then there is a good reason for it! I discovered last night that expanding
foam doesnt readily come off fingers and what makes it worse is all the dirt
and dust made my fingers turn black so I look like I have been digging in
the garden all morning! I guess it will come off eventually (

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 10:37:22 +0100, "a" wrote:

then there is a good reason for it! I discovered last night that expanding
foam doesnt readily come off fingers and what makes it worse is all the dirt
and dust made my fingers turn black so I look like I have been digging in
the garden all morning! I guess it will come off eventually (



Yep. In about a week.

Polyurethane glue does the same, for future reference.


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"a" wrote in message
. net...
then there is a good reason for it! I discovered last night that expanding
foam doesnt readily come off fingers and what makes it worse is all the
dirt
and dust made my fingers turn black so I look like I have been digging in
the garden all morning! I guess it will come off eventually (

i had the same experience last year took about 3days until i managed to
scratch it all of :-(
that will teach me to read the instructions........

A similar thing happened SWMBO when we were decorating our first room - I
said "It says wear gloves and it looks a bit nasty", she said "Don't be
soft, it will be fine". And then spent the next hour in the bathroom trying
(without success) to get it off. Laugh? Me? Never.

If it's any consolation it only took a few days in the end.

"a" wrote in message
. net...
then there is a good reason for it! I discovered last night that expanding
foam doesnt readily come off fingers and what makes it worse is all the
dirt
and dust made my fingers turn black so I look like I have been digging in
the garden all morning! I guess it will come off eventually (

a wrote:
then there is a good reason for it! I discovered last night that expanding
foam doesnt readily come off fingers and what makes it worse is all the dirt
and dust made my fingers turn black so I look like I have been digging in
the garden all morning! I guess it will come off eventually (


Try getting a bit up your arms where the hairs are - leaves a bit of a
bald patch and hurts like hell to pick it off!
AJ

Must be time to point this out again for newcommers who've not seen it...
http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/humour.html#foam

--
Andrew Gabriel

The US military have researched using expanding foam for riot control.
You spray the stuff over the naughty people and they end up stuck to
each other, themselves, the ground etc.
Sounds like it should work.

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 14:53:35 +0100, AJ wrote:

a wrote:
then there is a good reason for it! I discovered last night that expanding
foam doesnt readily come off fingers and what makes it worse is all the dirt
and dust made my fingers turn black so I look like I have been digging in
the garden all morning! I guess it will come off eventually (


Try getting a bit up your arms where the hairs are - leaves a bit of a
bald patch and hurts like hell to pick it off!
AJ

Women pay a lot of money for that. We should patent the
application....



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On 2 Sep 2004 08:37:41 -0700,
(rockdoctor) wrote:

The US military have researched using expanding foam for riot control.
You spray the stuff over the naughty people and they end up stuck to
each other, themselves, the ground etc.
Sounds like it should work.

We should suggest it to Mr. Speaker. He could buy a few cases.

None of this mucking around with purple flour.



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I do remember that story, obviously before the days of camera phones )


"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
Must be time to point this out again for newcommers who've not seen it...
http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/humour.html#foam

--
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"a" wrote in
. net:

then there is a good reason for it! I discovered last night that
expanding foam doesnt readily come off fingers and what makes it worse
is all the dirt and dust made my fingers turn black so I look like I
have been digging in the garden all morning! I guess it will come off
eventually (

Tell me about it - I used some for the first time recently.

The trouble is you never believe the instructions these days, flux is ok if
you don't get it in a cut , or rub your eyes; most things marked corrosive
arent (very), so you see yet anuvver "wear gloves" and think "b***s" and
you've got this fearsome muck everywhere.

I also tried shaping it with a wet knife. Anyone know how to get it off?

mike

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 18:03:05 +0000 (UTC), mike ring
wrote:

"a" wrote in
.net:

then there is a good reason for it! I discovered last night that
expanding foam doesnt readily come off fingers and what makes it worse
is all the dirt and dust made my fingers turn black so I look like I
have been digging in the garden all morning! I guess it will come off
eventually (

Tell me about it - I used some for the first time recently.

The trouble is you never believe the instructions these days, flux is ok if
you don't get it in a cut , or rub your eyes; most things marked corrosive
arent (very), so you see yet anuvver "wear gloves" and think "b***s" and
you've got this fearsome muck everywhere.

I also tried shaping it with a wet knife. Anyone know how to get it off?

mike

After it cures, which it does using water, the only way I know of is
mechanical - i.e. scrape or wear off.

I've had a modicum of success with some stuff called Resinega which is
mainly intended for paints and resins but works reasonably well on
this if you're persistent.

Before it cures, I've found that acetone seems to affect it fairly
well.



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a wrote:
then there is a good reason for it! I discovered last night that expanding
foam doesnt readily come off fingers and what makes it worse is all the dirt
and dust made my fingers turn black so I look like I have been digging in
the garden all morning! I guess it will come off eventually (

I found that 2 hours kayaking in the river Avon (Bristol/Bath area) got
rid of all traces of foam filler including the black brick dust it had
glued to my hands!
--
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Andy Hall wrote in
:


After it cures, which it does using water, the only way I know of is
mechanical - i.e. scrape or wear off.

I've had a modicum of success with some stuff called Resinega which is
mainly intended for paints and resins but works reasonably well on
this if you're persistent.

Thanks Andy, I think I'll settle for wearing off.

Scraping it off a ssharpish knife seems like a ticket to Casuality.

mike

In message , a
writes
then there is a good reason for it! I discovered last night that expanding
foam doesnt readily come off fingers and what makes it worse is all the dirt
and dust made my fingers turn black so I look like I have been digging in
the garden all morning! I guess it will come off eventually (

Angle grinder

--
geoff

In message , rockdoctor
writes
The US military have researched using expanding foam for riot control.
You spray the stuff over the naughty people and they end up stuck to
each other, themselves, the ground etc.
Sounds like it should work.

Not quite the same stuff though

--
geoff

In message , AJ
writes
a wrote:
then there is a good reason for it! I discovered last night that expanding
foam doesnt readily come off fingers and what makes it worse is all the dirt
and dust made my fingers turn black so I look like I have been digging in
the garden all morning! I guess it will come off eventually (

Try getting a bit up your arms where the hairs are - leaves a bit of a
bald patch and hurts like hell to pick it off!

Be brave and rip it off quickly - like a plaster

it's the DIY version of a mexican waxing


--
geoff

"raden" wrote in message
...
In message , a
writes
then there is a good reason for it! I discovered last night that
expanding
foam doesnt readily come off fingers and what makes it worse is all the
dirt
and dust made my fingers turn black so I look like I have been digging in
the garden all morning! I guess it will come off eventually (

Angle grinder

LOL

or for the delicate of heart, the ROS.

The more adventurous could use a spindle moulder, with appropriate cutters
of course....

--
Richard Sampson

mail me at
richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 21:24:56 +0000 (UTC), mike ring
wrote:

Andy Hall wrote in
:


After it cures, which it does using water, the only way I know of is
mechanical - i.e. scrape or wear off.

I've had a modicum of success with some stuff called Resinega which is
mainly intended for paints and resins but works reasonably well on
this if you're persistent.

Thanks Andy, I think I'll settle for wearing off.

Scraping it off a ssharpish knife seems like a ticket to Casuality.

mike


OK. Actually, Resinega is not at all unpleasant. It's a fine
gritty stuff in a liquid soap base. Cleans effectively without
wrecking the hands.


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On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 22:46:05 +0100, "RichardS" noone@invalid wrote:



"raden" wrote in message
...
In message , a
writes
then there is a good reason for it! I discovered last night that
expanding
foam doesnt readily come off fingers and what makes it worse is all the
dirt
and dust made my fingers turn black so I look like I have been digging in
the garden all morning! I guess it will come off eventually (

Angle grinder

LOL

or for the delicate of heart, the ROS.

The more adventurous could use a spindle moulder, with appropriate cutters
of course....


Not now that they have limiters. They don't take off enough skin at a
time. Besides, it wouldn't be any good if you used the glue joint
cutters.

Now the planer.......


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Chris Hodges wrote in message ...

I found that 2 hours kayaking in the river Avon (Bristol/Bath area) got
rid of all traces of foam filler including the black brick dust it had
glued to my hands!

no chance of you sinking anyway

NT

Andy Hall wrote in message . ..
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 10:37:22 +0100, "a" wrote:

then there is a good reason for it! I discovered last night that expanding
foam doesnt readily come off fingers and what makes it worse is all the dirt
and dust made my fingers turn black so I look like I have been digging in
the garden all morning! I guess it will come off eventually (



Yep. In about a week.

Agreed. Maybe a bit longer on fingernails. The hard bit is finding
suitable reposts to everybody's witty remarks.

I was only filling a little hole, so I though I'd save the free gloves
for a bigger job. But when the valve on the can failed and it wouldn't
shut off... :-(

I also have an incredibly well-insulated bucket that I threw it in.

Chris

(Andrew Gabriel) wrote in message ...
Must be time to point this out again for newcommers who've not seen it...
http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/humour.html#foam


I qualify as a 'newcomer' for this one - why is that we get so much
pleasure at someone elses misfortune? On the other hand there is a
definite case of a nig-nog in this story.

I got involved in biulding fibregalss canoes back in the late 60's
and clearly remember going through the same process of plugging the
ends with 50:1 expanding foam. I seem to remember gettting more
concerned about the catalyst being an isocyanate. We had an
instructor who had been through all the hoops before and certainly
made sure that we used the correct quantity. One thing that we did do
was the dunk the end of the canoe into a large bucket of iced cold
water to absorb the heat given off.

Rob

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 19:15:25 +0100, Andy Hall wrote:

After it cures, which it does using water, the only way I know of is
mechanical - i.e. scrape or wear off.

Assuming it's bonded to the surface. It doesn't to the nozzle so
faffing about trying to clean that part and getting the stuff on your
hands(*) is a waste of time. Wait for it to fully cure unscrew the
tube from the valve head and pull it of clean, prod about with
something small in the valve head and that comes up as well.

Before it cures, I've found that acetone seems to affect it fairly
well.

The instructions mention vegetable oil which does work to a degree and
doesn't dry out your skin like acetone. Tried vegetable oil on oil
based paint the other day, removed it fine and again far better for
the skin and easier to wash off than turps.

(*) Boy does it stick to skin, lightest of touch and it's stuck fast.
I'll be wearing lightweight disposable gloves next time, I couldn't do
the fine manipulation required for the tube cleaning with my proper
protective rubber gloves on so took 'em off...

--
Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail

On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 01:01:31 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 19:15:25 +0100, Andy Hall wrote:

After it cures, which it does using water, the only way I know of is
mechanical - i.e. scrape or wear off.

Assuming it's bonded to the surface. It doesn't to the nozzle so
faffing about trying to clean that part and getting the stuff on your
hands(*) is a waste of time. Wait for it to fully cure unscrew the
tube from the valve head and pull it of clean, prod about with
something small in the valve head and that comes up as well.

Before it cures, I've found that acetone seems to affect it fairly
well.

The instructions mention vegetable oil which does work to a degree and
doesn't dry out your skin like acetone. Tried vegetable oil on oil
based paint the other day, removed it fine and again far better for
the skin and easier to wash off than turps.

I've tried that and it does work reasonably well as you say. As I
mentioned, I mainly use Resinega now, for this and for oil based
paints. There's a fine abrasive sensation and it removes a lot of
this type of stuff. However, there's also a skin moisturiser which
helps.


(*) Boy does it stick to skin, lightest of touch and it's stuck fast.
I'll be wearing lightweight disposable gloves next time, I couldn't do
the fine manipulation required for the tube cleaning with my proper
protective rubber gloves on so took 'em off...

I generally use them when I'm using PU glue, but also tend to use
disposable glue brushes.

It would make sense if you could buy tops and tubes for the filler
stuff separately. Of course that's naive, because then you wouldn't
buy far too big a can than is needed and waste half of it.


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mike ring wrote in message . 252.50...
The trouble is you never believe the instructions these days,

Whilst I can sympathise, methinks I read here someone else's tale
about an item or a procedure that ought to be followed.
The manufacturer of that item had put a subtle warning on the label:
"Before you do it your way, do it our way."

Now I get blase about warnings just like everyone else reading this
newsgroup (sweeping generalisation time), but that particular phrase
stuck with me (no pun intended) since the thought is that manufacturers
spend thousands on developing their products but someone sitting at
home has a better idea of what is required for a particular situation...

I also agree with the sentiment that you must make sure that your
enthusiasm does not eclipse your competence.

Mungo

(Mungo Henning) wrote in
m:

The trouble is you never believe the instructions these days,

Whilst I can sympathise, methinks I read here someone else's tale
about an item or a procedure that ought to be followed.
The manufacturer of that item had put a subtle warning on the label:
"Before you do it your way, do it our way."

Tektronix used to (maybe still do) do that with their excellent and complex
oscilloscopes. They also said "please".

But the instrument wouldn't bite you, merely not work if not driven
correctly.

In my kitchen I have similar dire warnings on surface descaler and washing
soda.

When the state devalues warnings to that extent, the system becomes useless

mike

mike ring wrote:
(Mungo Henning) wrote in
m:

The trouble is you never believe the instructions these days,

Whilst I can sympathise, methinks I read here someone else's tale
about an item or a procedure that ought to be followed.
The manufacturer of that item had put a subtle warning on the label:
"Before you do it your way, do it our way."

Tektronix used to (maybe still do) do that with their excellent and complex
oscilloscopes. They also said "please".

But the instrument wouldn't bite you, merely not work if not driven
correctly.

In my kitchen I have similar dire warnings on surface descaler and washing
soda.

When the state devalues warnings to that extent, the system becomes useless

It'd be nice if the warnings were expanded with likely consequences.

"Do not spray near naked flame - or large explosion may result"
"Wear gloves while applying paint - or you'll get dirty"

Ian Stirling wrote in
:


When the state devalues warnings to that extent, the system becomes
useless

It'd be nice if the warnings were expanded with likely consequences.

"Do not spray near naked flame - or large explosion may result"
"Wear gloves while applying paint - or you'll get dirty"


That's one of the best suggestions I've seen.

Don't try to get a job in politics, public safety, etc, etc

mike

"Ian Stirling" wrote
| It'd be nice if the warnings were expanded with likely consequences.
| "Do not spray near naked flame - or large explosion may result"
| "Wear gloves while applying paint - or you'll get dirty"

"Do not attempt to put on trousers whilst standing up - you will fall over"

Owain

"Owain" wrote in
:


"Do not attempt to put on trousers whilst standing up - you will fall
over"

Owain

I can do that! at my age.

mike

In article , owain41276
@stirlingcity.co.uk says...
"Ian Stirling" wrote
| It'd be nice if the warnings were expanded with likely consequences.
| "Do not spray near naked flame - or large explosion may result"
| "Wear gloves while applying paint - or you'll get dirty"

"Do not attempt to put on trousers whilst standing up - you will fall over"

Owain



No !

I always put on trousers standing up.

Only time I ever fell over was on coming home slightly the worse for
wear, oh alright very musch the worse for wear, when try as I might I
could not get my pyjama bottoms on. Firing them into the corner in
disgust I awoke in the morning to find the bottoms under the pillow and
the top in the corner.


--
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In message , Paul Mc Cann
writes
In article , owain41276
says...
"Ian Stirling" wrote
| It'd be nice if the warnings were expanded with likely consequences.
| "Do not spray near naked flame - or large explosion may result"
| "Wear gloves while applying paint - or you'll get dirty"

"Do not attempt to put on trousers whilst standing up - you will fall over"

Owain



No !

I always put on trousers standing up.

Only time I ever fell over was on coming home slightly the worse for
wear, oh alright very musch the worse for wear, when try as I might I
could not get my pyjama bottoms on. Firing them into the corner in
disgust I awoke in the morning to find the bottoms under the pillow and
the top in the corner.

You wear PJs?

Not during the summer I trust

--
geoff

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 19:41:03 GMT, raden wrote:

In message , Paul Mc Cann
writes
In article , owain41276
says...
"Ian Stirling" wrote
| It'd be nice if the warnings were expanded with likely consequences.
| "Do not spray near naked flame - or large explosion may result"
| "Wear gloves while applying paint - or you'll get dirty"

"Do not attempt to put on trousers whilst standing up - you will fall over"

Owain



No !

I always put on trousers standing up.

Only time I ever fell over was on coming home slightly the worse for
wear, oh alright very musch the worse for wear, when try as I might I
could not get my pyjama bottoms on. Firing them into the corner in
disgust I awoke in the morning to find the bottoms under the pillow and
the top in the corner.

You wear PJs?

Not during the summer I trust


It's probably just in case of fire.



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