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DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
Back in the day I worked from DIY manuals, including a very good Readers
Digest one. We are talking 1970s though. These days most of the advice seems to be YouTube videos and websites. Are there any real paper DIY manuals which are both good and current? Cheers Dave R -- AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 7 Pro x64 -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
On 12/03/2020 09:53, David wrote:
Back in the day I worked from DIY manuals, including a very good Readers Digest one. We are talking 1970s though. These days most of the advice seems to be YouTube videos and websites. Are there any real paper DIY manuals which are both good and current? Cheers Dave R stuff that you can't beat a good youtube video .. |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
On Thursday, 12 March 2020 09:57:19 UTC, Jim Stewart wrote:
On 12/03/2020 09:53, David wrote: Back in the day I worked from DIY manuals, including a very good Readers Digest one. We are talking 1970s though. These days most of the advice seems to be YouTube videos and websites. Are there any real paper DIY manuals which are both good and current? Cheers Dave R stuff that you can't beat a good youtube video .. +1. The availability of so many viewpoints & assumption levels makes videos far better, though some like to waste 10 minutes presenting 1 minute of info. FWIW that 70s reader's digest one still pops up for sale on occasion, much of it very out of date but some is still good. IIRC it includes how to change a gramophone idler wheel & zero risk assessments. NT |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
On Thursday, 12 March 2020 09:53:52 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote:
Back in the day I worked from DIY manuals, including a very good Readers Digest one. We are talking 1970s though. Are there any real paper DIY manuals which are both good and current? As I live in a 1960s/70s flat, the Readers Digest and similar *are* current to me :-) Owain |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
On 12/03/2020 09:57, Jim Stewart wrote:
With a printed DIY manual it's often like the Haynes manuals for car mechanics where you need a translation. http://messybeast.com/dragonqueen/real-haynes.htm With a decent Youtube video, especially from a professional or company demonstrating the a product, you get real world instructions. Obviously common sense must be applied to weed out the crap and to realise that perfectly vertical walls, 90 degree corners and level ceilings shown in demonstrations usually don't exist in older properties. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
On Thursday, 12 March 2020 09:53:52 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote:
Back in the day I worked from DIY manuals, including a very good Readers Digest one. We are talking 1970s though. Is my memory playing tricks or did one vintage of this manual show you how cover a panelled interior door with plywood (or quite possibly hardboard), while a later vintage told you how to restore a door that had had such an atrocity perpetrated on it? |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
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David wrote: Back in the day I worked from DIY manuals, including a very good Readers Digest one. We are talking 1970s though. These days most of the advice seems to be YouTube videos and websites. Are there any real paper DIY manuals which are both good and current? Pretty well all the basics of DIY ain't changed much. Sure there are more power tools around to assist with things, but that's about all. DIY books only ever covered the basics of things like plumbing and electrics anyway - and they are still the same. -- *A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
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On Thursday, 12 March 2020 09:53:52 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote: Back in the day I worked from DIY manuals, including a very good Readers Digest one. We are talking 1970s though. Are there any real paper DIY manuals which are both good and current? As I live in a 1960s/70s flat, the Readers Digest and similar *are* current to me :-) :-) I still have my RD manual. In its time it came in very useful. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK @ChrisJDixon1 Plant amazing Acers. |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
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Chris J Dixon wrote: wrote: On Thursday, 12 March 2020 09:53:52 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote: Back in the day I worked from DIY manuals, including a very good Readers Digest one. We are talking 1970s though. Are there any real paper DIY manuals which are both good and current? As I live in a 1960s/70s flat, the Readers Digest and similar *are* current to me :-) :-) I still have my RD manual. In its time it came in very useful. It did indeed. If nothing else, persuading you to have a go. It's how you learn, after all. -- *Is there another word for synonym? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
On Thursday, 12 March 2020 15:07:28 UTC, wrote:
Is my memory playing tricks or did one vintage of this manual show you how cover a panelled interior door with plywood (or quite possibly hardboard), while a later vintage told you how to restore a door that had had such an atrocity perpetrated on it? I think it was the DIY magazines that went wild with abandon telling you how to build your own bedroom furniture out of asbestos sheeting, etc. Hardboarding interior doors probably saved thousands from the skip in the 60s and 70s Owain |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
David wrote
Back in the day I worked from DIY manuals, including a very good Readers Digest one. We are talking 1970s though. These days most of the advice seems to be YouTube videos and websites. Are there any real paper DIY manuals which are both good and current? No idea, I find YouTube videos and websites much better and much more likely to be specific to the problem you have. For example there is some problem with the windscreen washer bottle in my car and its in the wheel arch behind the cover panels with no obvious way to get it out. There us however a very decent youtube video showing you how to get it out easily. No paper DIY manual will have that. |
Lonely Auto-contradicting Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL
On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 05:15:43 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: No idea, Right, but you will blather away anyway, you senile piece of ****! -- Marland addressing senile Rodent's tall stories: "Do you really think people believe your stories you come up with to boost your self esteem." Message-ID: |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
wrote in message ... On Thursday, 12 March 2020 09:57:19 UTC, Jim Stewart wrote: On 12/03/2020 09:53, David wrote: Back in the day I worked from DIY manuals, including a very good Readers Digest one. We are talking 1970s though. These days most of the advice seems to be YouTube videos and websites. Are there any real paper DIY manuals which are both good and current? Cheers Dave R stuff that you can't beat a good youtube video .. +1. The availability of so many viewpoints & assumption levels makes videos far better, though some like to waste 10 minutes presenting 1 minute of info. Yeah, it certainly makes it clear how skilled the professional presenters are when you see the worst of what some amateurs can do. FWIW that 70s reader's digest one still pops up for sale on occasion, Yep. much of it very out of date Yeah, no mention of the rivnuts so common in cars now. but some is still good. IIRC it includes how to change a gramophone idler wheel & zero risk assessments. |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
You can if you are blind.I despair on the computer sort your own computer
problems one with as you can see on this screen simply click on...... Same goes for diy, but the older books tended to have descriptive words not just pictures, so you could scan them and get the basic idea, now, no way. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Jim Stewart" wrote in message ... On 12/03/2020 09:53, David wrote: Back in the day I worked from DIY manuals, including a very good Readers Digest one. We are talking 1970s though. These days most of the advice seems to be YouTube videos and websites. Are there any real paper DIY manuals which are both good and current? Cheers Dave R stuff that you can't beat a good youtube video .. |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
"Theo" wrote in message ... wrote: +1. The availability of so many viewpoints & assumption levels makes videos far better, though some like to waste 10 minutes presenting 1 minute of info. FWIW that 70s reader's digest one still pops up for sale on occasion, much of it very out of date but some is still good. IIRC it includes how to change a gramophone idler wheel & zero risk assessments. Grew up with the Readers Digest one, which we still have somewhere. What might be more useful these days is an overview book - it might not tell you exactly how to do a specific job, but sets out the basic principles and the options - you could do A or B or C, which have the following benefits and tradeoffs. Makes more sense to have that online as a diy wikipedia. Then you can go and look up a video or products for doing C when you've decided that's what you want. It would save time googling around, finding a vendor of B that omits to mention A and C, all the sites on A are talking about the USA, etc. The wiki is pretty good for that though :) Theo PS. I spotted a wiki knockoff the other day that doesn't have the right licence: https://www.aaelectricalservices.co....n-mains-cable/ http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Cables |
More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rodent Speed!
On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 07:13:32 +1100, John_j, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote: Makes more sense to have that online as a diy wikipedia. The ONLY thing that would make sense in your case would be if you swallowed your Nembutal, you useless 86-year-old cretin! What did you buy it for anyway? Or were you only trying to attract attention, you senile asshole troll? -- The Natural Philosopher about senile Rodent: "Rod speed is not a Brexiteer. He is an Australian troll and arsehole." Message-ID: |
Lonely Auto-contradicting Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL
On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 06:09:40 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Yeah, it certainly makes it clear how skilled the professional presenters are when you see the worst of what some amateurs can do. It certainly makes it clear that YOU got NO life outside the Net AT ALL, you clinically insane senile sociopathic swine! -- Marland answering senile Rodent's statement, "I don't leak": "That¢s because so much **** and ****e emanates from your gob that there is nothing left to exit normally, your arsehole has clammed shut through disuse and the end of prick is only clear because you are such a ******." Message-ID: |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
On Thursday, 12 March 2020 15:28:59 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , David wrote: Back in the day I worked from DIY manuals, including a very good Readers Digest one. We are talking 1970s though. These days most of the advice seems to be YouTube videos and websites. Are there any real paper DIY manuals which are both good and current? Pretty well all the basics of DIY ain't changed much. Sure there are more power tools around to assist with things, but that's about all. DIY books only ever covered the basics of things like plumbing and electrics anyway - and they are still the same. I leafed through a 1970s reader's digest diy manual late last year. It surprised me how much of it was truly out of date, and how plainly dangerous some of the advice was. NT |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
On Thursday, 12 March 2020 09:53:52 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote:
Back in the day I worked from DIY manuals, including a very good Readers Digest one. We are talking 1970s though. These days most of the advice seems to be YouTube videos and websites. Are there any real paper DIY manuals which are both good and current? DIY magazines seem to have vanished too. |
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alan_m wrote:
Slightly before my time but I believe that was down to a DIY expert on a TV program of the time. Barry Bucknell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RVnzu0COFU Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK @ChrisJDixon1 Plant amazing Acers. |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
"harry" wrote in message ... On Thursday, 12 March 2020 09:53:52 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote: Back in the day I worked from DIY manuals, including a very good Readers Digest one. We are talking 1970s though. These days most of the advice seems to be YouTube videos and websites. Are there any real paper DIY manuals which are both good and current? DIY magazines seem to have vanished too. So have those books. |
Lonely Auto-contradicting Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL
On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 19:58:00 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: So have those books. So, just have a few of your Nembutal pills, you useless senile trolling cretin! -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 86-year-old trolling senile cretin from Oz: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
On Thursday, 12 March 2020 15:07:28 UTC, wrote:
On Thursday, 12 March 2020 09:53:52 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote: Back in the day I worked from DIY manuals, including a very good Readers Digest one. We are talking 1970s though. Is my memory playing tricks or did one vintage of this manual show you how cover a panelled interior door with plywood (or quite possibly hardboard), Might be I remmerb my dad doing it, he also did the same to the stairs regarding covering up the banistars. while a later vintage told you how to restore a door that had had such an atrocity perpetrated on it? Well he never got around to that. |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
On Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:56:22 UTC, wrote:
On Thursday, 12 March 2020 15:07:28 UTC, wrote: Is my memory playing tricks or did one vintage of this manual show you how cover a panelled interior door with plywood (or quite possibly hardboard), while a later vintage told you how to restore a door that had had such an atrocity perpetrated on it? I think it was the DIY magazines that went wild with abandon telling you how to build your own bedroom furniture out of asbestos sheeting, etc. was that to protect you from the hot sex session you had after installing a mirror on the ceiling ;-) Hardboarding interior doors probably saved thousands from the skip in the 60s and 70s Owain |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
In article , David
writes Back in the day I worked from DIY manuals, including a very good Readers Digest one. We are talking 1970s though. These days most of the advice seems to be YouTube videos and websites. Are there any real paper DIY manuals which are both good and current? Cheers Dave R -- AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 7 Pro x64 Good god, yes. You've prompted me to getup and go look... and there it is up on the top shelve on the book case. -- bert |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 9:53:52 AM UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote:
Back in the day I worked from DIY manuals, I've just bought the Home Extension Haynes manual, they also have Piano Manual etc etc I've bought Insulate and Weatherize and several others from Taunton Books [g] |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
On 12/03/2020 09:53, David wrote:
Back in the day I worked from DIY manuals, including a very good Readers Digest one. We are talking 1970s though. These days most of the advice seems to be YouTube videos and websites. Are there any real paper DIY manuals which are both good and current? Cheers I've got the full bound set of "The Knack" sat here if you want some projects. |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
On Friday, 13 March 2020 08:26:43 UTC, alan_m wrote:
On 12/03/2020 15:07, wrote: On Thursday, 12 March 2020 09:53:52 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote: Back in the day I worked from DIY manuals, including a very good Readers Digest one. We are talking 1970s though. Is my memory playing tricks or did one vintage of this manual show you how cover a panelled interior door with plywood (or quite possibly hardboard), while a later vintage told you how to restore a door that had had such an atrocity perpetrated on it? Slightly before my time but I believe that was down to a DIY expert on a TV program of the time. My parents having purchased their first house covered all doors with hardboard and boxed in the stairs with the same. It was the "modern" 60s look. Barry Bucknell anyone............ |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
On 13/03/2020 08:26, alan_m wrote:
On 12/03/2020 15:07, wrote: On Thursday, 12 March 2020 09:53:52 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote: Back in the day I worked from DIY manuals, including a very good Readers Digest one. We are talking 1970s though. Is my memory playing tricks or did one vintage of this manual show you how cover a panelled interior door with plywood (or quite possibly hardboard), while a later vintage told you how to restore a door that had had such an atrocity perpetrated on it? Slightly before my time but I believe that was down to a DIY expert on a TV program of the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Bucknell My parents having purchased their first house covered all doors with hardboard and boxed in the stairs with the same. It was the "modern" 60s look. Which in one sense at least means they period features are preserved and can be uncovered later. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 14/03/2020 14:28, John Rumm wrote:
On 13/03/2020 08:26, alan_m wrote: On 12/03/2020 15:07, wrote: On Thursday, 12 March 2020 09:53:52 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote: Back in the day I worked from DIY manuals, including a very good Readers Digest one. We are talking 1970s though. Is my memory playing tricks or did one vintage of this manual show you how cover a panelled interior door with plywood (or quite possibly hardboard), while a later vintage told you how to restore a door that had had such an atrocity perpetrated on it? Slightly before my time but I believe that was down to a DIY expert on a TV program of the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Bucknell Also master of the spiral ratchet screwdriver. With flat blades. Obviously everything was pilot drilled *and* assembled beforehand. |
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On 14/03/2020 22:04, newshound wrote:
On 14/03/2020 14:28, John Rumm wrote: On 13/03/2020 08:26, alan_m wrote: On 12/03/2020 15:07, wrote: On Thursday, 12 March 2020 09:53:52 UTC, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote: Back in the day I worked from DIY manuals, including a very good Readers Digest one. We are talking 1970s though. Is my memory playing tricks or did one vintage of this manual show you how cover a panelled interior door with plywood (or quite possibly hardboard), while a later vintage told you how to restore a door that had had such an atrocity perpetrated on it? Slightly before my time but I believe that was down to a DIY expert on a TV program of the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Bucknell Also master of the spiral ratchet screwdriver. With flat blades. Obviously everything was pilot drilled *and* assembled beforehand. Yup, I don't recall seeing many of his programs (A bit before my time really), but the prowess with the Yankee driver did stick in my mind. I recall using one for the first time, and being a bit disappointed :-) But then, I had not appreciated then that for the TV shows all the holes were pre-drilled, and they had rehearsed the build first - so the screws already knew where they were going! -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
On Monday, 16 March 2020 01:29:12 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
On 14/03/2020 22:04, newshound wrote: On 14/03/2020 14:28, John Rumm wrote: On 13/03/2020 08:26, alan_m wrote: Slightly before my time but I believe that was down to a DIY expert on a TV program of the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Bucknell Also master of the spiral ratchet screwdriver. With flat blades. Obviously everything was pilot drilled *and* assembled beforehand. Yup, I don't recall seeing many of his programs (A bit before my time really), but the prowess with the Yankee driver did stick in my mind. I recall using one for the first time, and being a bit disappointed :-) But then, I had not appreciated then that for the TV shows all the holes were pre-drilled, and they had rehearsed the build first - so the screws already knew where they were going! Yankee screwdrivers are hopeless compared to even the cheapest cordless screwdriver. It's not just the terrible mechanism, the drill bit geometry was way off too. Plus any sort of powerered screwdriver doesn't work well in an era of mostly slotted screws. It was just better than nothing. NT |
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On 14/03/2020 14:28, John Rumm wrote:
Which in one sense at least means they period features are preserved and can be uncovered later. Isn't "period feature" just estate agent speak for junk that need modernisation? Not all period features are good and some are just a PITA when it comes to decorating. I was persuaded once to start stripping the heavily paint period stair spindles because the original bare wood would look nice. After stripping 3 it was evident that poor quality wood had been used and the spindles were nailed top and bottom with the large nail holes filled with a soft putty. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 16/03/2020 02:38, wrote:
Yankee screwdrivers are hopeless compared to even the cheapest cordless screwdriver. It's not just the terrible mechanism, the drill bit geometry was way off too. Plus any sort of powerered screwdriver doesn't work well in an era of mostly slotted screws. It was just better than nothing. Having used cordless drills in screwdriver mode for very many years I purchased a cordless impact driver. It's another tool I wish I had purchased earlier. Also first time use of some concrete screws that don't require raw plugs, just drill a 4mm pilot hole and wack them in with a impact driver. This was through a thick layer of 100 year old plaster and into brick. I'm not sure the cordless drill in the screwdriver mode would have had enough umph to fully tighten the concrete screw. https://www.screwfix.com/p/easydrive...100-pack/3560r I was impressed by how easy the impact driver coped with self drill metal screws. https://www.screwfix.com/p/easydrive...200-pack/5004h -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 16/03/2020 02:57, alan_m wrote:
On 14/03/2020 14:28, John Rumm wrote: Which in one sense at least means they period features are preserved and can be uncovered later. Isn't "period feature" just estate agent speak for junk that need modernisation? Not all period features are good and some are just a PITA when it comes to decorating. I was persuaded once to start stripping the heavily paint period stair spindles because the original bare wood would look nice. After stripping 3 it was evident that poor quality wood had been used and the spindles were nailed top and bottom with the large nail holes filled with a soft putty. Ah, the 'stripped pine' problem. If you are going to paint it you dont use top quality wood and you dont bother to blind fix. I keep telling people that pine was the 19th and early 20th century equivalent of MDF... -- The biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with what it actually is. |
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DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 5:56:22 PM UTC, wrote:
On Thursday, 12 March 2020 15:07:28 UTC, wrote: Is my memory playing tricks or did one vintage of this manual show you how cover a panelled interior door with plywood (or quite possibly hardboard), while a later vintage told you how to restore a door that had had such an atrocity perpetrated on it? I think it was the DIY magazines that went wild with abandon telling you how to build your own bedroom furniture out of asbestos sheeting, etc. Hardboarding interior doors probably saved thousands from the skip in the 60s and 70s I had a flat with all the doors panelled with hardboard and wooden trim tacked on. I decided to have them 'dipped and stripped' and set about removing the hardboard, only to find the moulding had been removed and bits of plasterboard had been fixed into each recessed panel. So that had to be stripped out as well (all this the evening before the doors were due to be collected), and then new moulding made up and fixed in place once the doors had been returned. Worth it in the end though, I think! -- Halmyre |
DIY manuals - are they still a thing?
has anybody else noticed that Haynes car manuals are rubbish these days?...
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