DIYbanter

DIYbanter (https://www.diybanter.com/)
-   UK diy (https://www.diybanter.com/uk-diy/)
-   -   Paint removal (https://www.diybanter.com/uk-diy/651104-paint-removal.html)

Scott[_17_] June 24th 20 05:51 PM

Paint removal
 
I dropped a tin of paint this afternoon. Fortunately this occurred
outside. The paint is oil-based primer (red oxide). The surface is
some sort of concrete. How am I supposed to remove this?

1. B&Q suggest white spirit but I cannot see this working after the
paint has dried.

2. Steel brush attached to power drill?

3. Nitromors?

4. My favourite - flame thrower (as used for clearing weeds)?

alan_m June 24th 20 06:13 PM

Paint removal
 
On 24/06/2020 17:51, Scott wrote:
I dropped a tin of paint this afternoon. Fortunately this occurred
outside. The paint is oil-based primer (red oxide). The surface is
some sort of concrete. How am I supposed to remove this?

1. B&Q suggest white spirit but I cannot see this working after the
paint has dried.

2. Steel brush attached to power drill?

3. Nitromors?

4. My favourite - flame thrower (as used for clearing weeds)?


Paint the rest of the concrete red. Or overpaint it with a more
acceptable colour.

--
mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

GB[_6_] June 24th 20 06:19 PM

Paint removal
 
On 24/06/2020 17:51, Scott wrote:
I dropped a tin of paint this afternoon. Fortunately this occurred
outside. The paint is oil-based primer (red oxide). The surface is
some sort of concrete. How am I supposed to remove this?

1. B&Q suggest white spirit but I cannot see this working after the
paint has dried.

2. Steel brush attached to power drill?

3. Nitromors?

4. My favourite - flame thrower (as used for clearing weeds)?



Is red oxide lead these days? If so, burning it might be a really bad idea.



polygonum_on_google[_2_] June 24th 20 07:55 PM

Paint removal
 
On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 17:51:19 UTC+1, Scott wrote:
I dropped a tin of paint this afternoon. Fortunately this occurred
outside. The paint is oil-based primer (red oxide). The surface is
some sort of concrete. How am I supposed to remove this?

1. B&Q suggest white spirit but I cannot see this working after the
paint has dried.

2. Steel brush attached to power drill?

3. Nitromors?

4. My favourite - flame thrower (as used for clearing weeds)?


Is this a nice smooth concrete - maybe even polished to a glass-like finish? Or rough like many drives and roads - purposely made to stop them being too slippery?

If it is rough, you don't stand a chance of removing the paint. And any attempt might end up worse than it currently is. I agree with those who suggest painting over it.

[email protected] June 24th 20 09:50 PM

Paint removal
 
On 24/06/2020 17:51, Scott wrote:
I dropped a tin of paint this afternoon. Fortunately this occurred
outside. The paint is oil-based primer (red oxide). The surface is
some sort of concrete. How am I supposed to remove this?

1. B&Q suggest white spirit but I cannot see this working after the
paint has dried.

2. Steel brush attached to power drill?

3. Nitromors?

4. My favourite - flame thrower (as used for clearing weeds)?


Pressure washers are very good at getting things off surfaces, I haven't
had to try it on paint but it would be the first thing I'd try - once
the paint had fully dried. Anything chemical is likely to make a smudgy
mess.

Jimk June 24th 20 10:21 PM

Paint removal
 
Scott Wrote in message:
I dropped a tin of paint this afternoon. Fortunately this occurred
outside. The paint is oil-based primer (red oxide). The surface is
some sort of concrete. How am I supposed to remove this?

1. B&Q suggest white spirit but I cannot see this working after the
paint has dried.

2. Steel brush attached to power drill?

3. Nitromors?

4. My favourite - flame thrower (as used for clearing weeds)?


Burn it off. Nobody puts lead in retail paint anymore.
--
Jimk


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
http://usenet.sinaapp.com/

Michael Chare[_4_] June 24th 20 10:22 PM

Paint removal
 
On 24/06/2020 21:50, wrote:
On 24/06/2020 17:51, Scott wrote:
I dropped a tin of paint this afternoon.Â* Fortunately this occurred
outside.Â* The paint is oil-based primer (red oxide).Â* The surface is
some sort of concrete.Â* How am I supposed to remove this?

1.Â* B&Q suggest white spirit but I cannot see this working after the
paint has dried.

2.Â* Steel brush attached to power drill?

3.Â* Nitromors?

4.Â* My favourite - flame thrower (as used for clearing weeds)?


Pressure washers are very good at getting things off surfaces, I haven't
had to try it on paint but it would be the first thing I'd try - once
the paint had fully dried. Anything chemical is likely to make a smudgy
mess.


I removed some white paint from concrete with my quite powerful pressure
jet washer.


--
Michael Chare

Andrew[_22_] June 25th 20 05:31 PM

Paint removal
 
On 24/06/2020 22:12, Jimk wrote:
Scott Wrote in message:
I dropped a tin of paint this afternoon. Fortunately this occurred
outside. The paint is oil-based primer (red oxide). The surface is
some sort of concrete. How am I supposed to remove this?

1. B&Q suggest white spirit but I cannot see this working after the
paint has dried.

2. Steel brush attached to power drill?

3. Nitromors?

4. My favourite - flame thrower (as used for clearing weeds)?


Burn it off. Nobody puts lead in retail paint anymore.


If it is solvent-based then some of the paint will have been
taken into the concrete.

Dave Liquorice[_2_] June 25th 20 08:14 PM

Paint removal
 
On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 17:51:16 +0100, Scott wrote:

I dropped a tin of paint this afternoon. Fortunately this occurred
outside. The paint is oil-based primer (red oxide). The surface is
some sort of concrete. How am I supposed to remove this?


If hasn't dried I'd collect up as much as possible, with something
spoon like, remove more with old newspaper, then work a goodly amount
of neat washing up liquid into the remains and leave. Letting the
rain wash it away over time. Works well for engine oil spots on
concrete.

If that failed after a week or three, pressure washer time.

A gas weed burner might do it for a small area couple of square feet
tops, the flame isn't very big. For larger area a gas torch on felt
type burner or a Sheen x300 paraffin woukd be more suitable. Can't
decide if the heat will damage the concrete surface more than a
pressure washer at point blank range.

--
Cheers
Dave.




Rod Speed June 27th 20 08:18 AM

Paint removal
 


"Jimk" wrote in message
.. .
"Dave Liquorice" Wrote in message:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 17:51:16 +0100, Scott wrote:

I dropped a tin of paint this afternoon. Fortunately this occurred
outside. The paint is oil-based primer (red oxide). The surface is
some sort of concrete. How am I supposed to remove this?


If hasn't dried I'd collect up as much as possible, with something
spoon like, remove more with old newspaper, then work a goodly amount
of neat washing up liquid into the remains and leave. Letting the
rain wash it away over time. Works well for engine oil spots on
concrete.

If that failed after a week or three, pressure washer time.

A gas weed burner might do it for a small area couple of square feet
tops, the flame isn't very big. For larger area a gas torch on felt
type burner or a Sheen x300 paraffin woukd be more suitable. Can't
decide if the heat will damage the concrete surface more than a
pressure washer at point blank range.


I was thinking drop some diesel on it & light it....


Diesel is very hard to light. Metho is better.


Jimk June 27th 20 08:21 AM

Paint removal
 
"Dave Liquorice" Wrote in message:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 17:51:16 +0100, Scott wrote:

I dropped a tin of paint this afternoon. Fortunately this occurred
outside. The paint is oil-based primer (red oxide). The surface is
some sort of concrete. How am I supposed to remove this?


If hasn't dried I'd collect up as much as possible, with something
spoon like, remove more with old newspaper, then work a goodly amount
of neat washing up liquid into the remains and leave. Letting the
rain wash it away over time. Works well for engine oil spots on
concrete.

If that failed after a week or three, pressure washer time.

A gas weed burner might do it for a small area couple of square feet
tops, the flame isn't very big. For larger area a gas torch on felt
type burner or a Sheen x300 paraffin woukd be more suitable. Can't
decide if the heat will damage the concrete surface more than a
pressure washer at point blank range.


I was thinking drop some diesel on it & light it....
--
Jimk


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
http://usenet.sinaapp.com/

Peeler[_4_] June 27th 20 09:53 AM

Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
 
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 17:18:59 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

--
Sqwertz to Rodent Speed:
"This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative
asshole.
MID:

Scott[_17_] June 27th 20 10:10 AM

Paint removal
 
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 08:14:20 +0100 (GMT+01:00), Jimk
wrote:

"Dave Liquorice" Wrote in message:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 17:51:16 +0100, Scott wrote:

I dropped a tin of paint this afternoon. Fortunately this occurred
outside. The paint is oil-based primer (red oxide). The surface is
some sort of concrete. How am I supposed to remove this?


If hasn't dried I'd collect up as much as possible, with something
spoon like, remove more with old newspaper, then work a goodly amount
of neat washing up liquid into the remains and leave. Letting the
rain wash it away over time. Works well for engine oil spots on
concrete.

If that failed after a week or three, pressure washer time.

A gas weed burner might do it for a small area couple of square feet
tops, the flame isn't very big. For larger area a gas torch on felt
type burner or a Sheen x300 paraffin woukd be more suitable. Can't
decide if the heat will damage the concrete surface more than a
pressure washer at point blank range.


I was thinking drop some diesel on it & light it....


I thought diesel was quite difficult to ignite. My Aussie cousin came
up with a less dramatic suggestion - just to turn the paving stone
upside down.

Andrew[_22_] June 27th 20 12:16 PM

Paint removal
 
On 27/06/2020 10:10, Scott wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 08:14:20 +0100 (GMT+01:00), Jimk
wrote:

"Dave Liquorice" Wrote in message:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 17:51:16 +0100, Scott wrote:

I dropped a tin of paint this afternoon. Fortunately this occurred
outside. The paint is oil-based primer (red oxide). The surface is
some sort of concrete. How am I supposed to remove this?

If hasn't dried I'd collect up as much as possible, with something
spoon like, remove more with old newspaper, then work a goodly amount
of neat washing up liquid into the remains and leave. Letting the
rain wash it away over time. Works well for engine oil spots on
concrete.

If that failed after a week or three, pressure washer time.

A gas weed burner might do it for a small area couple of square feet
tops, the flame isn't very big. For larger area a gas torch on felt
type burner or a Sheen x300 paraffin woukd be more suitable. Can't
decide if the heat will damage the concrete surface more than a
pressure washer at point blank range.


I was thinking drop some diesel on it & light it....


I thought diesel was quite difficult to ignite. My Aussie cousin came
up with a less dramatic suggestion - just to turn the paving stone
upside down.


You said 'some sort of concrete' originally though. Inverting affected
paving slabs would only work if they were laid on soil without any
mortar (or used a weak-mix mortar that can be removed), and also if
the underside has the same texture/pattern as the top, which not all do
and UV light will have affected all the others but not the underside
of the paint-stained one.

Scott[_17_] June 27th 20 12:42 PM

Paint removal
 
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 12:16:59 +0100, Andrew
wrote:

On 27/06/2020 10:10, Scott wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 08:14:20 +0100 (GMT+01:00), Jimk
wrote:

"Dave Liquorice" Wrote in message:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 17:51:16 +0100, Scott wrote:

I dropped a tin of paint this afternoon. Fortunately this occurred
outside. The paint is oil-based primer (red oxide). The surface is
some sort of concrete. How am I supposed to remove this?

If hasn't dried I'd collect up as much as possible, with something
spoon like, remove more with old newspaper, then work a goodly amount
of neat washing up liquid into the remains and leave. Letting the
rain wash it away over time. Works well for engine oil spots on
concrete.

If that failed after a week or three, pressure washer time.

A gas weed burner might do it for a small area couple of square feet
tops, the flame isn't very big. For larger area a gas torch on felt
type burner or a Sheen x300 paraffin woukd be more suitable. Can't
decide if the heat will damage the concrete surface more than a
pressure washer at point blank range.


I was thinking drop some diesel on it & light it....


I thought diesel was quite difficult to ignite. My Aussie cousin came
up with a less dramatic suggestion - just to turn the paving stone
upside down.


You said 'some sort of concrete' originally though. Inverting affected
paving slabs would only work if they were laid on soil without any
mortar (or used a weak-mix mortar that can be removed), and also if
the underside has the same texture/pattern as the top, which not all do
and UV light will have affected all the others but not the underside
of the paint-stained one.


Yes, I was not sure what it was at the time of writing. I thought the
underside might be different too.

Dave Liquorice[_2_] June 27th 20 01:34 PM

Paint removal
 
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 08:14:20 +0100 (GMT+01:00), Jimk wrote:

A gas weed burner might do it for a small area couple of square

feet
tops, the flame isn't very big. For larger area a gas torch on

felt
type burner or a Sheen x300 paraffin woukd be more suitable. Can't
decide if the heat will damage the concrete surface more than a
pressure washer at point blank range.


I was thinking drop some diesel on it & light it....


You'd still need the weed burner to get the diesel going...

If there is something to act as a wick, parrafin would burn but not
hot enough over an area to do much to the paint.

Petrol, don't go there.

--
Cheers
Dave.




Jimk June 27th 20 02:02 PM

Paint removal
 
"Dave Liquorice" Wrote in message:
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 08:14:20 +0100 (GMT+01:00), Jimk wrote:

A gas weed burner might do it for a small area couple of square

feet
tops, the flame isn't very big. For larger area a gas torch on

felt
type burner or a Sheen x300 paraffin woukd be more suitable. Can't
decide if the heat will damage the concrete surface more than a
pressure washer at point blank range.


I was thinking drop some diesel on it & light it....


You'd still need the weed burner to get the diesel going...

If there is something to act as a wick, parrafin would burn but not
hot enough over an area to do much to the paint.

Petrol, don't go there.


Mmm.

Napalm?
--
Jimk


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
http://usenet.sinaapp.com/

Andrew[_22_] June 27th 20 08:26 PM

Paint removal
 
On 27/06/2020 12:42, Scott wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 12:16:59 +0100, Andrew
wrote:

On 27/06/2020 10:10, Scott wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 08:14:20 +0100 (GMT+01:00), Jimk
wrote:

"Dave Liquorice" Wrote in message:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 17:51:16 +0100, Scott wrote:

I dropped a tin of paint this afternoon. Fortunately this occurred
outside. The paint is oil-based primer (red oxide). The surface is
some sort of concrete. How am I supposed to remove this?

If hasn't dried I'd collect up as much as possible, with something
spoon like, remove more with old newspaper, then work a goodly amount
of neat washing up liquid into the remains and leave. Letting the
rain wash it away over time. Works well for engine oil spots on
concrete.

If that failed after a week or three, pressure washer time.

A gas weed burner might do it for a small area couple of square feet
tops, the flame isn't very big. For larger area a gas torch on felt
type burner or a Sheen x300 paraffin woukd be more suitable. Can't
decide if the heat will damage the concrete surface more than a
pressure washer at point blank range.


I was thinking drop some diesel on it & light it....

I thought diesel was quite difficult to ignite. My Aussie cousin came
up with a less dramatic suggestion - just to turn the paving stone
upside down.


You said 'some sort of concrete' originally though. Inverting affected
paving slabs would only work if they were laid on soil without any
mortar (or used a weak-mix mortar that can be removed), and also if
the underside has the same texture/pattern as the top, which not all do
and UV light will have affected all the others but not the underside
of the paint-stained one.


Yes, I was not sure what it was at the time of writing. I thought the
underside might be different too.


Could you reposition it somewhere out of view, nearer to the edge of
the patio or whatever ?, and substitute it for an undamaged one ?.

newshound June 27th 20 09:58 PM

Paint removal
 
On 27/06/2020 14:00, Jimk wrote:
"Dave Liquorice" Wrote in message:
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 08:14:20 +0100 (GMT+01:00), Jimk wrote:

A gas weed burner might do it for a small area couple of square

feet
tops, the flame isn't very big. For larger area a gas torch on

felt
type burner or a Sheen x300 paraffin woukd be more suitable. Can't
decide if the heat will damage the concrete surface more than a
pressure washer at point blank range.

I was thinking drop some diesel on it & light it....


You'd still need the weed burner to get the diesel going...

If there is something to act as a wick, parrafin would burn but not
hot enough over an area to do much to the paint.

Petrol, don't go there.


Mmm.

Napalm?

Burning the resin (which will be difficult) is just going to leave the
red iron oxide pigment stuck in the roughness, but now bonded with tarry
material. A bit like chip pan residue.

Pressure washer and time.

Scott[_17_] June 28th 20 10:45 AM

Paint removal
 
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 20:26:11 +0100, Andrew
wrote:

On 27/06/2020 12:42, Scott wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 12:16:59 +0100, Andrew
wrote:

On 27/06/2020 10:10, Scott wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 08:14:20 +0100 (GMT+01:00), Jimk
wrote:

"Dave Liquorice" Wrote in message:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 17:51:16 +0100, Scott wrote:

I dropped a tin of paint this afternoon. Fortunately this occurred
outside. The paint is oil-based primer (red oxide). The surface is
some sort of concrete. How am I supposed to remove this?

If hasn't dried I'd collect up as much as possible, with something
spoon like, remove more with old newspaper, then work a goodly amount
of neat washing up liquid into the remains and leave. Letting the
rain wash it away over time. Works well for engine oil spots on
concrete.

If that failed after a week or three, pressure washer time.

A gas weed burner might do it for a small area couple of square feet
tops, the flame isn't very big. For larger area a gas torch on felt
type burner or a Sheen x300 paraffin woukd be more suitable. Can't
decide if the heat will damage the concrete surface more than a
pressure washer at point blank range.


I was thinking drop some diesel on it & light it....

I thought diesel was quite difficult to ignite. My Aussie cousin came
up with a less dramatic suggestion - just to turn the paving stone
upside down.


You said 'some sort of concrete' originally though. Inverting affected
paving slabs would only work if they were laid on soil without any
mortar (or used a weak-mix mortar that can be removed), and also if
the underside has the same texture/pattern as the top, which not all do
and UV light will have affected all the others but not the underside
of the paint-stained one.


Yes, I was not sure what it was at the time of writing. I thought the
underside might be different too.


Could you reposition it somewhere out of view, nearer to the edge of
the patio or whatever ?, and substitute it for an undamaged one ?.


That's an idea, or just get a new one if it's a standard size. It's
in the back garden, so there are various options., including
potentially removing it and planting a shrub as it's peripheral.


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:56 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 DIYbanter