On 06/07/2020 11:25, T i m wrote:

The other thing is that you are often completely reliant on 'other
people' doing the right ting and we know from general hand washing /
hygiene, many people don't (and don't understand how / why / when
etc).


There was a instructional hand washing video at the start of the
lockdown where someone turned on the tap, spent 30 seconds washing their
hands, and then used the hand just washed to turn the tap off again!
All the official instructions showed people using their elbow to turn
off large lever taps. I wonder even if washing hands in a public toilet
(pub, restaurant) or even staff washing facilities have the type of taps
that prevent cross infection from the tap handles.

I went to my local hospital for a blood test yesterday and they had the
precautions in place. They had moved testing to the ground floor so
access to the anywhere in rest of the hospital was unnecessary. Everyone
had to wear a mask to enter, staff with sanitiser at the hospital
entrance (except I had the fist appointment of the day just before the
staff had turned up), staff with a non-contact thermometer and more
sanitiser at the entrance to the testing section. Most of the waiting
room chairs taped up to enforce social distancing. A one way system.
I was asked 3 times for my name which was ticked off on a paper sheet.
All out-patient blood tests are by appointment only and in my case I can
book on-line where the site has my NHS number, email and address.

However some observations - The foaming sanitiser applied to the hands
by staff was a token amount that wasn't enough to even spread it over my
palms before disappearing. The one way exit system took me all around
some empty corridors to meet up with people entering the only entrance
to that part of the hospital.

Possibly as result of fewer people choosing to visit hospital for what
may be considered a routine test I was in and out in less than 10
minutes.


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On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 09:57:20 +0100, alan_m
wrote:

On 06/07/2020 11:25, T i m wrote:

The other thing is that you are often completely reliant on 'other
people' doing the right ting and we know from general hand washing /
hygiene, many people don't (and don't understand how / why / when
etc).


There was a instructional hand washing video at the start of the
lockdown where someone turned on the tap, spent 30 seconds washing their
hands, and then used the hand just washed to turn the tap off again!
All the official instructions showed people using their elbow to turn
off large lever taps. I wonder even if washing hands in a public toilet
(pub, restaurant) or even staff washing facilities have the type of taps
that prevent cross infection from the tap handles.

Quite.

I went to my local hospital for a blood test yesterday and they had the
precautions in place. They had moved testing to the ground floor so
access to the anywhere in rest of the hospital was unnecessary. Everyone
had to wear a mask to enter, staff with sanitiser at the hospital
entrance (except I had the fist appointment of the day just before the
staff had turned up), staff with a non-contact thermometer and more
sanitiser at the entrance to the testing section. Most of the waiting
room chairs taped up to enforce social distancing. A one way system.
I was asked 3 times for my name which was ticked off on a paper sheet.
All out-patient blood tests are by appointment only and in my case I can
book on-line where the site has my NHS number, email and address.

That reminds me, just before the lockdown (and the thing that came up
under my foot) I was due to have a routine blood test. I turned up and
the local clinic at about 10 and they had closed against any more
people. I didn't go back.

When I went to see the specialist was the same day the first
Coronavirus patient was put into their isolation area (what looked
like one small Portakabin) and the 'you should get a call back to have
it removed' in a couple of weeks happened 2 months later.

I was asked to wear a face mask (one was provided) but the ward was
pretty empty and I only saw maybe 5 people in the 30 mins I was
waiting. The PPE worn by said staff ranged from nothing to mask,
visor, gloves and suit.

However some observations - The foaming sanitiser applied to the hands
by staff was a token amount that wasn't enough to even spread it over my
palms before disappearing. The one way exit system took me all around
some empty corridors to meet up with people entering the only entrance
to that part of the hospital.

Hmmm. ;-(

Possibly as result of fewer people choosing to visit hospital for what
may be considered a routine test I was in and out in less than 10
minutes.

Yeah, I surprised the Mrs when I walked (the local anaesthetic hadn't
worn off by that time g) back to the car park and I was longer
waiting for my appointment than the procedure itself.

Pre all this we have also been on our way home before the actual
appointment time (got there 30 mins early and been ushered straight
in). ;-)

Just walked the dog to an electrical wholesalers to pick up a couple
of fluro tubes. There was a couple of guys (Electricians) buying stuff
at the counter acting like everything was as normal, neither they nor
the staff member were wearing masks. I waited outside with the dog
then went in when called and kept my distance from the counter /
staff. They had the contactless terminal out in front of the counter
and the tubes were 1.5m long so he could hand me the goods and keep a
safe distance. ;-)

Cheers, T i m