https://www.theguardian.com/environm...id-using-wood-
burning-stoves-if-possible-warn-health-experts

No hard facts, and only a passing mention that hints that the worst
polluters are open fires.

Nothing about solid fuel central heating which generally uses anthracite
beans.

Nothing about (for example) garden bonfires.

Previous articles have let slip that the issues are often about running
wood burners with the fire doors open, and that they are not such a
problem with the doors closed.

Our wood burner is for pleasure and also as a backup heat source. Cooking
at a pinch.

The electricity here is pretty reliable, but I still recall a couple of
houses back when we were the only house able to cook because of our solid
fuel Rayburn when the power went out for an extended period. So having an
alternative is reassuring.

Anyway, Happy New Year.


Dave R


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Not seen the article, suspect its only been published to fill space as there
seems to be no news except covid and we are all pig sick of that.
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"David" wrote in message
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https://www.theguardian.com/environm...id-using-wood-
burning-stoves-if-possible-warn-health-experts

No hard facts, and only a passing mention that hints that the worst
polluters are open fires.

Nothing about solid fuel central heating which generally uses anthracite
beans.

Nothing about (for example) garden bonfires.

Previous articles have let slip that the issues are often about running
wood burners with the fire doors open, and that they are not such a
problem with the doors closed.

Our wood burner is for pleasure and also as a backup heat source. Cooking
at a pinch.

The electricity here is pretty reliable, but I still recall a couple of
houses back when we were the only house able to cook because of our solid
fuel Rayburn when the power went out for an extended period. So having an
alternative is reassuring.

Anyway, Happy New Year.


Dave R


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On 01/01/2021 11:35, David wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...id-using-wood-
burning-stoves-if-possible-warn-health-experts

Its the guardian. You can safely ignore it completely.




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On Fri, 01 Jan 2021 11:35:31 +0000, David wrote:

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...id-using-wood-
burning-stoves-if-possible-warn-health-experts

No hard facts, and only a passing mention that hints that the worst
polluters are open fires.

Nothing about solid fuel central heating which generally uses anthracite
beans.

Nothing about (for example) garden bonfires.

Previous articles have let slip that the issues are often about running
wood burners with the fire doors open, and that they are not such a
problem with the doors closed.

Our wood burner is for pleasure and also as a backup heat source.
Cooking at a pinch.

The electricity here is pretty reliable, but I still recall a couple of
houses back when we were the only house able to cook because of our
solid fuel Rayburn when the power went out for an extended period. So
having an alternative is reassuring.

Anyway, Happy New Year.

I wonder what the relative statistics are for charcoal BBQs in the summer?

Cheers

Dave R

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On 01/01/2021 16:32, David wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jan 2021 11:35:31 +0000, David wrote:

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...id-using-wood-
burning-stoves-if-possible-warn-health-experts

No hard facts, and only a passing mention that hints that the worst
polluters are open fires.

Nothing about solid fuel central heating which generally uses anthracite
beans.

Nothing about (for example) garden bonfires.

Previous articles have let slip that the issues are often about running
wood burners with the fire doors open, and that they are not such a
problem with the doors closed.

Our wood burner is for pleasure and also as a backup heat source.
Cooking at a pinch.

The electricity here is pretty reliable, but I still recall a couple of
houses back when we were the only house able to cook because of our
solid fuel Rayburn when the power went out for an extended period. So
having an alternative is reassuring.

Anyway, Happy New Year.

I wonder what the relative statistics are for charcoal BBQs in the summer?

Cheers

Dave R

it wont be long before peoples sweat is classed as a pollutant


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Tim Streater posted
On 01 Jan 2021 at 11:35:31 GMT, David wrote:

Previous articles have let slip that the issues are often about running
wood burners with the fire doors open, and that they are not such a
problem with the doors closed.

Why would anyone run a woodburner with the door open?


It makes it blaze up and deliver a lot of heat quickly.

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Algernon

On 01/01/2021 16:59, Tim Streater wrote:
On 01 Jan 2021 at 11:35:31 GMT, David wrote:

Previous articles have let slip that the issues are often about running
wood burners with the fire doors open, and that they are not such a
problem with the doors closed.

Why would anyone run a woodburner with the door open?


we have a wood burner. One thing that puzzles me is that as soon as I
open the door to refuel, I can actually feel a blast of "heat" coming
into the room.

I have wondered whether the room would actually heat up more with the
door open. Clearly with the door shut that heat energy is going
somewhere else, but to where?

Tim Streater wrote:
On 01 Jan 2021 at 11:35:31 GMT, David wrote:

Previous articles have let slip that the issues are often about running
wood burners with the fire doors open, and that they are not such a
problem with the doors closed.

Why would anyone run a woodburner with the door open?

To poke it or put new logs in.

(The article was saying that every time you open the door a gust of
particulates comes into the room)

Theo

On 01/01/2021 16:59, Tim Streater wrote:
On 01 Jan 2021 at 11:35:31 GMT, David wrote:

Previous articles have let slip that the issues are often about running
wood burners with the fire doors open, and that they are not such a
problem with the doors closed.

Why would anyone run a woodburner with the door open?

more instant heat

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On 01/01/2021 17:35, Theo wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:
On 01 Jan 2021 at 11:35:31 GMT, David wrote:

Previous articles have let slip that the issues are often about running
wood burners with the fire doors open, and that they are not such a
problem with the doors closed.

Why would anyone run a woodburner with the door open?

To poke it or put new logs in.

(The article was saying that every time you open the door a gust of
particulates comes into the room)

That why you only open it slowly. Strangely enough your NOSE can tell if
any gases have escaped, and if they haven't neither have the particles

Its just more command and control eco********

Theo



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Algernon Goss-Custard wrote:
Tim Streater posted
On 01 Jan 2021 at 11:35:31 GMT, David wrote:

Previous articles have let slip that the issues are often about running
wood burners with the fire doors open, and that they are not such a
problem with the doors closed.

Why would anyone run a woodburner with the door open?


It makes it blaze up and deliver a lot of heat quickly.

Not if it's like most/many. Opening the doors *stops* the draught
being drawn through the burning wood. If you shut the doors and open
the dampers (which are *below* the grate) then you get a good draught
right through the burning wood.

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Theo wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:
On 01 Jan 2021 at 11:35:31 GMT, David wrote:

Previous articles have let slip that the issues are often about running
wood burners with the fire doors open, and that they are not such a
problem with the doors closed.

Why would anyone run a woodburner with the door open?

To poke it or put new logs in.

(The article was saying that every time you open the door a gust of
particulates comes into the room)

There shouldn't be "a gust of particulates" if the stove is drawing
properly, air should be sucked *into* it.

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Chris Green
·

Chris Green posted
Algernon Goss-Custard wrote:
Tim Streater posted
On 01 Jan 2021 at 11:35:31 GMT, David wrote:

Previous articles have let slip that the issues are often about running
wood burners with the fire doors open, and that they are not such a
problem with the doors closed.

Why would anyone run a woodburner with the door open?


It makes it blaze up and deliver a lot of heat quickly.

Not if it's like most/many. Opening the doors *stops* the draught
being drawn through the burning wood.

But it is still drawn onto the *top* of the fire, which is all that is
necessary for a wood fire. [It's different if you're burning coal.],

And, with the door open, the heat of combustion is radiated directly
into the room.

If you shut the doors and open
the dampers (which are *below* the grate) then you get a good draught
right through the burning wood.


Yes, that works well too in terms of promoting combustion. But it
doesn't deliver the heat into the room as quickly.

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Algernon

On 01/01/2021 21:28, Algernon Goss-Custard wrote:
Chris Green posted
Algernon Goss-Custard wrote:
Tim Streater posted
On 01 Jan 2021 at 11:35:31 GMT, David wrote:

Previous articles have let slip that the issues are often about
running
wood burners with the fire doors open, and that they are not such a
problem with the doors closed.

Why would anyone run a woodburner with the door open?


It makes it blaze up and deliver a lot of heat quickly.

Not if it's like most/many.Â* Opening the doors *stops* the draught
being drawn through the burning wood.

But it is still drawn onto the *top* of the fire, which is all that is
necessary for a wood fire. [It's different if you're burning coal.],

And, with the door open, the heat of combustion is radiated directly
into the room.

If you shut the doors and open
the dampers (which are *below* the grate) then you get a good draught
right through the burning wood.


Yes, that works well too in terms of promoting combustion. But it
doesn't deliver the heat into the room as quickly.


Mine burns faster with the doors open and looks pretty
But what you really want is a slower burn, so closing it up and just
using in my case the top slots above the burn level work well

Where the air vents are makes little difference. air is drawn to the
fire base because convection off the top sees to that.


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