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Jim GM4DHJ ... March 10th 20 08:29 AM

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Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not ....

harry March 10th 20 08:32 AM

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On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 08:29:21 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not ....


If visible, it looks **** if they aren't.
The wall does have to be vertical

Jim GM4DHJ ... March 10th 20 08:38 AM

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On 10/03/2020 08:32, harry wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 08:29:21 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not ....


If visible, it looks **** if they aren't.
The wall does have to be vertical

but does it matter if the wall is to be harled ? ...

charles March 10th 20 09:44 AM

brickwork
 
In article ,
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not ....


If you mean horizontal, ideally yes, It looks better that way, generally.

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charles March 10th 20 09:45 AM

brickwork
 
In article ,
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 10/03/2020 08:32, harry wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 08:29:21 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not ....


If visible, it looks **** if they aren't.
The wall does have to be vertical

but does it matter if the wall is to be harled ? ...


the English won't know that word'

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The Natural Philosopher[_2_] March 10th 20 10:31 AM

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On 10/03/2020 09:44, charles wrote:
In article ,
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not ....


If you mean horizontal, ideally yes, It looks better that way, generally.

Unless you are building an arch, or something artistic...


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true: it is true because it is powerful."

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The Natural Philosopher[_2_] March 10th 20 10:32 AM

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On 10/03/2020 09:45, charles wrote:
In article ,
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 10/03/2020 08:32, harry wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 08:29:21 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not ....

If visible, it looks **** if they aren't.
The wall does have to be vertical

but does it matter if the wall is to be harled ? ...


the English won't know that word'

But we can look it up.


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true: it is true because it is powerful."

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Jim GM4DHJ ... March 10th 20 10:49 AM

brickwork
 
On 10/03/2020 09:45, charles wrote:
In article ,
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 10/03/2020 08:32, harry wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 08:29:21 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not ....

If visible, it looks **** if they aren't.
The wall does have to be vertical

but does it matter if the wall is to be harled ? ...


the English won't know that word'

that is why I used it...tee hee

Jim GM4DHJ ... March 10th 20 10:52 AM

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On 10/03/2020 10:32, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 10/03/2020 09:45, charles wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â* Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 10/03/2020 08:32, harry wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 08:29:21 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ...Â* wrote:
Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not ....

If visible, it looks **** if they aren't.
The wall does have to be vertical

but does it matter if the wall is to be harled ? ...


the English won't know that word'

But we can look it up.


and make yourselves look knowledgeable....

Tricky Dicky[_4_] March 10th 20 10:54 AM

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You can get brick, block and stone walls that follow the slope of the land and look OK but my preference is for a stepped wall with level courses. I think the essential thing is to get the courses in line if you are following the slope nothing looks more unaesthetic than courses with uneven mortar lines and bricks out of alignment with their neighbours.

Richard

Roger Hayter[_2_] March 10th 20 11:01 AM

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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 10/03/2020 09:44, charles wrote:
In article ,
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not ....


If you mean horizontal, ideally yes, It looks better that way, generally.

Unless you are building an arch, or something artistic...


I've seen old garden/estate walls built parallel to ground level,
following at least about one in twenty slopes. In a hilly part of the
country this probably would not work.


--

Roger Hayter

Dave Plowman (News) March 10th 20 11:07 AM

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In article ,
charles wrote:
In article ,
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 10/03/2020 08:32, harry wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 08:29:21 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not ....

If visible, it looks **** if they aren't.
The wall does have to be vertical

but does it matter if the wall is to be harled ? ...


the English won't know that word'


Makes some sense when you watch it being applied. ;-)

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Chris J Dixon March 10th 20 11:11 AM

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Roger Hayter wrote:

I've seen old garden/estate walls built parallel to ground level,
following at least about one in twenty slopes. In a hilly part of the
country this probably would not work.


Indeed so. The walled garden at Calke Abbey has a section
originally built like that, but later work has raised it and
those courses are tapered in to be (nearer) horizontal.

Chris
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@ChrisJDixon1

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Jim GM4DHJ ... March 10th 20 11:24 AM

brickwork
 
On 10/03/2020 11:01, Roger Hayter wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 10/03/2020 09:44, charles wrote:
In article ,
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not ....

If you mean horizontal, ideally yes, It looks better that way, generally.

Unless you are building an arch, or something artistic...


I've seen old garden/estate walls built parallel to ground level,
following at least about one in twenty slopes. In a hilly part of the
country this probably would not work.


thirty years ago we tried to condemn a wall that was up and down but we
couldn't find any regs or British standard or codes of practice to say
it wasn't OK so we left him to it and he roughcast it anyway...just
wondered what people thought ....

Jim GM4DHJ ... March 10th 20 11:25 AM

brickwork
 
On 10/03/2020 11:11, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Roger Hayter wrote:

I've seen old garden/estate walls built parallel to ground level,
following at least about one in twenty slopes. In a hilly part of the
country this probably would not work.


Indeed so. The walled garden at Calke Abbey has a section
originally built like that, but later work has raised it and
those courses are tapered in to be (nearer) horizontal.

Chris

I was thinking more of waving up and down rather than like you describe....

Roger Hayter[_2_] March 10th 20 11:35 AM

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Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

On 10/03/2020 11:01, Roger Hayter wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 10/03/2020 09:44, charles wrote:
In article ,
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not ....

If you mean horizontal, ideally yes, It looks better that way, generally.

Unless you are building an arch, or something artistic...


I've seen old garden/estate walls built parallel to ground level,
following at least about one in twenty slopes. In a hilly part of the
country this probably would not work.


thirty years ago we tried to condemn a wall that was up and down but we
couldn't find any regs or British standard or codes of practice to say
it wasn't OK so we left him to it and he roughcast it anyway...just
wondered what people thought ....


If someone built a house like that you might be able to condemn it on
some general rule like "looks likely to fall down", I would have
thought.


--

Roger Hayter

Roger Hayter[_2_] March 10th 20 11:42 AM

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Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

On 10/03/2020 11:11, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Roger Hayter wrote:

I've seen old garden/estate walls built parallel to ground level,
following at least about one in twenty slopes. In a hilly part of the
country this probably would not work.


Indeed so. The walled garden at Calke Abbey has a section
originally built like that, but later work has raised it and
those courses are tapered in to be (nearer) horizontal.

Chris

I was thinking more of waving up and down rather than like you describe....


You mean regardless of the lie of the land? That just sounds like poor
workmanship. Isn't there some rule about how thick a mortar bed can
safely be?


--

Roger Hayter

Rod Speed March 10th 20 02:23 PM

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Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote

Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...


Nope, most obviously with brick walls.

I think not ....


We've noticed that.

Peeler[_4_] March 10th 20 03:15 PM

UNBELIEVABLE: It's 0123 am in Australia and the Senile Ozzietard is out of Bed and TROLLING, already!!!! LOL
 
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 01:23:29 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH senile troll****

01:23??? AGAIN? ROTFLOL!

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John_j March 10th 20 03:28 PM

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"Roger Hayter" wrote in message
...
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

On 10/03/2020 11:01, Roger Hayter wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 10/03/2020 09:44, charles wrote:
In article ,
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not ....

If you mean horizontal, ideally yes, It looks better that way,
generally.

Unless you are building an arch, or something artistic...

I've seen old garden/estate walls built parallel to ground level,
following at least about one in twenty slopes. In a hilly part of the
country this probably would not work.


thirty years ago we tried to condemn a wall that was up and down but we
couldn't find any regs or British standard or codes of practice to say
it wasn't OK so we left him to it and he roughcast it anyway...just
wondered what people thought ....


If someone built a house like that you might be able to condemn it on
some general rule like "looks likely to fall down", I would have
thought.


You'd be wrong if it follows the lie of the land and the slope
isnt huge.


Peeler[_4_] March 10th 20 03:57 PM

UNBELIEVABLE: It's 02:286 am in Australia and the Senile Pest has been out of Bed and TROLLING for OVER AN HOUR already!!!! LOL
 
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 02:28:05 +1100, John_j, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

FLUSH senile asshole's troll****

02:28??? So your first hour of trolling is over already! Still another ten
or more hours of your lonely trolling ahead of you, eh, you clinically
insane senile asshole?

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Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\) March 10th 20 05:50 PM

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If you want to ask a question fine, but if you do for goodness sake include
context to the question or people will shove into their back corner of their
newsreaders where all the cobwebs and spiders live.
Brian

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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not ....




Jim GM4DHJ ... March 10th 20 06:46 PM

brickwork
 
On 10/03/2020 11:42, Roger Hayter wrote:
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

On 10/03/2020 11:11, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Roger Hayter wrote:

I've seen old garden/estate walls built parallel to ground level,
following at least about one in twenty slopes. In a hilly part of the
country this probably would not work.

Indeed so. The walled garden at Calke Abbey has a section
originally built like that, but later work has raised it and
those courses are tapered in to be (nearer) horizontal.

Chris

I was thinking more of waving up and down rather than like you describe....


You mean regardless of the lie of the land? That just sounds like poor
workmanship. Isn't there some rule about how thick a mortar bed can
safely be?


probably but nothing could be done....

Jim GM4DHJ ... March 10th 20 06:47 PM

brickwork
 
On 10/03/2020 11:35, Roger Hayter wrote:
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

On 10/03/2020 11:01, Roger Hayter wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 10/03/2020 09:44, charles wrote:
In article ,
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not ....

If you mean horizontal, ideally yes, It looks better that way, generally.

Unless you are building an arch, or something artistic...

I've seen old garden/estate walls built parallel to ground level,
following at least about one in twenty slopes. In a hilly part of the
country this probably would not work.


thirty years ago we tried to condemn a wall that was up and down but we
couldn't find any regs or British standard or codes of practice to say
it wasn't OK so we left him to it and he roughcast it anyway...just
wondered what people thought ....


If someone built a house like that you might be able to condemn it on
some general rule like "looks likely to fall down", I would have
thought.


can't do that kind of thing "looks likely" doesn't stand up in court .....

Jim GM4DHJ ... March 10th 20 06:48 PM

brickwork
 
On 10/03/2020 14:23, Rod Speed wrote:
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote
Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...


Nope, most obviously with brick walls.
I think not ....


We've noticed that.

good man

[email protected] March 10th 20 09:32 PM

brickwork
 
On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 18:47:52 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 10/03/2020 11:35, Roger Hayter wrote:
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 10/03/2020 11:01, Roger Hayter wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 10/03/2020 09:44, charles wrote:
In article ,
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:


Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not ....

If you mean horizontal, ideally yes, It looks better that way, generally.

Unless you are building an arch, or something artistic...

I've seen old garden/estate walls built parallel to ground level,
following at least about one in twenty slopes. In a hilly part of the
country this probably would not work.


thirty years ago we tried to condemn a wall that was up and down but we
couldn't find any regs or British standard or codes of practice to say
it wasn't OK so we left him to it and he roughcast it anyway...just
wondered what people thought ....


If someone built a house like that you might be able to condemn it on
some general rule like "looks likely to fall down", I would have
thought.


can't do that kind of thing "looks likely" doesn't stand up in court .....


What was the reason for trying to condemn it?

Steve Walker[_5_] March 11th 20 03:18 AM

brickwork
 
On 10/03/2020 09:45, charles wrote:
In article ,
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 10/03/2020 08:32, harry wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 08:29:21 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not ....

If visible, it looks **** if they aren't.
The wall does have to be vertical

but does it matter if the wall is to be harled ? ...


the English won't know that word'


We can make a good guess at it though - and Google confirms that it was
correct.

SteveW



Jim GM4DHJ ... March 11th 20 08:03 AM

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On 10/03/2020 21:32, wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 18:47:52 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 10/03/2020 11:35, Roger Hayter wrote:
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 10/03/2020 11:01, Roger Hayter wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 10/03/2020 09:44, charles wrote:
In article ,
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:


Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not ....

If you mean horizontal, ideally yes, It looks better that way, generally.

Unless you are building an arch, or something artistic...

I've seen old garden/estate walls built parallel to ground level,
following at least about one in twenty slopes. In a hilly part of the
country this probably would not work.


thirty years ago we tried to condemn a wall that was up and down but we
couldn't find any regs or British standard or codes of practice to say
it wasn't OK so we left him to it and he roughcast it anyway...just
wondered what people thought ....

If someone built a house like that you might be able to condemn it on
some general rule like "looks likely to fall down", I would have
thought.


can't do that kind of thing "looks likely" doesn't stand up in court .....


What was the reason for trying to condemn it?

we had never seen any thing but level coursed brickwork before .....

Jim GM4DHJ ... March 11th 20 08:34 AM

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On 11/03/2020 08:03, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 10/03/2020 21:32, wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 18:47:52 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ...Â* wrote:
On 10/03/2020 11:35, Roger Hayter wrote:
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 10/03/2020 11:01, Roger Hayter wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 10/03/2020 09:44, charles wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:


Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not ....

If you mean horizontal, ideally yes, It looks better that way,
generally.

Unless you are building an arch, or something artistic...

I've seen old garden/estate walls built parallel to ground level,
following at least about one in twenty slopes.Â*Â* In a hilly part
of the
country this probably would not work.


thirty years ago we tried to condemn a wall that was up and down
but we
couldn't find any regs or British standard or codes of practice to say
it wasn't OK so we left him to it and he roughcast it anyway...just
wondered what people thought ....

If someone built a house like that you might be able to condemn it on
some general rule like "looks likely to fall down", I would have
thought.


can't do that kind of thing "looks likely" doesn't stand up in court
.....


What was the reason for trying to condemn it?

we had never seen any thing but level coursed brickwork before .....

fear of the unknown ....

[email protected] March 11th 20 09:17 AM

brickwork
 
On Wednesday, 11 March 2020 08:34:33 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 11/03/2020 08:03, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 10/03/2020 21:32, tabbypurr wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 March 2020 18:47:52 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ...Â* wrote:
On 10/03/2020 11:35, Roger Hayter wrote:
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 10/03/2020 11:01, Roger Hayter wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 10/03/2020 09:44, charles wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

Do courses in a brick wall have to be level ? ...I think not .....

If you mean horizontal, ideally yes, It looks better that way,
generally.

Unless you are building an arch, or something artistic...

I've seen old garden/estate walls built parallel to ground level,
following at least about one in twenty slopes.Â*Â* In a hilly part
of the
country this probably would not work.


thirty years ago we tried to condemn a wall that was up and down
but we
couldn't find any regs or British standard or codes of practice to say
it wasn't OK so we left him to it and he roughcast it anyway...just
wondered what people thought ....

If someone built a house like that you might be able to condemn it on
some general rule like "looks likely to fall down", I would have
thought.


can't do that kind of thing "looks likely" doesn't stand up in court
.....

What was the reason for trying to condemn it?

we had never seen any thing but level coursed brickwork before .....

fear of the unknown ....


there's a fair bit of unlevel out there, (bungaroosh probably being the ultimate). I wasn't aware of arched brickwork being considered a problem. Generally I'm not aware of it being a risk unless the angles involved are not mild. But it's all water under the watery thing now.


NT


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