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Hi all,

The wallpaper in the bedroom was put on top of a painted wall. When we removed the wallpaper it pulled off some of the paint back to the plaster. We want to now just paint the wall. What is the best way to deal with this? Should I used a watered down paint again where the plaster is exposed? Also how do we stop the line between the originally painted bit and the now plaster exposed bit from being seen when we paint the wall?

Thanks in advance

Lee.
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On 29/05/2020 21:48, Lee Nowell wrote:
Hi all,

The wallpaper in the bedroom was put on top of a painted wall. When
we removed the wallpaper it pulled off some of the paint back to the
plaster. We want to now just paint the wall. What is the best way to
deal with this? Should I used a watered down paint again where the
plaster is exposed? Also how do we stop the line between the
originally painted bit and the now plaster exposed bit from being
seen when we paint the wall?


You will find it very tedious to do other than reskim the entire wall
area. You could sand it all to about flat fill in any gaps and reseal
and paint. Then you will see every tiny piece of the old wallpaper that
was stuck to the wall as an imperfection in the now plain surface.

If you are prepared to keep at it you could do it by painting it and
then fixing the most offensive bumps and lumps. Expect to spend a long
time doing it though. It is very hard to go back to painted walls once
you have put wallpaper up. Sometimes the heavy anaglypta wallpaper which
is the very devil to remove was there to hide faults in the wall like
cracks and dodgy plaster.

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At our last house we removed some anaglypta from a wall to find the wall had been gloss painted and quite a bit of the paint came off with the paper. Rather than a complete plaster skim I opted for an application of dry wall filler applied with a float. I managed to get a reasonably smooth finish that required some sanding. You do need to apply a sealant which can be pricey and comes in 10 L drums but coving sealant is the same stuff and can be bought in smaller quantities. Afterwards paint as normal. Admittedly, it was only an 8 x 4 section but at the time if I had to do a full room I would have done it.

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On Fri, 29 May 2020 13:48:49 -0700 (PDT), Lee Nowell wrote:

Hi all,

The wallpaper in the bedroom was put on top of a painted wall. When we removed the wallpaper it pulled off some of the paint back to the plaster. We want to now just paint the wall. What is the best way to deal with this? Should I used a watered down paint again where the plaster is exposed? Also how do we stop the line between the originally painted bit and the now plaster exposed bit from being seen when we paint the wall?

Thanks in advance

Lee.


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On 30/05/2020 09:28, PeterC wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2020 13:48:49 -0700 (PDT), Lee Nowell wrote:

Hi all,

The wallpaper in the bedroom was put on top of a painted wall. When we removed the wallpaper it pulled off some of the paint back to the plaster. We want to now just paint the wall. What is the best way to deal with this? Should I used a watered down paint again where the plaster is exposed? Also how do we stop the line between the originally painted bit and the now plaster exposed bit from being seen when we paint the wall?

Thanks in advance

Lee.


Use a thick, good quality lining paper that'll cover the imperfections.

That would be my strategy too. It needs to be well soaked, and applied
carefully, but with practice you can make the joins invisible under a
single coat of emulsion.

If the original paint was gloss, or multiple layers of emulsion, it may
be worth sanding to feather the "steps".
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On 30/05/2020 09:28, PeterC wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2020 13:48:49 -0700 (PDT), Lee Nowell wrote:

Hi all,

The wallpaper in the bedroom was put on top of a painted wall. When we removed the wallpaper it pulled off some of the paint back to the plaster. We want to now just paint the wall. What is the best way to deal with this? Should I used a watered down paint again where the plaster is exposed? Also how do we stop the line between the originally painted bit and the now plaster exposed bit from being seen when we paint the wall?

Thanks in advance

Lee.


Use a thick, good quality lining paper that'll cover the imperfections.

I did that on a ceiling a couple of years ago, using the heaviest lining
paper I could get. Every time I walk into the room I grumble and regret
not having it skimmed because the dips are visible.

To the OP: get it skimmed.
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On 29/05/2020 21:48, Lee Nowell wrote:
Hi all,

The wallpaper in the bedroom was put on top of a painted wall. When
we removed the wallpaper it pulled off some of the paint back to the
plaster. We want to now just paint the wall. What is the best way to
deal with this? Should I used a watered down paint again where the
plaster is exposed? Also how do we stop the line between the
originally painted bit and the now plaster exposed bit from being
seen when we paint the wall?


You will find it very tedious to do other than reskim the entire wall
area. You could sand it all to about flat fill in any gaps and reseal
and paint. Then you will see every tiny piece of the old wallpaper that
was stuck to the wall as an imperfection in the now plain surface.


If you are prepared to keep at it you could do it by painting it and
then fixing the most offensive bumps and lumps. Expect to spend a long
time doing it though. It is very hard to go back to painted walls once
you have put wallpaper up. Sometimes the heavy anaglypta wallpaper which
is the very devil to remove was there to hide faults in the wall like
cracks and dodgy plaster.


yes. We've a lot of anaglypta. 1911 house.

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On 30/05/2020 09:28, PeterC wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2020 13:48:49 -0700 (PDT), Lee Nowell wrote:

Hi all,

The wallpaper in the bedroom was put on top of a painted wall. When we removed the wallpaper it pulled off some of the paint back to the plaster. We want to now just paint the wall. What is the best way to deal with this? Should I used a watered down paint again where the plaster is exposed? Also how do we stop the line between the originally painted bit and the now plaster exposed bit from being seen when we paint the wall?

Thanks in advance

Lee.


Use a thick, good quality lining paper that'll cover the imperfections.

I did that on a ceiling a couple of years ago, using the heaviest lining
paper I could get. Every time I walk into the room I grumble and regret
not having it skimmed because the dips are visible.

To the OP: get it skimmed.


Dips are a different matter and no superficial/small. My ceilings have
cracks between the boards, very difficult to hide as the trains vibrate the
house at times. OK, cracks aren't superficial but are small enogh to be
covered IICBA.
Most of the walls are bloody woodchip so lining paper wouldn't hide that
completely - I'd just accept it as a 'feature' because if I try to remove
the woodchip the whole wall will need to be skimmed.
Ceilings are the worst though. I had to make some holes, fitted board and
joined it OK then repainted. I had only matt white and the rest is satin. At
certain angles from uplight the matt looks grey.
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On 30/05/2020 14:48, PeterC wrote:
On Sat, 30 May 2020 10:34:32 +0100, wrote:

On 30/05/2020 09:28, PeterC wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2020 13:48:49 -0700 (PDT), Lee Nowell wrote:

Hi all,

The wallpaper in the bedroom was put on top of a painted wall. When we removed the wallpaper it pulled off some of the paint back to the plaster. We want to now just paint the wall. What is the best way to deal with this? Should I used a watered down paint again where the plaster is exposed? Also how do we stop the line between the originally painted bit and the now plaster exposed bit from being seen when we paint the wall?

Thanks in advance

Lee.

Use a thick, good quality lining paper that'll cover the imperfections.

I did that on a ceiling a couple of years ago, using the heaviest lining
paper I could get. Every time I walk into the room I grumble and regret
not having it skimmed because the dips are visible.

To the OP: get it skimmed.


Dips are a different matter and no superficial/small. My ceilings have
cracks between the boards, very difficult to hide as the trains vibrate the
house at times. OK, cracks aren't superficial but are small enogh to be
covered IICBA.
Most of the walls are bloody woodchip so lining paper wouldn't hide that
completely - I'd just accept it as a 'feature' because if I try to remove
the woodchip the whole wall will need to be skimmed.
Ceilings are the worst though. I had to make some holes, fitted board and
joined it OK then repainted. I had only matt white and the rest is satin. At
certain angles from uplight the matt looks grey.

In this case a previous owner had used embossed paper on the ceiling,
when I stripped it some of the original 1930s paint (shiny, and nicotine
coloured) came off. I tried to feather the edges but really really
really should have had it all skimmed or over-boarded. We live and learn.


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On 30/05/2020 09:28, PeterC wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2020 13:48:49 -0700 (PDT), Lee Nowell wrote:

Hi all,

The wallpaper in the bedroom was put on top of a painted wall. When we removed the wallpaper it pulled off some of the paint back to the plaster. We want to now just paint the wall. What is the best way to deal with this? Should I used a watered down paint again where the plaster is exposed? Also how do we stop the line between the originally painted bit and the now plaster exposed bit from being seen when we paint the wall?

Thanks in advance

Lee.


Use a thick, good quality lining paper that'll cover the imperfections.


Agreed - I have done up over ten houses - your only solution other than
skimming the walls.

It will look terrible if you simply paint over.

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On 30/05/2020 17:30, JoeJoe wrote:
On 30/05/2020 09:28, PeterC wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2020 13:48:49 -0700 (PDT), Lee Nowell wrote:

Hi all,

The wallpaper in the bedroom was put on top of a painted wall. When
we removed the wallpaper it pulled off some of the paint back to the
plaster. We want to now just paint the wall.Â* What is the best way to
deal with this? Should I used a watered down paint again where the
plaster is exposed? Also how do we stop the line between the
originally painted bit and the now plaster exposed bit from being
seen when we paint the wall?

Thanks in advance

Lee.


Use a thick, good quality lining paper that'll cover the imperfections.


Agreed - I have done up over ten houses - your only solution other than
skimming the walls.

It will look terrible if you simply paint over.


PS: I stopped using lining paper a long time ago - a lot of work to get
it perfect. Now I always skim and paint over.

You'll be surprised how inexpensive skimming can be. Find a good
plasterer and buy and bring all the bags of plaster yourself - they cost
next to nothing, and then just pay him his daily rate.
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On 30/05/2020 09:28, PeterC wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2020 13:48:49 -0700 (PDT), Lee Nowell wrote:

Hi all,

The wallpaper in the bedroom was put on top of a painted wall. When we removed the wallpaper it pulled off some of the paint back to the plaster. We want to now just paint the wall. What is the best way to deal with this? Should I used a watered down paint again where the plaster is exposed? Also how do we stop the line between the originally painted bit and the now plaster exposed bit from being seen when we paint the wall?

Thanks in advance

Lee.


Use a thick, good quality lining paper that'll cover the imperfections.


Use fine wet and dry, with water to feather-edge the edges of the paint.

They might continue to flake after the water has dryed, so you could
try and remove the rest of the paint with a decent flat blade
scraper. I had to do the party wall where the stairs go up after
removing vinyl-silk painted woodchip..
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On 30/05/2020 17:33, JoeJoe wrote:
On 30/05/2020 17:30, JoeJoe wrote:
On 30/05/2020 09:28, PeterC wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2020 13:48:49 -0700 (PDT), Lee Nowell wrote:

Hi all,

The wallpaper in the bedroom was put on top of a painted wall. When
we removed the wallpaper it pulled off some of the paint back to the
plaster. We want to now just paint the wall.Â* What is the best way
to deal with this? Should I used a watered down paint again where
the plaster is exposed? Also how do we stop the line between the
originally painted bit and the now plaster exposed bit from being
seen when we paint the wall?

Thanks in advance

Lee.

Use a thick, good quality lining paper that'll cover the imperfections.


Agreed - I have done up over ten houses - your only solution other
than skimming the walls.

It will look terrible if you simply paint over.


PS: I stopped using lining paper a long time ago - a lot of work to get
it perfect. Now I always skim and paint over.

You'll be surprised how inexpensive skimming can be. Find a good
plasterer and buy and bring all the bags of plaster yourself - they cost
next to nothing, and then just pay him his daily rate.


is this a joke ?. Good plasterers know how much they are worth,
especially in the South, South east
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At our last house we removed some anaglypta from a wall to find the wall had been gloss painted and quite a bit of the paint came off with the paper. Rather than a complete plaster skim I opted for an application of dry wall filler applied with a float. I managed to get a reasonably smooth finish that required some sanding. You do need to apply a sealant which can be pricey and comes in 10 L drums but coving sealant is the same stuff and can be bought in smaller quantities. Afterwards paint as normal. Admittedly, it was only an 8? x 4? section but at the time if I had to do a full room I would have done it.

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