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Paper shredder recommendations fos 'soho' environment?
Hi all
any recommendations (or anti-recommendations) for makes and/or models of paper shredders for home/small office use? I've experimented with the hand-held ones for a fiver (laughable) and expect that it's a case of 'you get what you pay for'. however any specifics would be welcome. Also, are there any sources of second-hand shredders? I'd rather get a tatty good quality one than a shiny cheap one. price range? I guess 30 - 100 GBP. Thanks for your thoughts Jon N |
any recommendations (or anti-recommendations) for makes and/or
models of paper shredders for home/small office use? price range? I guess 30 - 100 GBP. Box of matches - 10p :-} -- Please add "[newsgroup]" in the subject of any personal replies via email --- My new email address has "ngspamtrap" & @btinternet.com in it ;-) --- |
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What sort of usage is it going to get ? if it is going to get a lot of use,
expect to pay for something that will take the stick We use a fellows shredder, straight cut, takes up to 7-8 sheets at a time. It probably gets used every day, all bills/statements/receipts go through it eventually, but also I bring home relatively 'clean' but used paper from work every week and that gets shredded to provided bedding for some small furry animals - cant do that with cross cut shredding ! Mike www.mikes-walks.co.uk |
In article , EricP wrote:
Rexel or Fellowes If you are going to be doing a lot of shredding, get the largest waste bin on it, that you can. They fill up in minutes. I paid serious money for a Fellowes cross-cut shredder - model 105 IIRC. Cross-cut shredders produce a lot less volume of shredded paper as compared with strip shredders. -- Tony Bryer SDA UK 'Software to build on' http://www.sda.co.uk Free SEDBUK boiler database browser http://www.sda.co.uk/qsedbuk.htm |
On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 16:00:21 GMT, Tony Bryer
wrote: In article , EricP wrote: Rexel or Fellowes If you are going to be doing a lot of shredding, get the largest waste bin on it, that you can. They fill up in minutes. I paid serious money for a Fellowes cross-cut shredder - model 105 IIRC. Cross-cut shredders produce a lot less volume of shredded paper as compared with strip shredders. ... and it's a lot harder to stick the bits back together again. With strip shredders, it's pretty easy to do that. ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
"Jon Nicoll" wrote in message om... Hi all any recommendations (or anti-recommendations) for makes and/or models of paper shredders for home/small office use? I've experimented with the hand-held ones for a fiver (laughable) and expect that it's a case of 'you get what you pay for'. however any specifics would be welcome. Also, are there any sources of second-hand shredders? I'd rather get a tatty good quality one than a shiny cheap one. price range? I guess 30 - 100 GBP. Thanks for your thoughts Jon N Costco are selling a nice one on a bin, about 60 quid I think. Capable of cutting up CDs as well. Good thing about Costco is if you don't like it within a month you can take it back for cash refund, and up to a year if it has a fault. mrcheerful mrcheerful |
"Jon Nicoll" wrote in message om... Hi all any recommendations (or anti-recommendations) for makes and/or models of paper shredders for home/small office use? I've experimented with the hand-held ones for a fiver (laughable) and expect that it's a case of 'you get what you pay for'. however any specifics would be welcome. Also, are there any sources of second-hand shredders? I'd rather get a tatty good quality one than a shiny cheap one. Pair of scissors? DIY newsgroup after all... |
In message , Jon Nicoll
writes Hi all any recommendations (or anti-recommendations) for makes and/or models of paper shredders for home/small office use? We're using the Fellowes PS60C-2 and it works fine. It seems to cost about GBP80 now. As someone else has suggested any good make is likely to out-perform and out-last a cheaper buy. It's worth using appropriate oil regularly to keep the mechanism working well. I've experimented with the hand-held ones for a fiver (laughable) and expect that it's a case of 'you get what you pay for'. however any specifics would be welcome. Also, are there any sources of second-hand shredders? I'd rather get a tatty good quality one than a shiny cheap one. Problem with 2nd-hand is that you don't know what (mis-)use it has been put to before. -- dave @ stejonda Bring culture back to NTL. http://www.performance-channel.com/ |
any recommendations (or anti-recommendations) for makes and/or models of paper shredders for home/small office use? Shredders are graded s1 - straight cut (usually 6mm wide) s2 - cross cut (about 4mm x6mm approx) s3 - the serious stuff that makes confetti and priced to match Unless you are in MI5 etc , S2 shredders are ok. Staples have one on offer for £18 or so. Just shred envelopes and other non sensitive material along with Swiss bank account statements and its the dog's ********. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
On 1 Sep 2004 06:18:42 -0700, Jon Nicoll wrote:
any recommendations (or anti-recommendations) for makes and/or models of paper shredders for home/small office use? What security do you want? Cheap ones are generally straight cut, you'll need to pay more for a crosscut. Straight cut reduces the paper to strips and if you don't think the strips can hold the lines of type... Cross cut produces narrow diamonds much less chance of having a whole CC number on one diamond. I bought a tiny thing ages ago, takes A4 folded on the narrow edge, straight cut, clips on the side of a box or bin. It does well enough for CC slips, statement bits that I don't need to keep etc. Provided you remember the orientation to cut across the lines of type. Before going mad with the shreder it might be worth remembering that the IR require financial documentation to be kept for *at least* 22 months past the end of the Tax Year to which they relate. Sole Traders and Companies have 5 and 6 years and capital gains/losses may need much longer periods. http://www.inlandrevenue.gov.uk/pdfs/sabk4.htm -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
In message , Tony Bryer
writes In article , EricP wrote: Rexel or Fellowes If you are going to be doing a lot of shredding, get the largest waste bin on it, that you can. They fill up in minutes. I paid serious money for a Fellowes cross-cut shredder - model 105 IIRC. Cross-cut shredders produce a lot less volume of shredded paper as compared with strip shredders. Bloody useless as packing material though (tried shredding the RS catalogues ... once) -- geoff |
In message , Scott Mills
writes "Jon Nicoll" wrote in message . com... Hi all any recommendations (or anti-recommendations) for makes and/or models of paper shredders for home/small office use? I've experimented with the hand-held ones for a fiver (laughable) and expect that it's a case of 'you get what you pay for'. however any specifics would be welcome. Also, are there any sources of second-hand shredders? I'd rather get a tatty good quality one than a shiny cheap one. Pair of scissors? DIY newsgroup after all... Stanley blades surely ... -- geoff |
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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ill.com...
On 1 Sep 2004 06:18:42 -0700, Jon Nicoll wrote: any recommendations (or anti-recommendations) for makes and/or models of paper shredders for home/small office use? What security do you want? putting the paper in the same bin as food scrap waste is pretty effective :) Or if you have a litter tray... NT |
Hi all
any recommendations (or anti-recommendations) for makes and/or models of paper shredders for home/small office use? Buy an incinerator for around £15 - £20 and burn the stuff. As others have mentioned, the cheaper machines tend to be straight cut and this very often leaves stuff legible and can be put together (cf. Iranian takeover of US Embassy in Teheran). Cross cut is much better but more expensive. I bought on for around £50 a few years back, but found that the motors heat up and automatically cut out after around half a dozen to a dozen sheets of A4. You then have to wait a few minutes (seems like ages) before you can use it again. Now I simply fill a waste bin with stuff and then burn it. Means I can chuck all the junk mail, with my name and address listed on it at least twice, straight in the "to burn" bin. I burnt a load a credit card receipts a while ago - much more satisfying than cutting them up :o) |
Ziggy wrote:
Now I simply fill a waste bin with stuff and then burn it. Means I can chuck all the junk mail, with my name and address listed on it at least twice, straight in the "to burn" bin. Since most people's names and addresses are easily obtainable by all sorts of means I really see no point in shredding junk mail with just your name and address on it - life's too short to worry about such things. Hundreds (if not thousands) of businesses will have your name and address, it's on the electoral register, you've given it to friends and relations. If someone want's to "steal an identity" they're much more likely to use a name and address they can find quickly (at work, wherever) than they are to go digging around on rubbish dumps for old junk mail. -- Chris Green |
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"N. Thornton" wrote
| putting the paper in the same bin as food scrap waste is pretty | effective :) Or if you have a litter tray... Compost heap. Owain |
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In message , Ziggy
writes On 1 Sep 2004 06:18:42 -0700, (Jon Nicoll) wrote: Hi all any recommendations (or anti-recommendations) for makes and/or models of paper shredders for home/small office use? Buy an incinerator for around £15 - £20 and burn the stuff. As others have mentioned, the cheaper machines tend to be straight cut and this very often leaves stuff legible and can be put together (cf. Iranian takeover of US Embassy in Teheran). But does this really matter for the typical home/soho user? I can't believe someone is going to bothered to root around in my bin to piece together recipts/bills etc. -- Chris French, Leeds |
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writes Hi all any recommendations (or anti-recommendations) for makes and/or models of paper shredders for home/small office use? Buy an incinerator for around £15 - £20 and burn the stuff. As others have mentioned, the cheaper machines tend to be straight cut and this very often leaves stuff legible and can be put together (cf. Iranian takeover of US Embassy in Teheran). Cross cut is much better but more expensive. I bought on for around £50 a few years back, but found that the motors heat up and automatically cut out after around half a dozen to a dozen sheets of A4. You then have to wait a few minutes (seems like ages) before you can use it again. Now I simply fill a waste bin with stuff and then burn it. Means I can chuck all the junk mail, with my name and address listed on it at least twice, straight in the "to burn" bin. I burnt a load a credit card receipts a while ago - much more satisfying than cutting them up :o) But not as much fun as burning the credit card itself -- geoff |
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 22:04:14 +0100, chris French
wrote: In message , Ziggy writes On 1 Sep 2004 06:18:42 -0700, (Jon Nicoll) wrote: Hi all any recommendations (or anti-recommendations) for makes and/or models of paper shredders for home/small office use? Buy an incinerator for around £15 - £20 and burn the stuff. As others have mentioned, the cheaper machines tend to be straight cut and this very often leaves stuff legible and can be put together (cf. Iranian takeover of US Embassy in Teheran). But does this really matter for the typical home/soho user? I can't believe someone is going to bothered to root around in my bin to piece together recipts/bills etc. Don't you believe it. A former colleague living in Switzerland had exactly this happen. He lived close to the parliament in Bern in a district where mainly business people and politicians resided. In typical tidy fashion, there was a local ordinance that rubbish should not be put out more than 4 hours before the appointed collection time. For him this was 1400, but of course he left for work at 0730 each day, so of course put out the rubbish along with everyone else in the street immediately before leaving. One day, the colleague arrived home to find an official notice that he should attend the local police station because of a complaint - the subject being Abfall (rubbish). He duly went there, only to meet a group of his neighbours and a very weary police sergeant who explained that he, too, was aggrieved because he had had a complaint from one of the politicians about the rubbish. In order to identify the culprits, he had had to send out his men at 0955 (just before the appointed time limit) to check people's rubbish and look for envelopes etc. to identify who it belonged to. My colleague was a definite shredaholic and everything including junk mail went through his machine. The police showed him a piece of paper with pieces of one of his shredded envelopes stuck to it, reformed as his name and address.. If it can happen in Bern it can happen in Leeds. His area of Bern was also described as "soho", but that was for a different reason. ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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Andy Hall wrote:
I can't believe someone is going to bothered to root around in my bin to piece together recipts/bills etc. Don't you believe it. A former colleague living in Switzerland had exactly this happen. He lived close to the parliament in Bern in a district where mainly business people and politicians resided. In typical tidy fashion, there was a local ordinance that rubbish should not be put out more than 4 hours before the appointed collection time. For him this was 1400, but of course he left for work at 0730 each day, so of course put out the rubbish along with everyone else in the street immediately before leaving. One day, the colleague arrived home to find an official notice that he should attend the local police station because of a complaint - the subject being Abfall (rubbish). He duly went there, only to meet a group of his neighbours and a very weary police sergeant who explained that he, too, was aggrieved because he had had a complaint from one of the politicians about the rubbish. In order to identify the culprits, he had had to send out his men at 0955 (just before the appointed time limit) to check people's rubbish and look for envelopes etc. to identify who it belonged to. My colleague was a definite shredaholic and everything including junk mail went through his machine. The police showed him a piece of paper with pieces of one of his shredded envelopes stuck to it, reformed as his name and address.. If it can happen in Bern it can happen in Leeds. His area of Bern was also described as "soho", but that was for a different reason. .... not really an argument pointing towards the great likelihood of identity theft though is it! :-) -- Chris Green |
Pete C wrote:
It might be worth seeing if there is a local company that does secure document disposal, if they charge a few quid for an archive box worth it might be easier to let them deal with it. Anyway that's what I plan to do with my Ltd. Co. documents when I've kept them long enough. Why? What 'identity' is there to steal in a company name and address? -- Chris Green |
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