A new job has popped-up: making the lid of an antique oak coffer
(blanket box) safe for kids. It would be easy to fit one of the
off-the-peg stays but this "box" dates from the mid 1600s so I want to
do something that is in keeping and can easily be removed. All ideas
gratefully received.

On 26/02/2021 12:10, wrote:
A new job has popped-up: making the lid of an antique oak coffer
(blanket box) safe for kids. It would be easy to fit one of the
off-the-peg stays but this "box" dates from the mid 1600s so I want to
do something that is in keeping and can easily be removed. All ideas
gratefully received.

hand forged 'wrought iron' effect cabin hook?

https://www.therusticmerchant.co.uk/...door-fittings/


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On 26/02/2021 12:10, wrote:
A new job has popped-up: making the lid of an antique oak coffer
(blanket box) safe for kids. It would be easy to fit one of the
off-the-peg stays but this "box" dates from the mid 1600s so I want to
do something that is in keeping and can easily be removed. All ideas
gratefully received.

Put a chain round it with a padlock.

Bill

On 26/02/2021 18:41, williamwright wrote:
On 26/02/2021 12:10, wrote:
A new job has popped-up: making the lid of an antique oak coffer
(blanket box) safe for kids. It would be easy to fit one of the
off-the-peg stays but this "box" dates from the mid 1600s so I want to
do something that is in keeping and can easily be removed. All ideas
gratefully received.

Put a chain round it with a padlock.

Bill
Good to see someone thinking "outside the box" ;-)

On 26/02/2021 12:10, wrote:
A new job has popped-up: making the lid of an antique oak coffer
(blanket box) safe for kids. It would be easy to fit one of the
off-the-peg stays but this "box" dates from the mid 1600s so I want to
do something that is in keeping and can easily be removed. All ideas
gratefully received.

Modern gas struts would not be in keeping, but how about a friction
damped stay?

On 26/02/2021 21:42, Steve Walker wrote:
On 26/02/2021 12:10, wrote:
A new job has popped-up: making the lid of an antique oak coffer
(blanket box) safe for kids. It would be easy to fit one of the
off-the-peg stays but this "box" dates from the mid 1600s so I want to
do something that is in keeping and can easily be removed. All ideas
gratefully received.

Modern gas struts would not be in keeping, but how about a friction
damped stay?

Doesn't it depend on the OPs definition of safe?
Kids cannot get access at all.
Kids can get access but heavy lid may drop on little fingers or heads.
Any mechanism that holds the lid open cannot trap/pinch little fingers.
Lid too heavy so some mechanical assistance is required to open it.
etc.

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On 26/02/2021 22:29, alan_m wrote:
On 26/02/2021 21:42, Steve Walker wrote:
On 26/02/2021 12:10, wrote:
A new job has popped-up: making the lid of an antique oak coffer
(blanket box) safe for kids. It would be easy to fit one of the
off-the-peg stays but this "box" dates from the mid 1600s so I want
to do something that is in keeping and can easily be removed. All
ideas gratefully received.

Modern gas struts would not be in keeping, but how about a friction
damped stay?

Doesn't it depend on the OPs definition of safe?
Kids cannot get access at all.
Kids can get access but heavy lid may drop on little fingers or heads.
Any mechanism that holds the lid open cannot trap/pinch little fingers.
Lid too heavy so some mechanical assistance is required to open it.
etc.

That's fair. I was thinking of something which allowed access but either
slowed the fall, or required a positive action to close, the lid.

On 26/02/2021 21:42, Steve Walker wrote:
On 26/02/2021 12:10, wrote:
A new job has popped-up: making the lid of an antique oak coffer
(blanket box) safe for kids. It would be easy to fit one of the
off-the-peg stays but this "box" dates from the mid 1600s so I want to
do something that is in keeping and can easily be removed. All ideas
gratefully received.

Modern gas struts would not be in keeping, but how about a friction
damped stay?
Yes, that's what I was thinking of but couldn't come-up with a foolproof
way of doing it. Another thought is to wind a couple of torsion springs
that operate on arms that partly counterbalance the lid. It may come
down to using a gas strut disguised in a bit of old oak, but only if I
can't devise something else.

On 26/02/2021 22:29, alan_m wrote:
On 26/02/2021 21:42, Steve Walker wrote:
On 26/02/2021 12:10, wrote:
A new job has popped-up: making the lid of an antique oak coffer
(blanket box) safe for kids. It would be easy to fit one of the
off-the-peg stays but this "box" dates from the mid 1600s so I want
to do something that is in keeping and can easily be removed. All
ideas gratefully received.

Modern gas struts would not be in keeping, but how about a friction
damped stay?

Doesn't it depend on the OPs definition of safe?
Kids cannot get access at all.
Kids can get access but heavy lid may drop on little fingers or heads.
Any mechanism that holds the lid open cannot trap/pinch little fingers.
Lid too heavy so some mechanical assistance is required to open it.
etc.

And also, just how valuable is this antique? One could envisage a "free
standing" solution that is not attached to it at all. Or something
minimally invasive, for example attached by screws that could
subsequently be removed, concealing the holes with hard wax filler, for
example.

On 27/02/2021 09:16, Owain Lastname wrote:
On Friday, 26 February 2021 at 12:10:32 UTC, wrote:
A new job has popped-up: making the lid of an antique oak coffer
(blanket box) safe for kids. It would be easy to fit one of the
off-the-peg stays but this "box" dates from the mid 1600s so I want to
do something that is in keeping and can easily be removed. All ideas
gratefully received.

Show them photos of kids with traumatically amputated fingers.

Tell them not to play with the coffer.

Owain


+1
Yes, let them learn. The "told you so" is satisfying.
Just wondering how many people has this box maimed/killed in the almost
400 years of it's existence?

On 27/02/2021 12:15, Richard wrote:
On 27/02/2021 09:16, Owain Lastname wrote:
On Friday, 26 February 2021 at 12:10:32 UTC, wrote:
A new job has popped-up: making the lid of an antique oak coffer
(blanket box) safe for kids. It would be easy to fit one of the
off-the-peg stays but this "box" dates from the mid 1600s so I want to
do something that is in keeping and can easily be removed. All ideas
gratefully received.

Show them photos of kids with traumatically amputated fingers.

Tell them not to play with the coffer.

Owain


+1
Yes, let them learn. The "told you so" is satisfying.
Just wondering how many people has this box maimed/killed in the almost
400 years of it's existence?

None. It wasn't a toy then. Plastic toy boxes are available.

It's a request a bit like asking for a child friendly chain saw or angle
grinder.

In other news ....

Every door in a house could trap small fingers. Has anyone thought about
fixing that?

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On 27/02/2021 12:55, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 27/02/2021 12:15, Richard wrote:
On 27/02/2021 09:16, Owain Lastname wrote:
On Friday, 26 February 2021 at 12:10:32 UTC, wrote:
A new job has popped-up: making the lid of an antique oak coffer
(blanket box) safe for kids. It would be easy to fit one of the
off-the-peg stays but this "box" dates from the mid 1600s so I want to
do something that is in keeping and can easily be removed. All ideas
gratefully received.

Show them photos of kids with traumatically amputated fingers.

Tell them not to play with the coffer.

Owain


+1
Yes, let them learn. The "told you so" is satisfying.
Just wondering how many people has this box maimed/killed in the
almost 400 years of it's existence?

None. It wasn't a toy then. Plastic toy boxes are available.

It's a request a bit like asking for a child friendly chain saw or angle
grinder.

In other news ....

Every door in a house could trap small fingers. Has anyone thought about
fixing that?

Remove the doors.
That fixed, back to your box - something like this:
https://theschoolofthetransferofener...g/cherry-wood/

On 27/02/2021 12:55, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 27/02/2021 12:15, Richard wrote:
On 27/02/2021 09:16, Owain Lastname wrote:
On Friday, 26 February 2021 at 12:10:32 UTC, wrote:
A new job has popped-up: making the lid of an antique oak coffer
(blanket box) safe for kids. It would be easy to fit one of the
off-the-peg stays but this "box" dates from the mid 1600s so I want to
do something that is in keeping and can easily be removed. All ideas
gratefully received.

Show them photos of kids with traumatically amputated fingers.

Tell them not to play with the coffer.

Owain


+1
Yes, let them learn. The "told you so" is satisfying.
Just wondering how many people has this box maimed/killed in the
almost 400 years of it's existence?

None. It wasn't a toy then. Plastic toy boxes are available.

It's a request a bit like asking for a child friendly chain saw or angle
grinder.

In other news ....

Every door in a house could trap small fingers. Has anyone thought about
fixing that?

In nurseries and primary schools, you often see flexible plastic covers
between the hinge side of the door and the frame - to prevent young
children getting their fingers in there and suffering serious damage due
to the mechanical advantage putting huge pressures on at that point.
There is far less of a problem around the rest of the door (likely to be
painful, but not serious) and even that is often mitigated by dampers or
damped door closers.

On 27/02/2021 12:15, Richard wrote:
On 27/02/2021 09:16, Owain Lastname wrote:
On Friday, 26 February 2021 at 12:10:32 UTC, wrote:
A new job has popped-up: making the lid of an antique oak coffer
(blanket box) safe for kids. It would be easy to fit one of the
off-the-peg stays but this "box" dates from the mid 1600s so I want to
do something that is in keeping and can easily be removed. All ideas
gratefully received.

Show them photos of kids with traumatically amputated fingers.

Tell them not to play with the coffer.

Owain


+1
Yes, let them learn. The "told you so" is satisfying.
Just wondering how many people has this box maimed/killed in the almost
400 years of it's existence?
A similar approach worked very well with my kids, but society has
changed since then (in so many ways, not all good) and the same approach
for the grandchildren would not be appreciated.

On 27/02/2021 13:06, Richard wrote:
On 27/02/2021 12:55, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 27/02/2021 12:15, Richard wrote:
On 27/02/2021 09:16, Owain Lastname wrote:
On Friday, 26 February 2021 at 12:10:32 UTC, wrote:
A new job has popped-up: making the lid of an antique oak coffer
(blanket box) safe for kids. It would be easy to fit one of the
off-the-peg stays but this "box" dates from the mid 1600s so I want to
do something that is in keeping and can easily be removed. All ideas
gratefully received.

Show them photos of kids with traumatically amputated fingers.

Tell them not to play with the coffer.

Owain


+1
Yes, let them learn. The "told you so" is satisfying.
Just wondering how many people has this box maimed/killed in the
almost 400 years of it's existence?

None. It wasn't a toy then. Plastic toy boxes are available.

It's a request a bit like asking for a child friendly chain saw or
angle grinder.

In other news ....

Every door in a house could trap small fingers. Has anyone thought
about fixing that?

Remove the doors.
That fixed, back to your box - something like this:
https://theschoolofthetransferofener...g/cherry-wood/
Some excellent workmanship there, and I like the latching lid stay

On 26/02/2021 18:41, williamwright wrote:
On 26/02/2021 12:10, wrote:
A new job has popped-up: making the lid of an antique oak coffer
(blanket box) safe for kids. It would be easy to fit one of the
off-the-peg stays but this "box" dates from the mid 1600s so I want to
do something that is in keeping and can easily be removed. All ideas
gratefully received.

Put a chain round it with a padlock.

Bill

Box or child ?. Put a concrete block on top of the
box lid.

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On 27/02/2021 09:16, Owain Lastname wrote:
On Friday, 26 February 2021 at 12:10:32 UTC, wrote:
A new job has popped-up: making the lid of an antique oak coffer
(blanket box) safe for kids. It would be easy to fit one of the
off-the-peg stays but this "box" dates from the mid 1600s so I want to
do something that is in keeping and can easily be removed. All ideas
gratefully received.

Show them photos of kids with traumatically amputated fingers.

Tell them not to play with the coffer.

With plenty of kids, that will see them playing with it.

+1
Yes, let them learn. The "told you so" is satisfying.
Just wondering how many people has this box maimed/killed in the almost
400 years of it's existence?

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