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JohnP October 20th 20 03:31 PM

G9 Lampholder
 
I need to replace a burned lampholder in a ceiling fitting. I cannot for
the life of me work out how to remove it. I have looked at replacements for
clues.

Can anyone make a suggestion based on doing one? Photos he
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/joye1z5eo...qvrp0KhZa?dl=0

jkn October 20th 20 04:14 PM

G9 Lampholder
 
On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 3:31:10 PM UTC+1, JohnP wrote:
I need to replace a burned lampholder in a ceiling fitting. I cannot for
the life of me work out how to remove it. I have looked at replacements for
clues.

Can anyone make a suggestion based on doing one? Photos he
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/joye1z5eo...qvrp0KhZa?dl=0


I had something very similar, on a very similar lampholder, and ended up buying a whole new lamp,
to my annoyance. I think they go in with cables fitted and not intended to be removed. I didn't want to
mess with the risk of the cable coming out of the holder, or changing the cable and it shorting on the
metal, etc.

I'd be interested if you learn how to do it - my replacement is little better. I seem to go through halogens
quite quickly - not sure if that is due to the heat, vibration, poor holder, or what...

Jon N

Jim GM4DHJ ... October 20th 20 04:30 PM

G9 Lampholder
 
On 20/10/2020 15:31, JohnP wrote:
I need to replace a burned lampholder in a ceiling fitting. I cannot for
the life of me work out how to remove it. I have looked at replacements for
clues.

Can anyone make a suggestion based on doing one? Photos he
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/joye1z5eo...qvrp0KhZa?dl=0

OMG I would dump the whole thing....

JohnP October 20th 20 05:41 PM

G9 Lampholder
 
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in
:

On 20/10/2020 15:31, JohnP wrote:
I need to replace a burned lampholder in a ceiling fitting. I cannot
for the life of me work out how to remove it. I have looked at
replacements for clues.

Can anyone make a suggestion based on doing one? Photos he
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/joye1z5eo..._U3qvrp0KhZa?d
l=0

OMG I would dump the whole thing....


I may - but want something not too low - can deliver 200watts and spread
light outwards.

williamwright October 20th 20 09:43 PM

G9 Lampholder
 
On 20/10/2020 15:31, JohnP wrote:
I need to replace a burned lampholder in a ceiling fitting. I cannot for
the life of me work out how to remove it. I have looked at replacements for
clues.

Can anyone make a suggestion based on doing one? Photos he
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/joye1z5eo...qvrp0KhZa?dl=0


The whole thing is extremely vulgar. I should bin it.

Bill

Dave W[_2_] October 20th 20 11:19 PM

G9 Lampholder
 
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 14:31:05 GMT, JohnP wrote:


I need to replace a burned lampholder in a ceiling fitting. I cannot for
the life of me work out how to remove it. I have looked at replacements for
clues.

Can anyone make a suggestion based on doing one? Photos he
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/joye1z5eo...qvrp0KhZa?dl=0


Some of your photos look as if the ceramic socket is held down by two
projections on the outer screwed sleeve. If so, turn the socket
anticlockwise slightly to disengage the projections, then pull.

I found a manufacturer's photo of the pendant he
https://ef8e76c3b107e0f88bb3-56e22c8.../EL283-5SB.jpg
but it gives less detail than your photos. According to TinEye it was
first found in 2008. The lamp was sold by Endon Lighting but is no
longer available.

Another possibility is that the brass cups screw off the stems.

If you do get the socket out, you won't find an exact replacement, but
maybe it could be cleaned up to work again.
--
Dave W

alan_m October 21st 20 08:29 AM

G9 Lampholder
 
On 20/10/2020 15:31, JohnP wrote:
I need to replace a burned lampholder in a ceiling fitting. I cannot for
the life of me work out how to remove it. I have looked at replacements for
clues.

Can anyone make a suggestion based on doing one? Photos he
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/joye1z5eo...qvrp0KhZa?dl=0



Isn't that just an Edison screw to G9 converter in the lampholder?

https://tinyurl.com/y29xfj8j

It possible just screws out BUT possibly as with some spotlights it got
so hot that now almost impossible to actually move.

In the past with seized screw in spotlight bulbs I had to smash the
glass to gain access to the base to peal it out using a pair of pliers -
something you are unlikely to achieve with a fitting like that.

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alan_m October 21st 20 08:44 AM

G9 Lampholder
 
On 20/10/2020 17:41, JohnP wrote:

I may - but want something not too low - can deliver 200watts and spread
light outwards.



A stylish LED panel type light may give enough spread of light.
Probably 35 to 40W LED with give the equivalent to 200W tradition bulb.

With a LED panel type the fitting will be no more than 6 inches below
the ceiling and with possibly 180 to 240 degrees of beam angle.





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JohnP October 21st 20 09:33 AM

G9 Lampholder
 
Dave W wrote in
:

https://ef8e76c3b107e0f88bb3-56e22c8...2072.ssl.cf3.r
ackcdn.com/EL283-5SB.jpg


Thanks Dave

Radio Man October 21st 20 10:01 AM

G9 Lampholder
 
JohnP wrote:
I need to replace a burned lampholder in a ceiling fitting. I cannot for
the life of me work out how to remove it. I have looked at replacements for
clues.

Can anyone make a suggestion based on doing one? Photos he
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/joye1z5eo...qvrp0KhZa?dl=0


You can replace the bulb holders the two half moon cut outs visible in the
photos have screws at the end. The holders can be found on ebay.


JohnP October 21st 20 11:44 AM

G9 Lampholder
 
Radio Man wrote in
:

JohnP wrote:
I need to replace a burned lampholder in a ceiling fitting. I cannot
for the life of me work out how to remove it. I have looked at
replacements for clues.

Can anyone make a suggestion based on doing one? Photos he
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/joye1z5eo..._U3qvrp0KhZa?d
l=0


You can replace the bulb holders the two half moon cut outs visible in
the photos have screws at the end. The holders can be found on ebay.


Took it down - part of the holder removes leaving behind a couple of metal
contacts - one of which is arced away - cannot remove that part - I suspect
the wiring is holding it. The screwes boss for the shade doesn't budge -
The bin beckons.

The Natural Philosopher[_2_] October 21st 20 12:34 PM

G9 Lampholder
 
On 21/10/2020 11:44, JohnP wrote:
Radio Man wrote in
:

JohnP wrote:
I need to replace a burned lampholder in a ceiling fitting. I cannot
for the life of me work out how to remove it. I have looked at
replacements for clues.

Can anyone make a suggestion based on doing one? Photos he
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/joye1z5eo..._U3qvrp0KhZa?d
l=0


You can replace the bulb holders the two half moon cut outs visible in
the photos have screws at the end. The holders can be found on ebay.


Took it down - part of the holder removes leaving behind a couple of metal
contacts - one of which is arced away - cannot remove that part - I suspect
the wiring is holding it. The screwes boss for the shade doesn't budge -
The bin beckons.

Indeed. I binned a G9 fitting as well - out of date with LEDS


--
€œIt is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established
authorities are wrong.€

ۥ Voltaire, The Age of Louis XIV

Tim+[_5_] October 21st 20 12:58 PM

G9 Lampholder
 
JohnP wrote:
Radio Man wrote in
:

JohnP wrote:
I need to replace a burned lampholder in a ceiling fitting. I cannot
for the life of me work out how to remove it. I have looked at
replacements for clues.

Can anyone make a suggestion based on doing one? Photos he
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/joye1z5eo..._U3qvrp0KhZa?d
l=0


You can replace the bulb holders the two half moon cut outs visible in
the photos have screws at the end. The holders can be found on ebay.


Took it down - part of the holder removes leaving behind a couple of metal
contacts - one of which is arced away - cannot remove that part - I suspect
the wiring is holding it. The screwes boss for the shade doesn't budge -
The bin beckons.


I reckon anything that takes G9 bulbs should head for the bin. I have the
same ceiling fitting (in stainless steel) and have problems with both
halogen & LED bulbs.

Tim

--
Please don't feed the trolls

JohnP October 21st 20 02:31 PM

G9 Lampholder
 
Tim+ wrote in
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JohnP wrote:



Made some progress. After breaking the brittled screwed shade spigot, I
found it was threaded onto a stub (and possibly glued) I then realised it
was fairly standard to went to local Lamp specialist and bought a new
lampholder (and spare). Took opportunity to look at new fittings but didn't
see any suited to my humble abode.
Tried to screw one onto the threaded stub but it wouldn't engage.
Eventually it fractured into crumbs. Tried the spare - trillmed the thread
a bit and used some glue. It works but the shade thread length is a bit
incompatible, Screw on the shade and in falls off the inner end of the
thread..

Would like LED - but a Halogen is 400 lumens and I want dimmable.

JohnP October 21st 20 04:22 PM

G9 Lampholder
 
williamwright wrote in
:

On 20/10/2020 15:31, JohnP wrote:
I need to replace a burned lampholder in a ceiling fitting. I cannot
for the life of me work out how to remove it. I have looked at
replacements for clues.

Can anyone make a suggestion based on doing one? Photos he
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/joye1z5eo..._U3qvrp0KhZa?d
l=0


The whole thing is extremely vulgar. I should bin it.

Bill


Have you ever looked around a lighting shop? So many hang too low - or are
not going to give the output I need. I would reject the vast majority -
mine is at the "simpler" end of the range. Only one lighting point in the
lounge - not wanting to add another.

charles October 21st 20 04:59 PM

G9 Lampholder
 
In article ,
JohnP wrote:
williamwright wrote in
:


On 20/10/2020 15:31, JohnP wrote:
I need to replace a burned lampholder in a ceiling fitting. I cannot
for the life of me work out how to remove it. I have looked at
replacements for clues.

Can anyone make a suggestion based on doing one? Photos he
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/joye1z5eo..._U3qvrp0KhZa?d
l=0


The whole thing is extremely vulgar. I should bin it.

Bill


Have you ever looked around a lighting shop? So many hang too low - or
are not going to give the output I need. I would reject the vast
majority - mine is at the "simpler" end of the range. Only one lighting
point in the lounge - not wanting to add another.


I had to replace a couple of light fittings a month or so ago. Trying to
use LED lamps instead of incansdescent had been a disaster: the LEDs didn't
draw enough current to overcome the corrosion which had set in on the SES
holders. I found, on the internet, fittings which are only about 4" from
the ceiling and they have LED heads - lights.co.uk (but they are a German
firm) have a look at the website

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"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

JohnP October 22nd 20 10:49 AM

G9 Lampholder
 
charles wrote in
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lights.co.uk


Good site - I came across it yesterday.


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