was on something built a year before Queen Victoria's death. It was a exercise in complete frustration. The top layer of paint did come off with a liquid paint stripper to find that the undercoat was similar to tar. All skirting/picture rail etc seems to have painted in a thick dark brown varnish. Getting a few stair spindles back to near wood revealed poor quality wood and assembled with clout nails with nail holes filled with a a putty. I had the mistake of not just checking a small section before applying the paint stripper to most of the woodwork on the stairs. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 05/05/2021 18:45, Andrew wrote:
On 05/05/2021 10:49, Clive Arthur wrote: Loads of old panelled Victorian doors in our house.Â* OF course, these have been painted many times and the panels are immovable and often cracked.Â* Filling and painting is a bit Forth bridge like. If I had some thin material which wouldn't crack and looked like wood or maybe was wood, I could cover the panels with this.Â* The slight loss of depth probably wouldn't show. What might work? Ask Barry Bucknell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RVnzu0COFU My parents purchased a house in the 1960s and that is the first thing that was done to all the doors. The open under-stairs and all the way up the the banisters was also clad in hardboard. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 06/05/2021 14:12, alan_m wrote:
On 05/05/2021 19:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 05/05/2021 17:42, alan_m wrote: On 05/05/2021 16:31, Tricky Dicky wrote: There are plenty of companies that will strip down old doors using a dipping process. Might be worthwhile doing and you might discover the door is in better condition than you imagine. Or you may find the reason it was painted in the first place :) oh yes. Pine was the MDF of the victorian age, and they spent a long time covering up its awfulness. I was "persuaded" once to strip stair spindles and banister back to wood. This was on something built a year before Queen Victoria's death. It was a exercise in complete frustration. The top layer of paint did come off with a liquid paint stripper to find that the undercoat was similar to tar. All skirting/picture rail etc seems to have painted in a thick dark brown varnish.Â* Getting a few stair spindles back to near wood revealed poor quality wood and assembled with clout nails with nail holes filled with a a putty. I had the mistake of not just checking a small section before applying the paint stripper to most of the woodwork on the stairs. I have had similar experiences. For all its ghastliness a modern MDF fake panelled door is streets ahead of a stripped pine monstrosity, and if you want a real wood door, well buy one or make one https://www.ukoakdoors.co.uk/interna...georgian-doors £150 and up for solid oak. https://www.directdoors.com/collecti...internal-doors £130 for solid pine -- Labour - a bunch of rich people convincing poor people to vote for rich people by telling poor people that "other" rich people are the reason they are poor. Peter Thompson |
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On 06/05/2021 14:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 06/05/2021 14:12, alan_m wrote: On 05/05/2021 19:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 05/05/2021 17:42, alan_m wrote: On 05/05/2021 16:31, Tricky Dicky wrote: There are plenty of companies that will strip down old doors using a dipping process. Might be worthwhile doing and you might discover the door is in better condition than you imagine. Or you may find the reason it was painted in the first place :) oh yes. Pine was the MDF of the victorian age, and they spent a long time covering up its awfulness. I was "persuaded" once to strip stair spindles and banister back to wood. This was on something built a year before Queen Victoria's death. It was a exercise in complete frustration. The top layer of paint did come off with a liquid paint stripper to find that the undercoat was similar to tar. All skirting/picture rail etc seems to have painted in a thick dark brown varnish.Â* Getting a few stair spindles back to near wood revealed poor quality wood and assembled with clout nails with nail holes filled with a a putty. I had the mistake of not just checking a small section before applying the paint stripper to most of the woodwork on the stairs. I have had similar experiences. For all its ghastliness a modern MDF fake panelled door is streets ahead of a stripped pine monstrosity, and if you want a real wood door, well buy one or make one https://www.ukoakdoors.co.uk/interna...georgian-doors £150 and up for solid oak. https://www.directdoors.com/collecti...internal-doors £130 for solid pine https://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-Cobh...m/p/9000229496 and £90 for oak veneered MDF. Which looks just like real oak, but doesn't feel like it -- Canada is all right really, though not for the whole weekend. "Saki" |
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alan_m wrote: On 05/05/2021 18:45, Andrew wrote: On 05/05/2021 10:49, Clive Arthur wrote: Loads of old panelled Victorian doors in our house. OF course, these have been painted many times and the panels are immovable and often cracked. Filling and painting is a bit Forth bridge like. If I had some thin material which wouldn't crack and looked like wood or maybe was wood, I could cover the panels with this. The slight loss of depth probably wouldn't show. What might work? Ask Barry Bucknell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RVnzu0COFU My parents purchased a house in the 1960s and that is the first thing that was done to all the doors. The open under-stairs and all the way up the the banisters was also clad in hardboard. The first thing I did when we moved into a 1911 house in 1977 was to remove the hardboard from the doors and and banisters. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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charles wrote: In article , alan_m wrote: On 05/05/2021 18:45, Andrew wrote: On 05/05/2021 10:49, Clive Arthur wrote: Loads of old panelled Victorian doors in our house. OF course, these have been painted many times and the panels are immovable and often cracked. Filling and painting is a bit Forth bridge like. If I had some thin material which wouldn't crack and looked like wood or maybe was wood, I could cover the panels with this. The slight loss of depth probably wouldn't show. What might work? Ask Barry Bucknell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RVnzu0COFU My parents purchased a house in the 1960s and that is the first thing that was done to all the doors. The open under-stairs and all the way up the the banisters was also clad in hardboard. The first thing I did when we moved into a 1911 house in 1977 was to remove the hardboard from the doors and and banisters. I was perhaps lucky that the previous owners of this place weren't into DIY. So it was largely untouched. Apart from repairs to WW2 bomb damage - so all 'new' plasterboard ceilings. Sadly, the cornices went at the same time. -- *Is there another word for synonym? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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