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I'm about to add a security camera to the back of the house which will
mean a fourth Ethernet cable running parallel to three others. Is there
any kind of trunking/conduit/whatever that I can fix to the (brick) wall
to take the cables and tidy things up? It would need to be around 15m
long and accept internal and external corners.

--
Frank

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On 09/11/2020 20:34, F wrote:
I'm about to add a security camera to the back of the house which will
mean a fourth Ethernet cable running parallel to three others. Is there
any kind of trunking/conduit/whatever that I can fix to the (brick) wall
to take the cables and tidy things up? It would need to be around 15m
long and accept internal and external corners.

Er, conduit? Screwfix, Toolstation, etc. For that sort of length, it
will be neater to use the "proper" stuff.

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On 09/11/2020 20:57, newshound wrote:
On 09/11/2020 20:34, F wrote:
I'm about to add a security camera to the back of the house which will
mean a fourth Ethernet cable running parallel to three others. Is there
any kind of trunking/conduit/whatever that I can fix to the (brick) wall
to take the cables and tidy things up? It would need to be around 15m
long and accept internal and external corners.

Er, conduit? Screwfix, Toolstation, etc. For that sort of length, it
will be neater to use the "proper" stuff.

I had seen conduit but wondered if there was any sort of specialised
product.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'proper' stuff.

Trying to further my education here.

--
Frank

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On Monday, 9 November 2020 at 21:19:00 UTC, F wrote:
On 09/11/2020 20:57, newshound wrote:
On 09/11/2020 20:34, F wrote:
I'm about to add a security camera to the back of the house which will
mean a fourth Ethernet cable running parallel to three others. Is there
any kind of trunking/conduit/whatever that I can fix to the (brick) wall
to take the cables and tidy things up? It would need to be around 15m
long and accept internal and external corners.

Er, conduit? Screwfix, Toolstation, etc. For that sort of length, it
will be neater to use the "proper" stuff.

I had seen conduit but wondered if there was any sort of specialised
product.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'proper' stuff.

Trying to further my education here.

--
Frank
Most plastic trunking tends to be white which if you have a white rendered wall would be quite unobtrusive but for any other type of wall I would use black PVC conduit, plenty of corner components to make neat internal or external corners. For 4 CAT 5e cables, 20mm diam conduit would be adequate.

Richard

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On 09/11/2020 21:18, F wrote:
On 09/11/2020 20:57, newshound wrote:
On 09/11/2020 20:34, F wrote:
I'm about to add a security camera to the back of the house which
will mean a fourth Ethernet cable running parallel to three others.
Is there any kind of trunking/conduit/whatever that I can fix to the
(brick) wall to take the cables and tidy things up? It would need to
be around 15m long and accept internal and external corners.

Er, conduit? Screwfix, Toolstation, etc. For that sort of length, it
will be neater to use the "proper" stuff.

I had seen conduit but wondered if there was any sort of specialised
product.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'proper' stuff.

Trying to further my education here.

If you want to enclose cables that are already installed, you will need
trunking rather than conduit since you probably don't want to disconnect
them so you can thread them through the conduit. Hence trunking with a
removable lid would be better.


--
Cheers,

John.

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In article ,
F news@nowhere wrote:
On 09/11/2020 20:57, newshound wrote:
On 09/11/2020 20:34, F wrote:
I'm about to add a security camera to the back of the house which will
mean a fourth Ethernet cable running parallel to three others. Is there
any kind of trunking/conduit/whatever that I can fix to the (brick) wall
to take the cables and tidy things up? It would need to be around 15m
long and accept internal and external corners.

Er, conduit? Screwfix, Toolstation, etc. For that sort of length, it
will be neater to use the "proper" stuff.

I had seen conduit but wondered if there was any sort of specialised
product.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'proper' stuff.

Trying to further my education here.

Square section plastic trunking that has a clip on lid? Come with various
types of corners too.

--
*If all is not lost, where the hell is it?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 20:57:38 +0000, newshound
wrote:

On 09/11/2020 20:34, F wrote:
I'm about to add a security camera to the back of the house which will
mean a fourth Ethernet cable running parallel to three others. Is there
any kind of trunking/conduit/whatever that I can fix to the (brick) wall
to take the cables and tidy things up? It would need to be around 15m
long and accept internal and external corners.

Er, conduit? Screwfix, Toolstation, etc. For that sort of length, it
will be neater to use the "proper" stuff.

I agree, especially if you are running the cables over any sort of
rough pebble-dashed surface.

As has been mentioned elsewhere, really only works if you are willing
/ able to re run any existing cables though the new conduit.

A mate has a mix of CCTV / lighting on the front of his house, some
clipped directly to the walls and some run in conduit and the conduit
makes the exposed cables look tacky and vulnerable.

There are some fairly new flats nearby where the (distributed) TV
cables are run round the outside of the buildings, just in a bundle
clipped to the outside wall. Did they not know they would need a
communal aerial feed when they built the places?

Personally, I would be running any such cables internally, especially
on the front, though the loft and down though risers ... (but then I
generally decide what goes here and she doesn't care about that sort
of thing g). Round the back if it wasn't possible to keep internal,
I'd go conduit.

Cheers, T i m

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On 10/11/2020 00:49, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:


Square section plastic trunking that has a clip on lid? Come with various
types of corners too.


Doesn't usually last all that long outdoors. And looks amateurish.

Bill

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On 10/11/2020 01:16, T i m wrote:
There are some fairly new flats nearby where the (distributed) TV
cables are run round the outside of the buildings, just in a bundle
clipped to the outside wall. Did they not know they would need a
communal aerial feed when they built the places?

It's because they didn't allow for Sky+. Obsolete now anyway.

Bill

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williamwright wrote:
On 10/11/2020 00:49, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:


Square section plastic trunking that has a clip on lid? Come with various
types of corners too.


Doesn't usually last all that long outdoors. And looks amateurish.

Well I have some I installed at least 15 years ago and probably nearer
20 years ago that's still fine.

It depends where you put it as regards 'amateurish' I think, if it's
tucked neatly into a corner or under an overhang then it's fine IMHO.

--
Chris Green
·

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On Tuesday, 10 November 2020 01:16:07 UTC, T i m wrote:
There are some fairly new flats nearby where the (distributed) TV
cables are run round the outside of the buildings, just in a bundle
clipped to the outside wall. Did they not know they would need a
communal aerial feed when they built the places?

Yes, but they probably wired it in "low-loss" string.

Owain

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On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 02:40:58 +0000, williamwright
wrote:

On 10/11/2020 01:16, T i m wrote:
There are some fairly new flats nearby where the (distributed) TV
cables are run round the outside of the buildings, just in a bundle
clipped to the outside wall. Did they not know they would need a
communal aerial feed when they built the places?

It's because they didn't allow for Sky+.

Oh? I've never had any Sky anything (well, a mate gave me a new/unused
Sky box and I took the 500GB HDD out of it before recycling the rest),
so why does that need that couldn't have been catered for via the std
communal cabling system ... and what new build wouldn't have built in
ducting for such things, allowing for any retro-fit to any flat from
the communal comms cupboard? [1]

Obsolete now anyway.

Cool ... so I can go and prune the cable off as it annoys me. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[1] We installed a few racks worth of datacomms kit in a central
datacentre and they were running cables out to satellite buildings
that closely surrounded it. To cater for all the data cables they
built (when building the entire site from scratch) 4 x 6" diameter
earthenware pipes between hub and satellite buildings.

The head count increased as the project was completed and realising
that it was going to be a lot of work and possibly not have the
physical capacity for all these new links, they went over to fiber and
so only used one of the 4 ducts. They then soon found the fiber was
being bitten though by rats as it was a lovely underground system for
them so they had to make plugs up to block all the pipes and just
leaving a small gap for the fibre cable to sneak though. ;-)

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On 09/11/2020 21:18, F wrote:
On 09/11/2020 20:57, newshound wrote:
On 09/11/2020 20:34, F wrote:
I'm about to add a security camera to the back of the house which
will mean a fourth Ethernet cable running parallel to three others.
Is there any kind of trunking/conduit/whatever that I can fix to the
(brick) wall to take the cables and tidy things up? It would need to
be around 15m long and accept internal and external corners.

Er, conduit? Screwfix, Toolstation, etc. For that sort of length, it
will be neater to use the "proper" stuff.

I had seen conduit but wondered if there was any sort of specialised
product.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'proper' stuff.

Trying to further my education here.

Sorry, as others have already said I thought you might have seen and
been thinking of the white rectangular trunking with clip-on lids that
you find in sheds and hardware shops. It's meant for indoor use so is
not very well UV stabilised. Round conduit is available in metal or
plastic (also in corrugated plastic which can be handy if you have an
awkward bit of geometry) but the plastic should be OK outside. There are
various corner bits and "junction boxes", some with removable lids to
make threading easier. I havn't checked what range of stuff is available
from SF or TS.

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On 10/11/2020 08:39, wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 November 2020 01:16:07 UTC, T i m wrote:
There are some fairly new flats nearby where the (distributed) TV
cables are run round the outside of the buildings, just in a bundle
clipped to the outside wall. Did they not know they would need a
communal aerial feed when they built the places?

Yes, but they probably wired it in "low-loss" string.

Owain

We always used to call it "high loss" when I was working in a research
lab, because the stocks kept disappearing.

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In article ,
williamwright wrote:
On 10/11/2020 00:49, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:


Square section plastic trunking that has a clip on lid? Come with various
types of corners too.


Doesn't usually last all that long outdoors. And looks amateurish.

It has lasted pretty well here. Used it on my roof terrace for the aerial
cables. And painted it to be a closer match to the brickwork.

Just what would you use instead?

--
*Also too, never, ever use repetitive redundancies *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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In article ,
newshound wrote:
On 09/11/2020 21:18, F wrote:
On 09/11/2020 20:57, newshound wrote:
On 09/11/2020 20:34, F wrote:
I'm about to add a security camera to the back of the house which
will mean a fourth Ethernet cable running parallel to three others.
Is there any kind of trunking/conduit/whatever that I can fix to the
(brick) wall to take the cables and tidy things up? It would need to
be around 15m long and accept internal and external corners.

Er, conduit? Screwfix, Toolstation, etc. For that sort of length, it
will be neater to use the "proper" stuff.

I had seen conduit but wondered if there was any sort of specialised
product.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'proper' stuff.

Trying to further my education here.

Sorry, as others have already said I thought you might have seen and
been thinking of the white rectangular trunking with clip-on lids that
you find in sheds and hardware shops. It's meant for indoor use so is
not very well UV stabilised. Round conduit is available in metal or
plastic (also in corrugated plastic which can be handy if you have an
awkward bit of geometry) but the plastic should be OK outside. There are
various corner bits and "junction boxes", some with removable lids to
make threading easier. I havn't checked what range of stuff is available
from SF or TS.

there's always galvanised steel trunking.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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On 10/11/2020 11:35, charles wrote:
In article ,
newshound wrote:
On 09/11/2020 21:18, F wrote:
On 09/11/2020 20:57, newshound wrote:
On 09/11/2020 20:34, F wrote:
I'm about to add a security camera to the back of the house which
will mean a fourth Ethernet cable running parallel to three others.
Is there any kind of trunking/conduit/whatever that I can fix to the
(brick) wall to take the cables and tidy things up? It would need to
be around 15m long and accept internal and external corners.

Er, conduit? Screwfix, Toolstation, etc. For that sort of length, it
will be neater to use the "proper" stuff.

I had seen conduit but wondered if there was any sort of specialised
product.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'proper' stuff.

Trying to further my education here.

Sorry, as others have already said I thought you might have seen and
been thinking of the white rectangular trunking with clip-on lids that
you find in sheds and hardware shops. It's meant for indoor use so is
not very well UV stabilised. Round conduit is available in metal or
plastic (also in corrugated plastic which can be handy if you have an
awkward bit of geometry) but the plastic should be OK outside. There are
various corner bits and "junction boxes", some with removable lids to
make threading easier. I havn't checked what range of stuff is available
from SF or TS.

there's always galvanised steel trunking.

Overkill for this application. The "ordinary" wall-mount stuff is
normally only used inside since the cover is not sealed. Much more
expensive than round plastic conduit.

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In article , newshound
wrote:
On 10/11/2020 11:35, charles wrote:
In article ,
newshound wrote:
On 09/11/2020 21:18, F wrote:
On 09/11/2020 20:57, newshound wrote:
On 09/11/2020 20:34, F wrote:
I'm about to add a security camera to the back of the house which
will mean a fourth Ethernet cable running parallel to three others.
Is there any kind of trunking/conduit/whatever that I can fix to
the (brick) wall to take the cables and tidy things up? It would
need to be around 15m long and accept internal and external corners.

Er, conduit? Screwfix, Toolstation, etc. For that sort of length, it
will be neater to use the "proper" stuff.

I had seen conduit but wondered if there was any sort of specialised
product.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'proper' stuff.

Trying to further my education here.

Sorry, as others have already said I thought you might have seen and
been thinking of the white rectangular trunking with clip-on lids that
you find in sheds and hardware shops. It's meant for indoor use so is
not very well UV stabilised. Round conduit is available in metal or
plastic (also in corrugated plastic which can be handy if you have an
awkward bit of geometry) but the plastic should be OK outside. There
are various corner bits and "junction boxes", some with removable lids
to make threading easier. I havn't checked what range of stuff is
available from SF or TS.

there's always galvanised steel trunking.

Overkill for this application. The "ordinary" wall-mount stuff is
normally only used inside since the cover is not sealed. Much more
expensive than round plastic conduit.

You can slide trunking under existing cables, with conduit you need to
start again.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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On 10/11/2020 10:56, newshound wrote:


Sorry, as others have already said I thought you might have seen and
been thinking of the white rectangular trunking with clip-on lids that
you find in sheds and hardware shops. It's meant for indoor use so is
not very well UV stabilised.

There are several sources of UV-stabilised trunking. For example:
https://www.builderdepot.co.uk/mini-trunking-self-adhesive-white-16mm-x-40mm-x-3m
http://www.cablecafe.co.uk/cable-management/trunking-systems/pvc-mini-trunking/cabledec-plus-mini-trunking-38x16-3-metres

I've used white PVC trunking outside (south and west facing) and haven't
found it to degrade over 7 years.

--

Jeff

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In article ,
newshound wrote:
Overkill for this application. The "ordinary" wall-mount stuff is
normally only used inside since the cover is not sealed. Much more
expensive than round plastic conduit.

But round trunking required the wires to be disconnected and fished
through?

--
*A bartender is just a pharmacist with a limited inventory *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 12:51:48 +0000, Jeff Layman wrote:

On 10/11/2020 10:56, newshound wrote:


Sorry, as others have already said I thought you might have seen and
been thinking of the white rectangular trunking with clip-on lids that
you find in sheds and hardware shops. It's meant for indoor use so is
not very well UV stabilised.

There are several sources of UV-stabilised trunking. For example:
https://www.builderdepot.co.uk/mini-trunking-self-adhesive-white-16mm-x-40mm-x-3m
http://www.cablecafe.co.uk/cable-management/trunking-systems/pvc-mini-trunking/cabledec-plus-mini-trunking-38x16-3-metres

I've used white PVC trunking outside (south and west facing) and haven't
found it to degrade over 7 years.

Suitable size of D-Line then paint it.
https://www.screwfix.com/search?sear...gory=cat830108
If the open side is downwards it should be OK even in driving rain. Easy to
slide under cabeles (more so than square section). I wouldn't trust the
adhesive outside but a couple of screws...
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

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"T i m" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 02:40:58 +0000, williamwright
wrote:

On 10/11/2020 01:16, T i m wrote:
There are some fairly new flats nearby where the (distributed) TV
cables are run round the outside of the buildings, just in a bundle
clipped to the outside wall. Did they not know they would need a
communal aerial feed when they built the places?

It's because they didn't allow for Sky+.

Oh? I've never had any Sky anything (well, a mate gave me a new/unused
Sky box and I took the 500GB HDD out of it before recycling the rest),
so why does that need that couldn't have been catered for via the std
communal cabling system

because people want both a TV Aerial Connection and a Sky connection

And Sky+ requires 2 cables not 1


... and what new build wouldn't have built in
ducting for such things, allowing for any retro-fit to any flat from
the communal comms cupboard? [1]

every new build I have lived in.

there may be trucking for part of the route, but a large percentage of it is
plastered behind a wall - people usually don't want their TV in a hallway

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On Tuesday, 10 November 2020 at 14:21:12 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
newshound wrote:
Overkill for this application. The "ordinary" wall-mount stuff is
normally only used inside since the cover is not sealed. Much more
expensive than round plastic conduit.
But round trunking required the wires to be disconnected and fished
through?

--
*A bartender is just a pharmacist with a limited inventory *
Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
No need to disconnect the Ethernet cable. A shrouded RJ45 plug will easily pass through 20mm trunking with room to spare. As the OP needs to pass 4 cables all he needs to do is tape the cables so that the plugs are one behind the other and they should pull through easily.

Richard

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On 09/11/2020 22:06, Tricky Dicky wrote:
On Monday, 9 November 2020 at 21:19:00 UTC, F wrote:
On 09/11/2020 20:57, newshound wrote:
On 09/11/2020 20:34, F wrote:
I'm about to add a security camera to the back of the house which will
mean a fourth Ethernet cable running parallel to three others. Is there
any kind of trunking/conduit/whatever that I can fix to the (brick) wall
to take the cables and tidy things up? It would need to be around 15m
long and accept internal and external corners.

Er, conduit? Screwfix, Toolstation, etc. For that sort of length, it
will be neater to use the "proper" stuff.

I had seen conduit but wondered if there was any sort of specialised
product.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'proper' stuff.

Trying to further my education here.

--
Frank
Most plastic trunking tends to be white which if you have a white rendered wall would be quite unobtrusive but for any other type of wall I would use black PVC conduit, plenty of corner components to make neat internal or external corners. For 4 CAT 5e cables, 20mm diam conduit would be adequate.

Brown and red trunking is available.


--
Adam

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In article ,
Tricky Dicky wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 November 2020 at 14:21:12 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
newshound wrote:
Overkill for this application. The "ordinary" wall-mount stuff is
normally only used inside since the cover is not sealed. Much more
expensive than round plastic conduit.
But round trunking required the wires to be disconnected and fished
through?

--
*A bartender is just a pharmacist with a limited inventory *
Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

No need to disconnect the Ethernet cable. A shrouded RJ45 plug will
easily pass through 20mm trunking with room to spare. As the OP needs
to pass 4 cables all he needs to do is tape the cables so that the plugs
are one behind the other and they should pull through easily.

That still assumes it's still in the installation process. Beauty of
trunking is it can be fitted afterwards without disconnecting anything.

And I really don't think trunking looks anymore cheap and nasty than
plastic conduit. ;-)

--
*Corduroy pillows are making headlines.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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On 10/11/2020 14:19, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
newshound wrote:
Overkill for this application. The "ordinary" wall-mount stuff is
normally only used inside since the cover is not sealed. Much more
expensive than round plastic conduit.

But round trunking required the wires to be disconnected and fished
through?

The split option on this?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Quality-P...t/362724035426

--
Frank

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On 10/11/2020 08:32, Chris Green wrote:
It depends where you put it as regards 'amateurish' I think, if it's
tucked neatly into a corner or under an overhang then it's fine IMHO.

Yes I agree. if you can't see it it don't look too bad.

Bill

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On 10/11/2020 10:56, newshound wrote:
Sorry, as others have already said I thought you might have seen and
been thinking of the white rectangular trunking with clip-on lids that
you find in sheds and hardware shops. It's meant for indoor use so is
not very well UV stabilised.

Yes it's no good outdoors.

Bill

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On 10/11/2020 17:32, Tricky Dicky wrote:
No need to disconnect the Ethernet cable. A shrouded RJ45 plug will easily pass through 20mm trunking with room to spare. As the OP needs to pass 4 cables all he needs to do is tape the cables so that the plugs are one behind the other and they should pull through easily.

Anyway, use 25mm. Why struggle?

Bill

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On 10/11/2020 18:37, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
And I really don't think trunking looks anymore cheap and nasty than
plastic conduit.

It just looks amateurish and it is flimsy, and the sun gets it.

Bill

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On 10/11/2020 09:35, T i m wrote:
so why does that need that couldn't have been catered for via the std
communal cabling system ... and what new build wouldn't have built in
ducting for such things, allowing for any retro-fit to any flat from
the communal comms cupboard? [1]

Sky+ needed two feeds from the multiswitch to each wallplate.
They rarely put ducting or indeed any future-proofing in any domestic
new-build. After Sky+ came out a lot of builders wouldn't even have two
feeds put in, and this led to all sorts of unhappiness. Google 'stackers
+ satellite"

Bill

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On 10/11/2020 15:26, tim... wrote:
because people want both a TV Aerial Connection and a Sky connection

One coax carries VHF, UHF, and SAT IF.

Bill

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On 10/11/2020 08:39, wrote:

Yes, but they probably wired it in "low-loss" string.

Or CCTV cable. Or any vaguely co-axial-like cable that was cheap.

Bill

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On Tuesday, 10 November 2020 20:09:11 UTC, williamwright wrote:
because people want both a TV Aerial Connection and a Sky connection
One coax carries VHF, UHF, and SAT IF.

But not Sky Q and anything else.

Owain

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On Tuesday, 10 November 2020 20:10:09 UTC, williamwright wrote:
Yes, but they probably wired it in "low-loss" string.
Or CCTV cable. Or any vaguely co-axial-like cable that was cheap.

As long as it's brown. Everyone knows aerial cable is brown.

Owain

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In article ,
williamwright wrote:
On 10/11/2020 18:37, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
And I really don't think trunking looks anymore cheap and nasty than
plastic conduit.

It just looks amateurish and it is flimsy, and the sun gets it.

Mine is on a south facing roof terrace and been there for some 15 years.
Perhaps you get more sun in your part of the world?

But if the sun goes for plastic trunking, it will do for plastic conduit
too.

--
*Reality? Is that where the pizza delivery guy comes from?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 20:08:18 +0000, williamwright wrote:

On 10/11/2020 09:35, T i m wrote:
so why does that need that couldn't have been catered for via the std
communal cabling system ... and what new build wouldn't have built in
ducting for such things, allowing for any retro-fit to any flat from
the communal comms cupboard? [1]

Sky+ needed two feeds from the multiswitch to each wallplate.
They rarely put ducting or indeed any future-proofing in any domestic
new-build. After Sky+ came out a lot of builders wouldn't even have two
feeds put in, and this led to all sorts of unhappiness. Google 'stackers
+ satellite"

Bill

New build these days is apparently up to 85% or so full fibre to the
premises. No need for Sky dishes then?

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/...te-august-2020

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On 10/11/2020 19:58, williamwright wrote:
On 10/11/2020 10:56, newshound wrote:
Sorry, as others have already said I thought you might have seen and
been thinking of the white rectangular trunking with clip-on lids that
you find in sheds and hardware shops. It's meant for indoor use so is
not very well UV stabilised.

Yes it's no good outdoors.

To be fair, with the UV stabilised stuff so far I have not had any
problem. I have a run of 38x25mm trunking that runs down the side of the
house[1] - on a south facing wall with little or no shade, and after 12
years is showing no signs of degradation.

[1] The anticipation was that I would insulate the outside of the house
and lose it under the cladding at some point, but so far I have not
mustered the enthusiasm to do the insulation!


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On Monday, 9 November 2020 at 22:10:11 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
On 09/11/2020 21:18, F wrote:
On 09/11/2020 20:57, newshound wrote:
On 09/11/2020 20:34, F wrote:
I'm about to add a security camera to the back of the house which
will mean a fourth Ethernet cable running parallel to three others.
Is there any kind of trunking/conduit/whatever that I can fix to the
(brick) wall to take the cables and tidy things up? It would need to
be around 15m long and accept internal and external corners.

Er, conduit? Screwfix, Toolstation, etc. For that sort of length, it
will be neater to use the "proper" stuff.

I had seen conduit but wondered if there was any sort of specialised
product.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'proper' stuff.

Trying to further my education here.
If you want to enclose cables that are already installed, you will need
trunking rather than conduit since you probably don't want to disconnect
them so you can thread them through the conduit. Hence trunking with a
removable lid would be better.


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Plastic trunking is available in various colours. Brown is readily available at reasonable cost via ebay or a variety of other sources.

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In article ,
John J wrote:
Plastic trunking is available in various colours. Brown is readily
available at reasonable cost via ebay or a variety of other sources.

PVC is very easy to paint with oil based stuff - no undercoat needed.

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