thescullster wrote:

Is the live-neutral connection important for this appliance?

No, plugging it either way round is fine ..

thescullster wrote:

Hi Guys
Bit of a basic question coming up.......

I am fitting a two pin cable joint in my trimmer cable.
There is no earth provision.
The problem I have is that, although the plug and socket joint has
live and neutral terminals in each "half", there is no key in the
joint to ensure the halves are connected in a certain
orientation.
In other words the live supply can easily be applied to the
neutral conductor attached to the trimmer.
Is the live-neutral connection important for this appliance?
If so I will have to junk the joint and dismantle the trimmer to
rewire it each time the cable is damaged.

Thanks

Phil

Assuming that your hedge trimmer is a double insulated device designed
to be used without an earth then it dioesn't matter which wire is
connected to neutral and which to live. All parts of the mains
circuitry are equally well protected from being touched. Except of
course by the blades.


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Hi Guys
Bit of a basic question coming up.......

I am fitting a two pin cable joint in my trimmer cable.
There is no earth provision.
The problem I have is that, although the plug and socket joint has
live and neutral terminals in each "half", there is no key in the
joint to ensure the halves are connected in a certain
orientation.
In other words the live supply can easily be applied to the
neutral conductor attached to the trimmer.
Is the live-neutral connection important for this appliance?
If so I will have to junk the joint and dismantle the trimmer to
rewire it each time the cable is damaged.

Thanks

Phil
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(Roger Hayter) Wrote in message:
thescullster wrote: Hi Guys Bit of a basic question coming up....... I am fitting a two pin cable joint in my trimmer cable. There is no earth provision. The problem I have is that, although the plug and socket joint has live and neutral terminals in each "half", there is no key in the joint to ensure the halves are connected in a certain orientation. In other words the live supply can easily be applied to the neutral conductor attached to the trimmer. Is the live-neutral connection important for this appliance? If so I will have to junk the joint and dismantle the trimmer to rewire it each time the cable is damaged. Thanks PhilAssuming that your hedge trimmer is a double insulated device designedto be used without an earth then it dioesn't matter which wire isconnected to neutral and which to live. All parts of the mainscircuitry are equally well protected from being touched. Except ofcourse by the blades.-- Roger Hayter

Thanks Andy/Roger

Can't beat making sure

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Hi Guys
Bit of a basic question coming up.......

I am fitting a two pin cable joint in my trimmer cable.
There is no earth provision.
The problem I have is that, although the plug and socket joint has
live and neutral terminals in each "half", there is no key in the
joint to ensure the halves are connected in a certain
orientation.
In other words the live supply can easily be applied to the
neutral conductor attached to the trimmer.
Is the live-neutral connection important for this appliance?
If so I will have to junk the joint and dismantle the trimmer to
rewire it each time the cable is damaged.

Thanks

Phil
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thescullster Wrote in message:
(Roger Hayter) Wrote in message:
thescullster wrote: Hi Guys Bit of a basic question coming up....... I am fitting a two pin cable joint in my trimmer cable. There is no earth provision. The problem I have is that, although the plug and socket joint has live and neutral terminals in each "half", there is no key in the joint to ensure the halves are connected in a certain orientation. In other words the live supply can easily be applied to the neutral conductor attached to the trimmer. Is the live-neutral connection important for this appliance? If so I will have to junk the joint and dismantle the trimmer to rewire it each time the cable is damaged. Thanks PhilAssuming that your hedge trimmer is a double insulated device designedto be used without an earth then it dioesn't matter which wire isconnected to neutral and which to live. All parts of the mainscircuitry are equally well protected from being touched. Except ofcourse by the blades.-- Roger Hayter

Thanks Andy/Roger

Can't beat making sure

Phil

If it did, you could mark the two parts of the joint to encourage
you to orient it correctly...
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thescullster wrote:
Hi Guys
Bit of a basic question coming up.......

I am fitting a two pin cable joint in my trimmer cable.
There is no earth provision.


Do make sure you fit the joint the right way around! Male pins on the
trimmer side, female on the supply side.

Tim


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In article ,
thescullster wrote:
Hi Guys
Bit of a basic question coming up.......

I am fitting a two pin cable joint in my trimmer cable.
There is no earth provision.
The problem I have is that, although the plug and socket joint has
live and neutral terminals in each "half", there is no key in the
joint to ensure the halves are connected in a certain
orientation.
In other words the live supply can easily be applied to the
neutral conductor attached to the trimmer.
Is the live-neutral connection important for this appliance?
If so I will have to junk the joint and dismantle the trimmer to
rewire it each time the cable is damaged.

you could simply fit a plug/socket thatb is polarised.

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On 15/07/2020 22:16, Roger Hayter wrote:
thescullster wrote:

Hi Guys
Bit of a basic question coming up.......

I am fitting a two pin cable joint in my trimmer cable.
There is no earth provision.
The problem I have is that, although the plug and socket joint has
live and neutral terminals in each "half", there is no key in the
joint to ensure the halves are connected in a certain
orientation.
In other words the live supply can easily be applied to the
neutral conductor attached to the trimmer.
Is the live-neutral connection important for this appliance?
If so I will have to junk the joint and dismantle the trimmer to
rewire it each time the cable is damaged.

Thanks

Phil

Assuming that your hedge trimmer is a double insulated device designed
to be used without an earth then it dioesn't matter which wire is
connected to neutral and which to live. All parts of the mains
circuitry are equally well protected from being touched. Except of
course by the blades.



Talking of which . . . Make sure that it's fed from an RCD protected
source just in case you cut through the cable with it!
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Cheers,
Roger

On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:50:25 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:06:37 UTC+1, thescullster wrote:
Hi Guys
Bit of a basic question coming up.......

I am fitting a two pin cable joint in my trimmer cable.
There is no earth provision.
The problem I have is that, although the plug and socket joint has
live and neutral terminals in each "half", there is no key in the
joint to ensure the halves are connected in a certain
orientation.
In other words the live supply can easily be applied to the
neutral conductor attached to the trimmer.
Is the live-neutral connection important for this appliance?
If so I will have to junk the joint and dismantle the trimmer to
rewire it each time the cable is damaged.

Thanks

Phil

Assuming it's modernish & legally compliant it doesn't matter.

If it turns out to be some crazy contraption created by Kreosan then either way round it'll probably kill you.


NT

I think that given the choice, I would ensure that the switch was in
the brown.

If the neutral was swithed it would make no difference practically,
but it is a far worse proposition to switch the neutral than tread on
the cracks in the pavement.

AB
From the well pummelled keyboard of Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq

On Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:06:37 UTC+1, thescullster wrote:
Hi Guys
Bit of a basic question coming up.......

I am fitting a two pin cable joint in my trimmer cable.
There is no earth provision.
The problem I have is that, although the plug and socket joint has
live and neutral terminals in each "half", there is no key in the
joint to ensure the halves are connected in a certain
orientation.
In other words the live supply can easily be applied to the
neutral conductor attached to the trimmer.
Is the live-neutral connection important for this appliance?
If so I will have to junk the joint and dismantle the trimmer to
rewire it each time the cable is damaged.

Thanks

Phil

Assuming it's modernish & legally compliant it doesn't matter.

If it turns out to be some crazy contraption created by Kreosan then either way round it'll probably kill you.


NT

In message , Roger Hayter
writes
thescullster wrote:

Hi Guys
Bit of a basic question coming up.......

I am fitting a two pin cable joint in my trimmer cable.
There is no earth provision.
The problem I have is that, although the plug and socket joint has
live and neutral terminals in each "half", there is no key in the
joint to ensure the halves are connected in a certain
orientation.
In other words the live supply can easily be applied to the
neutral conductor attached to the trimmer.
Is the live-neutral connection important for this appliance?
If so I will have to junk the joint and dismantle the trimmer to
rewire it each time the cable is damaged.

Thanks

Phil

Assuming that your hedge trimmer is a double insulated device designed
to be used without an earth then it dioesn't matter which wire is
connected to neutral and which to live. All parts of the mains
circuitry are equally well protected from being touched. Except of
course by the blades.

Don't forget that if you reverse the mains connection, instead of the
teeth of the blades going back and forth, they go forth and back.
--
Ian

On 16/07/2020 22:03, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Roger Hayter
writes
thescullster wrote:

Hi Guys
Bit of a basic question coming up.......

I am fitting a two pin cable joint in my trimmer cable.
There is no earth provision.
The problem I have is that, although the plug and socket joint has
Â*live and neutral terminals in each "half", there is no key in the
Â*joint to ensure the halves are connected in a certain
Â*orientation.
In other words the live supply can easily be applied to the
Â*neutral conductor attached to the trimmer.
Is the live-neutral connection important for this appliance?
If so I will have to junk the joint and dismantle the trimmer to
Â*rewire it each time the cable is damaged.

Thanks

Phil

Assuming that your hedge trimmer is a double insulated device designed
to be used without an earthÂ* then it dioesn't matter which wire is
connected to neutral and which to live.Â* All parts of the mains
circuitry are equally well protected from being touched.Â* Except of
course by the blades.

Don't forget that if you reverse the mains connection, instead of the
teeth of the blades going back and forth, they go forth and back.
tee hee

On 15/07/2020 22:06, thescullster wrote:
Hi Guys
Bit of a basic question coming up.......

I am fitting a two pin cable joint in my trimmer cable.
There is no earth provision.
The problem I have is that, although the plug and socket joint has
live and neutral terminals in each "half", there is no key in the
joint to ensure the halves are connected in a certain
orientation.
In other words the live supply can easily be applied to the
neutral conductor attached to the trimmer.
Is the live-neutral connection important for this appliance?
If so I will have to junk the joint and dismantle the trimmer to
rewire it each time the cable is damaged.

Thanks

Phil

Oh dear I hope you don't have DC mains then ......

On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 09:33:45 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote:

On 15/07/2020 22:06, thescullster wrote:
Hi Guys
Bit of a basic question coming up.......

I am fitting a two pin cable joint in my trimmer cable.
There is no earth provision.
The problem I have is that, although the plug and socket joint has
live and neutral terminals in each "half", there is no key in the
joint to ensure the halves are connected in a certain
orientation.
In other words the live supply can easily be applied to the
neutral conductor attached to the trimmer.
Is the live-neutral connection important for this appliance?
If so I will have to junk the joint and dismantle the trimmer to
rewire it each time the cable is damaged.

Thanks

Phil

Oh dear I hope you don't have DC mains then ......

One hates to tinkle on the jolly old bonfire, but it makes no odds!

I believe most hedge trimmers use a universal motor, so to change
direction you have to alter the field coil polarity.

They will work on DC and go in the same direction with any polarity,
so if your local power company finds itself with a surplus of negative
half cycles....... :-)

AB
From the well pummelled keyboard of Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq

On 17/07/2020 10:00, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 09:33:45 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote:

On 15/07/2020 22:06, thescullster wrote:
Hi Guys
Bit of a basic question coming up.......

I am fitting a two pin cable joint in my trimmer cable.
There is no earth provision.
The problem I have is that, although the plug and socket joint has
live and neutral terminals in each "half", there is no key in the
joint to ensure the halves are connected in a certain
orientation.
In other words the live supply can easily be applied to the
neutral conductor attached to the trimmer.
Is the live-neutral connection important for this appliance?
If so I will have to junk the joint and dismantle the trimmer to
rewire it each time the cable is damaged.

Thanks

Phil

Oh dear I hope you don't have DC mains then ......

One hates to tinkle on the jolly old bonfire, but it makes no odds!

I believe most hedge trimmers use a universal motor, so to change
direction you have to alter the field coil polarity.

They will work on DC and go in the same direction with any polarity,
so if your local power company finds itself with a surplus of negative
half cycles....... :-)

AB
From the well pummelled keyboard of Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq

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On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 09:33:45 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote:

On 15/07/2020 22:06, thescullster wrote:
Hi Guys
Bit of a basic question coming up.......

I am fitting a two pin cable joint in my trimmer cable.
There is no earth provision.
The problem I have is that, although the plug and socket joint has
live and neutral terminals in each "half", there is no key in the
joint to ensure the halves are connected in a certain
orientation.
In other words the live supply can easily be applied to the
neutral conductor attached to the trimmer.
Is the live-neutral connection important for this appliance?
If so I will have to junk the joint and dismantle the trimmer to
rewire it each time the cable is damaged.

Thanks

Phil

Oh dear I hope you don't have DC mains then ......

One hates to tinkle on the jolly old bonfire, but it makes no odds!

I believe most hedge trimmers use a universal motor, so to change
direction you have to alter the field coil polarity.

They will work on DC and go in the same direction with any polarity,
so if your local power company finds itself with a surplus of negative
half cycles....... :-)

AB
From the well pummelled keyboard of Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq


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