OT Electric Car Manufacturing
With almost every brand having an Electric Car on the market or coming
soon, it leads me to think, are there some generic designs of motor, and controllers that these firms are all using (like Lotus used to design Suspension for many brands). Setting up an efficient motor production line from scratch would need some advanced thinking - surely they are all buying into existing manufacturing engineering. Any thoughts as to who the big players are? |
OT Electric Car Manufacturing
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JohnP wrote: With almost every brand having an Electric Car on the market or coming soon, it leads me to think, are there some generic designs of motor, and controllers that these firms are all using (like Lotus used to design Suspension for many brands). Don't think Lotus designed suspension systems or indeed complete engines. They tended to fine tune existing designs as consultants to the makers. Setting up an efficient motor production line from scratch would need some advanced thinking - surely they are all buying into existing manufacturing engineering. Any thoughts as to who the big players are? Wouldn't the same apply to cordless drills? Just about as many makers of those as car makers. IMHO, it's more likely to apply to the battery makers. -- *Why isn't there mouse-flavoured cat food? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
OT Electric Car Manufacturing
On 20/12/2020 12:12, JohnP wrote:
With almost every brand having an Electric Car on the market or coming soon, it leads me to think, are there some generic designs of motor, and controllers that these firms are all using (like Lotus used to design Suspension for many brands). Setting up an efficient motor production line from scratch would need some advanced thinking - surely they are all buying into existing manufacturing engineering. Any thoughts as to who the big players are? GKN Power systems supply drive shafts and EV motor systems to many car manufacturers. https://www.gknautomotive.com/en/sys...drive-systems/ |
OT Electric Car Manufacturing
JohnP wrote:
With almost every brand having an Electric Car on the market or coming soon, it leads me to think, are there some generic designs of motor, and controllers that these firms are all using (like Lotus used to design Suspension for many brands). Setting up an efficient motor production line from scratch would need some advanced thinking - surely they are all buying into existing manufacturing engineering. Any thoughts as to who the big players are? Those are called "crate motors". There are some for BEVs. The big players don't use them. GM put out an article a few months back, where they showed pictures of their "engineering fleet" of electric motors. And these will be what eventually appears in their vehicles. The things looked as ugly as a pile of used GM transmissions. VW has a few "common platforms" for its vehicles, and the Volkwagon Microbus thing will use the same platform as one of the existing cars. Just change the body on top, retune suspension and so on. I hope they don't forget to put a gasoline heater in the glove box. Think how that will extend the battery range. Paul |
OT Electric Car Manufacturing
Andrew wrote in
: https://www.gknautomotive.com/en/sys...ectric/Modular -electric-drive-systems/ Very interesting - thanks. |
OT Electric Car Manufacturing
On 20/12/2020 12:12, JohnP wrote:
With almost every brand having an Electric Car on the market or coming soon, it leads me to think, are there some generic designs of motor, and controllers that these firms are all using (like Lotus used to design Suspension for many brands). Setting up an efficient motor production line from scratch would need some advanced thinking - surely they are all buying into existing manufacturing engineering. Any thoughts as to who the big players are? Actually the electric motors are VERY simple. I've made little ones for model planes, so am sure a manufacture could, The winding of the coils requires the sort of kit that winds any other leccy motor or alternator, so probably manufacture is subbed out to firms with it Its the design, especially of the electronics, where the magic lies. -- If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State. Joseph Goebbels |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote in
: On 20/12/2020 12:12, JohnP wrote: With almost every brand having an Electric Car on the market or coming soon, it leads me to think, are there some generic designs of motor, and controllers that these firms are all using (like Lotus used to design Suspension for many brands). Setting up an efficient motor production line from scratch would need some advanced thinking - surely they are all buying into existing manufacturing engineering. Any thoughts as to who the big players are? Actually the electric motors are VERY simple. I've made little ones for model planes, so am sure a manufacture could, The winding of the coils requires the sort of kit that winds any other leccy motor or alternator, so probably manufacture is subbed out to firms with it Its the design, especially of the electronics, where the magic lies. I think car motors are in another league. Some use welded copper bars as the field winding. Neobdinium magnets in armatures. |
OT Electric Car Manufacturing
On 21/12/2020 16:47, JohnP wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote in : On 20/12/2020 12:12, JohnP wrote: With almost every brand having an Electric Car on the market or coming soon, it leads me to think, are there some generic designs of motor, and controllers that these firms are all using (like Lotus used to design Suspension for many brands). Setting up an efficient motor production line from scratch would need some advanced thinking - surely they are all buying into existing manufacturing engineering. Any thoughts as to who the big players are? Actually the electric motors are VERY simple. I've made little ones for model planes, so am sure a manufacture could, The winding of the coils requires the sort of kit that winds any other leccy motor or alternator, so probably manufacture is subbed out to firms with it Its the design, especially of the electronics, where the magic lies. I think car motors are in another league. Some use welded copper bars as the field winding. Neobdinium magnets in armatures. Not really a huge difference - that's a fairly standard way to achieve very high currents. and my motors had neodymium magnets in the rotors too. -- "What do you think about Gay Marriage?" "I don't." "Don't what?" "Think about Gay Marriage." |
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