You may recall from previous threads that in the process of renewing our kitchen and permanently wiring up the garage this has involved quite extensive rewiring of our electrical system, involving moving meters, replacing the CU, completely rewiring all the kitchen circuits and taking a supply over to the garage.

To make it all legal I have involved BC. When I applied for building control and paid my fee, I was told to get back to them when the kitchen first fix was completed for it to be inspected and was allowed to go ahead with the CU change.

Today the inspector came round, first thing he tells me he is a former brickie and knows very little about electrics. Looked at some of the wiring just asked me a couple of questions regarding some of the cable sizes. After a few minutes gives a nod of approval. I ask him does he want to inspect the garage which was the main reason for the CU replacement. No he says you look as if you know what you are doing so will leave it at that. He then gives me his card saying to get back in touch when everything is ready for testing and they will arrange an electrician to come and do the tests.

I wonder if anybody else has any experience of electric wiring inspection because it has left me completely astounded especially after getting my underpants in a twist to make sure everything was up to regs. As far as I know that all the electrician will do when he comes is simply to carry out tests and no further inspection will take place, unless somebody knows better.

Richard

On 12/08/2020 18:06, Tricky Dicky wrote:
You may recall from previous threads that in the process of renewing our kitchen and permanently wiring up the garage this has involved quite extensive rewiring of our electrical system, involving moving meters, replacing the CU, completely rewiring all the kitchen circuits and taking a supply over to the garage.

To make it all legal I have involved BC. When I applied for building control and paid my fee, I was told to get back to them when the kitchen first fix was completed for it to be inspected and was allowed to go ahead with the CU change.

Today the inspector came round, first thing he tells me he is a former brickie and knows very little about electrics. Looked at some of the wiring just asked me a couple of questions regarding some of the cable sizes. After a few minutes gives a nod of approval. I ask him does he want to inspect the garage which was the main reason for the CU replacement. No he says you look as if you know what you are doing so will leave it at that. He then gives me his card saying to get back in touch when everything is ready for testing and they will arrange an electrician to come and do the tests.

I wonder if anybody else has any experience of electric wiring inspection because it has left me completely astounded especially after getting my underpants in a twist to make sure everything was up to regs. As far as I know that all the electrician will do when he comes is simply to carry out tests and no further inspection will take place, unless somebody knows better.

Richard

everybody fears a visit from BC......I have had wummin' so relieved they
have grabbed and kissed me with relief....I have had blokes leave their
gorgeous daughters to conduct the visit hoping to distract me.....

On 12/08/2020 18:06, Tricky Dicky wrote:
You may recall from previous threads that in the process of renewing our kitchen and permanently wiring up the garage this has involved quite extensive rewiring of our electrical system, involving moving meters, replacing the CU, completely rewiring all the kitchen circuits and taking a supply over to the garage.

To make it all legal I have involved BC. When I applied for building control and paid my fee, I was told to get back to them when the kitchen first fix was completed for it to be inspected and was allowed to go ahead with the CU change.

Today the inspector came round, first thing he tells me he is a former brickie and knows very little about electrics. Looked at some of the wiring just asked me a couple of questions regarding some of the cable sizes. After a few minutes gives a nod of approval. I ask him does he want to inspect the garage which was the main reason for the CU replacement. No he says you look as if you know what you are doing so will leave it at that. He then gives me his card saying to get back in touch when everything is ready for testing and they will arrange an electrician to come and do the tests.

I wonder if anybody else has any experience of electric wiring inspection because it has left me completely astounded especially after getting my underpants in a twist to make sure everything was up to regs. As far as I know that all the electrician will do when he comes is simply to carry out tests and no further inspection will take place, unless somebody knows better.



It sounds about right.

What are you worrying about?


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To be honest I suspect at this time most people have beeter things to do
than worry about stuff that looks pretty good. I hope you recorded the
interchange in some way.
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You may recall from previous threads that in the process of renewing our
kitchen and permanently wiring up the garage this has involved quite
extensive rewiring of our electrical system, involving moving meters,
replacing the CU, completely rewiring all the kitchen circuits and taking a
supply over to the garage.

To make it all legal I have involved BC. When I applied for building control
and paid my fee, I was told to get back to them when the kitchen first fix
was completed for it to be inspected and was allowed to go ahead with the CU
change.

Today the inspector came round, first thing he tells me he is a former
brickie and knows very little about electrics. Looked at some of the wiring
just asked me a couple of questions regarding some of the cable sizes. After
a few minutes gives a nod of approval. I ask him does he want to inspect the
garage which was the main reason for the CU replacement. No he says you look
as if you know what you are doing so will leave it at that. He then gives me
his card saying to get back in touch when everything is ready for testing
and they will arrange an electrician to come and do the tests.

I wonder if anybody else has any experience of electric wiring inspection
because it has left me completely astounded especially after getting my
underpants in a twist to make sure everything was up to regs. As far as I
know that all the electrician will do when he comes is simply to carry out
tests and no further inspection will take place, unless somebody knows
better.

Richard

In article ,
Tricky Dicky wrote:
I wonder if anybody else has any experience of electric wiring
inspection because it has left me completely astounded especially after
getting my underpants in a twist to make sure everything was up to regs.
As far as I know that all the electrician will do when he comes is
simply to carry out tests and no further inspection will take place,
unless somebody knows better.


Sounds par for the course. You should have taken the advice here to ignore
the need for the paperwork as regards electrics - assuming you are
competent, and don't need someone to check your works.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 13/08/2020 14:07, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tricky Dicky wrote:
I wonder if anybody else has any experience of electric wiring
inspection because it has left me completely astounded especially after
getting my underpants in a twist to make sure everything was up to regs.
As far as I know that all the electrician will do when he comes is
simply to carry out tests and no further inspection will take place,
unless somebody knows better.


Sounds par for the course. You should have taken the advice here to ignore
the need for the paperwork as regards electrics - assuming you are
competent, and don't need someone to check your works.


The most annoying thing (for me) is that most of the dangerous work I
now see is from Part P installers.

Some of have done this sort of thing

https://www.tradeskills4u.co.uk/cour...staller-course

I am not picking on that firm (first one I found on line) but just
saying that is the sort of **** that is out there doing Part P work.

Although as it is you I am replying to I want you to look at the
pictures under the "AS A DOMESTIC ELECTRICIAN YOU CAN"

They need to fill that web page up.....

Look at the two options you have with lighting:-)



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Adam

ARW wrote:

On 13/08/2020 14:07, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tricky Dicky wrote:
I wonder if anybody else has any experience of electric wiring
inspection because it has left me completely astounded especially after
getting my underpants in a twist to make sure everything was up to regs.
As far as I know that all the electrician will do when he comes is
simply to carry out tests and no further inspection will take place,
unless somebody knows better.


Sounds par for the course. You should have taken the advice here to ignore
the need for the paperwork as regards electrics - assuming you are
competent, and don't need someone to check your works.


The most annoying thing (for me) is that most of the dangerous work I
now see is from Part P installers.

Some of have done this sort of thing

https://www.tradeskills4u.co.uk/cour...staller-course

I am not picking on that firm (first one I found on line) but just
saying that is the sort of **** that is out there doing Part P work.

Although as it is you I am replying to I want you to look at the
pictures under the "AS A DOMESTIC ELECTRICIAN YOU CAN"

They need to fill that web page up.....

Look at the two options you have with lighting:-)

But they do show you how to install CO2 detectors, you never know when
that will come in handy.



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We had an extension built by the builder from hell (and his alleged qualified sparky a couple of years back.

We had to get the BCO involved.

They came round a various intervals to look at foundations, etc, etc.

Then they said all they needed was the electrics certificate from the sparky and they would sign it off. The BCO said they only needed that because there had been a light with extractor installed in the wet room* (so no need to check how hed wired power or lighting in the extension (I SUSPECT) via a couple of screwed JBs which were then plasterboarded over. No need to check the power shower)

After much argy bargy I got a certificate and forwarded it to the BCO. Who rather than signing off the project said he would have to do an inspection..

At that visit he decided that we needed to install a cavity tray in the wall of the house!

*The light with extractor kept blowing bulbs because it had been installed badly. I had to replace it myself.
Am I a qualified sparky? A part P-er? No, but I can install electrics better than that twonk of a €œSparky€�.

Weve also had to replace the roof the builders roofers fitted, and re-do numerous other works.

Adam,

Im disappointed.

I thought the link was going to be to something stupid one of the Part P ers had done.

There is company round here that keeps posting
Pictures of there recent installations as advertising.

Including a CU (Or fuse box as they called it) They installed About 3 months ago which was FULL of MCBs (not an RCD or RCBO in sight).

I cant think of any situation where that would be compliant in 17th or 18th.

Sorry for not coming back earlier. The bottom line is having BC is all about securing the official bit of paper that says the wiring is up to spec so sometime in the future if/when the house goes up for sale it does not become cause for knocking the price down. As has been said whatever lack of diligence on the part of BC should not be my concern as long as the work gets certified. However, it does remain a concern, having spent a lot of time on here with the help of Adam and John and many others to get clued up on all the latest regulations not to mention other sources too. I am concerned that the installation might go through on a nod and a wink and yes it would be nice to get recognition for my diligence.

As Adam has said much of his work is putting right what other professionals have done. If we have regulations to protect consumers then these need to be met and it should not be a case of €œwhat we can get away with€�. I have already come across examples of that in the course of doing the wiring. It may be that any dangerous work is revealed by the testing but by the same token somethings will not be noted without visual inspection. I know some will say that apart from new builds the majority of houses will not meet current standards having been wired under previous amendments and yet remain perfectly safe as was the case of our last house which is the only full rewire I have done in the past. That was done under the 15th regs and passed by the local Electricity board and it was as safe as it was then when we left over 40yrs later.

Having had my rant I may have upset the Gods of DIY and may have my work condemned, with any luck if Adams service area extends to West Yorkshire it might be him doing the inspection at least then I can say you told me to do it that way : )

Richard

In article ,
Tricky Dicky wrote:
Sorry for not coming back earlier. The bottom line is having BC is all
about securing the official bit of paper that says the wiring is up to
spec so sometime in the future if/when the house goes up for sale it
does not become cause for knocking the price down.

How about all the other wiring in the house? Unless everything a new build.

Some will always try to find a reason to try and knock the price down.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 14/08/2020 10:05, Roger Hayter wrote:
ARW wrote:

On 13/08/2020 14:07, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tricky Dicky wrote:
I wonder if anybody else has any experience of electric wiring
inspection because it has left me completely astounded especially after
getting my underpants in a twist to make sure everything was up to regs.
As far as I know that all the electrician will do when he comes is
simply to carry out tests and no further inspection will take place,
unless somebody knows better.


Sounds par for the course. You should have taken the advice here to ignore
the need for the paperwork as regards electrics - assuming you are
competent, and don't need someone to check your works.


The most annoying thing (for me) is that most of the dangerous work I
now see is from Part P installers.

Some of have done this sort of thing

https://www.tradeskills4u.co.uk/cour...staller-course

I am not picking on that firm (first one I found on line) but just
saying that is the sort of **** that is out there doing Part P work.

Although as it is you I am replying to I want you to look at the
pictures under the "AS A DOMESTIC ELECTRICIAN YOU CAN"

They need to fill that web page up.....

Look at the two options you have with lighting:-)

But they do show you how to install CO2 detectors, you never know when
that will come in handy.





Aico did my installers course for smokes, heats and CO detectors.



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Adam

On 14/08/2020 10:58, Tricky Dicky wrote:

Having had my rant I may have upset the Gods of DIY and may have my work condemned, with any luck if Adams service area extends to West Yorkshire it might be him doing the inspection at least then I can say you told me to do it that way : )

It's less than a mile from my house to the Kirklees boundary....

No we do not work for Kirklees.


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ARW wrote:

On 14/08/2020 10:05, Roger Hayter wrote:
ARW wrote:

On 13/08/2020 14:07, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tricky Dicky wrote:
I wonder if anybody else has any experience of electric wiring
inspection because it has left me completely astounded especially after
getting my underpants in a twist to make sure everything was up to regs.
As far as I know that all the electrician will do when he comes is
simply to carry out tests and no further inspection will take place,
unless somebody knows better.


Sounds par for the course. You should have taken the advice here to ignore
the need for the paperwork as regards electrics - assuming you are
competent, and don't need someone to check your works.


The most annoying thing (for me) is that most of the dangerous work I
now see is from Part P installers.

Some of have done this sort of thing

https://www.tradeskills4u.co.uk/cour...staller-course

I am not picking on that firm (first one I found on line) but just
saying that is the sort of **** that is out there doing Part P work.

Although as it is you I am replying to I want you to look at the
pictures under the "AS A DOMESTIC ELECTRICIAN YOU CAN"

They need to fill that web page up.....

Look at the two options you have with lighting:-)

But they do show you how to install CO2 detectors, you never know when
that will come in handy.





Aico did my installers course for smokes, heats and CO detectors.

I doubt they called them CO2 detectors, though. Those are mainly used
in anaesthetic practice, AFAIK.

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Roger Hayter

On 14/08/2020 21:53, Roger Hayter wrote:
ARW wrote:

On 14/08/2020 10:05, Roger Hayter wrote:
ARW wrote:

On 13/08/2020 14:07, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tricky Dicky wrote:
I wonder if anybody else has any experience of electric wiring
inspection because it has left me completely astounded especially after
getting my underpants in a twist to make sure everything was up to regs.
As far as I know that all the electrician will do when he comes is
simply to carry out tests and no further inspection will take place,
unless somebody knows better.


Sounds par for the course. You should have taken the advice here to ignore
the need for the paperwork as regards electrics - assuming you are
competent, and don't need someone to check your works.


The most annoying thing (for me) is that most of the dangerous work I
now see is from Part P installers.

Some of have done this sort of thing

https://www.tradeskills4u.co.uk/cour...staller-course

I am not picking on that firm (first one I found on line) but just
saying that is the sort of **** that is out there doing Part P work.

Although as it is you I am replying to I want you to look at the
pictures under the "AS A DOMESTIC ELECTRICIAN YOU CAN"

They need to fill that web page up.....

Look at the two options you have with lighting:-)

But they do show you how to install CO2 detectors, you never know when
that will come in handy.





Aico did my installers course for smokes, heats and CO detectors.

I doubt they called them CO2 detectors, though. Those are mainly used
in anaesthetic practice, AFAIK.



**** me. I never spotted that one. Thanks for that, it took me a long
time to spot what you were hinting at:-)

I was waiting to see if Dave could spot the "lighting install and design
"and the "lighting design and installation" double take.



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Adam

On 14/08/2020 23:09, ARW wrote:
On 14/08/2020 21:53, Roger Hayter wrote:
ARW wrote:

On 14/08/2020 10:05, Roger Hayter wrote:
ARW wrote:

On 13/08/2020 14:07, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Tricky Dicky wrote:
I wonder if anybody else has any experience of electric wiring
inspection because it has left me completely astounded especially
after
getting my underpants in a twist to make sure everything was up
to regs.
As far as I know that all the electrician will do when he comes is
simply to carry out tests and no further inspection will take place,
unless somebody knows better.


Sounds par for the course. You should have taken the advice here
to ignore
the need for the paperwork as regards electrics - assuming you are
competent, and don't need someone to check your works.


The most annoying thing (for me) is that most of the dangerous work I
now see is from Part P installers.

Some of have done this sort of thing

https://www.tradeskills4u.co.uk/cour...staller-course

I am not picking on that firm (first one I found on line) but just
saying that is the sort of **** that is out there doing Part P work.

Although as it is you I am replying to I want you to look at the
pictures under the "AS A DOMESTIC ELECTRICIAN YOU CAN"

They need to fill that web page up.....

Look at the two options you have with lighting:-)

But they do show you how to install CO2 detectors, you never know when
that will come in handy.





Aico did my installers course for smokes, heats and CO detectors.

I doubt they called them CO2 detectors, though.Â* Those are mainly used
in anaesthetic practice, AFAIK.



**** me. I never spotted that one. Thanks for that, it took me a long
time to spot what you were hinting at:-)

I was waiting to see if Dave could spot the "lighting install and design
"and the "lighting design and installation" double take.




Should 'Free TASTER session' really say 'Free TESTER session' ? :-)