Our freezer has packed in and I've just thrown out the contents.

It's a 50cm wide 'under the counter' Bush freezer kept in the cellar.
Previously, it was very little used - peas, ice, occasional ice cream
and for chilling wine. A few weeks ago I filled it with junk stuff for
lockdown, and it was certainly working two weeks ago. It's only three
years old.

Plugtop fuse is fine as is power socket but there's no current drawn.

Normally, for the sake of £130 I'd just get another, but Argos aren't
delivering. Maybe somewhere else is?

What's the most likely problem? It's a very simple device, no
electronics, no lights or manual switches, just a thermostat control.

I was almost looking forward to the frozen junk food.

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Cheers
Clive

On 10/04/2020 20:04:25, Clive Arthur wrote:
Our freezer has packed in and I've just thrown out the contents.

It's a 50cm wide 'under the counter' Bush freezer kept in the cellar.
Previously, it was very little used - peas, ice, occasional ice cream
and for chilling wine.Â* A few weeks ago I filled it with junk stuff for
lockdown, and it was certainly working two weeks ago.Â* It's only three
years old.

Plugtop fuse is fine as is power socket but there's no current drawn.

Normally, for the sake of £130 I'd just get another, but Argos aren't
delivering.Â* Maybe somewhere else is?

What's the most likely problem?Â* It's a very simple device, no
electronics, no lights or manual switches, just a thermostat control.

I was almost looking forward to the frozen junk food.

Can you hear anything running? Is the motor hot?

If neither, then could be o/c motor to failed thermostat or failed
switch. Many have motor protection which could also have failed.

In short, could be anything without more info.

On 10/04/2020 20:04, Clive Arthur wrote:
Our freezer has packed in and I've just thrown out the contents.

It's a 50cm wide 'under the counter' Bush freezer kept in the cellar.
Previously, it was very little used - peas, ice, occasional ice cream
and for chilling wine.Â* A few weeks ago I filled it with junk stuff for
lockdown, and it was certainly working two weeks ago.Â* It's only three
years old.

Plugtop fuse is fine as is power socket but there's no current drawn.

Normally, for the sake of £130 I'd just get another, but Argos aren't
delivering.Â* Maybe somewhere else is?

What's the most likely problem?Â* It's a very simple device, no
electronics, no lights or manual switches, just a thermostat control.

I was almost looking forward to the frozen junk food.



Try ao.com

BUT they will only deliver, or collect old appliances, to/from the door
step - they currently will not enter the house.

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alan_m wrote:

Try ao.com

BUT they will only deliver, or collect old appliances, to/from the door
step - they currently will not enter the house.

As long as Clive isn't self-isolating, they will take it inside the
front door, or into the kitchen if it's a big american F/F




"If youre self-isolating then were now only able to deliver products
to your doorstep. Otherwise, well come into your home but only deliver
to behind your main door. There are some exceptions €“ if you select our
installation service, well still deliver American Fridge Freezers and
cooking products to any room"

On 10/04/2020 20:26, alan_m wrote:
On 10/04/2020 20:04, Clive Arthur wrote:
Our freezer has packed in and I've just thrown out the contents.

It's a 50cm wide 'under the counter' Bush freezer kept in the cellar.
Previously, it was very little used - peas, ice, occasional ice cream
and for chilling wine.Â* A few weeks ago I filled it with junk stuff
for lockdown, and it was certainly working two weeks ago.Â* It's only
three years old.

Plugtop fuse is fine as is power socket but there's no current drawn.

Normally, for the sake of £130 I'd just get another, but Argos aren't
delivering.Â* Maybe somewhere else is?

What's the most likely problem?Â* It's a very simple device, no
electronics, no lights or manual switches, just a thermostat control.

I was almost looking forward to the frozen junk food.



Try ao.com

BUT they will only deliver, or collect old appliances, to/from the door
step - they currently will not enter the house.

Also have most of their range of freezers out of stock when I looked the
other day.


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Well if its not actually switching on, I guess the motor or the thermostat?
If its really that simple.
Brian

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Our freezer has packed in and I've just thrown out the contents.

It's a 50cm wide 'under the counter' Bush freezer kept in the cellar.
Previously, it was very little used - peas, ice, occasional ice cream and
for chilling wine. A few weeks ago I filled it with junk stuff for
lockdown, and it was certainly working two weeks ago. It's only three
years old.

Plugtop fuse is fine as is power socket but there's no current drawn.

Normally, for the sake of £130 I'd just get another, but Argos aren't
delivering. Maybe somewhere else is?

What's the most likely problem? It's a very simple device, no
electronics, no lights or manual switches, just a thermostat control.

I was almost looking forward to the frozen junk food.

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Cheers
Clive

On Friday, 10 April 2020 20:04:30 UTC+1, Clive Arthur wrote:
Our freezer has packed in and I've just thrown out the contents.

It's a 50cm wide 'under the counter' Bush freezer kept in the cellar.
Previously, it was very little used - peas, ice, occasional ice cream
and for chilling wine. A few weeks ago I filled it with junk stuff for
lockdown, and it was certainly working two weeks ago. It's only three
years old.

Plugtop fuse is fine as is power socket but there's no current drawn.

Normally, for the sake of £130 I'd just get another, but Argos aren't
delivering. Maybe somewhere else is?

What's the most likely problem? It's a very simple device, no
electronics, no lights or manual switches, just a thermostat control.

I was almost looking forward to the frozen junk food.

Could be the stat, wiring or compressor. You need a multimeter really, but could trace the problem using a torch to test for conductivity.


NT

wrote:
On Friday, 10 April 2020 20:04:30 UTC+1, Clive Arthur wrote:
Our freezer has packed in and I've just thrown out the contents.

It's a 50cm wide 'under the counter' Bush freezer kept in the cellar.
Previously, it was very little used - peas, ice, occasional ice cream
and for chilling wine. A few weeks ago I filled it with junk stuff
for lockdown, and it was certainly working two weeks ago. It's only
three years old.

Plugtop fuse is fine as is power socket but there's no current drawn.

Normally, for the sake of £130 I'd just get another, but Argos aren't
delivering. Maybe somewhere else is?

What's the most likely problem? It's a very simple device, no
electronics, no lights or manual switches, just a thermostat control.

I was almost looking forward to the frozen junk food.

Could be the stat, wiring or compressor. You need a multimeter
really, but could trace the problem using a torch to test for
conductivity.


NT

With it plugged in, put your hand on the compressor. If it is hot the
problem is almost certainly a refrigerant leak and is beyond repair. If it
is cold, stat which is unlikely or no power going to it.
Three years old is just not good enough! You will have a case under the
Sales Of Goods act or whatever it is called now. Trouble is that they may
insist on an engineers report which you may have to pay for. I think you get
refunded if the appliance is proved to be faulty. Catch 22.

Clive Arthur wrote:
Our freezer has packed in and I've just thrown out the contents.

It's a 50cm wide 'under the counter' Bush freezer kept in the cellar.
Previously, it was very little used - peas, ice, occasional ice cream
and for chilling wine. A few weeks ago I filled it with junk stuff for
lockdown, and it was certainly working two weeks ago. It's only three
years old.

Plugtop fuse is fine as is power socket but there's no current drawn.

Normally, for the sake of £130 I'd just get another, but Argos aren't
delivering. Maybe somewhere else is?

What's the most likely problem? It's a very simple device, no
electronics, no lights or manual switches, just a thermostat control.

I was almost looking forward to the frozen junk food.


The fault could be anything from the sensor to the compressor, including
the starter circuitry. Although the motor side of compressors seem
reliable. It could be as simple as a €˜dry joint , a poke around wouldnt
do any harm if you turn the power off an feel able.


As for suppliers, try John Lewis.

Also, as the cellar is probably unheated, check what ever you buy is
suitable for use in unheated areas. The John Lewis one we bought is, as is
the one middle daughter bought. From memory they come with a longer
guarantee and price is no more than other shops.

Weve used Currys in the past- our previous chest freezer came from them.
It lasted 20+ years, no complaints. Cheap and cheerful. Weve used them
since for other things, delivery seems reliable but they do try to sell
their warranties- even when the product has a 5 year warranty.




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On 10/04/2020 20:04, Clive Arthur wrote:
Our freezer has packed in and I've just thrown out the contents.

It's a 50cm wide 'under the counter' Bush freezer kept in the cellar.
Previously, it was very little used - peas, ice, occasional ice cream
and for chilling wine.Â* A few weeks ago I filled it with junk stuff for
lockdown, and it was certainly working two weeks ago.Â* It's only three
years old.


https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/10/hamst...anic-12375578/

snip

On 11/04/2020 08:20, wrote:
On Friday, 10 April 2020 20:04:30 UTC+1, Clive Arthur wrote:
Our freezer has packed in and I've just thrown out the contents.

It's a 50cm wide 'under the counter' Bush freezer kept in the cellar.
Previously, it was very little used - peas, ice, occasional ice cream
and for chilling wine. A few weeks ago I filled it with junk stuff for
lockdown, and it was certainly working two weeks ago. It's only three
years old.

Plugtop fuse is fine as is power socket but there's no current drawn.

Normally, for the sake of £130 I'd just get another, but Argos aren't
delivering. Maybe somewhere else is?

What's the most likely problem? It's a very simple device, no
electronics, no lights or manual switches, just a thermostat control.

I was almost looking forward to the frozen junk food.

Could be the stat, wiring or compressor. You need a multimeter really, but could trace the problem using a torch to test for conductivity.


NT


Did a Hamster tip it on its side while your back was turned ?.

On 10/04/2020 20:23, Fredxx wrote:
On 10/04/2020 20:04:25, Clive Arthur wrote:
Our freezer has packed in and I've just thrown out the contents.

It's a 50cm wide 'under the counter' Bush freezer kept in the cellar.
Previously, it was very little used - peas, ice, occasional ice cream
and for chilling wine.Â* A few weeks ago I filled it with junk stuff
for lockdown, and it was certainly working two weeks ago.Â* It's only
three years old.

Plugtop fuse is fine as is power socket but there's no current drawn.

Normally, for the sake of £130 I'd just get another, but Argos aren't
delivering.Â* Maybe somewhere else is?

What's the most likely problem?Â* It's a very simple device, no
electronics, no lights or manual switches, just a thermostat control.

I was almost looking forward to the frozen junk food.

Can you hear anything running? Is the motor hot?

If neither, then could be o/c motor to failed thermostat or failed
switch. Many have motor protection which could also have failed.

In short, could be anything without more info.

Thanks, I was hoping that there might be a common fault. It's taking no
current (so nothing getting warm or making noises), so a switch
(including thermostat) is a best guess.

I'll take another look.

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Cheers
Clive

On 11/04/2020 14:06, Clive Arthur wrote:

Thanks, I was hoping that there might be a common fault.Â* It's taking no
current (so nothing getting warm or making noises), so a switch
(including thermostat) is a best guess.

I'll take another look.

In fact it does take current, quite a lot. After plugging in it takes
about 2.8A but nothing runs, then after a few seconds there's a faint
click and the current drops to zero.

So I'm thinking the motor protection switch is doing its job, and maybe
the motor is seized, or maybe the motor capacitor is faradically challenged.

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Cheers
Clive

Clive Arthur wrote:
On 11/04/2020 14:06, Clive Arthur wrote:

Thanks, I was hoping that there might be a common fault. It's taking
no current (so nothing getting warm or making noises), so a switch
(including thermostat) is a best guess.

I'll take another look.

In fact it does take current, quite a lot. After plugging in it takes
about 2.8A but nothing runs, then after a few seconds there's a faint
click and the current drops to zero.

So I'm thinking the motor protection switch is doing its job, and
maybe the motor is seized, or maybe the motor capacitor is faradically
challenged.

In a past life I used to repair them. Sorry to say this - it's knackered.

On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 20:04:25 +0100, Clive Arthur
wrote:

snip

A few weeks ago I filled it with junk stuff for
lockdown, and it was certainly working two weeks ago.

We didn't do that because I was concerned there might be power cuts,
so bought a few more tinned / dried foods instead.

I was almost looking forward to the frozen junk food.

Was nothing saved? Some stuff would have lasted for some time in the
fridge once defrosted?

Cheers, T i m

On 11/04/2020 17:06:34, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 11/04/2020 14:06, Clive Arthur wrote:

Thanks, I was hoping that there might be a common fault.Â* It's taking
no current (so nothing getting warm or making noises), so a switch
(including thermostat) is a best guess.

I'll take another look.

In fact it does take current, quite a lot.Â* After plugging in it takes
about 2.8A but nothing runs, then after a few seconds there's a faint
click and the current drops to zero.

So I'm thinking the motor protection switch is doing its job, and maybe
the motor is seized, or maybe the motor capacitor is faradically
challenged.

If you can find one externally I would remove and measure. They're not
expensive to replace.

On the other hand I don't recall seeing one on a freezer?

On 11/04/2020 18:03, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Clive Arthur wrote:
On 11/04/2020 14:06, Clive Arthur wrote:

Thanks, I was hoping that there might be a common fault. It's taking
no current (so nothing getting warm or making noises), so a switch
(including thermostat) is a best guess.

I'll take another look.

In fact it does take current, quite a lot. After plugging in it takes
about 2.8A but nothing runs, then after a few seconds there's a faint
click and the current drops to zero.

So I'm thinking the motor protection switch is doing its job, and
maybe the motor is seized, or maybe the motor capacitor is faradically
challenged.

In a past life I used to repair them. Sorry to say this - it's knackered.

I so happens I have some 1.5uF 1.3kV polysomething caps, so I replaced
the 3uF motor cap just to see.

Your diagnosis is correct.

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Cheers
Clive

On 11/04/2020 18:10, T i m wrote:
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 20:04:25 +0100, Clive Arthur
wrote:

snip

A few weeks ago I filled it with junk stuff for
lockdown, and it was certainly working two weeks ago.

We didn't do that because I was concerned there might be power cuts,
so bought a few more tinned / dried foods instead.

I was almost looking forward to the frozen junk food.

Was nothing saved? Some stuff would have lasted for some time in the
fridge once defrosted?

Cheers, T i m

No it was all mush. We rarely use it and it's in the cellar so didn't
notice.

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Cheers
Clive

On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 18:41:19 +0100, Clive Arthur
wrote:

On 11/04/2020 18:10, T i m wrote:
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 20:04:25 +0100, Clive Arthur
wrote:

snip

A few weeks ago I filled it with junk stuff for
lockdown, and it was certainly working two weeks ago.

We didn't do that because I was concerned there might be power cuts,
so bought a few more tinned / dried foods instead.

I was almost looking forward to the frozen junk food.

Was nothing saved? Some stuff would have lasted for some time in the
fridge once defrosted?


No it was all mush.

Shame. Food recycling then.?

We rarely use it and it's in the cellar so didn't
notice.

Time for a freezer alarm project methinks. ;-)

Cheers, T i m