This is for a friend. She has been listening to some podcasts from AMI audio
in Canada for years, but a couple of weeks ago, no device could connect to
these addresses giving there is a data error or other mystifying message.
After checking with some others on BT and finding they have the same issue,
her husband rang BT who were mystified. Typical one might say, but he
spotted the BT protect or whatever its called when looking at the router to
see if something had been altered. He turned it off and it all came back,
but there were dire warnings about doing this. Neither are particularly
technical and BT are useless, so he asked me if there was a way to let stuff
through but keep protecting whatever it is that it protects.
It sounds to me a bit like a Nanny knows best approach to security and as
they have no children, both are retired, it hardly seems appropriate to
default on some kind of adult content filter, as some of the podcasts of
course cover adult themes.
Any ideas?


I know the address has moved recently, but its still get attable on the
phone and Echo dot here on Virgin. I guess I'll need to presubscribed to get
the true address and see if I can find out what the change meant.
Brian
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Brian Gaff wrote:

he asked me if there was a way to let stuff
through but keep protecting whatever it is that it protects.

According to the BT page, it's an all or nothing system, can't be
overridden per device.

Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote

This is for a friend. She has been listening to some podcasts from AMI
audio in Canada for years, but a couple of weeks ago, no device could
connect to these addresses giving there is a data error or other
mystifying message.
After checking with some others on BT and finding they have the same
issue, her husband rang BT who were mystified. Typical one might say, but
he spotted the BT protect or whatever its called when looking at the
router to see if something had been altered. He turned it off and it all
came back, but there were dire warnings about doing this. Neither are
particularly technical and BT are useless, so he asked me if there was a
way to let stuff through but keep protecting whatever it is that it
protects.
It sounds to me a bit like a Nanny knows best approach to security and as
they have no children, both are retired, it hardly seems appropriate to
default on some kind of adult content filter, as some of the podcasts of
course cover adult themes.

It isnt about adult themes, its about security.

I do get it at times on the BBC RSS feed.

Any ideas?

Just let it thru because you know it’s a safe site.

I know the address has moved recently, but its still get attable on the
phone and Echo dot here on Virgin. I guess I'll need to presubscribed to
get the true address and see if I can find out what the change meant.

Nothing much, they just don’t know that site is safe yet.

On 26/03/2021 09:46, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 07:54:15 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:

Brian Gaff wrote:

he asked me if there was a way to let stuff through but keep protecting
whatever it is that it protects.

According to the BT page, it's an all or nothing system, can't be
overridden per device.

A very good reason for disabling any ISP provided crap and only using
what you provide.

I dread to think what's squirrelled away inside my Virgin Superhub if I
was using it as a hub.

Also using my own DNS seems sensible.

I have never ever used an ISP supplied or managed router in my life.



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On 26/03/2021 10:44, Jethro_uk wrote:

Back in the day with ADSL I was saddled with a BT 2Wire. But that was for
work, so horses for courses.


Possibly that thing deserves an award for the most locked down device
ever created?

Came with a good power supply for my other projects :-)

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Adrian Caspersz wrote:

Jethro_uk wrote:

Back in the day with ADSL I was saddled with a BT 2Wire. But that was for
work, so horses for courses.

Possibly that thing deserves an award for the most locked down device
ever created?

Came with a good power supply for my other projects :-)

It's bin day, so a 2wire, a couple of cisco 8xx and an old netgear have
all been chucked, my only spare router now is a billion 8800NL which can
at least do VDSL.

On 26/03/2021 10:44, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 09:56:04 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 26/03/2021 09:46, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 07:54:15 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:

Brian Gaff wrote:

he asked me if there was a way to let stuff through but keep
protecting whatever it is that it protects.

According to the BT page, it's an all or nothing system, can't be
overridden per device.

A very good reason for disabling any ISP provided crap and only using
what you provide.

I dread to think what's squirrelled away inside my Virgin Superhub if I
was using it as a hub.

Also using my own DNS seems sensible.

I have never ever used an ISP supplied or managed router in my life.

Back in the day with ADSL I was saddled with a BT 2Wire. But that was for
work, so horses for courses.

For my own internet, it's a Superhub in modem mode and then my own TP
Link and piHole lash up.

Too much complexity. I just forked out on a Draytek.. even better than
my beloved Cisco SOHO router which ran hotter than a Hollywood starlet.

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fill the world with fools.€�

Herbert Spencer

On 26/03/2021 12:30, Andy Burns wrote:
Adrian Caspersz wrote:

Jethro_uk wrote:

Back in the day with ADSL I was saddled with a BT 2Wire. But that was
for
work, so horses for courses.

Possibly that thing deserves an award for the most locked down device
ever created?

Came with a good power supply for my other projects :-)

It's bin day, so a 2wire, a couple of cisco 8xx and an old netgear have
all been chucked, my only spare router now is a billion 8800NL which can
at least do VDSL.

Ah the joy. Mine does ADSL VDSL or straight Ethernet.

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who talks little,When his work is done, his aim fulfilled,They will say,
€œWe did this ourselves.€�

ۥ Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

AhÂ* the joy. Mine does ADSL VDSL or straight Ethernet.

My "live" router can use VDSL, ADSL, Ethernet or 4G for its WAN port (BT
home hub5a, but without BT's firmware)

I don't think my friends would be up to replacing the bt router, so they
have to make the decision forgo lots of content for the blind from Canadian
ami.ca or switch it off. Most of the BT folk they spoke to had never heard
of the system, but one mentioned it was introduced to protect children, like
what? I mean how does that work.
Brian

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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Ah the joy. Mine does ADSL VDSL or straight Ethernet.

My "live" router can use VDSL, ADSL, Ethernet or 4G for its WAN port (BT
home hub5a, but without BT's firmware)

The big error though is that there is no way for people like blind users who
use a lot of audio streamed media, need to have these sites working on their
echos and specialisttech and phones. ami iis accessible media, a bit ironic,
don't you feel?
Brian

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Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote

This is for a friend. She has been listening to some podcasts from AMI
audio in Canada for years, but a couple of weeks ago, no device could
connect to these addresses giving there is a data error or other
mystifying message.
After checking with some others on BT and finding they have the same
issue, her husband rang BT who were mystified. Typical one might say, but
he spotted the BT protect or whatever its called when looking at the
router to see if something had been altered. He turned it off and it all
came back, but there were dire warnings about doing this. Neither are
particularly technical and BT are useless, so he asked me if there was a
way to let stuff through but keep protecting whatever it is that it
protects.
It sounds to me a bit like a Nanny knows best approach to security and as
they have no children, both are retired, it hardly seems appropriate to
default on some kind of adult content filter, as some of the podcasts of
course cover adult themes.

It isnt about adult themes, its about security.

I do get it at times on the BBC RSS feed.

Any ideas?

Just let it thru because you know it’s a safe site.

I know the address has moved recently, but its still get attable on the
phone and Echo dot here on Virgin. I guess I'll need to presubscribed to
get the true address and see if I can find out what the change meant.

Nothing much, they just don’t know that site is safe yet.