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On 20/10/2020 10:00, Roger Mills wrote:
On 20/10/2020 09:28, nightjar wrote: On 20/10/2020 08:44, Radio Man wrote: There is justice in the world the EU are planning to ban the veg chompers from misleading people by calling meat free products like vegan burgers as burgers. The vegans are squealing like stuck pigs. It is under discussion, but there is no clear majority either for or against the move. Doesn't the fact that they're even considering it make you glad that we don't need to tolerate this nonsense any more? You don't think our government is capable of producing nonsense of its own? -- Colin Bignell |
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On 20/10/2020 12:09, nightjar wrote:
On 20/10/2020 10:00, Roger Mills wrote: On 20/10/2020 09:28, nightjar wrote: On 20/10/2020 08:44, Radio Man wrote: There is justice in the world the EU are planning to ban the veg chompers from misleading people by calling meat free products like vegan burgers as burgers. The vegans are squealing like stuck pigs. It is under discussion, but there is no clear majority either for or against the move. Doesn't the fact that they're even considering it make you glad that we don't need to tolerate this nonsense any more? You don't think our government is capable of producing nonsense of its own? Of course - but we can vote them out - which is more than you can say for Eurocrats. -- Cheers, Roger |
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Tims Beloved EU and Vegans!
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Roger Mills wrote: You don't think our government is capable of producing nonsense of its own? Of course - but we can vote them out - which is more than you can say for Eurocrats. Can you vote out *our* civil servants? And they are the ones who draft legislation. -- *Did you ever notice when you blow in a dog's face he gets mad at you? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 17:01:38 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: In article , Roger Mills wrote: You don't think our government is capable of producing nonsense of its own? Of course - but we can vote them out - which is more than you can say for Eurocrats. Can you vote out *our* civil servants? And they are the ones who draft legislation. Of course we can't, so what we are actually talking about is the 5% of actual changes that it would result by voting for *anyone*. 'The people' determine what we do on a day to day basis. The government 'leak' an idea of what they have in mind and watch how we react, too much pushback and they don't bother with it, knowing it will be a fools errand to try to carry on. Well, that is dependant on who has the deepest pockets and is the most persuasive (often with their BS). Like HS2. The 'carrot' (although a fairly small one) to the British public is that you will get to your destination a few minutes earlier (and rightly few are excited by that). One of the sticks is all the habitat destruction it will cause, most of which few will know and so care about (or care about even if they did know, they don't 'get' all that). However, I understand it will allow more freight to be carried (over the old lines parallel to that route?) and that could be a good thing. Even if it turns out to be no major benefit to most people, it provides a distraction and creates a few jobs (for foreign workers of course). Cheers, T i m |
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On 20 Oct 2020 11:20:06 GMT, Tim Streater
wrote: snip Doesn't the fact that they're even considering it make you glad that we don't need to tolerate this nonsense any more? You don't think our government is capable of producing nonsense of its own? Of course, but then I refer you to my sig below. When I saw how the European Union was developing, it was very obvious what they had in mind was not democratic. Like the referendum scam you mean, were only 1/3rd of those allowed to vote then (so nowhere near 1/3rd of the population, then or now), voted to leave the EU versus the majority who didn't? Sounds more like 'mob rule' to me ... and how many PM's and other representatives of the people have resigned over it all? In Britain you vote for a government so the government has to listen to you, Bwhahaha ... oh the naivety! and if you don't like it you can change it. Or not .... bless. What sort of democracy is it where the government can only (just) stay in power by forming a coalition with ministers on a different island and have a PM that the electorate didn't actually vote for? A government that spends £.5M of our money (towards £1M) advertising the dying dairy industry, promoting something that's bad for your health (let alone never designed to be consumed by us and many are intolerant to). https://ibb.co/P9xLCM2 https://plantbasednews.org/culture/g...airy-industry/ Cheers, T i m |
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On 20/10/2020 13:06, T i m wrote:
Tim Streater wrote: When I saw how the European Union was developing, it was very obvious what they had in mind was not democratic. Like the referendum scam you mean, were only 1/3rd of those allowed to vote then (so nowhere near 1/3rd of the population, then or now), voted to leave the EU versus the majority who didn't? Sounds more like 'mob rule' to me ... and how many PM's and other representatives of the people have resigned over it all? You still haven't learned: a) How UK democracy works b) Why the EU isn't democratic c) The similarities between the EU and its parent, the USSR claptrap snipped -- Spike |
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Spike wrote: You still haven't learned: a) How UK democracy works With someone like Cummings running the UK? I take it you voted for him? b) Why the EU isn't democratic Very true, no house of lords consisting of clerics etc. c) The similarities between the EU and its parent, the USSR Now that does deserve to have 'claptrap snipped'. But thanks for confirming you know even less about the USSR than our democracy. If that is possible. -- *America is so advanced that even the chairs are electric. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 20/10/2020 17:01, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Spike wrote: You still haven't learned: a) How UK democracy works With someone like Cummings running the UK? I take it you voted for him? b) Why the EU isn't democratic Very true, no house of lords consisting of clerics etc. The people in the EU who wield the power are not elected. c) The similarities between the EU and its parent, the USSR Now that does deserve to have 'claptrap snipped'. But thanks for confirming you know even less about the USSR than our democracy. If that is possible. |
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On 20 Oct 2020 at 15:10:17 BST, "Spike" wrote:
On 20/10/2020 13:06, T i m wrote: Tim Streater wrote: When I saw how the European Union was developing, it was very obvious what they had in mind was not democratic. Like the referendum scam you mean, were only 1/3rd of those allowed to vote then (so nowhere near 1/3rd of the population, then or now), voted to leave the EU versus the majority who didn't? Sounds more like 'mob rule' to me ... and how many PM's and other representatives of the people have resigned over it all? You still haven't learned: a) How UK democracy works b) Why the EU isn't democratic c) The similarities between the EU and its parent, the USSR claptrap snipped Sorry, I think you missed snipping the last few lines of claptrap. -- Roger Hayter |
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On 20/10/2020 14:06:13, T i m wrote:
On 20 Oct 2020 11:20:06 GMT, Tim Streater wrote: snip Doesn't the fact that they're even considering it make you glad that we don't need to tolerate this nonsense any more? You don't think our government is capable of producing nonsense of its own? Of course, but then I refer you to my sig below. When I saw how the European Union was developing, it was very obvious what they had in mind was not democratic. Like the referendum scam you mean, There was no scan. Just a result a fanatic like you didn't like. were only 1/3rd of those allowed to vote then (so nowhere near 1/3rd of the population, then or now), voted to leave the EU versus the majority who didn't? Sounds more like 'mob rule' to me ... and how many PM's and other representatives of the people have resigned over it all? Mob rule? You mean a minority should specify what we eat? In Britain you vote for a government so the government has to listen to you, Bwhahaha ... oh the naivety! and if you don't like it you can change it. Or not .... bless. What sort of democracy is it where the government can only (just) stay in power by forming a coalition with ministers on a different island and have a PM that the electorate didn't actually vote for? Which PM was that? A government that spends £.5M of our money (towards £1M) advertising the dying dairy industry, promoting something that's bad for your health (let alone never designed to be consumed by us and many are intolerant to). Then campaign against the advertising. I might even support you. https://ibb.co/P9xLCM2 Thank you for agreeing my mother wasn't a cow. Should I feel grateful? |
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