DIYbanter

DIYbanter (https://www.diybanter.com/)
-   UK diy (https://www.diybanter.com/uk-diy/)
-   -   robust labelling system? (https://www.diybanter.com/uk-diy/685570-robust-labelling-system.html)

SH[_4_] March 20th 21 08:26 PM

robust labelling system?
 
Right...

I grow strawberries in a greenhouse. I use 14 litre builders buckets
with drainage holes drilled into the bottom.

I have 45 said buckets in a greenhouse with an automatic fertigation system.

Last year I had Elsanta strawberries.

This year I now have 4 varieties, Honoeye, Cambridge gold and Florence
as well as the aforementioned Elsanta as some crop earlier and some crop
later to widen out the harvest season.

Now I also grow new strawberry plants every year from the stolons from
the current plants.


Now I need a robust labelling system that (a) tells me what the breed is
and (b) what its birth year was.



sticky labels will come off easily.

permanent marker pens fade in the sunlight.

Those white sticks get easily knocked out out the soil.

I dont mind marking the buckets directly but bear in mind I need to be
able to reuse the bucket once the strawberry plants has been binned when
reaching age 3.

I could drill holes into the rim of the bucket to indicate 1 or 2 or 3
holes for year but what about the breed of the plant? square hole,
triangular hole, slot hole and round hole perhaps? where would one get
such a puncher?


SH[_4_] March 20th 21 08:27 PM

robust labelling system?
 
On 20/03/2021 20:26, SH wrote:
Right...

I grow strawberries in a greenhouse. I use 14 litre builders buckets
with drainage holes drilled into the bottom.

I have 45 said buckets in a greenhouse with an automatic fertigation
system.

Last year I had Elsanta strawberries.

This year I now have 4 varieties, Honoeye, Cambridge gold and Florence
as well as the aforementioned Elsanta as some crop earlier and some crop
later to widen out the harvest season.

Now I also grow new strawberry plants every year from the stolons from
the current plants.


I throw strawberry plants in the compost bin after 3 years (fruit yield
is poor thereafter so all strawberry plants are always 3 years old or
younger.)

Now I need a robust labelling system that (a) tells me what the breed is
and (b) what its birth year was.

sticky labels will come off easily.

permanent marker pens fade in the sunlight.

Those white sticks get easily knocked out out the soil.

I dont mind marking the buckets directly but bear in mind I need to be
able to reuse the bucket once the strawberry plants has been binned when
reaching age 3.

I could drill holes into the rim of the bucket to indicate 1 or 2 or 3
holes for year but what about the breed of the plant? square hole,
triangular hole, slot hole and round hole perhaps? where would one get
such a puncher?



williamwright March 20th 21 08:50 PM

robust labelling system?
 
On 20/03/2021 20:26, SH wrote:

Now I need a robust labelling system that (a) tells me what the breed is
and (b) what its birth year was.


Dymo Rhino 4200 Label Printer With QWERTY (UK) Keyboard would be
perfect. I use one for outdoor labels. They don't fade or fall off.

Bill

SH[_4_] March 20th 21 08:57 PM

robust labelling system?
 
On 20/03/2021 20:50, williamwright wrote:
On 20/03/2021 20:26, SH wrote:

Now I need a robust labelling system that (a) tells me what the breed
is and (b) what its birth year was.


Dymo Rhino 4200 Label Printer With QWERTY (UK) Keyboard would be
perfect. I use one for outdoor labels. They don't fade or fall off.

Bill



Thats an interesting thought......

I do have this machine as it happens:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dymo-S08839..._t3_B006QMASNU

The buckets I use are these:

https://www.diy.com/departments/prop...0711444_BQ.prd

with 17 holes drilled into their bottoms....

I am assuming the black polymer is polypropylene and I did wonder if the
labels from my machine would actually stick to polypropylene?

(they make cheap plant pots at 97p :-) )

given the heat and water in said greenhouse, i was concerned the labels
would simply fall off the buckets.....

S Viemeister[_2_] March 20th 21 09:03 PM

robust labelling system?
 
On 20/03/2021 20:50, williamwright wrote:
On 20/03/2021 20:26, SH wrote:

Now I need a robust labelling system that (a) tells me what the breed
is and (b) what its birth year was.


Dymo Rhino 4200 Label Printer With QWERTY (UK) Keyboard would be
perfect. I use one for outdoor labels. They don't fade or fall off.

Bill


The Brother label makers also work very well.

newshound March 20th 21 09:18 PM

robust labelling system?
 
On 20/03/2021 21:03, S Viemeister wrote:
On 20/03/2021 20:50, williamwright wrote:
On 20/03/2021 20:26, SH wrote:

Now I need a robust labelling system that (a) tells me what the breed
is and (b) what its birth year was.


Dymo Rhino 4200 Label Printer With QWERTY (UK) Keyboard would be
perfect. I use one for outdoor labels. They don't fade or fall off.

Bill


The Brother label makers also work very well.


Another very durable and robust labelling product is Tulip Slick "fabric
paint". This has the advantage of adhering to uneven surfaces better
than printer tape, also available in black, white, and colours. I use it
for marking the 13A plugs on power tools and computer equipment. Also
"stacking" toolboxes and multi-part containers.

alan_m March 20th 21 09:46 PM

robust labelling system?
 
On 20/03/2021 20:26, SH wrote:


sticky labels will come off easily.


Have you tried the Brother tape labels

Many different models of machines at various price points
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brother-P-T.../dp/B013DG2FNW

many different label colour combinations
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_f...+tape&_sacat=0

I've had these tape labels stick to plastic flower pots very well and
I've only seen fading on labels 10+ years old - but still readable.


--
mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

Andy Burns[_13_] March 21st 21 06:49 AM

robust labelling system?
 
williamwright wrote:

SH wrote:

Now I need a robust labelling system that (a) tells me what the breed
is and (b) what its birth year was.


Dymo Rhino 4200 Label Printer With QWERTY (UK) Keyboard would be
perfect. I use one for outdoor labels. They don't fade or fall off.


Where the "normal" D1 tapes do flake off sooner or later (even indoors)
I've had good results from the D1 "permanent" tapes, I see they have new
D1 "durable" tapes, e.g.

https://www.dymo.com/en-GB/d1-permanent-labels-19mm-d1-permanent-labels-3-4-in

Andy Burns[_13_] March 21st 21 06:57 AM

robust labelling system?
 
SH wrote:

I do have this machine as it happens:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dymo-S08839..._t3_B006QMASNU

given the heat and water in said greenhouse, i was concerned the labels
would simply fall off the buckets.....


They don't make the same specialist tapes for the LetraTag machines,
look for the machines (e.g. LabelManager) that take the D1 tapes up to
24mm wide.

Andy Burns[_13_] March 21st 21 07:14 AM

robust labelling system?
 
Andy Burns wrote:

I see they have new D1 "durable" tapes, e.g.

https://www.dymo.com/en-GB/d1-permanent-labels-19mm-d1-permanent-labels-3-4-in


Sorry wrong link

https://www.dymo.com/en-GB/dymo%C2%AE-d1-durable-labels-%2812mm-x-5-5m%29-d1-durable-labels

S Viemeister[_2_] March 21st 21 08:32 AM

robust labelling system?
 
On 20/03/2021 21:46, alan_m wrote:

Have you tried the Brother tape labels

Many different models of machines at various price points
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brother-P-T.../dp/B013DG2FNW

many different label colour combinations
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_f...+tape&_sacat=0

I've had these tape labels stick to plastic flower pots very well and
I've only seen fading on labels 10+ years old - but still readable.

We've used those tapes to label the mailbox at the end of the drive -
the labels have lasted longer than the mailboxes. No fading, no peeling.


Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) March 21st 21 08:46 AM

robust labelling system?
 
My mother when she was alive used some kind of thing made by Scotch. Yes
they were glued on but were not dymo, you just prized then off from what you
stuck them on at the end of the year if you wanted to change them, trouble
is I cannot recall what they were called, white on a black background,
looked almost engraved and though you could bend them a little, they were
best on a clean dry flat surface.
I think she inherited it from her place of work when they shut down.
Brian

--

This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from...
The Sofa of Brian Gaff...

Blind user, so no pictures please
Note this Signature is meaningless.!
"SH" wrote in message
...
Right...

I grow strawberries in a greenhouse. I use 14 litre builders buckets with
drainage holes drilled into the bottom.

I have 45 said buckets in a greenhouse with an automatic fertigation
system.

Last year I had Elsanta strawberries.

This year I now have 4 varieties, Honoeye, Cambridge gold and Florence as
well as the aforementioned Elsanta as some crop earlier and some crop
later to widen out the harvest season.

Now I also grow new strawberry plants every year from the stolons from the
current plants.


Now I need a robust labelling system that (a) tells me what the breed is
and (b) what its birth year was.



sticky labels will come off easily.

permanent marker pens fade in the sunlight.

Those white sticks get easily knocked out out the soil.

I dont mind marking the buckets directly but bear in mind I need to be
able to reuse the bucket once the strawberry plants has been binned when
reaching age 3.

I could drill holes into the rim of the bucket to indicate 1 or 2 or 3
holes for year but what about the breed of the plant? square hole,
triangular hole, slot hole and round hole perhaps? where would one get
such a puncher?




Andy Bennet[_2_] March 21st 21 08:48 AM

robust labelling system?
 
On 20/03/2021 20:26, SH wrote:
Right...

I grow strawberries in a greenhouse. I use 14 litre builders buckets
with drainage holes drilled into the bottom.

I have 45 said buckets in a greenhouse with an automatic fertigation
system.

Last year I had Elsanta strawberries.

This year I now have 4 varieties, Honoeye, Cambridge gold and Florence
as well as the aforementioned Elsanta as some crop earlier and some crop
later to widen out the harvest season.

Now I also grow new strawberry plants every year from the stolons from
the current plants.


Now I need a robust labelling system that (a) tells me what the breed is
and (b) what its birth year was.



sticky labels will come off easily.

permanent marker pens fade in the sunlight.

Those white sticks get easily knocked out out the soil.

I dont mind marking the buckets directly but bear in mind I need to be
able to reuse the bucket once the strawberry plants has been binned when
reaching age 3.

I could drill holes into the rim of the bucket to indicate 1 or 2 or 3
holes for year but what about the breed of the plant? square hole,
triangular hole, slot hole and round hole perhaps? where would one get
such a puncher?


Drill holes in rim and thread through coloured tyraps. I'm sure you can
come up with a useful code for a sequence of colours.
Easy/quick/bombproof and replaceable.

charles March 21st 21 09:49 AM

robust labelling system?
 
In article ,
Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) wrote:
My mother when she was alive used some kind of thing made by Scotch. Yes
they were glued on but were not dymo, you just prized then off from what
you stuck them on at the end of the year if you wanted to change them,
trouble is I cannot recall what they were called, white on a black
background, looked almost engraved and though you could bend them a
little, they were best on a clean dry flat surface.
I think she inherited it from her place of work when they shut down.
Brian


Traffolite? 3 layer black laminate with the centre white. Etch or engrave
the outer and you got white lettering.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

Jim White March 21st 21 10:05 AM

robust labelling system?
 
In article , says...

Right...

I grow strawberries in a greenhouse. I use 14 litre builders buckets
with drainage holes drilled into the bottom.

I have 45 said buckets in a greenhouse with an automatic fertigation system.

Last year I had Elsanta strawberries.

This year I now have 4 varieties, Honoeye, Cambridge gold and Florence
as well as the aforementioned Elsanta as some crop earlier and some crop
later to widen out the harvest season.

Now I also grow new strawberry plants every year from the stolons from
the current plants.


Now I need a robust labelling system that (a) tells me what the breed is
and (b) what its birth year was.



sticky labels will come off easily.

permanent marker pens fade in the sunlight.

Those white sticks get easily knocked out out the soil.

I dont mind marking the buckets directly but bear in mind I need to be
able to reuse the bucket once the strawberry plants has been binned when
reaching age 3.

I could drill holes into the rim of the bucket to indicate 1 or 2 or 3
holes for year but what about the breed of the plant? square hole,
triangular hole, slot hole and round hole perhaps? where would one get
such a puncher?


Find a heritage railway with a luggage label / name tag stamp machine on
the platform.

Nightjar March 21st 21 10:35 AM

robust labelling system?
 
On 20/03/2021 20:26, SH wrote:
Right...

I grow strawberries in a greenhouse. I use 14 litre builders buckets
with drainage holes drilled into the bottom.

I have 45 said buckets in a greenhouse with an automatic fertigation
system.

Last year I had Elsanta strawberries.

This year I now have 4 varieties, Honoeye, Cambridge gold and Florence
as well as the aforementioned Elsanta as some crop earlier and some crop
later to widen out the harvest season.

Now I also grow new strawberry plants every year from the stolons from
the current plants.


Now I need a robust labelling system that (a) tells me what the breed is
and (b) what its birth year was....




Aluminium labels:

https://alitags.com/products-aluminium-tags.html

Metal letter and number punches:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Steel-Numbe...Number+Punches

Plus a hammer..

--
Colin Bignell

alan_m March 21st 21 10:36 AM

robust labelling system?
 
On 21/03/2021 08:32, S Viemeister wrote:
On 20/03/2021 21:46, alan_m wrote:

Have you tried the Brother tape labels

Many different models of machines at various price points
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brother-P-T.../dp/B013DG2FNW


many different label colour combinations
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_f...+tape&_sacat=0

I've had these tape labels stick to plastic flower pots very well and
I've only seen fading on labels 10+ years old - but still readable.

We've used those tapes to label the mailbox at the end of the drive -
the labels have lasted longer than the mailboxes. No fading, no peeling.


It may depend on the colour of the tape. I've tended to use the
fluorescent yellow background tapes. A white background may be better,
but as I said my faded tape was still readable after 10 years.

As a side issue, I've has the "day-glo" fluorescent paint sold in rattle
cans fade away to almost nothing within two years when exposed outside
to the sun only in the mornings (in shade after approx 11am). The paint
had been further protected by a clear coat.

--
mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

jkn March 21st 21 10:40 AM

robust labelling system?
 
On Saturday, March 20, 2021 at 8:27:40 PM UTC, SH wrote:
On 20/03/2021 20:26, SH wrote:
Right...

I grow strawberries in a greenhouse. I use 14 litre builders buckets
with drainage holes drilled into the bottom.

I have 45 said buckets in a greenhouse with an automatic fertigation
system.

Last year I had Elsanta strawberries.

This year I now have 4 varieties, Honoeye, Cambridge gold and Florence
as well as the aforementioned Elsanta as some crop earlier and some crop
later to widen out the harvest season.

Now I also grow new strawberry plants every year from the stolons from
the current plants.

I throw strawberry plants in the compost bin after 3 years (fruit yield
is poor thereafter so all strawberry plants are always 3 years old or
younger.)


Separate to your query, but since you seem to know your strawberries...

I have a couple of strawberry beds and have been a bit lax about cutting
off runners etc. I am about to tidy things up; is it worth clearing out the
older plants and letting the new ones formed from runners grow on; or should
I clear the whole lot out?

Thanks for your advice
J^n

S Viemeister[_2_] March 21st 21 06:26 PM

robust labelling system?
 
On 21/03/2021 10:36, alan_m wrote:
On 21/03/2021 08:32, S Viemeister wrote:
On 20/03/2021 21:46, alan_m wrote:

Have you tried the Brother tape labels

Many different models of machines at various price points
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brother-P-T.../dp/B013DG2FNW


many different label colour combinations
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_f...+tape&_sacat=0

I've had these tape labels stick to plastic flower pots very well and
I've only seen fading on labels 10+ years old - but still readable.

We've used those tapes to label the mailbox at the end of the drive -
the labels have lasted longer than the mailboxes. No fading, no peeling.


It may depend on the colour of the tape. I've tended to use the
fluorescent yellow background tapes. A white background may be better,
but as I said my faded tape was still readable after 10 years.

As a side issue, I've has the "day-glo" fluorescent paint sold in rattle
cans fade away to almost nothing within two years when exposed outside
to the sun only in the mornings (in shade after approx 11am). The paint
had been further protected by a clear coat.

I've noticed the black on red tape fading outside, but the majority of
labels I make are black on white, white on black, and either black or
white on clear, and none of those have faded, outside or inside.

Red on white is used here to identify certain electrical items, but
that's inside, and they haven't faded.

Tim Lamb[_2_] March 21st 21 07:33 PM

robust labelling system?
 
In message , S Viemeister
writes
On 21/03/2021 10:36, alan_m wrote:
On 21/03/2021 08:32, S Viemeister wrote:
On 20/03/2021 21:46, alan_m wrote:

Have you tried the Brother tape labels

Many different models of machines at various price points

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brother-P-T...Maker/dp/B013D


many different label colour combinations

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_f...60353.m570.l13
13&_nkw=bother+label+tape&_sacat=0
I've had these tape labels stick to plastic flower pots very well
and I've only seen fading on labels 10+ years old - but still readable.

We've used those tapes to label the mailbox at the end of the drive
- the labels have lasted longer than the mailboxes. No fading, no
peeling.

It may depend on the colour of the tape. I've tended to use the
fluorescent yellow background tapes. A white background may be better,
but as I said my faded tape was still readable after 10 years.
As a side issue, I've has the "day-glo" fluorescent paint sold in
rattle cans fade away to almost nothing within two years when exposed
outside to the sun only in the mornings (in shade after approx 11am).
The paint had been further protected by a clear coat.

I've noticed the black on red tape fading outside, but the majority of
labels I make are black on white, white on black, and either black or
white on clear, and none of those have faded, outside or inside.

Red on white is used here to identify certain electrical items, but
that's inside, and they haven't faded.


Curiously, pencil lasts quite well.

Agreed that the garden centre white markers are inadequate for your job.

--
Tim Lamb

ss March 21st 21 08:25 PM

robust labelling system?
 
On 21/03/2021 06:57, Andy Burns wrote:
SH wrote:

I do have this machine as it happens:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dymo-S08839..._t3_B006QMASNU

given the heat and water in said greenhouse, i was concerned the
labels would simply fall off the buckets.....


They don't make the same specialist tapes for the LetraTag machines,
look for the machines (e.g. LabelManager) that take the D1 tapes up to
24mm wide.


OR....
If the buckets are in a static position for the year then you could do a
spreadsheet / word type document on the computer detailing each bucket
and its position. This could then be easily updated as required.

Rod Speed March 21st 21 09:31 PM

robust labelling system?
 


"ss" wrote in message
...
On 21/03/2021 06:57, Andy Burns wrote:
SH wrote:

I do have this machine as it happens:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dymo-S08839..._t3_B006QMASNU
given the heat and water in said greenhouse, i was concerned the labels
would simply fall off the buckets.....


They don't make the same specialist tapes for the LetraTag machines, look
for the machines (e.g. LabelManager) that take the D1 tapes up to 24mm
wide.


OR....
If the buckets are in a static position for the year then you could do a
spreadsheet / word type document on the computer detailing each bucket and
its position. This could then be easily updated as required.


With my beer brewing I basically serial number the containers
and keep a database of what each container has in it. Not as
convenient to use as a label on the container itself tho.


Peeler[_4_] March 21st 21 10:19 PM

Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
 
On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 08:31:17 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:



With my beer brewing


Tell them that you ALSO make your own marmalade and bake your own bread!

TYPICAL behaviour by a typical sociopathic male, senile Rodent!

And ALSO typical of your kind: you don't believe that your sociopathy really
SHOWS! BG

--
"Who or What is Rod Speed?

Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed
is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can
enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard
man" on the InterNet."
https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/

newshound March 21st 21 10:20 PM

robust labelling system?
 
On 21/03/2021 08:48, Andy Bennet wrote:



Drill holes in rim and thread through coloured tyraps. I'm sure you can
come up with a useful code for a sequence of colours.
Easy/quick/bombproof and replaceable.


I like that idea! Easy to change label on a given pot.

SH[_4_] March 21st 21 10:54 PM

robust labelling system?
 
On 21/03/2021 10:40, jkn wrote:
On Saturday, March 20, 2021 at 8:27:40 PM UTC, SH wrote:
On 20/03/2021 20:26, SH wrote:
Right...

I grow strawberries in a greenhouse. I use 14 litre builders buckets
with drainage holes drilled into the bottom.

I have 45 said buckets in a greenhouse with an automatic fertigation
system.

Last year I had Elsanta strawberries.

This year I now have 4 varieties, Honoeye, Cambridge gold and Florence
as well as the aforementioned Elsanta as some crop earlier and some crop
later to widen out the harvest season.

Now I also grow new strawberry plants every year from the stolons from
the current plants.

I throw strawberry plants in the compost bin after 3 years (fruit yield
is poor thereafter so all strawberry plants are always 3 years old or
younger.)


Separate to your query, but since you seem to know your strawberries...

I have a couple of strawberry beds and have been a bit lax about cutting
off runners etc. I am about to tidy things up; is it worth clearing out the
older plants and letting the new ones formed from runners grow on; or should
I clear the whole lot out?

Thanks for your advice
J^n


I grow new plants from the stolons (the correct name for runners).

I fill a pot with compost and use an elastic band to hold the plantlet
through the compost through the holes in bottom of the pot.

DO NOT CUT OFF from the mother plant yet, water and wait at least 2
weeks for the plantlet to take root. If the pot is smallishm you will
see some new roots coming out of the bottom of the pot.

Then and only then cut the stolon off at both ends (between mother plant
and new established "baby" strawberry plant.

Once the mother plant is more than 3 years old, bin it it will no longer
be a good cropper.

Then the new strawberry plant then gets transplanted into one of my
black buckets thats just been vacated by a departed geriatric plant.....

SH[_4_] March 21st 21 11:02 PM

robust labelling system?
 
On 21/03/2021 08:48, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 20/03/2021 20:26, SH wrote:
Right...

I grow strawberries in a greenhouse. I use 14 litre builders buckets
with drainage holes drilled into the bottom.

I have 45 said buckets in a greenhouse with an automatic fertigation
system.

Last year I had Elsanta strawberries.

This year I now have 4 varieties, Honoeye, Cambridge gold and Florence
as well as the aforementioned Elsanta as some crop earlier and some
crop later to widen out the harvest season.

Now I also grow new strawberry plants every year from the stolons from
the current plants.


Now I need a robust labelling system that (a) tells me what the breed
is and (b) what its birth year was.



sticky labels will come off easily.

permanent marker pens fade in the sunlight.

Those white sticks get easily knocked out out the soil.

I dont mind marking the buckets directly but bear in mind I need to be
able to reuse the bucket once the strawberry plants has been binned
when reaching age 3.

I could drill holes into the rim of the bucket to indicate 1 or 2 or 3
holes for year but what about the breed of the plant? square hole,
triangular hole, slot hole and round hole perhaps? where would one get
such a puncher?


Drill holes in rim and thread through coloured tyraps. I'm sure you can
come up with a useful code for a sequence of colours.
Easy/quick/bombproof and replaceable.


I like that idea.... :-)

1 vs 2 vs 3 drilled holes for year rotation and then white, red, green
and blue for strawberry plant breed.....

alan_m March 21st 21 11:32 PM

robust labelling system?
 
On 21/03/2021 23:02, SH wrote:
On 21/03/2021 08:48, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 20/03/2021 20:26, SH wrote:
Right...

I grow strawberries in a greenhouse. I use 14 litre builders buckets
with drainage holes drilled into the bottom.

I have 45 said buckets in a greenhouse with an automatic fertigation
system.

Last year I had Elsanta strawberries.

This year I now have 4 varieties, Honoeye, Cambridge gold and
Florence as well as the aforementioned Elsanta as some crop earlier
and some crop later to widen out the harvest season.

Now I also grow new strawberry plants every year from the stolons
from the current plants.


Now I need a robust labelling system that (a) tells me what the breed
is and (b) what its birth year was.



sticky labels will come off easily.

permanent marker pens fade in the sunlight.

Those white sticks get easily knocked out out the soil.

I dont mind marking the buckets directly but bear in mind I need to
be able to reuse the bucket once the strawberry plants has been
binned when reaching age 3.

I could drill holes into the rim of the bucket to indicate 1 or 2 or
3 holes for year but what about the breed of the plant? square hole,
triangular hole, slot hole and round hole perhaps? where would one
get such a puncher?


Drill holes in rim and thread through coloured tyraps. I'm sure you
can come up with a useful code for a sequence of colours.
Easy/quick/bombproof and replaceable.


I like that idea.... :-)

1 vs 2 vs 3 drilled holes for year rotation and then white, red, green
and blue for strawberry plant breed.....



--
mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

Bob Eager[_7_] March 21st 21 11:51 PM

robust labelling system?
 
On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 23:02:50 +0000, SH wrote:

I like that idea....

1 vs 2 vs 3 drilled holes for year rotation and then white, red, green
and blue for strawberry plant breed.....


Two holes and coloured cord in each. Ten colours and you have 100
combinations.

Cord: black, brown, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, grey, white.

--
My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub
wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message.
Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
*lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor

alan_m March 21st 21 11:53 PM

robust labelling system?
 
On 21/03/2021 08:48, Andy Bennet wrote:


Drill holes in rim and thread through coloured tyraps. I'm sure you can
come up with a useful code for a sequence of colours.
Easy/quick/bombproof and replaceable.


Many cheap coloured tie wraps/cable ties are not UV stable and will
become brittle within a season.

I have used a variety of substantial cable ties to hold a couple of my
(square) compost bin sides together and have to replace them on a
regular basis. The main fixings on my bins snap out when getting towards
fully loaded and I drilled holes and used cable ties instead. For around
12 months these ties can hold the strain but once exposed to full sun
during a summer they snap. However, I would expect in the OPs case that
cable ties under no stress would survive longer.


--
mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

Rod Speed March 22nd 21 12:56 AM

robust labelling system?
 


"Bob Eager" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 23:02:50 +0000, SH wrote:

I like that idea....

1 vs 2 vs 3 drilled holes for year rotation and then white, red, green
and blue for strawberry plant breed.....


Two holes and coloured cord in each. Ten colours and you have 100
combinations.

Cord: black, brown, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, grey, white.


Or just one hole and 4 colors for the 4 varietys he has.


Rod Speed March 22nd 21 12:59 AM

robust labelling system?
 


"alan_m" wrote in message
...
On 21/03/2021 08:48, Andy Bennet wrote:


Drill holes in rim and thread through coloured tyraps. I'm sure you can
come up with a useful code for a sequence of colours.
Easy/quick/bombproof and replaceable.


Many cheap coloured tie wraps/cable ties are not UV stable and will become
brittle within a season.

I have used a variety of substantial cable ties to hold a couple of my
(square) compost bin sides together and have to replace them on a regular
basis. The main fixings on my bins snap out when getting towards fully
loaded and I drilled holes and used cable ties instead. For around 12
months these ties can hold the strain but once exposed to full sun during
a summer they snap. However, I would expect in the OPs case that cable
ties under no stress would survive longer.


The things that are used as ties for plastic bags should last
longer because they have a wire inside them. Not as much
color variety tho. Likely colored with texta should last tho.


Rod Speed March 22nd 21 03:29 AM

robust labelling system?
 


"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...


"alan_m" wrote in message
...
On 21/03/2021 08:48, Andy Bennet wrote:


Drill holes in rim and thread through coloured tyraps. I'm sure you can
come up with a useful code for a sequence of colours.
Easy/quick/bombproof and replaceable.


Many cheap coloured tie wraps/cable ties are not UV stable and will
become brittle within a season.

I have used a variety of substantial cable ties to hold a couple of my
(square) compost bin sides together and have to replace them on a regular
basis. The main fixings on my bins snap out when getting towards fully
loaded and I drilled holes and used cable ties instead. For around 12
months these ties can hold the strain but once exposed to full sun during
a summer they snap. However, I would expect in the OPs case that cable
ties under no stress would survive longer.


The things that are used as ties for plastic bags should last longer
because they have a wire inside them.


The similar stuff that comes in rolls for tying up small plants like
tomatoes etc would be better but again just one color and not
clear how long texta would last on those. Nail varnish maybe.

Not as much color variety tho. Likely colored with texta should last tho.





williamwright March 22nd 21 06:08 AM

robust labelling system?
 
On 20/03/2021 20:57, SH wrote:
On 20/03/2021 20:50, williamwright wrote:
On 20/03/2021 20:26, SH wrote:

Now I need a robust labelling system that (a) tells me what the breed
is and (b) what its birth year was.


Dymo Rhino 4200 Label Printer With QWERTY (UK) Keyboard would be
perfect. I use one for outdoor labels. They don't fade or fall off.

Bill



Thats an interesting thought......

I do have this machine as it happens:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dymo-S08839..._t3_B006QMASNU


The buckets I use are these:

https://www.diy.com/departments/prop...0711444_BQ.prd


with 17 holes drilled into their bottoms....

I am assuming the black polymer is polypropylene and I did wonder if the
labels from my machine would actually stick to polypropylene?


I label polypropolene boxes and there isn't a problem.

Bill

williamwright March 22nd 21 06:10 AM

robust labelling system?
 
On 21/03/2021 06:49, Andy Burns wrote:
williamwright wrote:

SH wrote:

Now I need a robust labelling system that (a) tells me what the breed
is and (b) what its birth year was.


Dymo Rhino 4200 Label Printer With QWERTY (UK) Keyboard would be
perfect. I use one for outdoor labels. They don't fade or fall off.


Where the "normal" D1 tapes do flake off sooner or later (even indoors)


Mine don't ever fall off. If fact you can't get the bloody things off
sometimes.

Bill

williamwright March 22nd 21 06:11 AM

robust labelling system?
 
On 21/03/2021 10:36, alan_m wrote:
As a side issue, I've has the "day-glo" fluorescent paint sold in rattle
cans fade away to almost nothing within two years when exposed outside
to the sun only in the mornings (in shade after approx 11am). The paint
had been further protected by a clear coat.


Yes I've had that.

Bill

SH[_4_] March 22nd 21 09:09 AM

robust labelling system?
 
On 22/03/2021 00:56, Rod Speed wrote:


"Bob Eager" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 23:02:50 +0000, SH wrote:

I like that idea....

1 vs 2 vs 3 drilled holes for year rotation and then white, red, green
and blue for strawberry plant breed.....


Two holes and coloured cord in each. Ten colours and you have 100
combinations.

Cord: black, brown, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, grey,
white.


Or just one hole and 4 colors for the 4 varietys he has.


but I need to indicate how old the strawberry plant is as I discard
after 3 years......

The idea is that with 45 buckets, 15 are 1st year, 15 are 2nd year and
15 are third year......

S.

PeterC March 22nd 21 09:47 AM

robust labelling system?
 
On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 23:53:53 +0000, alan_m wrote:

On 21/03/2021 08:48, Andy Bennet wrote:


Drill holes in rim and thread through coloured tyraps. I'm sure you can
come up with a useful code for a sequence of colours.
Easy/quick/bombproof and replaceable.


Many cheap coloured tie wraps/cable ties are not UV stable and will
become brittle within a season.

I have used a variety of substantial cable ties to hold a couple of my
(square) compost bin sides together and have to replace them on a
regular basis. The main fixings on my bins snap out when getting towards
fully loaded and I drilled holes and used cable ties instead. For around
12 months these ties can hold the strain but once exposed to full sun
during a summer they snap. However, I would expect in the OPs case that
cable ties under no stress would survive longer.


Showing touching faith/gullibility, I used B&Q's garden tywraps on the
assumption that they'd be OK in sunlight. Lasted about 3 years and fell off,
so not fit for purpose.
I wanted something quite wide, adjustable and removable. Apart from being
f'useless long-term they were ideal.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

Peeler[_4_] March 22nd 21 10:16 AM

Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
 
On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 11:56:41 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


1 vs 2 vs 3 drilled holes for year rotation and then white, red, green
and blue for strawberry plant breed.....


Two holes and coloured cord in each. Ten colours and you have 100
combinations.

Cord: black, brown, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, grey, white.


Or just one hole and 4 colors for the 4 varietys he has.


You'd better worry about that big hole in your head, sociopath! What's this
with your wrong use of the plural that you clearly INSIST on using. That IS
a typical sociopathic thing, sociopath!

--
Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 86-year-old senile Australian
cretin's pathological trolling:
https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/

Peeler[_4_] March 22nd 21 10:18 AM

Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
 
On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 14:29:01 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


The similar stuff that comes in rolls for tying up small plants like
tomatoes etc would be better but again just one color and not
clear how long texta would last on those. Nail varnish maybe.


Is there nothing in this world you will NOT smartass about, senile smartass?
BG

--
"Who or What is Rod Speed?

Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed
is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can
enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard
man" on the InterNet."
https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/

charles March 22nd 21 10:31 AM

robust labelling system?
 
In article , PeterC
wrote:
On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 23:53:53 +0000, alan_m wrote:


On 21/03/2021 08:48, Andy Bennet wrote:


Drill holes in rim and thread through coloured tyraps. I'm sure you
can come up with a useful code for a sequence of colours.
Easy/quick/bombproof and replaceable.


Many cheap coloured tie wraps/cable ties are not UV stable and will
become brittle within a season.

I have used a variety of substantial cable ties to hold a couple of my
(square) compost bin sides together and have to replace them on a
regular basis. The main fixings on my bins snap out when getting
towards fully loaded and I drilled holes and used cable ties instead.
For around 12 months these ties can hold the strain but once exposed
to full sun during a summer they snap. However, I would expect in the
OPs case that cable ties under no stress would survive longer.


Showing touching faith/gullibility, I used B&Q's garden tywraps on the
assumption that they'd be OK in sunlight. Lasted about 3 years and fell
off, so not fit for purpose. I wanted something quite wide, adjustable
and removable. Apart from being f'useless long-term they were ideal.


Double sided velcro?

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:39 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 DIYbanter