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There are a lot of button batteries out there with the same diameter
and voltage, and which differ only in the thickness of the battery. If you buy a card of them, there'll often be 2 each of 4 sizes. I invariably only want one size, and the others are completely surplus to requirements, which seems a waste. The difference in thickness is sometimes minor, so is there any particular/dangerous reason why I can't use one of the others (assuming it fits in the battery compartment without forcing anything)? -- Cheers, Harvey |
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HVS wrote: There are a lot of button batteries out there with the same diameter and voltage, and which differ only in the thickness of the battery. If you buy a card of them, there'll often be 2 each of 4 sizes. I invariably only want one size, and the others are completely surplus to requirements, which seems a waste. The difference in thickness is sometimes minor, so is there any particular/dangerous reason why I can't use one of the others (assuming it fits in the battery compartment without forcing anything)? If it's too thick, you wont be able to close thelid, if it's too thing it probably won't make an electrical connection. I've never seemn batteries sold as mixed sizes, -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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On 25/01/2021 17:46, HVS wrote:
There are a lot of button batteries out there with the same diameter and voltage, and which differ only in the thickness of the battery. If you buy a card of them, there'll often be 2 each of 4 sizes. I invariably only want one size, and the others are completely surplus to requirements, which seems a waste. The difference in thickness is sometimes minor, so is there any particular/dangerous reason why I can't use one of the others (assuming it fits in the battery compartment without forcing anything)? With thinner ones you can sometimes add some packing to make it up to the normal thickness. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 17:46:41 GMT, HVS wrote:
The difference in thickness is sometimes minor, so is there any particular/dangerous reason why I can't use one of the others (assuming it fits in the battery compartment without forcing anything)? Nahh. You can take a too-thin one and shim it with something conductive, avoiding the side where the shim could cause a short. I wouldn't use the cheap&cheerful cells from the poundshop blister with twenty cells on anything where a leaking cell would be more than a minor annoyance, though. Car key fobs can be very expensive, so that gets a fresh, new, brand-name cell... Thomas Prufer |
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On 25/01/2021 18:50, Thomas Prufer wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 17:46:41 GMT, HVS wrote: The difference in thickness is sometimes minor, so is there any particular/dangerous reason why I can't use one of the others (assuming it fits in the battery compartment without forcing anything)? Nahh. You can take a too-thin one and shim it with something conductive, avoiding the side where the shim could cause a short. I wouldn't use the cheap&cheerful cells from the poundshop blister with twenty cells on anything where a leaking cell would be more than a minor annoyance, though. Car key fobs can be very expensive, so that gets a fresh, new, brand-name cell... Thomas Prufer +1. Branded ones in all sizes are readily available from eBay, and not expensive. I'll just buy a pack of four if I want a single one. |
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charles expressed precisely :
I've never seemn batteries sold as mixed sizes, Poundland do them. |
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On 25/01/2021 19:41, newshound wrote:
On 25/01/2021 18:50, Thomas Prufer wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 17:46:41 GMT, HVS wrote: The difference in thickness is sometimes minor, so is there any particular/dangerous reason why I can't use one of the others (assuming it fits in the battery compartment without forcing anything)? Nahh. You can take a too-thin one and shim it with something conductive, avoiding the side where the shim could cause a short. I wouldn't use the cheap&cheerful cells from the poundshop blister with twenty cells on anything where a leaking cell would be more than a minor annoyance, though. Car key fobs can be very expensive, so that gets a fresh, new, brand-name cell... Thomas Prufer +1. Branded ones in all sizes are readily available from eBay, and not expensive. I'll just buy a pack of four if I want a single one. And with care genuine branded ones are available from eBay as well! |
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On 25/01/2021 21:32, mm0fmf wrote:
On 25/01/2021 19:41, newshound wrote: On 25/01/2021 18:50, Thomas Prufer wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 17:46:41 GMT, HVS wrote: The difference in thickness is sometimes minor, so is there any particular/dangerous reason why I can't use one of the others (assuming it fits in the battery compartment without forcing anything)? Nahh. You can take a too-thin one and shim it with something conductive, avoiding the side where the shim could cause a short. I wouldn't use the cheap&cheerful cells from the poundshop blister with twenty cells on anything where a leaking cell would be more than a minor annoyance, though. Car key fobs can be very expensive, so that gets a fresh, new, brand-name cell... Thomas Prufer +1. Branded ones in all sizes are readily available from eBay, and not expensive. I'll just buy a pack of four if I want a single one. And with care genuine branded ones are available from eBay as well! I always buy Renata ones from eBay, used to be in boxes of 10 now on "cards". 90% of the time its a 377 in a watch. |
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On 25/01/2021 19:48, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
charles expressed precisely : I've never seemn batteries sold as mixed sizes, Poundland do them. I've never seen the point in those mixed packs of button cells, though I've bought one of coin cells: CR2016/25/32 - a reasonable selection. It's still better to buy the ones you want, though singly or in pairs from ordinary shops is very expensive. I buy Duracell LR44 button cells through Amazon - £5 or so for 10. -- Max Demian |
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On 25/01/2021 22:39, Max Demian wrote:
On 25/01/2021 19:48, Harry Bloomfield wrote: charles expressed precisely : I've never seemn batteries sold as mixed sizes, Poundland do them. I've never seen the point in those mixed packs of button cells, though I've bought one of coin cells: CR2016/25/32 - a reasonable selection. It's still better to buy the ones you want, though singly or in pairs from ordinary shops is very expensive. I buy Duracell LR44 button cells through Amazon - £5 or so for 10. When you buy 12 button cells for £1 it makes your Duracell look expensive. YMMV |
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Max Demian wrote
Harry Bloomfield wrote charles wrote I've never seemn batteries sold as mixed sizes, Poundland do them. I've never seen the point in those mixed packs of button cells, I have found mine quite useful for the more obscure stuff like digital vernier callipers etc. though I've bought one of coin cells: CR2016/25/32 - a reasonable selection. It's still better to buy the ones you want, Nope, not with the obscure stuff. though singly or in pairs from ordinary shops is very expensive. That's why the big cards are much better value even if you never use most of them. I buy Duracell LR44 button cells through Amazon - £5 or so for 10. I do buy them like that for the kitchen and bathroom digital scales. My previous kitchen scales was very fussy about its batterys, I just ditched it, the replacement is vastly better and is much better to use too. |
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"charles" wrote in message ... In article , HVS wrote: There are a lot of button batteries out there with the same diameter and voltage, and which differ only in the thickness of the battery. If you buy a card of them, there'll often be 2 each of 4 sizes. I invariably only want one size, and the others are completely surplus to requirements, which seems a waste. The difference in thickness is sometimes minor, so is there any particular/dangerous reason why I can't use one of the others (assuming it fits in the battery compartment without forcing anything)? If it's too thick, you wont be able to close thelid, if it's too thing it probably won't make an electrical connection. I've never seemn batteries sold as mixed sizes, There are plenty of examples of a big card with lots of mixed sizes. |
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On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:07:22 +0000, Fredxx wrote:
On 25/01/2021 22:39, Max Demian wrote: On 25/01/2021 19:48, Harry Bloomfield wrote: charles expressed precisely : I've never seemn batteries sold as mixed sizes, Poundland do them. I've never seen the point in those mixed packs of button cells, though I've bought one of coin cells: CR2016/25/32 - a reasonable selection. It's still better to buy the ones you want, though singly or in pairs from ordinary shops is very expensive. I buy Duracell LR44 button cells through Amazon - £5 or so for 10. When you buy 12 button cells for £1 it makes your Duracell look expensive. And when you replace the one in your car fob every eight weeks when the branded one lasted years, buying 12 for £1 looks like somewhat less of a bargain. |
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On Monday, 25 January 2021 at 17:46:48 UTC, HVS wrote:
There are a lot of button batteries out there with the same diameter and voltage, and which differ only in the thickness of the battery. If you buy a card of them, there'll often be 2 each of 4 sizes. I invariably only want one size, and the others are completely surplus to requirements, which seems a waste. The difference in thickness is sometimes minor, so is there any particular/dangerous reason why I can't use one of the others (assuming it fits in the battery compartment without forcing anything)? We have a timer which uses a tiny cell (not to hand and cannot remember exactly which size). The original cell didn't last very long, nor did replacements. A few weeks each. I happened to have some next-size-up cells and found they would just fit. (The lid of the receptacle is awkward to turn with the thicker cells.) But they last many times longer - months. |
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I'd never buy any battery from them. Most are rubbish in my experience. I
buy from boots in the main and have found the life to be much greater, plus you can get them in larger amounts and they will keep. Brian -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! Harry Bloomfield; "Esq." wrote in message ... charles expressed precisely : I've never seemn batteries sold as mixed sizes, Poundland do them. |
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On 25/01/2021 18:09, charles wrote:
In article , HVS wrote: There are a lot of button batteries out there with the same diameter and voltage, and which differ only in the thickness of the battery. If you buy a card of them, there'll often be 2 each of 4 sizes. I invariably only want one size, and the others are completely surplus to requirements, which seems a waste. The difference in thickness is sometimes minor, so is there any particular/dangerous reason why I can't use one of the others (assuming it fits in the battery compartment without forcing anything)? If it's too thick, you wont be able to close thelid, if it's too thing it probably won't make an electrical connection. I've never seemn batteries sold as mixed sizes, You are kidding right? Every Poundshop has them! (other brands available). Finding a friend who wants some other size and doing a swap might work but so many watches use the same size cell :( -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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In article ,
Martin Brown wrote: On 25/01/2021 18:09, charles wrote: In article , HVS wrote: There are a lot of button batteries out there with the same diameter and voltage, and which differ only in the thickness of the battery. If you buy a card of them, there'll often be 2 each of 4 sizes. I invariably only want one size, and the others are completely surplus to requirements, which seems a waste. The difference in thickness is sometimes minor, so is there any particular/dangerous reason why I can't use one of the others (assuming it fits in the battery compartment without forcing anything)? If it's too thick, you wont be able to close thelid, if it's too thing it probably won't make an electrical connection. I've never seemn batteries sold as mixed sizes, You are kidding right? Every Poundshop has them! I've only been in a Poundshop once and I wsn't looking for batteries. (other brands available). Finding a friend who wants some other size and doing a swap might work but so many watches use the same size cell :( My watch hasn't had a replacemnt battery since I was given it, 15 years ago. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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Max Demian expressed precisely :
I've never seen the point in those mixed packs of button cells, though I've bought one of coin cells: CR2016/25/32 - a reasonable selection. I keep a £1 pack of both the small ones and the larger ones, in the drawer. They are not quite as good as the expensive ones, but they work. |
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It happens that Scion formulated :
And when you replace the one in your car fob every eight weeks when the branded one lasted years, buying 12 for £1 looks like somewhat less of a bargain. The £1 CR2016's have lasted years. |
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Brian Gaff (Sofa) formulated on Tuesday :
I'd never buy any battery from them. Most are rubbish in my experience. I buy from boots in the main and have found the life to be much greater, plus you can get them in larger amounts and they will keep. The black and red Kodak multiple AA and AAA carbon cells are absolute rubbish. I find the orange/black alkaline version sold by Home Bargains work well for most things. |
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In article ,
HVS wrote: I invariably only want one size, and the others are completely surplus to requirements, which seems a waste. They do seem to have a pretty good shelf life so will get used eventually? -- *Who are these kids and why are they calling me Mom? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 11:07:04 +0000, Harry Bloomfield, Esq. wrote:
It happens that Scion formulated : And when you replace the one in your car fob every eight weeks when the branded one lasted years, buying 12 for £1 looks like somewhat less of a bargain. The £1 CR2016's have lasted years. You got a good batch, evidently. The ones I bought really were lousy. I guess the pound shop ones will be from various suppliers over time and the QC isn't going to be there to any great degree whereas buying branded is more of a guarantee of quality, provided that the brand is a 'known good' one and you don't manage to buy fakes. |
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On 26/01/2021 11:10, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Brian Gaff (Sofa) formulated on Tuesday : I'd never buy any battery from them. Most are rubbish in my experience. I buy from boots in the main and have found the life to be much greater, plus you can get them in larger amounts and they will keep. The black and red Kodak multiple AA and AAA carbon cells are absolute rubbish. I find the orange/black alkaline version sold by Home Bargains work well for most things. Pound shop batteries are very variable. A few years ago Hyundai AAs went through a time when they kept leaking. Recently I bought a pack of six Powercell AAs and two of them leaked while they were still in the pack. I've gone back to Kodak. -- Max Demian |
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On 25/01/2021 23:07, Fredxx wrote:
On 25/01/2021 22:39, Max Demian wrote: On 25/01/2021 19:48, Harry Bloomfield wrote: charles expressed precisely : I've never seemn batteries sold as mixed sizes, Poundland do them. I've never seen the point in those mixed packs of button cells, though I've bought one of coin cells: CR2016/25/32 - a reasonable selection. It's still better to buy the ones you want, though singly or in pairs from ordinary shops is very expensive. I buy Duracell LR44 button cells through Amazon - £5 or so for 10. When you buy 12 button cells for £1 it makes your Duracell look expensive. Not if 10 are ones you never use. -- Max Demian |
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On 25/01/2021 22:39, Max Demian wrote:
On 25/01/2021 19:48, Harry Bloomfield wrote: charles expressed precisely : I've never seemn batteries sold as mixed sizes, Poundland do them. I've never seen the point in those mixed packs of button cells, though I've bought one of coin cells: CR2016/25/32 - a reasonable selection. Kosher coin cells come free with a bank's security device. I've got a lifetimes worth, several times over ;) PA |
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Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote
I'd never buy any battery from them. Most are rubbish in my experience. They work fine in my digital vernier callipers and one other device I forget for the moment. I buy from boots in the main and have found the life to be much greater, plus you can get them in larger amounts and they will keep. Yeah, I did find that the kitchen scales that is very fussy about its batterys got a much better result with proper branded batterys from ebay, but I have given up on the ****er, it eventually wouldn’t even work with those. complained that the new batterys were bad. The replacement kitchen scales is much better to use anyway, doesn’t time out so quickly so I can open a new bag of bread mix without it timing out and it isnt fussy about batterys and has a very elegant multi level taring system too. Harry Bloomfield; "Esq." wrote in message ... charles expressed precisely : I've never seemn batteries sold as mixed sizes, Poundland do them. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , HVS wrote: I invariably only want one size, and the others are completely surplus to requirements, which seems a waste. They do seem to have a pretty good shelf life Yes, just replaced the battery in my digital vernier callipers from a card I have had for years now. so will get used eventually? Nope, mine has so many different battery types that some will never get used. |
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Scion wrote:
The ones I bought really were lousy. I guess the pound shop ones will be from various suppliers over time and the QC isn't going to be there to any great degree whereas buying branded is more of a guarantee of quality, provided that the brand is a 'known good' one and you don't manage to buy fakes. I haven't had them long enough to benchmark, but good value: https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/plattbo...tery-80291156/ Probably only worthwhile if shopping there anyway. I restocked with: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-X-CR20...b/283867769178 (Maxell are an actual battery manufacturer, rather than a brand slapped on things like Kodak, Polaroid, etc) Theo |
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On 26/01/2021 08:26, Scion wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:07:22 +0000, Fredxx wrote: On 25/01/2021 22:39, Max Demian wrote: On 25/01/2021 19:48, Harry Bloomfield wrote: charles expressed precisely : I've never seemn batteries sold as mixed sizes, Poundland do them. I've never seen the point in those mixed packs of button cells, though I've bought one of coin cells: CR2016/25/32 - a reasonable selection. It's still better to buy the ones you want, though singly or in pairs from ordinary shops is very expensive. I buy Duracell LR44 button cells through Amazon - £5 or so for 10. When you buy 12 button cells for £1 it makes your Duracell look expensive. And when you replace the one in your car fob every eight weeks when the branded one lasted years, buying 12 for £1 looks like somewhat less of a bargain. That is the expected rhetoric from someone who buys high cost batteries and isn't my experience. There have been a number of tests with cheap (Poundland) batteries vs expensive and the expensive ones can be shown to perform less well than far cheaper alternatives. I accept I haven't looked for any regarding button cells. The only saving grace is that you might reasonably expect expensive branded batteries to last as long as the rest of them. In essence you're paying a high price for confidence. |
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On 26/01/2021 09:01, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
I'd never buy any battery from them. Most are rubbish in my experience. That's not my experience and there is much evidence to counter your claim: http://www.redferret.net/?p=42679 Where Panasonic batteries, sometimes available from Poundland, have 10% more capacity than Duracell and many times the value for money. I buy from boots in the main and have found the life to be much greater, plus you can get them in larger amounts and they will keep. Not all battery technologies keep their capacity over time, alkaline certainly do. |
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On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 19:43:24 +0000, Fredxx wrote:
On 26/01/2021 08:26, Scion wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:07:22 +0000, Fredxx wrote: On 25/01/2021 22:39, Max Demian wrote: On 25/01/2021 19:48, Harry Bloomfield wrote: charles expressed precisely : I've never seemn batteries sold as mixed sizes, Poundland do them. I've never seen the point in those mixed packs of button cells, though I've bought one of coin cells: CR2016/25/32 - a reasonable selection. It's still better to buy the ones you want, though singly or in pairs from ordinary shops is very expensive. I buy Duracell LR44 button cells through Amazon - £5 or so for 10. When you buy 12 button cells for £1 it makes your Duracell look expensive. And when you replace the one in your car fob every eight weeks when the branded one lasted years, buying 12 for £1 looks like somewhat less of a bargain. That is the expected rhetoric from someone who buys high cost batteries and isn't my experience. It is my direct experience when I bought a card of coin cells from a pound shop. I'll be generous and say perhaps it was a bad batch. I didn't repeat the experiment. There have been a number of tests with cheap (Poundland) batteries vs expensive and the expensive ones can be shown to perform less well than far cheaper alternatives. I accept I haven't looked for any regarding button cells. Links here would be appreciated. |
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On 26/01/2021 11:10, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Brian Gaff (Sofa) formulated on Tuesday : I'd never buy any battery from them. Most are rubbish in my experience. I buy from boots in the main and have found the life to be much greater, plus you can get them in larger amounts and they will keep. The black and red Kodak multiple AA and AAA carbon cells are absolute rubbish. I no longer use dry cells with few exceptions. Alkaline batteries give excellent performance in comparison. Possibly the only exception where I something will be left on accidentally. I find the orange/black alkaline version sold by Home Bargains work well for most things. Agreed. I thought Poundland might be cheaper. |
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On 25/01/2021 21:32, mm0fmf wrote:
On 25/01/2021 19:41, newshound wrote: On 25/01/2021 18:50, Thomas Prufer wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 17:46:41 GMT, HVS wrote: The difference in thickness is sometimes minor, so is there any particular/dangerous reason why I can't use one of the others (assuming it fits in the battery compartment without forcing anything)? Nahh. You can take a too-thin one and shim it with something conductive, avoiding the side where the shim could cause a short. I wouldn't use the cheap&cheerful cells from the poundshop blister with twenty cells on anything where a leaking cell would be more than a minor annoyance, though. Car key fobs can be very expensive, so that gets a fresh, new, brand-name cell... Thomas Prufer +1. Branded ones in all sizes are readily available from eBay, and not expensive. I'll just buy a pack of four if I want a single one. And with care genuine branded ones are available from eBay as well! That's a good point, I've often wondered myself whether fakes were easy to spot these days. Any tips? |
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On 25/01/2021 17:46, HVS wrote:
There are a lot of button batteries out there with the same diameter and voltage, and which differ only in the thickness of the battery. Can anyone explain why button cells are used in things that would take a bigger battery or several? I'm forever changing the one in our bathroom scales. |
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In article ,
Harry Bloomfield wrote: Brian Gaff (Sofa) formulated on Tuesday : I'd never buy any battery from them. Most are rubbish in my experience. I buy from boots in the main and have found the life to be much greater, plus you can get them in larger amounts and they will keep. The black and red Kodak multiple AA and AAA carbon cells are absolute rubbish. Carbon cells are only really used for very low drain stuff like possibly a clock, where a longer shelf life is useful due to the tiny currents involved. Very few could be bothered buying them specially. I find the orange/black alkaline version sold by Home Bargains work well for most things. -- *Why doesn't glue stick to the inside of the bottle? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 25 Jan 2021, I wrote
There are a lot of button batteries out there with the same diameter and voltage... ... so is there any particular/dangerous reason why I can't use one of the others (assuming it fits in the battery compartment without forcing anything)? Thanks to all for your responses; very helpful discussion. -- Cheers, Harvey |
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