Cleaning grout off tiles.
Was grouting some new tiles, using the combined waterproof adhesive/grout,
and got called away before finishing off. The actual grouting is fine - but a lot of residue on the tile faces, now rock hard. Tiles are ceramic and matt finish. Any tips on the easiest way to remove the residue? -- *Be more or less specific * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Was grouting some new tiles, using the combined waterproof adhesive/grout, and got called away before finishing off. The actual grouting is fine - but a lot of residue on the tile faces, now rock hard. Tiles are ceramic and matt finish. Any tips on the easiest way to remove the residue? No-one? I can scrape it off with a chisel without damage to the tile. Was hoping someone knew a quicker way. -- *We have enough youth, how about a fountain of Smart? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
Dave Plowman wrote:
a lot of residue on the tile faces, now rock hard. No-one? cover in kitchen roll and keep misting it with a plant sprayer for a day or two? |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 17:02:30 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:
a lot of residue on the tile faces, now rock hard. Residue as in a thin film or ridges of set grout? For the former just use the shower and wipe down the tiles after every use it'll eventually go. Even the ridges become slighly less attached after "a while". cover in kitchen roll and keep misting it with a plant sprayer for a day or two? Naw, not with a cement based waterproof grout. Spray with a mild acid, citric or calgon or kettle descaler or WHY. Might be able to make a paste with citric spread on scrape off hopefully with the grout or just work it in/around with an old tooth brush. Any scraper needs to soft and not metalic. -- Cheers Dave. |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
On 28/10/2020 11:15, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Was grouting some new tiles, using the combined waterproof adhesive/grout, and got called away before finishing off. The actual grouting is fine - but a lot of residue on the tile faces, now rock hard. Tiles are ceramic and matt finish. Any tips on the easiest way to remove the residue? Remove and replace the tiles. Bill |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
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Dave Liquorice wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 17:02:30 +0000, Andy Burns wrote: a lot of residue on the tile faces, now rock hard. Residue as in a thin film or ridges of set grout? For the former just use the shower and wipe down the tiles after every use it'll eventually go. Even the ridges become slighly less attached after "a while". cover in kitchen roll and keep misting it with a plant sprayer for a day or two? Naw, not with a cement based waterproof grout. Spray with a mild acid, citric or calgon or kettle descaler or WHY. Might be able to make a paste with citric spread on scrape off hopefully with the grout or just work it in/around with an old tooth brush. Any scraper needs to soft and not metalic. I don't think it's a mortar based adhesive. Not the sort you'd use for tiling outdoors. More water resistant than waterproof. Fine for an occasional use shower room walls. -- *Indian Driver - Smoke signals only* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Was grouting some new tiles, using the combined waterproof adhesive/grout, and got called away before finishing off. The actual grouting is fine - but a lot of residue on the tile faces, now rock hard. Tiles are ceramic and matt finish. Any tips on the easiest way to remove the residue? No-one? I can scrape it off with a chisel without damage to the tile. Was hoping someone knew a quicker way. There is stuff called HG cement grout film remover 1L - "the grout remover for all types of tiles and flagstones" https://www.amazon.co.uk/HG-cement-g...3910865&sr=8-7 At £8.59 a litre. There's probably a PDF somewhere giving its precise chemical composition and whether it contains anything over and above the standard cheaper recommendations which are of acid of various types/strengths michael adams .... |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 18:26:50 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
I don't think it's a mortar based adhesive. Not the sort you'd use for tiling outdoors. More water resistant than waterproof. Fine for an occasional use shower room walls. The packaging will tell you. Or just keep it wet for an hour or two ordinary grout/adhesive will soften, waterproof won't even notice. Thin film may come off with a non-scratch scourer. -- Cheers Dave. |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
On 28/10/2020 18:58, michael adams wrote:
There's probably a PDF somewhere giving its precise chemical composition and whether it contains anything over and above the standard cheaper recommendations which are of acid of various types/strengths https://hg.eu/media/esnlovxn/0510100210006.pdf -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
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Dave Liquorice wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 18:26:50 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote: I don't think it's a mortar based adhesive. Not the sort you'd use for tiling outdoors. More water resistant than waterproof. Fine for an occasional use shower room walls. The packaging will tell you. Or just keep it wet for an hour or two ordinary grout/adhesive will soften, waterproof won't even notice. Thin film may come off with a non-scratch scourer. Likely so. Due to my hands getting a bit arthritic I was hoping their might be something that fitted a power tool. -- *I finally got my head together, now my body is falling apart. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
On 28/10/2020 16:38, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Was grouting some new tiles, using the combined waterproof adhesive/grout, and got called away before finishing off. The actual grouting is fine - but a lot of residue on the tile faces, now rock hard. Tiles are ceramic and matt finish. Any tips on the easiest way to remove the residue? No-one? I can scrape it off with a chisel without damage to the tile. Was hoping someone knew a quicker way. I find a box cutter about the right combination of flexible and blade width for scraping off bits of set grout. The waterproof stuff once fully cured is only going to come off by physical removal. If you have a steady hand a stanley knife with the blade in paper scraping configuration will give you an even wider scraper edge. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 13:57:16 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Thin film may come off with a non-scratch scourer. Likely so. Due to my hands getting a bit arthritic I was hoping their might be something that fitted a power tool. Polishing mop and polisher? -- Cheers Dave. |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
On Wednesday, 28 October 2020 11:16:07 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Was grouting some new tiles, using the combined waterproof adhesive/grout, and got called away before finishing off. The actual grouting is fine - but a lot of residue on the tile faces, now rock hard. Tiles are ceramic and matt finish. Any tips on the easiest way to remove the residue? acid |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
"alan_m" wrote in message ... On 28/10/2020 18:58, michael adams wrote: There's probably a PDF somewhere giving its precise chemical composition and whether it contains anything over and above the standard cheaper recommendations which are of acid of various types/strengths https://hg.eu/media/esnlovxn/0510100210006.pdf Well spotted. So its main constituents are Phosphoric acid - which is found in soft drinks and gives them their tangy flavour Oxalic acid which is found in rhubarb leaves and the green bits of potatoes ethoxylated isofridecanol which is found in everything from washing and cleaning products, to air care products, greases polishes and waxes. So that rather than fork out £8.59 for a litre of HG cement grout film remover https://www.amazon.co.uk/HG-cement-g...3910865&sr=8-7 just boil up some rhubarb leaves in a saucepan of supermarket lemonade and sling in a bit of washing powder and floor polish. michael adams .... |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
On 28/10/2020 23:23, alan_m wrote:
On 28/10/2020 18:58, michael adams wrote: There's probably a PDF somewhere giving its precise chemical composition and whether it contains anything over and above the standard cheaper recommendations which are of acid of various types/strengths https://hg.eu/media/esnlovxn/0510100210006.pdf The clue to the effectiveness may be in the word "film" and it may be effective on the haze that is left after a brief wipe-off rather than removing bulk material. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
On 29/10/2020 16:59, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 13:57:16 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Thin film may come off with a non-scratch scourer. Likely so. Due to my hands getting a bit arthritic I was hoping their might be something that fitted a power tool. Polishing mop and polisher? on a matt surfaced tile? -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 09:03:00 +0000, alan_m wrote:
Due to my hands getting a bit arthritic I was hoping their might be something that fitted a power tool. Polishing mop and polisher? on a matt surfaced tile? Didn't say anything about any polishing compound. B-) Also thinking that a polisher is going to far less agressive than a cloth wheel on a drill or angle grinder. -- Cheers Dave. |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
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wrote: On Wednesday, 28 October 2020 11:16:07 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Was grouting some new tiles, using the combined waterproof adhesive/grout, and got called away before finishing off. The actual grouting is fine - but a lot of residue on the tile faces, now rock hard. Tiles are ceramic and matt finish. Any tips on the easiest way to remove the residue? acid What would that do to the actual grouting which is fine? -- *When blondes have more fun, do they know it? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
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alan_m wrote: On 29/10/2020 16:59, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 13:57:16 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Thin film may come off with a non-scratch scourer. Likely so. Due to my hands getting a bit arthritic I was hoping their might be something that fitted a power tool. Polishing mop and polisher? on a matt surfaced tile? Those green plastic pot scourers seem to do it OK. Without scratching the surface. A wheel made of that to fit a power tool would be great. -- *WHOSE CRUEL IDEA WAS IT FOR THE WORD 'LISP' TO HAVE 'S' IN IT? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Those green plastic pot scourers seem to do it OK. Without scratching the surface. A wheel made of that to fit a power tool would be great. You can buy various grades of "scotch-brite" wheels/discs, e.g. https://amazon.co.uk/dp/B07GXNF6GY |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 10:50:15 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Those green plastic pot scourers seem to do it OK. Without scratching the surface. Green pot scourers (ie the scouring bit) are normally "scratch" and some can be quite agressive. The white ones are "non-scratch". Might not be quite so an issue on matt compared to a smooth or gloss surface. -- Cheers Dave. |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 11:12:49 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:
Those green plastic pot scourers seem to do it OK. Without scratching the surface. A wheel made of that to fit a power tool would be great. You can buy various grades of "scotch-brite" wheels/discs, e.g. https://amazon.co.uk/dp/B07GXNF6GY Ooo, they look interesting, thanks. Quite a selection of different types and grades to choose from as well. Wonder if they'd be better used with a random oribtal sander rather than drill? Must admit to being a bit cagey using a mains powered tool in combination with the required lubricating/debris removal water. -- Cheers Dave. |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
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Dave Liquorice wrote: On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 10:50:15 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Those green plastic pot scourers seem to do it OK. Without scratching the surface. Green pot scourers (ie the scouring bit) are normally "scratch" and some can be quite agressive. The white ones are "non-scratch". Might not be quite so an issue on matt compared to a smooth or gloss surface. I've got pots with glass lids. Never had a problem with any pot scourer scratching that? -- *I brake for no apparent reason. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
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Andy Burns wrote: Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Those green plastic pot scourers seem to do it OK. Without scratching the surface. A wheel made of that to fit a power tool would be great. You can buy various grades of "scotch-brite" wheels/discs, e.g. https://amazon.co.uk/dp/B07GXNF6GY That looks just the thing. Says it won't scratch glass, so presumably ok on tile faces? Assuming the matt finish on mine is as hard as glass? -- *A backward poet writes inverse.* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Andy Burns wrote: Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Those green plastic pot scourers seem to do it OK. Without scratching the surface. A wheel made of that to fit a power tool would be great. You can buy various grades of "scotch-brite" wheels/discs, e.g. https://amazon.co.uk/dp/B07GXNF6GY That looks just the thing. Says it won't scratch glass, so presumably ok on tile faces? Assuming the matt finish on mine is as hard as glass? Just to add, a review says they were great for removing grout residue - so I've ordered up a set. I've got plenty batteries for the cordless drill so not concerned about using some water with them. Ebay has plenty refills and cheap - but from China. I can see this being very useful for lots of other things if it does what it says on the tin. -- *A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
On 29/10/2020 16:49, Martin Brown wrote:
On 28/10/2020 16:38, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Â*Â*Â* Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Was grouting some new tiles, using the combined waterproof adhesive/grout, and got called away before finishing off. The actual grouting is fine - but a lot of residue on the tile faces, now rock hard. Tiles are ceramic and matt finish. Any tips on the easiest way to remove the residue? No-one? I can scrape it off with a chisel without damage to the tile. Was hoping someone knew a quicker way. I find a box cutter about the right combination of flexible and blade width for scraping off bits of set grout. The waterproof stuff once fully cured is only going to come off by physical removal. If you have a steady hand a stanley knife with the blade in paper scraping configuration will give you an even wider scraper edge. I have a plastic window scraper that takes a standard stanley blade. Useful for going over a window, wetted with water and some washing up liquid, after external painting, to remove any miscreant blobs and small splashes of paint. https://www.wilko.com/en-uk/wilko-gl...aper/p/0343652 |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
On 28/10/2020 18:23, williamwright wrote:
On 28/10/2020 11:15, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Was grouting some new tiles, using the combined waterproof adhesive/grout, and got called away before finishing off. The actual grouting is fine - but a lot of residue on the tile faces, now rock hard. Tiles are ceramic and matt finish. Any tips on the easiest way to remove the residue? Remove and replace the tiles. Bill With an angle grinder :-) |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
On 30/10/2020 10:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , wrote: On Wednesday, 28 October 2020 11:16:07 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Was grouting some new tiles, using the combined waterproof adhesive/grout, and got called away before finishing off. The actual grouting is fine - but a lot of residue on the tile faces, now rock hard. Tiles are ceramic and matt finish. Any tips on the easiest way to remove the residue? acid What would that do to the actual grouting which is fine? Harpic ?. Contains dilute HCL and is sticky enough to adhere to the tiles rather than running off too quickly. |
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"Andrew" wrote in message
... On 29/10/2020 16:49, Martin Brown wrote: On 28/10/2020 16:38, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Was grouting some new tiles, using the combined waterproof adhesive/grout, and got called away before finishing off. The actual grouting is fine - but a lot of residue on the tile faces, now rock hard. Tiles are ceramic and matt finish. Any tips on the easiest way to remove the residue? No-one? I can scrape it off with a chisel without damage to the tile. Was hoping someone knew a quicker way. I find a box cutter about the right combination of flexible and blade width for scraping off bits of set grout. The waterproof stuff once fully cured is only going to come off by physical removal. If you have a steady hand a stanley knife with the blade in paper scraping configuration will give you an even wider scraper edge. I have a plastic window scraper that takes a standard stanley blade. Useful for going over a window, wetted with water and some washing up liquid, after external painting, to remove any miscreant blobs and small splashes of paint. https://www.wilko.com/en-uk/wilko-gl...aper/p/0343652 +1 -- Regards wasbit |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
... Was grouting some new tiles, using the combined waterproof adhesive/grout, and got called away before finishing off. The actual grouting is fine - but a lot of residue on the tile faces, now rock hard. Tiles are ceramic and matt finish. Any tips on the easiest way to remove the residue? Earlier this week I re-enameled our 50 year old bath. I managed to get a line of this 2 part paint above the masking tape. A window scraper removed the paint without scratching the tiles. Note: The tile are not completely flat. It's like they had paint dripped on them & were then glazed over the top so that the whole surface undulates. -- Regards wasbit |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 13:17:52 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
I've got pots with glass lids. Never had a problem with any pot scourer scratching that? Tell that to a patch on a windscreen and the wood burning stove glass that had an ecounter with green (aka "scratch") pot scourers. B-) -- Cheers Dave. |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 13:51:09 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
You can buy various grades of "scotch-brite" wheels/discs, e.g. https://amazon.co.uk/dp/B07GXNF6GY That looks just the thing. Says it won't scratch glass, so presumably ok on tile faces? Assuming the matt finish on mine is as hard as glass? Just to add, a review says they were great for removing grout residue - so I've ordered up a set. Be very interested to know how you get on. I can think of a couple of possible uses as well. I've got plenty batteries for the cordless drill so not concerned about using some water with them. Only one and that appears to be on it's way out. Though a few decent dis/recharge cycles would probably do it a world of good. -- Cheers Dave. |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
On 31/10/2020 11:44, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 13:17:52 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote: I've got pots with glass lids. Never had a problem with any pot scourer scratching that? Tell that to a patch on a windscreen and the wood burning stove glass that had an encounter with green (aka "scratch") pot scourers. B-) Yup. The white one are OK. But t gree ones will degrade surfaces damned fast. Even glass. -- If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State. Joseph Goebbels |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
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Dave Liquorice wrote: On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 13:51:09 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote: You can buy various grades of "scotch-brite" wheels/discs, e.g. https://amazon.co.uk/dp/B07GXNF6GY That looks just the thing. Says it won't scratch glass, so presumably ok on tile faces? Assuming the matt finish on mine is as hard as glass? Just to add, a review says they were great for removing grout residue - so I've ordered up a set. Be very interested to know how you get on. I can think of a couple of possible uses as well. They arrived this morning. Very impressive service. I'll try it later today. I've got plenty batteries for the cordless drill so not concerned about using some water with them. Only one and that appears to be on it's way out. Though a few decent dis/recharge cycles would probably do it a world of good. I treated myself some time ago to a Lidl set of cordless hammer drill, jigsaw and circular saw that all use the same batteries. And got a couple of spares too. So I'm ok for a while. ;-) -- *If work is so terrific, how come they have to pay you to do it? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 13:18:06 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Just to add, a review says they were great for removing grout residue so I've ordered up a set. Be very interested to know how you get on. I can think of a couple of possible uses as well. They arrived this morning. Very impressive service. I'll try it later today. Had a chance to play? -- Cheers Dave. |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
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Dave Liquorice wrote: On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 13:18:06 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Just to add, a review says they were great for removing grout residue so I've ordered up a set. Be very interested to know how you get on. I can think of a couple of possible uses as well. They arrived this morning. Very impressive service. I'll try it later today. Had a chance to play? Not yet - I'm struggling with putting up the new ceiling. No room to get a tall enough step ladder in there - so having to work at full stretch. -- *What do you call a dinosaur with an extensive vocabulary? A thesaurus.* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Cleaning grout off tiles.
On 09/11/2020 16:22, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Not yet - I'm struggling with putting up the new ceiling. No room to get a tall enough step ladder in there - so having to work at full stretch. I've over boarded two ceilings this year and still have one to do. I invested in a plasterboard hoist after remembering the hassle I had when I was younger :( https://tinyurl.com/y5odd9cc My original ceilings were at 9 foot. The other cheap accessory that was a god-send was a plasterboard handle which made one man shifting of 2.4m x 1.2m plasterboard sheets a doddle (as long as they didn't have to go up-stairs which has a 90 degree bend). Luckily the only room upstairs that required a new ceiling was a small box room requiring only two plasterboard sheets. https://tinyurl.com/y2767vle Only one handle is required for a one man to lift a sheet of plasterboard - just get it in the middle of the longest edge. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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