We may be in need of a 7kW EV charging point in the fairly near future.

Anyone got any advice on makes, installers (I assume it's not DiY to a
competent DiYer), what to avoid, what to ensure? It's all new to me.

--
Frank

F wrote:

We may be in need of a 7kW EV charging point in the fairly near future.

Anyone got any advice on* makes, installers (I assume it's not DiY to a
competent DiYer),

To qualify for the grant they have to be installed by someone on the scheme.

what to avoid,

Rolec?

what to ensure? It's all new to me.

There are specific requirements about earthing for EVs, possibly
requiring a separate earth rod, particular RCBO type and carefully
keeping apart the house earth and car earth.

There are now several chargers that do all the earth handling
internally, and might be OK for DIY e.g.

https://myenergi.com/product/zappi

Look at a couple of EV videos on youtube by John Ward or Artisan Electrics.

On 26/11/2020 08:00, Andy Burns wrote:
F wrote:

We may be in need of a 7kW EV charging point in the fairly near future.

Anyone got any advice on* makes, installers (I assume it's not DiY to a
competent DiYer),

To qualify for the grant they have to be installed by someone on the scheme.

what to avoid,

Rolec?

what to ensure? It's all new to me.

There are specific requirements about earthing for EVs, possibly
requiring a separate earth rod, particular RCBO type and carefully
keeping apart the house earth and car earth.

There are now several chargers that do all the earth handling
internally, and might be OK for DIY e.g.

https://myenergi.com/product/zappi

Look at a couple of EV videos on youtube by John Ward or Artisan Electrics.

Thanks. Understood!

--
Frank

On 26/11/2020 08:00, Andy Burns wrote:
F wrote:

We may be in need of a 7kW EV charging point in the fairly near future.

Anyone got any advice on* makes, installers (I assume it's not DiY to
a competent DiYer),

To qualify for the grant they have to be installed by someone on the
scheme.

what to avoid,

Rolec?

what to ensure? It's all new to me.

There are specific requirements about earthing for EVs, possibly
requiring a separate earth rod, particular RCBO type and carefully
keeping apart the house earth and car earth.

Bugger. Does that mean I would need two separate supplies for EV
and normal garage power (which might include an Air-water heat pump
at some point) ?

At the moment my garage is detached and separated from the house by
a metre wide path and the original builder? ran power into the garage
via some of that TUFF cable (not swa), 'professionally' installed inside
a 4 foot length of yellow plastic gas pipe, buried under the original
concrete path and curled up 90 degrees at each end. The house side
is clipped to the outside wall and goes through the cavity wall and into
the back of a single socket connected to the ring main via an FCU.
Garage end has another 13 amp FCU feeding lights and single socket.

I am about to replace the gas pipe with some 25mm black conduit but if
I need two separate cables then some 38mm stuff might be better.

The cable that Doncaster sell has 2-core or cat5E signal cable in the
same sheath, but how would the cat5e be 'split out' so that it connects
to the house network ?. This must be cutting the sheath of the main
cable and pulling the cat5e out before the cable enters a consumer
units or junction box ?.

I've been waiting for Adam to install one so he can illuminate us.

There are now several chargers that do all the earth handling
internally, and might be OK for DIY e.g.

https://myenergi.com/product/zappi

Look at a couple of EV videos on youtube by John Ward or Artisan Electrics.

On 26/11/2020 16:34, Andrew wrote:


I've been waiting for Adam to install one so he can illuminate us.

I fitted one on Monday.

We are OLEV registered and can organise the grants. But you need to
buy/order a car before you can apply for the grant.
Work can be done without a grant.
As to what is needed I really would have to make site visit as it is not
as simple as a new shower circuit.

--
Adam

On 26/11/2020 17:22, ARW wrote:
On 26/11/2020 16:34, Andrew wrote:


I've been waiting for Adam to install one so he can illuminate us.

I fitted one on Monday.

We are OLEV registered and can organise the grants. But you need to
buy/order a car before you can apply for the grant.
Work can be done without a grant.
As to what is needed I really would have to make site visit as it is not
as simple as a new shower circuit.


I'm near the South Coast, a bit too far I suspect.
I was hoping for elaboration of the need for a signal cable,
which the Doncaster cable has built in (2-core or cat5e).

Did you have to connect these up ?. Does the energy supplier
have the right to stop an EV car being charged by remote
control (in times of supply stress).

Andrew wrote:

I was hoping for elaboration of the need for a signal cable,
which the Doncaster cable has built in (2-core or cat5e).

That's intended for smart chargers such as the zappi, so it has one or
more pairs of data cable to connect to one or more current transformers
(e.g. on the mains feed, or solar feed)

Of course as it's insulated to mains levels, you *can* use it as cat5
cable, I'd say gland it off into a box, then separate the data and power
wires off from there.

On 26/11/2020 20:31, Andrew wrote:


I'm near the South Coast, a bit too far I suspect.
I was hoping for elaboration of the need for a signal cable,
which the Doncaster cable has built in (2-core or cat5e).


Some chargers have a current sensor on a meter tail, which senses the
total current being consumed in the house and throttles back the
charging current if there's a risk of exceeding the supply capacity. The
signal cable to which you refer is almost certainly intended for that.
--
Cheers,
Roger

On 26/11/2020 16:34, Andrew wrote:
On 26/11/2020 08:00, Andy Burns wrote:


There are specific requirements about earthing for EVs, possibly
requiring a separate earth rod, particular RCBO type and carefully
keeping apart the house earth and car earth.

Bugger. Does that mean I would need two separate supplies for EV
and normal garage power (which might include an Air-water heat pump
at some point) ?


Not necessarily. The earthing requirement is for making sure that your
car bodywork can't become live if the supply earth is lost and another
fault occurs at the same time. This mainly applies to TN-C supplies
where earth and neutral are combined, and isn't a problem with TN-S
supplies. In any case, many EV chargers now have built-in PEN
protection, which immediately disconnects them in the event of such a fault.

As to whether you need a separate supply cable, that will depend on the
capacity of the existing cable. There seems to be tendency to use
oversize cable to minimise the voltage drop and, perhaps, provide
future-proofing. So, if the existing cable is less than 6 mm^2, it might
be marginal.
--
Cheers,
Roger

On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 8:01:02 AM UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
F wrote:

We may be in need of a 7kW EV charging point in the fairly near future.

Anyone got any advice on makes, installers (I assume it's not DiY to a
competent DiYer),
To qualify for the grant they have to be installed by someone on the scheme.

what to avoid,

Rolec?
what to ensure? It's all new to me.
There are specific requirements about earthing for EVs, possibly
requiring a separate earth rod, particular RCBO type and carefully
keeping apart the house earth and car earth.

There are now several chargers that do all the earth handling
internally, and might be OK for DIY e.g.

https://myenergi.com/product/zappi

Look at a couple of EV videos on youtube by John Ward or Artisan Electrics.

You probably don't need one.
Don't be taken in by the salesman,
A slow overnight charge from a 13a socket is all most people need.
No-one runs their battery to depletion, you only put back in what you've taken out.
Slow charges prolong battery life too.
Work out where you're going and power and energy needed.
An overnight slow charge typically gives over 100 miles of range.

In article , harry
wrote:
On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 8:01:02 AM UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
F wrote:

We may be in need of a 7kW EV charging point in the fairly near
future.

Anyone got any advice on makes, installers (I assume it's not DiY to
a competent DiYer),
To qualify for the grant they have to be installed by someone on the
scheme.

what to avoid,

Rolec?
what to ensure? It's all new to me.
There are specific requirements about earthing for EVs, possibly
requiring a separate earth rod, particular RCBO type and carefully
keeping apart the house earth and car earth.

There are now several chargers that do all the earth handling
internally, and might be OK for DIY e.g.

https://myenergi.com/product/zappi

Look at a couple of EV videos on youtube by John Ward or Artisan
Electrics.

You probably don't need one. Don't be taken in by the salesman, A slow
overnight charge from a 13a socket is all most people need. No-one runs
their battery to depletion, you only put back in what you've taken out.
Slow charges prolong battery life too. Work out where you're going and
power and energy needed. An overnight slow charge typically gives over
100 miles of range.

so, my 400 mile, 7 hour, journey takes 4 days in an EV?

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

charles wrote:
In article , harry
wrote:
On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 8:01:02 AM UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
F wrote:

We may be in need of a 7kW EV charging point in the fairly near
future.

Anyone got any advice on makes, installers (I assume it's not DiY to
a competent DiYer),
To qualify for the grant they have to be installed by someone on the
scheme.

what to avoid,
Rolec?
what to ensure? It's all new to me.
There are specific requirements about earthing for EVs, possibly
requiring a separate earth rod, particular RCBO type and carefully
keeping apart the house earth and car earth.

There are now several chargers that do all the earth handling
internally, and might be OK for DIY e.g.

https://myenergi.com/product/zappi

Look at a couple of EV videos on youtube by John Ward or Artisan
Electrics.

You probably don't need one. Don't be taken in by the salesman, A slow
overnight charge from a 13a socket is all most people need. No-one runs
their battery to depletion, you only put back in what you've taken out.
Slow charges prolong battery life too. Work out where you're going and
power and energy needed. An overnight slow charge typically gives over
100 miles of range.

so, my 400 mile, 7 hour, journey takes 4 days in an EV?


https://www.foxbusiness.com/features...from-la-to-nyc

"The Drive editor-at-large Alex Roy and the car’s owner,
Daniel Zorrilla, drove a Tesla Model 3 across country from
Los Angeles to New York City in 50 hours, 16 minutes and 32 seconds,
setting another Cannonball Run record for an electric vehicle."

"The pair drove approximately 2,860 miles from Redondo Beach, California
to its final destination, the Red Ball garage in New York City, at
speeds ranging from 120 to 140 miles per hour.

'We had a spotter plane flying overhead looking for police, rating
us the police locations, night visions, binoculars, scanner, it’s
like a military operation,' Roy said.

Roy and Zorrilla spent just over $100 in total charging costs and
kept the heater off in the car to save battery life.
"

2860 miles / 50.25 hours = 56 miles per hour averaging in charge time,
while driving well over that speed on the
highway (120kph to 140kph)

Using those kinds of numbers, your 400 mile trip takes 8 hours or so,
just rounding a bit.

Paul

In article , Paul
wrote:
charles wrote:
In article ,
harry wrote:
On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 8:01:02 AM UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
F wrote:

We may be in need of a 7kW EV charging point in the fairly near
future.

Anyone got any advice on makes, installers (I assume it's not DiY to
a competent DiYer),
To qualify for the grant they have to be installed by someone on the
scheme.

what to avoid,
Rolec?
what to ensure? It's all new to me.
There are specific requirements about earthing for EVs, possibly
requiring a separate earth rod, particular RCBO type and carefully
keeping apart the house earth and car earth.

There are now several chargers that do all the earth handling
internally, and might be OK for DIY e.g.

https://myenergi.com/product/zappi

Look at a couple of EV videos on youtube by John Ward or Artisan
Electrics.

You probably don't need one. Don't be taken in by the salesman, A
slow overnight charge from a 13a socket is all most people need.
No-one runs their battery to depletion, you only put back in what
you've taken out. Slow charges prolong battery life too. Work out
where you're going and power and energy needed. An overnight slow
charge typically gives over 100 miles of range.

so, my 400 mile, 7 hour, journey takes 4 days in an EV?


https://www.foxbusiness.com/features...from-la-to-nyc

"The Drive editor-at-large Alex Roy and the car’s owner, Daniel
Zorrilla, drove a Tesla Model 3 across country from Los Angeles to
New York City in 50 hours, 16 minutes and 32 seconds, setting
another Cannonball Run record for an electric vehicle."

"The pair drove approximately 2,860 miles from Redondo Beach,
California to its final destination, the Red Ball garage in New York
City, at speeds ranging from 120 to 140 miles per hour.

'We had a spotter plane flying overhead looking for police, rating
us the police locations, night visions, binoculars, scanner, it’s
like a military operation,' Roy said.

Roy and Zorrilla spent just over $100 in total charging costs and
kept the heater off in the car to save battery life. "

2860 miles / 50.25 hours = 56 miles per hour averaging in charge time,
while driving well over that speed on the
highway (120kph to 140kph)

Using those kinds of numbers, your 400 mile trip takes 8 hours or so,
just rounding a bit.


if there were guaranteed working & free charging points and if I had a
Tesla. I couldn't afford the spotter plane

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On 28/11/2020 13:54, charles wrote:

so, my 400 mile, 7 hour, journey takes 4 days in an EV?


I'm half way Charles, and I have off-street parking and a 13A socket if
you need it.

Bill

In article ,
williamwright wrote:
On 28/11/2020 13:54, charles wrote:

so, my 400 mile, 7 hour, journey takes 4 days in an EV?


I'm half way Charles, and I have off-street parking and a 13A socket if
you need it.

Bill

In the words of my newsagent's son when I was late paying the bill "I know
were you live".
But, I haven't gome electric yet and may not for some time. I'm aiting for
a proper estate car. The MG promised one has a 6" drop between cill and
floor at the back.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On 28/11/2020 13:54, charles wrote:
In article , harry
wrote:
On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 8:01:02 AM UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
F wrote:

We may be in need of a 7kW EV charging point in the fairly near
future.

Anyone got any advice on makes, installers (I assume it's not DiY to
a competent DiYer),
To qualify for the grant they have to be installed by someone on the
scheme.

what to avoid,

Rolec?
what to ensure? It's all new to me.
There are specific requirements about earthing for EVs, possibly
requiring a separate earth rod, particular RCBO type and carefully
keeping apart the house earth and car earth.

There are now several chargers that do all the earth handling
internally, and might be OK for DIY e.g.

https://myenergi.com/product/zappi

Look at a couple of EV videos on youtube by John Ward or Artisan
Electrics.

You probably don't need one. Don't be taken in by the salesman, A slow
overnight charge from a 13a socket is all most people need. No-one runs
their battery to depletion, you only put back in what you've taken out.
Slow charges prolong battery life too. Work out where you're going and
power and energy needed. An overnight slow charge typically gives over
100 miles of range.

so, my 400 mile, 7 hour, journey takes 4 days in an EV?


8 days if you want the heater or a/c on:-)

--
Adam

F news@nowhere wrote:
We may be in need of a 7kW EV charging point in the fairly near future.

Anyone got any advice on makes, installers (I assume it's not DiY to a
competent DiYer), what to avoid, what to ensure? It's all new to me.


We were recommended a Pod-point by our dealer, which we bought. Rather
regretting it now as its a €œdumb€� charger with no programming abilities
(although that can be circumvented). Rolec chargers seem prone to
electrical failures (but that may just be a reflection of the relatively
high numbers of them). It was discounted though and seems to work fine.
Ive ordered a €œsmart relay switch€� to allow me to control it from my
phone.

Some need an earth rod, some dont. Looks €œtidier€� without but that might
not be important to you. Some cars (Zoe in particular) seem very fussy
about earth.

Worth checking also if there are any discounts associated with your vehicle
make. Lots of manufactures have links to various chargers with some quite
good discounts.

Also, do you have solar panels? Some smart chargers allow charging from
your panels.

Worth joining an owners Facebook group for more advice.

Tim

--
Please don't feed the trolls

On 26/11/2020 10:33, Tim+ wrote:
F news@nowhere wrote:
We may be in need of a 7kW EV charging point in the fairly near future.

Anyone got any advice on makes, installers (I assume it's not DiY to a
competent DiYer), what to avoid, what to ensure? It's all new to me.


We were recommended a Pod-point by our dealer, which we bought. Rather
regretting it now as its a €œdumb€� charger with no programming abilities
(although that can be circumvented). Rolec chargers seem prone to
electrical failures (but that may just be a reflection of the relatively
high numbers of them). It was discounted though and seems to work fine.
Ive ordered a €œsmart relay switch€� to allow me to control it from my
phone.

Some need an earth rod, some dont. Looks €œtidier€� without but that might
not be important to you. Some cars (Zoe in particular) seem very fussy
about earth.

Worth checking also if there are any discounts associated with your vehicle
make. Lots of manufactures have links to various chargers with some quite
good discounts.

Also, do you have solar panels? Some smart chargers allow charging from
your panels.

Worth joining an owners Facebook group for more advice.

Tim

Thanks. All noted and, yes, we have solar PV so summer motoring will be
free.

--
Frank

F wrote:

we have solar PV so summer motoring will be free.

until road-pricing per mile comes in ...

On 26/11/2020 13:16, F wrote:
On 26/11/2020 10:33, Tim+ wrote:
F news@nowhere wrote:
We may be in need of a 7kW EV charging point in the fairly near future.

Anyone got any advice onÂ* makes, installers (I assume it's not DiY to
a competent DiYer), what to avoid, what to ensure? It's all new to me.


We were recommended a Pod-point by our dealer, which we bought.Â* Rather
regretting it now as its a €œdumb€� charger with no programming abilities
(although that can be circumvented). Rolec chargers seem prone to
electrical failures (but that may just be a reflection of the relatively
high numbers of them).Â* It was discounted though and seems to work fine.
Ive ordered a €œsmart relay switch€� to allow me to control it from my
phone.

Some need an earth rod, some dont.Â* Looks €œtidier€� without but that
might
not be important to you.Â* Some cars (Zoe in particular) seem very fussy
about earth.

Worth checking also if there are any discounts associated with your
vehicle
make. Lots of manufactures have links to various chargers with some quite
good discounts.

Also, do you have solar panels? Some smart chargers allow charging from
your panels.

Worth joining an owners Facebook group for more advice.

Tim

Thanks. All noted and, yes, we have solar PV so summer motoring will be
free.


'Free' as in the FIT's appear on your neighbours bills though :-(

On 26/11/2020 16:40, Andrew wrote:
On 26/11/2020 13:16, F wrote:


Thanks. All noted and, yes, we have solar PV so summer motoring will be
free.


'Free' as in the FIT's appear on your neighbours bills though :-(

Our neighbours have Solar PV too. They made the same decision to invest
as we did. It was an open offer. :-)

We wouldn't need the FiT to pay for the car's consumption in the summer.
We have sufficient panels to keep it charged out of export then.

Don't bother replying: I killfile such as you.

--
Frank

On 26/11/2020 17:05, F wrote:
On 26/11/2020 16:40, Andrew wrote:
On 26/11/2020 13:16, F wrote:


Thanks. All noted and, yes, we have solar PV so summer motoring will
be free.


'Free' as in the FIT's appear on your neighbours bills though :-(

Our neighbours have Solar PV too. They made the same decision to invest
as we did. It was an open offer. :-)

ALL of your neighbours ?. Even the ones without south-facing roofs or
the ones that live in flats ?.

We wouldn't need the FiT to pay for the car's consumption in the summer.
We have sufficient panels to keep it charged out of export then.

Don't bother replying: I killfile such as you.

People who don't like being criticized generally have a problem.

In article , F
writes
On 26/11/2020 16:40, Andrew wrote:
On 26/11/2020 13:16, F wrote:


Thanks. All noted and, yes, we have solar PV so summer motoring will
be free.

'Free' as in the FIT's appear on your neighbours bills though :-(

Our neighbours have Solar PV too. They made the same decision to invest
as we did. It was an open offer. :-)


It's easy to make open offers when someone else is paying - like
pensioners who have to decide whether to heat or eat, and whether to die
of cold or starvation.
We wouldn't need the FiT to pay for the car's consumption in the
summer. We have sufficient panels to keep it charged out of export then.

Don't bother replying: I killfile such as you.


--
bert

On 26/11/2020 17:05, F wrote:
Don't bother replying: I killfile such as you.

Can't take it. The truth hurts.

Bill

F news@nowhere wrote:
On 26/11/2020 10:33, Tim+ wrote:
F news@nowhere wrote:
We may be in need of a 7kW EV charging point in the fairly near future.

Anyone got any advice on makes, installers (I assume it's not DiY to a
competent DiYer), what to avoid, what to ensure? It's all new to me.


We were recommended a Pod-point by our dealer, which we bought. Rather
regretting it now as its a €œdumb€� charger with no programming abilities
(although that can be circumvented). Rolec chargers seem prone to
electrical failures (but that may just be a reflection of the relatively
high numbers of them). It was discounted though and seems to work fine.
Ive ordered a €œsmart relay switch€� to allow me to control it from my
phone.

Some need an earth rod, some dont. Looks €œtidier€� without but that might
not be important to you. Some cars (Zoe in particular) seem very fussy
about earth.

Worth checking also if there are any discounts associated with your vehicle
make. Lots of manufactures have links to various chargers with some quite
good discounts.

Also, do you have solar panels? Some smart chargers allow charging from
your panels.

Worth joining an owners Facebook group for more advice.

Tim

Thanks. All noted and, yes, we have solar PV so summer motoring will be
free.


A few options from Octopus. The Ohme charging lead seems popular amongst
those with solar.

https://www.octopusev.com/charging

Tim

--
Please don't feed the trolls

Tim+ wrote:

The Ohme charging lead seems popular amongst those with solar.

Yo Dawg! We heard you like charging, so we plugged a charger into your
charger, so you can charge while you charge ...

On 26/11/2020 10:33, Tim+ wrote:
Also, do you have solar panels? Some smart chargers allow charging from
your panels.

Last saturdays BBC CLick was about EV cars. They mentioned the test
group of OVO customers who are using their EV cars to store power
during periods when it is ?windy and power is 'cheap' and then supplying
that power back to the grid during peak periods.

Not sure if it is cost effective to use a £30K+ EV car with a
?non-replaceable battery like this. Supply power to your own property
maybe. I thought that is what the Tesla storage system did anyway.

In article , Andrew
writes
On 26/11/2020 10:33, Tim+ wrote:
Also, do you have solar panels? Some smart chargers allow charging from
your panels.

Last saturdays BBC CLick was about EV cars. They mentioned the test
group of OVO customers who are using their EV cars to store power
during periods when it is ?windy and power is 'cheap' and then supplying
that power back to the grid during peak periods.

Not sure if it is cost effective to use a £30K+ EV car with a
?non-replaceable battery like this. Supply power to your own property
maybe. I thought that is what the Tesla storage system did anyway.
OVO claim their customers can charge their cars with 100% renewable
energy. I've asked them to explain just how that works but so far no
response.
--
bert

On Sat, 28 Nov 2020 11:41:56 +0000, bert wrote:

OVO claim their customers can charge their cars with 100% renewable
energy. I've asked them to explain just how that works but so far no
response.

Presumably because OVO only buy their power from the renewable
generators. Just like a lot of the other suppliers do and claim. I
find it hard to believe that claim of "100% renewable energy" is
acuatlly true on a day like today with 70% of demand coming from gas
and nuke.

I wonder if there is an advertisng standards case to answer?

--
Cheers
Dave.

On 28 Nov 2020 15:29:00 GMT, Tim Streater wrote:

OVO claim their customers can charge their cars with 100%
renewable
energy. I've asked them to explain just how that works but so
far no
response.

Presumably because OVO only buy their power from the renewable
generators. Just like a lot of the other suppliers do and claim. I
find it hard to believe that claim of "100% renewable energy" is
acuatlly true on a day like today with 70% of demand coming from
gas
and nuke.

I wonder if there is an advertisng standards case to answer?

Well one electron on the grid is much the same as another so it's all
******** anyway.

This is true. But the claim is "100% renewable energy". If more
renewable energy has been sold than there is actually available on
the grid at any given time (and your lights don't go out) then the
claim of "100% renewable energy" is false and misleading.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On 25/11/2020 23:33, F wrote:
We may be in need of a 7kW EV charging point in the fairly near future.

Anyone got any advice on* makes, installers (I assume it's not DiY to a
competent DiYer), what to avoid, what to ensure? It's all new to me.

About 4 years ago I looked at a DIY solution but the then subsidy
persuaded me to get someone to instal a Rolec, which I took with me and
reinstalled when I moved house. I modified it to include an MCB, relay
and 13A socket (so the security switch could control the 13A socket as
well as the charging cable) but I've never used the security switch so
the relay was a waste.
The Rolec has been fine. I think they appear on feeBay from time to time
so, if the subsidy has gone or been reduced, that might be a DIY route
(don't forget TT earthing).
Recently I've added a cheap electricity meter in series with the charger
so I can work out the real cost per mile of running a hybrid, but it's
too early to have answer.

On 26/11/2020 10:35, wrote:
On 25/11/2020 23:33, F wrote:
We may be in need of a 7kW EV charging point in the fairly near future.

Anyone got any advice on* makes, installers (I assume it's not DiY to a
competent DiYer), what to avoid, what to ensure? It's all new to me.

About 4 years ago I looked at a DIY solution but the then subsidy
persuaded me to get someone to instal a Rolec, which I took with me and
reinstalled when I moved house. I modified it to include an MCB, relay
and 13A socket (so the security switch could control the 13A socket as
well as the charging cable) but I've never used the security switch so
the relay was a waste.
The Rolec has been fine. I think they appear on feeBay from time to time
so, if the subsidy has gone or been reduced, that might be a DIY route
(don't forget TT earthing).
Recently I've added a cheap electricity meter in series with the charger
so I can work out the real cost per mile of running a hybrid, but it's
too early to have answer.

Thanks, I'll have a look at the Rolec.

--
Frank

On 26/11/2020 10:35, wrote:
About 4 years ago I looked at a DIY solution but the then subsidy
persuaded me to get someone to instal a Rolec, which I took with me and
reinstalled when I moved house.

Including all the cable and stuff related to the consumer unit, or
just the wall box ?.

Does the next owner get another grant to go through the same process ?.

To me, something like that is a 'fixture and fitting' that you should
not have taken, surely ?.

Andrew wrote:

something like that is a 'fixture and fitting' that you should
not have taken, surely ?

Depends whether you listed as something included or excluded on the TA10
form?

https://www.lawsociety.org.uk/topics/property/transaction-forms#ta10

On 26/11/2020 16:54, Andy Burns wrote:
Andrew wrote:

something like that is a 'fixture and fitting' that you should
not have taken, surely ?

Depends whether you listed as something included or excluded on the TA10
form?

https://www.lawsociety.org.uk/topics/property/transaction-forms#ta10


What sort of person would take their loft insulation with them !.

Although carpets are mentioned, what is stop people taking their
expensive (or cheap) engineered/laminate flooring ?. Not mentioned,
nor is any mention of dead pets (or even relatives) buried in the
grounds (legally).

On 26/11/2020 16:44, Andrew wrote:
On 26/11/2020 10:35, wrote:
About 4 years ago I looked at a DIY solution but the then subsidy
persuaded me to get someone to instal a Rolec, which I took with me
and reinstalled when I moved house.

Including all the cable and stuff related to the consumer unit, or
just the wall box ?.
Yes; charge point, cable and MCB.

Does the next owner get another grant to go through the same process ?.
Assuming things haven't changed ... the grant is specific to the person
(and you need to have ordered the car).

To me, something like that is a 'fixture and fitting' that you should
not have taken, surely ?.
I offered to sell it to the purchaser but they didn't want it and I did.