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JohnP December 27th 20 09:21 AM

Mobile phone
 
I am not a phone geek. My first and only smart phone is a Doogee x5 Max
which cost less than 80 a few years ago. It is absolutely fine, but it is
Android 6 and I feel I need a newer version for compatability with newer
apps and devices.
I definately don't want a status symbol and I would rather pay up front
rather than a monthly fee.
Any thoughts on where to look - or any recommendations?

JohnP December 27th 20 09:45 AM

Mobile phone
 
Owain Lastname wrote in news:841af4c2-0057-
:

On Sunday, 27 December 2020 at 09:21:15 UTC, JohnP wrote:
...it is Android 6 and I feel I need a newer version


I'm on Android 4 :)

Owain



I felt I was approaching obsolescence when I bought a Blink Security Camera
and my Android 4 Tablet wasn't able to interface - but my phone was "just".
Not planning to rush out to get one - but I want to focus my options and
read reviews so that if I decide to take the plunge (or my phone breaks)
then I know what to target.

Jeff Layman[_2_] December 27th 20 10:00 AM

Mobile phone
 
On 27/12/2020 09:37, Owain Lastname wrote:
On Sunday, 27 December 2020 at 09:21:15 UTC, JohnP wrote:
...it is Android 6 and I feel I need a newer version


I'm on Android 4 :)

Owain


+1 (well, 4.1).

Mine's a Huawei Y300 bought 7 years ago. I don't use it for anything
important (and never for banking). I've also been looking at new phones,
even though the original battery is fine in mine. What I miss on the new
phones I've read about is a flashing led on the front to warn me that a
new text or email has been received. As far as I've been able to tell,
only some of the lower-range Nokia smartphones still have a led of this
type.

--

Jeff

Chris Green December 27th 20 10:22 AM

Mobile phone
 
Jeff Layman wrote:
On 27/12/2020 09:37, Owain Lastname wrote:
On Sunday, 27 December 2020 at 09:21:15 UTC, JohnP wrote:
...it is Android 6 and I feel I need a newer version


I'm on Android 4 :)

Owain


+1 (well, 4.1).

Mine's a Huawei Y300 bought 7 years ago. I don't use it for anything
important (and never for banking). I've also been looking at new phones,
even though the original battery is fine in mine. What I miss on the new
phones I've read about is a flashing led on the front to warn me that a
new text or email has been received. As far as I've been able to tell,
only some of the lower-range Nokia smartphones still have a led of this
type.

My last phone change was from smartphones (two or three Moto E and
Moto G phones over a few years) back to a feature phone. I have a ZTE
from Three which does 4G voice (vital for us here as only Three 4G has a
decent signal here). It's actually Android under the bonnet but you
wouldn't know it really, it has real buttons and is perfect for making
and answering phone calls, and adequate for SMS. The real bonus for
me is having a real button to press to answer calls, no more missed
calls while I swear at the %$&^^(*&)( thing! :-)

--
Chris Green
·

charles December 27th 20 10:24 AM

Mobile phone
 
In article ,
JohnP wrote:
I am not a phone geek. My first and only smart phone is a Doogee x5 Max
which cost less than 80 a few years ago. It is absolutely fine, but it
is Android 6 and I feel I need a newer version for compatability with
newer apps and devices. I definately don't want a status symbol and I
would rather pay up front rather than a monthly fee. Any thoughts on
where to look - or any recommendations?


Bought mine (4 models back iPhone) from John Lewis. It's now 5 models back!

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

David Wade[_2_] December 27th 20 10:55 AM

Mobile phone
 
On 27/12/2020 09:21, JohnP wrote:
I am not a phone geek. My first and only smart phone is a Doogee x5 Max
which cost less than Ł80 a few years ago. It is absolutely fine, but it is
Android 6 and I feel I need a newer version for compatability with newer
apps and devices.
I definately don't want a status symbol and I would rather pay up front
rather than a monthly fee.
Any thoughts on where to look - or any recommendations?


HTC refurb from GiffGaff?

Dave

The Natural Philosopher[_2_] December 27th 20 11:19 AM

Mobile phone
 
On 27/12/2020 09:21, JohnP wrote:
I am not a phone geek. My first and only smart phone is a Doogee x5 Max
which cost less than £80 a few years ago. It is absolutely fine, but it is
Android 6 and I feel I need a newer version for compatability with newer
apps and devices.
I definately don't want a status symbol and I would rather pay up front
rather than a monthly fee.
Any thoughts on where to look - or any recommendations?

A samsung galaxy is pretty boring and stock
Depending on whether you need special carrier features you cab get a
cheapo even in Argos


--
"When one man dies it's a tragedy. When thousands die it's statistics."

Josef Stalin


The Natural Philosopher[_2_] December 27th 20 11:28 AM

Mobile phone
 
On 27/12/2020 10:24, charles wrote:
In article ,
JohnP wrote:
I am not a phone geek. My first and only smart phone is a Doogee x5 Max
which cost less than £80 a few years ago. It is absolutely fine, but it
is Android 6 and I feel I need a newer version for compatability with
newer apps and devices. I definately don't want a status symbol and I
would rather pay up front rather than a monthly fee. Any thoughts on
where to look - or any recommendations?


Bought mine (4 models back iPhone) from John Lewis. It's now 5 models back!

i seem to be on android 9..

--
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will
eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such
time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic
and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally
important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for
the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the
truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

Joseph Goebbels




Richard[_10_] December 27th 20 12:44 PM

Mobile phone
 
On 27/12/2020 11:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 27/12/2020 09:21, JohnP wrote:
I am not a phone geek. My first and only smart phone is a Doogee x5 Max
which cost less than £80 a few years ago. It is absolutely fine, but
it is
Android 6 and I feel I need a newer version for compatability with newer
apps and devices.
I definately don't want a status symbol and I would rather pay up front
rather than a monthly fee.
Any thoughts on where to look - or any recommendations?

A samsung galaxy is pretty boring and stock


Compared to what?

Depending on whether you need special carrier features you cab get a
cheapo even in Argos




ARW December 27th 20 01:32 PM

Mobile phone
 
On 27/12/2020 12:44, Richard wrote:
On 27/12/2020 11:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 27/12/2020 09:21, JohnP wrote:
I am not a phone geek. My first and only smart phone is a Doogee x5 Max
which cost less than £80 a few years ago. It is absolutely fine, but
it is
Android 6 and I feel I need a newer version for compatability with newer
apps and devices.
I definately don't want a status symbol and I would rather pay up front
rather than a monthly fee.
Any thoughts on where to look - or any recommendations?

A samsung galaxy is pretty boring and stock


Compared to what?


An iron.



--
Adam

ARW December 27th 20 01:41 PM

Mobile phone
 
On 27/12/2020 09:21, JohnP wrote:
I am not a phone geek. My first and only smart phone is a Doogee x5 Max
which cost less than Ł80 a few years ago. It is absolutely fine, but it is
Android 6 and I feel I need a newer version for compatability with newer
apps and devices.
I definately don't want a status symbol and I would rather pay up front
rather than a monthly fee.
Any thoughts on where to look - or any recommendations?


Bought my last few from CEX. Never had any problems.

--
Adam

newshound December 27th 20 02:19 PM

Mobile phone
 
On 27/12/2020 09:21, JohnP wrote:
I am not a phone geek. My first and only smart phone is a Doogee x5 Max
which cost less than Ł80 a few years ago. It is absolutely fine, but it is
Android 6 and I feel I need a newer version for compatability with newer
apps and devices.
I definately don't want a status symbol and I would rather pay up front
rather than a monthly fee.
Any thoughts on where to look - or any recommendations?

I've been happy with several entry level and budget "Motorolas" with
good deals by staying "one model behind" and/or "returns".

Currently on a Huawei which is OK but not perfect (wifi speed can drop
right off and sometimes have problems with BBC Sounds (which could be
wifi speed related).

Michael Chare[_4_] December 27th 20 03:54 PM

Mobile phone
 
On 27/12/2020 09:21, JohnP wrote:
I am not a phone geek. My first and only smart phone is a Doogee x5 Max
which cost less than Ł80 a few years ago. It is absolutely fine, but it is
Android 6 and I feel I need a newer version for compatability with newer
apps and devices.
I definately don't want a status symbol and I would rather pay up front
rather than a monthly fee.
Any thoughts on where to look - or any recommendations?


I have an Xiaomi MI A2 bought about two years ago. At the time a fairly
good phone for the money. I won't control the washing machine though I
have never understood why I would want it to. On Xmas day I found that
it would control a Roberts radio that I bought a few years ago.

I did manage to enable Wifi calling but I can't force it to use Wifi
rather than the flaky mobile signal where I live. My Vodafone
Shuresignal box died after 27 months just like all the others. I change
some capacitors but alas it still does not work.

We had a power cut at 01.15 this morning and I was able to find out
details using the mobile. Power was not restored until just after 12.30.

--
Michael Chare

Richard[_10_] December 27th 20 04:35 PM

Mobile phone
 
On 27/12/2020 13:32, ARW wrote:
On 27/12/2020 12:44, Richard wrote:
On 27/12/2020 11:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 27/12/2020 09:21, JohnP wrote:
I am not a phone geek. My first and only smart phone is a Doogee x5 Max
which cost less than £80 a few years ago. It is absolutely fine, but
it is
Android 6 and I feel I need a newer version for compatability with
newer
apps and devices.
I definately don't want a status symbol and I would rather pay up front
rather than a monthly fee.
Any thoughts on where to look - or any recommendations?

A samsung galaxy is pretty boring and stock


Compared to what?


An iron.


I'm not gonna fall for that one.

Fred December 27th 20 04:36 PM

Mobile phone
 


"Michael Chare" wrote in message
...
On 27/12/2020 09:21, JohnP wrote:
I am not a phone geek. My first and only smart phone is a Doogee x5 Max
which cost less than Ł80 a few years ago. It is absolutely fine, but it
is
Android 6 and I feel I need a newer version for compatability with newer
apps and devices.
I definately don't want a status symbol and I would rather pay up front
rather than a monthly fee.
Any thoughts on where to look - or any recommendations?


I have an Xiaomi MI A2 bought about two years ago. At the time a fairly
good phone for the money.


I won't control the washing machine though I have never understood why I
would want it to.


So you can have some programs you use all
the time and just tap on the one you want
with a particular wash instead of farting
around selecting the right program on the
machine with its unique way of doing things.

Same with the microwave with those
too stupid to work out how to use one.

On Xmas day I found that it would control a Roberts radio that I bought a
few years ago.


I did manage to enable Wifi calling but I can't force it to use Wifi
rather than the flaky mobile signal where I live. My Vodafone Shuresignal
box died after 27 months just like all the others. I change some
capacitors but alas it still does not work.

We had a power cut at 01.15 this morning and I was able to find out
details using the mobile. Power was not restored until just after 12.30.




JoeJoe December 27th 20 07:46 PM

Mobile phone
 
On 27/12/2020 09:21, JohnP wrote:
I am not a phone geek. My first and only smart phone is a Doogee x5 Max
which cost less than Ł80 a few years ago. It is absolutely fine, but it is
Android 6 and I feel I need a newer version for compatability with newer
apps and devices.
I definately don't want a status symbol and I would rather pay up front
rather than a monthly fee.
Any thoughts on where to look - or any recommendations?


The kids have always had the Moto G ones - very well made by Lenovo
(sold under the Motorola name), and are extremely good value for money.
I would say 10% below the top of the range from Apple or Samsung in
terms of performance/look, for only around 15-20% of the price.
They come with the latest version of Android and are the first to
receive any update if and when they become available.

This one for example (just bought one for my daughter) is light years
ahead of what you currently have in your pocket in terms of speed,
quality of the camera, compatibility (wifi, bluetooth, etc) and they all
come with 2 year warranty.

https://www.johnlewis.com/motorola-g...B&gclsrc=aw.ds

JohnP December 27th 20 10:36 PM

Mobile phone
 
JoeJoe wrote in
:

https://www.johnlewis.com/motorola-g...4gb-ram-6-4-in
ch-4g-lte-sim-free-64gb/p4934676?sku=238626632&colour=P


Many thanks - I will do some comparisons.

JohnP December 27th 20 10:53 PM

Mobile phone
 
JoeJoe wrote in
:

https://www.johnlewis.com/motorola-g...4gb-ram-6-4-in
ch-4g-lte-sim-free-64gb/p4934676?sku=238626632&colour=Pearl+White&s_ppc
=2dx92700055386116203&tmad=c&tmcampid=2&gclid=Cj0K CQiA_qD_BRDiARIsANjZ2
LCE_NpErNGTwMMF8dga1Q-gsBkqwsmz4-7S3iZ3ue-6oVORv7DILXUaAv8KEALw_wcB&gcl
src=aw.ds


My wife's Lenovo Tablet is excellent.

Thinking I may add NTFC to my "wants"

JoeJoe December 27th 20 11:32 PM

Mobile phone
 
On 27/12/2020 22:53, JohnP wrote:
JoeJoe wrote in
:

https://www.johnlewis.com/motorola-g...4gb-ram-6-4-in
ch-4g-lte-sim-free-64gb/p4934676?sku=238626632&colour=Pearl+White&s_ppc
=2dx92700055386116203&tmad=c&tmcampid=2&gclid=Cj0K CQiA_qD_BRDiARIsANjZ2
LCE_NpErNGTwMMF8dga1Q-gsBkqwsmz4-7S3iZ3ue-6oVORv7DILXUaAv8KEALw_wcB&gcl
src=aw.ds


My wife's Lenovo Tablet is excellent.

Thinking I may add NTFC to my "wants"


This model does not support NFC - particularly useful if you want to use
contactless payment.

If you want NFC then you will have to go for the more expensive 8 Plus
version - the one I bought for my daughter:
https://www.motorola.co.uk/smartphon...g-plus-gen-8/p for example

Note that the 2 year warranty comes from Motorola, so nothing is lost if
not buying from John Lewis

The best website for detailed comparison that I found is
https://www.gsmarena.com/ which allows you to place 3 different models
side by side with all their features listed.

Fred December 27th 20 11:45 PM

Mobile phone
 


"JohnP" wrote in message
. ..
JoeJoe wrote in
:

https://www.johnlewis.com/motorola-g...4gb-ram-6-4-in
ch-4g-lte-sim-free-64gb/p4934676?sku=238626632&colour=Pearl+White&s_ppc
=2dx92700055386116203&tmad=c&tmcampid=2&gclid=Cj0K CQiA_qD_BRDiARIsANjZ2
LCE_NpErNGTwMMF8dga1Q-gsBkqwsmz4-7S3iZ3ue-6oVORv7DILXUaAv8KEALw_wcB&gcl
src=aw.ds


My wife's Lenovo Tablet is excellent.

Thinking I may add NTFC to my "wants"


Yeah, I would, I pay for everything with the phone
now. Much more secure than a contactless card
with even the most shonky operation because
the merchant never sees any of your details and
cant skim the card and cant do any transactions
if you lose the card or it gets stolen.


The Natural Philosopher[_2_] December 28th 20 08:12 AM

Mobile phone
 
On 27/12/2020 16:36, Fred wrote:


"Michael Chare" wrote in message
...
On 27/12/2020 09:21, JohnP wrote:
I am not a phone geek. My first and only smart phone is a Doogee x5 Max
which cost less than Ł80 a few years ago. It is absolutely fine, but
it is
Android 6 and I feel I need a newer version for compatability with newer
apps and devices.
I definately don't want a status symbol and I would rather pay up front
rather than a monthly fee.
Any thoughts on where to look - or any recommendations?


I have an Xiaomi MI A2 bought about two years ago.* At the time a
fairly good phone for the money.


I won't control the washing machine though I have never understood why
I would want it to.


So you can have some programs you use all
the time

Yes. I have one.

and just tap on the one you want
In a unique way of doing things
with a particular wash instead of farting
around selecting the right program on the
machine with its unique way of doing things.

This guy has cognitive dissonance. If its got 'programs' it must be better.

Back in the day in Jo burg we all had Blackomatics. Fully voice
activated and could sense the type of wash needed and do the ironing and
put the clothes in the drawers as well.

When a washing machine can do all that, automatically, I might consider
more than the basic..

Same with the microwave with those
too stupid to work out how to use one.


And here we see what is behind the cognitive dissonance. The man thinks
that by having lots of knobs and dials and fiddleables and a touch
screen, he is showing off how intelligent he is, whereas to the
professional IT man, he is merely showing how stupid he was to have
bought such a piece of blinged up consumer tat in the first place..

If Rattner had made consumer electronics, it would all have had a touch
screen

Smart people used dumb technology. Stupid people buy smart technology.


--
A leader is best When people barely know he exists. Of a good leader,
who talks little,When his work is done, his aim fulfilled,They will say,
We did this ourselves.

Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

ARW December 28th 20 11:21 AM

Mobile phone
 
On 27/12/2020 16:35, Richard wrote:
On 27/12/2020 13:32, ARW wrote:
On 27/12/2020 12:44, Richard wrote:
On 27/12/2020 11:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 27/12/2020 09:21, JohnP wrote:
I am not a phone geek. My first and only smart phone is a Doogee x5
Max
which cost less than £80 a few years ago. It is absolutely fine,
but it is
Android 6 and I feel I need a newer version for compatability with
newer
apps and devices.
I definately don't want a status symbol and I would rather pay up
front
rather than a monthly fee.
Any thoughts on where to look - or any recommendations?

A samsung galaxy is pretty boring and stock

Compared to what?


An iron.


I'm not gonna fall for that one.


I would have been disappointed had you done so:-)

My Galaxy 2017 A5 went to the grave a few weeks ago. Suicide jump off
the top of the tower scaffold.

I had a second hand S6 as a backup (that runs on Android 7).

My next phone will also be a galaxy. Probably the S8.



--
Adam

Richard[_10_] December 28th 20 01:50 PM

Mobile phone
 
On 28/12/2020 11:21, ARW wrote:
On 27/12/2020 16:35, Richard wrote:
On 27/12/2020 13:32, ARW wrote:
On 27/12/2020 12:44, Richard wrote:
On 27/12/2020 11:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 27/12/2020 09:21, JohnP wrote:
I am not a phone geek. My first and only smart phone is a Doogee
x5 Max
which cost less than £80 a few years ago. It is absolutely fine,
but it is
Android 6 and I feel I need a newer version for compatability with
newer
apps and devices.
I definately don't want a status symbol and I would rather pay up
front
rather than a monthly fee.
Any thoughts on where to look - or any recommendations?

A samsung galaxy is pretty boring and stock

Compared to what?

An iron.


I'm not gonna fall for that one.


I would have been disappointed had you done so:-)

My Galaxy 2017 A5 went to the grave a few weeks ago. Suicide jump off
the top of the tower scaffold.

I had a second hand S6 as a backup (that runs on Android 7).

My next phone will also be a galaxy. Probably the S8.


That's what I have. Seems OK to me, but is ****ing useless at getting
creases out.

Andrew[_22_] December 28th 20 03:22 PM

Mobile phone
 
On 28/12/2020 09:24, Owain Lastname wrote:
On Monday, 28 December 2020 at 08:13:01 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Back in the day in Jo burg we all had Blackomatics. Fully voice
activated and could sense the type of wash needed and do the ironing and
put the clothes in the drawers as well.


People had similar in the UK as well, but they all found they could get better pay and conditions working in washing-machine factories.

Now of course we have no washing-machine factories and girls who leave school without knowing what a goffering iron is, let alone how to use one.

Owain




https://www.ebac.com/washing-machines/

Fred December 28th 20 05:19 PM

Mobile phone
 


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 27/12/2020 16:36, Fred wrote:


"Michael Chare" wrote in message
...
On 27/12/2020 09:21, JohnP wrote:
I am not a phone geek. My first and only smart phone is a Doogee x5 Max
which cost less than Ł80 a few years ago. It is absolutely fine, but it
is
Android 6 and I feel I need a newer version for compatability with
newer
apps and devices.
I definately don't want a status symbol and I would rather pay up front
rather than a monthly fee.
Any thoughts on where to look - or any recommendations?


I have an Xiaomi MI A2 bought about two years ago. At the time a fairly
good phone for the money.


I won't control the washing machine though I have never understood why I
would want it to.


So you can have some programs you use all
the time


Yes. I have one.

and just tap on the one you want


In a unique way of doing things
with a particular wash instead of farting
around selecting the right program on the
machine with its unique way of doing things.


This guy has cognitive dissonance.


We'll see...

If its got 'programs' it must be better.


Nope, just more convenient so you dont have
to remember how each appliance does things.
Ideal for stupids like you who can't even manage
to get a digital microwave to heat whats in it at
full power for 4 minutes.

Back in the day in Jo burg we all had Blackomatics. Fully voice activated
and could sense the type of wash needed and do the ironing and put the
clothes in the drawers as well.


And now you are so destitute that you have to
do it yourself and can't even manage to answer
an incoming call on a mobile phone.

When a washing machine can do all that, automatically, I might consider
more than the basic..


You have always been completely irrelevant.

Same with the microwave with those
too stupid to work out how to use one.


And here we see what is behind the cognitive dissonance.


We'll see...

The man thinks that by having lots of knobs and dials and fiddleables and
a touch screen, he is showing off how intelligent he is,


Nope, how much more convenient it is to do stuff like
rice which needs more than just a power level and a time.

whereas to the professional IT man,


Who can't even manage to answer
an incoming call on a mobile phone.

he is merely showing how stupid he was to have bought such a piece of
blinged up consumer tat in the first place..


If Rattner had made consumer electronics, it would all have had a touch
screen


Smart people used dumb technology.


Clearly not you who can't even manage to
answer an incoming call on a mobile phone.

Stupid people buy smart technology.


Smart people buy tech which makes things more
convenient like a smartphone which tells you which
supermarket has all the stuff on your shopping list
in stock and even lets you avoid standing in line at
the checkout and get infected with the virus when
their country is too stupid to handle the virus without
an immense pile of corpses. And even gets really
radical and tells you when it opens and closes too.


JohnP December 28th 20 06:27 PM

Mobile phone
 


Yeah, I would, I pay for everything with the phone
now. Much more secure than a contactless card
with even the most shonky operation because
the merchant never sees any of your details and
cant skim the card and cant do any transactions
if you lose the card or it gets stolen.



One of the good things to come from the pandemic is the widespread
acceptance of cashless payments for even piddling amounts.

another is not having to kiss virtual strange women as a courtesy.

Peeler[_4_] December 28th 20 06:38 PM

More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rodent Speed!
 
On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 10:45:57 +1100, Fred, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:


Yeah, I would, I pay for everything with the phone
now.


Yeah, you ARE that kind of a typical mindless senile consumer who is "proud"
of being a "progressive" senile asshole, senile Rodent!

--
John addressing the senile Australian pest:
"You are a complete idiot. But you make me larf. LOL"
MID:

Peeler[_4_] December 28th 20 06:42 PM

More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rodent Speed!
 
On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 04:19:13 +1100, Fred, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

Stupid people buy smart technology.


Smart people buy tech which makes things more


ONLY mindless consumers such as yourself, will buy any new-fangled idiotic
gadgets to compensate for their emotional deficiencies, you absolutely
idiotic, typical, senile Google, M$, Apple and Amazon adorer!

Go have another chat with your one and only "girlfriend", senile asshole:
Alexa! LOL

--
Marland revealing the senile sociopath's pathology:
"You have mentioned Alexa in a couple of threads recently, it is not a real
woman you know even if it is the only thing with a female name that stays
around around while you talk it to it.
Poor sad git who has to resort to Usenet and electronic devices for any
interaction as all real people run a mile to get away from you boring them
to death."
MID:

The Natural Philosopher[_2_] December 28th 20 08:19 PM

Mobile phone
 
On 28/12/2020 17:19, Fred wrote:


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 27/12/2020 16:36, Fred wrote:


"Michael Chare" wrote in message
...
On 27/12/2020 09:21, JohnP wrote:
I am not a phone geek. My first and only smart phone is a Doogee x5
Max
which cost less than Ł80 a few years ago. It is absolutely fine,
but it is
Android 6 and I feel I need a newer version for compatability with
newer
apps and devices.
I definately don't want a status symbol and I would rather pay up
front
rather than a monthly fee.
Any thoughts on where to look - or any recommendations?

I have an Xiaomi MI A2 bought about two years ago.* At the time a
fairly good phone for the money.

I won't control the washing machine though I have never understood
why I would want it to.

So you can have some programs you use all
the time


Yes. I have one.

*and just tap on the one you want


In a unique way of doing things
with a particular wash instead of farting
around selecting the right program on the
machine with its unique way of doing things.


This guy has cognitive dissonance.


We'll see...

If its got 'programs' it must be better.


Nope, just more convenient so you dont have
to remember how each appliance does things.
Ideal for stupids like you who can't even manage
to get a digital microwave to heat whats in it at
full power for 4 minutes.

Back in the day in Jo burg we all had Blackomatics. Fully voice
activated and could sense the type of wash needed and do the ironing
and put the clothes in the drawers* as well.


And now you are so destitute that you have to
do it yourself and can't even manage to answer
an incoming call on a mobile phone.

Yup! :-)


When a washing machine can do all that, automatically, I might
consider more than the basic..


You have always been completely irrelevant.

Oh dear...


Same with the microwave with those
too stupid to work out how to use one.


And here we see what is behind the cognitive dissonance.


We'll see...

The man thinks that by having lots of knobs and dials and fiddleables
and a touch screen, he is showing off how intelligent he is,


Nope, how much more convenient it is to do stuff like
rice which needs more than just a power level and a time.

No, it doesn't actually,.

whereas to the professional IT man,


Who can't even manage to answer
an incoming call on a mobile phone.

he is merely showing how stupid he was to have bought such a piece of
blinged up consumer tat in the first place..


If Rattner had made consumer electronics, it would all have had a
touch screen


Smart people used dumb technology.


Clearly not you who can't even manage to
answer an incoming call on a mobile phone.

Oh dear

Stupid people buy smart technology.


Smart people buy tech which makes things more
convenient like a smartphone which tells you which
supermarket has all the stuff on your shopping list
in stock and even lets you avoid standing in line at
the checkout and get infected with the virus when
their country is too stupid to handle the virus without
an immense pile of corpses. And even gets really
radical and tells you when it opens and closes too.


Poor Fred. Thinks he is dead smart cos he can use almost 1% of the
featrures on his mobile phone

--
WOKE is an acronym... Without Originality, Knowledge or Education.

ARW December 28th 20 10:42 PM

Mobile phone
 
On 28/12/2020 18:27, JohnP wrote:

Yeah, I would, I pay for everything with the phone
now. Much more secure than a contactless card
with even the most shonky operation because
the merchant never sees any of your details and
cant skim the card and cant do any transactions
if you lose the card or it gets stolen.



One of the good things to come from the pandemic is the widespread
acceptance of cashless payments for even piddling amounts.



Not if you are stuck behind a driver using cashless at Dunham Bridge.


another is not having to kiss virtual strange women as a courtesy.


That's their loss.


--
Adam

Another John December 29th 20 02:34 PM

Mobile phone
 
In article ,
ARW wrote:

....
My Galaxy 2017 A5 went to the grave a few weeks ago. Suicide jump off
the top of the tower scaffold.

I had a second hand S6 as a backup (that runs on Android 7).

My next phone will also be a galaxy. Probably the S8.


Your story suddenly prompted me Adam ...

You must have 00s of contacts on your phone, not to mention jpgs, videos
etc etc (needed for your work, apart from anything else).

So how do you back up your phone? You're not a geek, you're a very
busy, but very savvy, working man: so what's the backup strategy?

It only occurred to me because (like the OP JohnP) I moved from a fairly
minimal dumb phone, to a fairly smart phone early this year, and I've
noticed that gradually my dependencies on it are creeping up.

Cheers
(Another) John

Another John December 29th 20 02:38 PM

Mobile phone
 
In article
,
Another John wrote:

Your story suddenly prompted me Adam ...

You must have 00s of contacts on your phone, not to mention jpgs, videos
etc etc (needed for your work, apart from anything else).

So how do you back up your phone? You're not a geek, you're a very
busy, but very savvy, working man: so what's the backup strategy?

It only occurred to me because (like the OP JohnP) I moved from a fairly
minimal dumb phone, to a fairly smart phone early this year, and I've
noticed that gradually my dependencies on it are creeping up.

Cheers
(Another) John


DOH!! Meant to say: my new "fairly smart phone" is a Samsung Galaxy
A10, 130quid at Tesco, this April. (Seems pretty good to me.)

John

Dave Plowman (News) December 29th 20 02:56 PM

Mobile phone
 
In article ,
Another John wrote:
In article ,
ARW wrote:


....
My Galaxy 2017 A5 went to the grave a few weeks ago. Suicide jump off
the top of the tower scaffold.

I had a second hand S6 as a backup (that runs on Android 7).

My next phone will also be a galaxy. Probably the S8.


Your story suddenly prompted me Adam ...


You must have 00s of contacts on your phone, not to mention jpgs, videos
etc etc (needed for your work, apart from anything else).


So how do you back up your phone? You're not a geek, you're a very
busy, but very savvy, working man: so what's the backup strategy?


It only occurred to me because (like the OP JohnP) I moved from a fairly
minimal dumb phone, to a fairly smart phone early this year, and I've
noticed that gradually my dependencies on it are creeping up.


I use My Phone Explorer (free, but likes a donation). Needs to be on both
phone and PC. Allows them to talk to one another easily via cable, Wi-Fi
or Bluetooth.

So easy to back things up. Also find it handy where a proper keyboard
makes modifying contact lists etc on the phone easier. And sending texts
using the PC keyboard.

Much much better than the Samsung PC software.

Of course simply plugging in your phone to a PC USB port may allow you to
access its storage. For common files like JPEGs, etc.

--
*Frankly, scallop, I don't give a clam

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Andy Burns[_13_] December 29th 20 03:17 PM

Mobile phone
 

So how do you back up your phone? You're not a geek, you're a very
busy, but very savvy, working man: so what's the backup strategy?

It only occurred to me because (like the OP JohnP) I moved from a fairly
minimal dumb phone, to a fairly smart phone early this year, and I've
noticed that gradually my dependencies on it are creeping up.


For most people that's something the cloud is very handy for ...

In Settings accounts, presumably you have a google account? What
option are enabled under sync?

Mine keeps copies of my contacts, text messages, call history, photos,
calendar, todo list ... in my case email is handled separately.



Fred December 29th 20 04:02 PM

Mobile phone
 


"Another John" wrote in message
...
In article ,
ARW wrote:

....
My Galaxy 2017 A5 went to the grave a few weeks ago. Suicide jump off
the top of the tower scaffold.

I had a second hand S6 as a backup (that runs on Android 7).

My next phone will also be a galaxy. Probably the S8.


Your story suddenly prompted me Adam ...

You must have 00s of contacts on your phone, not to mention jpgs, videos
etc etc (needed for your work, apart from anything else).

So how do you back up your phone? You're not a geek, you're a very
busy, but very savvy, working man: so what's the backup strategy?

It only occurred to me because (like the OP JohnP) I moved from a fairly
minimal dumb phone, to a fairly smart phone early this year, and I've
noticed that gradually my dependencies on it are creeping up.


Its all completely automatic on an iphone.
If your phone dies like his did, just replace
it, enter your apple ID on the replacement
and carry on regardless.


Andy Burns[_13_] December 29th 20 04:11 PM

Mobile phone
 
Fred wrote:

Its all completely automatic on an iphone.
If your phone dies like his did, just replace
it, enter your apple ID on the replacement
and carry on regardless.


Same with android phones ...


Peeler[_4_] December 29th 20 04:44 PM

More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rodent Speed!
 
On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 03:02:35 +1100, Fred, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:



Its all completely automatic on an iphone.
If your phone dies like his did,


If only YOU finally died, you useless 86-year-old trolling senile cretin!

--
Sqwertz to Rodent Speed:
"This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative
asshole.
MID:

Michael Chare[_4_] December 29th 20 07:45 PM

Mobile phone
 
On 28/12/2020 22:42, ARW wrote:
On 28/12/2020 18:27, JohnP wrote:

Yeah, I would, I pay for everything with the phone
now. Much more secure than a contactless card
with even the most shonky operation because
the merchant never sees any of your details and
cant skim the card and cant do any transactions
if you lose the card or it gets stolen.



One of the good things to come from the pandemic is the widespread
acceptance of cashless payments for even piddling amounts.



Not if you are stuck behind a driver using cashless at Dunham Bridge.


another is not having to kiss virtual strange women as a courtesy.


That's their loss.

The M6 Toll northbound would not accept my credit card which admittedly
is slightly warped. Every other purchase I have made with it has
worked. Life would be easier if the toll booth would accept a
contactless payment. I only used the toll road because the M6 itself
was closed for some road works.

--
Michael Chare

ARW December 29th 20 09:15 PM

Mobile phone
 
On 29/12/2020 15:17, Andy Burns wrote:

So how do you back up your phone?** You're not a geek, you're a very
busy, but very savvy, working man: so what's the backup strategy?

It only occurred to me because (like the OP JohnP) I moved from a fairly
minimal dumb phone, to a fairly smart* phone early this year, and I've
noticed that gradually my dependencies on it are creeping up.


For most people that's something the cloud is very handy for ...

In Settings accounts, presumably you have a google account?* What
option are enabled under sync?

Mine keeps copies of my contacts, text messages, call history, photos,
calendar, todo list ... in my case email is handled separately.



I used smart switch. But I lost some data as I had transferred the data
3 weeks previously.

--
Adam

Dave Liquorice[_2_] December 29th 20 10:41 PM

Mobile phone
 
On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 16:11:32 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:

Its all completely automatic on an iphone. If your phone dies like

his
did, just replace it, enter your apple ID on the replacement
and carry on regardless.


Same with android phones ...


Only if you've let Apple/Google have your data (I don't) or run your
own cloud/sync server (I do). Or use something like "My Phone
Explorer".

--
Cheers
Dave.





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